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William James College Interviews
GV016-16
Interviewer: Barbara Roos
Interviewee: Steven Laninga
Date: 1984
[Unknown]
People have their William James t-shirts.
[Laninga]
Is that right? You know, I never had a William James t-shirt.
[Unknown]
No?
[Laninga]
They don't make them in my size, so I never bought one. And it always bothered
me and I couldn't really be a part without a William James t-shirt. And then I
decided that was going to be my own little private experience: the William James
student without the badge. My own mark.
[Unknown]
Okay, let’s go from the top, your history, why you came to William James
College, kind of go over again what we just talked about.
[Laninga]
I started at William James in, I believe, the fall seventy-four, after two years of
Calvin College, here in Grand Rapids, and a year of stopping out and private
introspection. I bummed around a lot. The fall of seventy-four, I went back, intent
on studying photography at William James. And I was attracted to the rather
broad offerings of photographic training at the school, as it was clustered with the
other schools. And because of Willy Jay's lenient attitude towards students, I felt
that I could slip in and out of William James, and across to TJC, and over to the
regular school, to get all that I needed to study photography without having to
cope with the superstructure of a traditional liberal arts education undergraduate. So that was the reason I came out there, and my intention when I
arrived on campus. A couple of things happened when I got there. I met my
future wife about the first week and we really haven't been separate since. It's
been almost ten years now. That's very nice, and that's a little present from
William James to us, I think. I, also, after pursuing photographic chemistry, and
darkroom, and cinema, and a number of other photographic classes, began to
become aware of a greater, more profound aspect of the photographic image
making process. And that was what happens after pictures are viewed. What
goes on in the mind of the viewer? What goes on in the mind of the creator, and
how that is transmitted through this piece of material? So, I began to be
distracted by that whole topic area and ended up a good ways from where I
started when I wanted to be a photographer. And I became, instead, someone
who, mostly, thought, talked, and wrote about the process of communicating
through media. And my degree is still a media degree, a Bachelor of Science
�from William James. But a lot of my course work was really in the Social
Relations department at William James.
[Unknown]
Can you talk a little bit about the educational experience? What you did at
William James? How or what you perceived the college to be?
[Laninga]
Okay.
[Unknown]
[Inaudible] Something that it was?
[Laninga]
Well, I was a commuter student for the entire five years that I was at William
James. A part-time commuter student. I arrived on campus about five minutes
after I was supposed to have gotten there. And I would leave as soon as I had
done everything I came on campus to do, whether that was attend a class or
attend a class and go to the library for an hour, what have you. As a matter of
fact, I used the bus to get there, for a number of years. So, my experience of
William James is, perhaps, a little different than many William James alumnus in
that I was not really ever caught up in the community of William James. I had
almost a business relationship with the school. It was a transactional relationship.
Very, very clean in that respect. I would pay for the class, I would show up, I
would talk, I would think, I would write, we would interact, and I would leave. And
all the stuff that went on the Skylight Room, all the committees, and task forces,
and all the other stuff that I heard about and read about went right past me for a
very tumultuous and colorful five years. And I was almost as unrelated to it as the
people in Grand Rapids that only heard about it from associates. Still, in all my…
there are some things about William James that I think cannot be taken away in
that it was a school that was focused on the individual and permitted the
individual to find his or her education. That was what originally attracted me to
the school in the first place. And that part I really did take advantage of. I don't
think that the Skylight Room and all the goings on in there was necessarily what I
came to the school for the first place. I got what wanted out of school and the
school gave that to me and generous quantity. I pursued my own course, and I
came away fully satisfied with what I got. As I said, it was a transaction
relationship. And I came away a much better person for having been there.
[Unknown]
We talked a little bit about how the school dealt with failure. Can you say
something about that?
[Laninga]
William James had a pragmatic approach to education. And caught up in that is
an understanding that in order to achieve worthy goals, there are risks that must
be taken, and one of the clearest risks is the risk of failure. And failure was
always real at William James. It was something that everyone lived with, from the
lowliest new student, right on through the administrative offices. Everyone dealt
with failure on a daily basis around here because much was tried and only a
�portion of that was accomplished. And everyone understood the realities of
stalled projects and fizzled ideas. And I have since then come to understand that
one good idea is worth a hundred ones that seem to be good, and it's worth
weeding through a hundred possible ideas to come land on one good one. And
that means a lot of failure. That's ninety-nine failures. So, I probably… that's one
of the most valuable things I learned at William James. I'm not sure that that is so
readily accessible at other schools, where failure is completely different in its
meaning for undergraduates.
[Unknown]
Moving on to how do you think… what do you think William James was as an
experiment? Do you think it failed? Do you think, you know, we talked about not
being allowed to fail or something…?
[Laninga]
Let me say it again, William James, the experiment of William James College, did
not fail. I firmly believe that the experiment of William James College was not
permitted to succeed. The school is a part of the community around it, and it
serves the community, and the community is supposed to nourish and feed the
school. And the two of them grow together. That takes a long time, it takes
generations in most cases. This school was not permitted to grow for even a full
generation. There is no way of knowing what kind of contribution, ultimately, the
school could have made because it was not allowed time enough to bring its…
they're no longer students, they're almost children, to adulthood. It's alumni we're
not permitted to reach places visibility and influence in the community that are
typical of a situation where a school and a community have grown up together.
And that's really a tragic loss for this community, and obviously for the school,
and all of those of us who felt that it was an important place to keep around.
[Unknown]
In five years?
[Laninga]
I think that if the school had been permitted to live on for a few more years, four
or five years, that it would have to been impervious to any kind of administrative
reevaluation. It would not have been quite so easy to simply pull the plug on the
school that had fifteen years of roots in the community. I think by that time, there
would have been enough reason for the school to stay around, for it to stay on
and continue.
[Unknown]
What did survive the experiment?
[Laninga]
The people survived William James. And the people are scattered all over the
world, but there are a great many of us still in the West Michigan area. And the
school may be closed, and the books may all be scattered, and the files filed, but
what the school accomplished is still here, it's a living, it's breathing, and it's
making its presence felt every day, every year. And there's no telling what real
contribution was made, yet, because we're not finished yet.
�[Unknown]
Was there anything of the philosophy that survived? Do you think West Michigan
is now without a William James philosophy, entirely, because the school went
away?
[Laninga]
No, I think the philosophy preceded the school. I don't think that's something so
graded and timeless, and profound as that kind of… William James thought,
originally, is already eighty or ninety years old. And I don't think he was the first…
he may have been first to verbalize it, perhaps in English, but I don't think that the
philosophy is gone. I think it was here before the schools here, and maybe it will
return in another form for future. I'd like to think so. I know I would support any
effort along those lines because I still think it's the most humane way to educate
people.
[Unknown]
Excellent. Okay. This is Barbara's question: what is the essence of William
James?
[Laninga]
Define essence.
[Unknown]
That's just what she told me to ask you, so I have no idea.
[Laninga]
No more help than that. What is… what was the essence of William James?
[Unknown]
What do you feel was the essence?
[Laninga]
Well, I don't want to talk about failure again, but I think that the essence of what
we knew as William James was an agency. It was an agency available for those
who pursued, frankly, whatever they wish to pursue. I saw a number of students
out there pursuing something other than education. The school was big enough
to accommodate them. It was free enough to accommodate them and was
flexible enough to accommodate them. There were… part of the essential quality
of the freedom of that type of curriculum is that you must allow people to… how
can I say this is less than a blunt form? You must allow people to not do anything
at all. You must allow people to not contribute, to not participate. They've had
twenty years of a more structured regimen and built up all kinds of blocks and
obstacles to a direct link to the education process. And it takes time for people to
break down all those old barriers and realize and understand that nothing stands
between them and what it is they want to be and what they want to achieve but
themselves. So, all of these self-defeating habits, regimens, have to be cleared
away. And no one can do that for you. No one can come in and reorient you, you
have to do that for yourself. It worked for a great many of us. It didn't work for all
of us. And probably the essence of William James was willingness to allow
people to go their own way, whether that meant going out the door or not. A lot of
people drifted in and out of the school, and that's not wrong. That's exactly what
�the school was for.
[Unknown]
Great, beautiful. Alright one [inaudible] the tape. How was the William James
Association formed?
[Laninga]
William James Association was formed in the wake for William James and out of
the grief and the bitterness of the moment. A feeling a need to respond to this
administrative cruelty was expressed. And the only thing that not the only thing
but the thing that probably is most typical of that particular group of people, our
age group, our mentality, our culture, is collective action. We almost knee jerk
react to any kind of challenge in a collective manner. So, the Association was
originally formed as some notion of an influence group for the preservation of
some aspects of William James. And I think as that it's probably failed. But like I
said before, failure's a reality for our community. And something bigger than that,
I think, was realized by many people. That we’re all alive and well. We got
together, we saw each other, and felt of each other. We were fine. The school
was dead, we were fine and we knew that things are going to be okay.
[Unknown]
Crazy. Anything else you want to wrap up with?
[Laninga]
No, I think you've pretty well gotten it all on there.
[Unknown]
Alright. Thank you, Steve.
[Laninga]
You're welcome.
[Unknown]
It's going to be good.
[Laninga]
When do I see it?
[Unknown]
Well, I think there is going to be a…
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Videotaped interviews of William James College faculty, students and administrators by Barbara Roos. William James College opened in 1971 as the third baccalaureate degree granting college for Grand Valley. It was originally designed to be an interdisciplinary, non-departmentalized college consisting of concentration programs, rather than majors. Curriculum was organized around three concentrations that were meant to be interdisciplinary career preparation offerings: Social Relations, Administration and Information Management, and Environmental Studies. The college was discontinued in 1983 during a reorganization of Grand Valley.
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Interview with Steven Laninga by Barbara Roos, documenting the history of Grand Valley State's William James College. William James College was the third baccalaureate degree granting college for Grand Valley. It was originally designed to be an interdisciplinary, non-departmentalized college consisting of concentration programs, rather than majors. The college opened in 1971 and was discontinued in 1983 during a reorganization of Grand Valley State. Steven Laninga was a student of William James College and a member of the class of 1979 at Grand Valley. In this interview, Steven discusses the personal journey that led him to William James College in the fall of 1974, studying photography and incorporating Social Relations coursework, and how the William James Association formed in the wake of the college closing. This interview is part 1 of 1 for Steven Laninga.
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Lansing Pow Wow flyer, Lansing MI, June 21-22, 1986, collected by Edward Gillis included as part of his Native American publication collection.
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LANSING POW WOW
JUNE 20, 21, 1987
Sleepy Hollow State Park
DANCE CONTEST
Dance registration closes
at 1:30 p.m. Sat. June 20, 1987
no exceptions! No Alternate Dance Site
GRAND ENTRY
TRADERS FEE
SATURDAY 2 p.m. and 7 p.m.
20.00 a day 35.00 for weekend
(primative camp site
no electricity)
INDIAN TRADERS ONLY!!!
Sunday
2 p.m.
PARTICIPANT MEAL
ADMISSION
SATURDAY June 20, 1987
$2.00 per Adult (12 and over)
$1.00 per Child and Senior Citizen
$2.00 per car State Park entry fee
at 5:00 p.m.
INFORMATION
LINDA VANLAKE
(517) 487-5409
SPONSORS
LANSING INDIAN CENTER
LANSING INDIAN EDUCATION . PROGRAM
ARTS COUNCIL CENTER OF LANSING, INC.
MICHIGAN COUNCIL FOR THE ARTS
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Lansing Pow Wow, June 1987
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Lansing Pow Wow flyer, Lansing MI, June 20-21, 1987, collected by Edward Gillis included as part of his Native American publication collection.
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Lansing Indian Center
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Michigan
Michigan -- Grand Rapids
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LANSING POW WOW
JUNE 18, 19, 1988
, Sleepy Hollow State Park
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DANCE CONTEST
Dance registration closes
at 1:30 p,m, Sat. June 18,1988
No Excegtions! No Alternate
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ADMISSION
2.00 per Adult (12 and over)
1.00 per Child and Senior Citizen
2.00 per Car State Park entry fee
GRAND ENTRY
Saturday 2 p,m, and 7 p,m.
Sunday 2 p,m,
TRADERS FEE
25.00 a day 40.00 for weekend
(primitive camp site NO electricity)
INDIAN TRADERS ONLY!!!
PARTICIPANT MEAL
Saturday June 18, 1988
at 5:00 p,m.
INFORMATION
Linda Van Lake
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(517) 487-5409
SPONSORS
LANSING INDIAN CENTER
LANSING INDIAN EDUCATION PROGRAM
LANSING, MICHIGAN
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Lansing Pow Wow, June 1988
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1988-06
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Lansing Pow Wow flyer, Lansing MI, June 18-19, 1988, collected by Edward Gillis included as part of his Native American publication collection.
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Lansing Indian Center
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Indians of North America -- Michigan -- Periodicals
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Michigan
Michigan -- Grand Rapids
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WALK IN UNITY
for
Michigan's most VULNERABLE
and
'RALLY
at the State Capitol
FEBRUARY 15, 1991
To show concern over budget cuts and their
effect on the Indian people, and to show support
for all of Michigan's vulnerable citizens.
Cuts proposed would:
1. Lower ADC and SSI subsistence.
2. Reduce Medical Services to the poor.
3. Lay-off of State Employees will seriously hamper the
States ability to serve Michigan's citizens.
4. Lay-off Indian people in State positions that advocate for
Indian communities which effectively cuts out Indian Programs.
5. Severely curt~il or eliminate GA Program.
6. Reduce services for Senior Citizens.
7. Reduce services for Children.
8. Numerous other areas would be cut or eliminated.
Support Alternative Plans
Indian people are asked to gather at the Lansing Indian Center,
814 W. Saginaw, Lansing. Traditional dress is encouraged.
Prayer will be offered at noon and walk to the Capitol will begin
immediately thereafter.
Other community organizations and individuals are being invited to
join us at the Capitol at 1 :00 p.m.
Any questions call 517-487-5409.
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Walk In Unity Rally, February 1991
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1991-02
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Walk In Unity Rally, Lansing MI, February 15, 1991, collected by Edward Gillis included as part of his Native American publication collection.
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Lansing Indian Center
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Indians of North America -- Michigan -- Periodicals
Indians of North America
Michigan
Michigan -- Grand Rapids
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LANSING POW WOW
90
19
LANSING NORTH AMERICAN INDIAN CENTER
814 West Saginaw Street
Lansing, Michigan 48915
(517)
487-5409
�P R O G R A M
SATURDAY
2:p.m.
GRAND ENTRY
2:15 - 5:15 p.m.
Afternoon Dance
&
Children's Dance Contest
7:00 p.m.
GRAND ENTRY
7:15 - 10:00p.m.
Evening
Dance
&
Children's Dance Contest
SUNDAY
12:00 p.m.
Children's Tug-a-War Contest
2:15 - 5:00 p.m.
Afternoon Dance &
Adult Dance Contest
* Spectators are more than welcome to join in on Inter-Tribal dances.
POW WOW COMMITTEE
V.I.P.
EMCEE:
Tic ~ush
CHAIRPERSON:
Rosie DeLand
ARENA DIRECTOR:
Bill Wheatley
COORDINATOR:
Linda VanLake
HEAD DANCERS:
Shannon Martin
TRADER REGISTRATION:Elizabeth Kimewon
Fred Raphael
DANCE REGISTRATION: Adrienne Ailing
HOST DRUM:
ALL NATIONS
Kathy Genereaux
VETERAN DANCER:
Frank Bush
FOOD:
Linda Gould
HEAD JUDGES:
Dave Shananaquet
GIVEAWAY:
Rosie DeLand
ADMISSIONS:
Ken DeLand
ON GROUNDS ACCOUNTANT: Hank Rowland
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�The Pow-Wow
Also known as a dance or a doings. The Pow-Wow has a very
historic value to the American
Indians. These dances and gatherings have gone on for hundreds of years. Historically
in the Michigan area these
gatherings were in the spring
and summer. At this time the
trading took place and the
people had a chance to get together and see their family
and friends whom they had not
seen all winter. Today the
people still gather and hold
these dances. They have a
chance to meet old friends and
to make new ones. They also
use this time to help educate
Non-Indians to the Indian way
of life.
GRAND ENTRY
First event of a Pow-Wow dance is to create a
circle, loosely on the outer perimeter of the
dance area, representing a sacred circle.
Participants signal Grandfather and our ancestors
to witness this physical testimony of belief
in and continuation of the old ways.
Because so much attention both spiritual and
physical, is focused on this event the people
in front do, indeed, have a great place of honor
and responsibility.
FLAG SONG
Flag song The flag song to the Indian people
is the same as the National Anthem to non-Indians.
All people will be asked to remove their hats
for all veterans who have served their people.
HEAD DANCERS
Head dancers help set the tone of a Pow-Wow.
They
lead the dancers and are honored by the ancestors
we honor.
Respect is given head dancers because
they are in the forefront, living examples of
these ways given to us.
�HOST DRUM
It is said the drum is the heartbeat of our people.
So too the host drum is the heartbeat of a Pow-Wow.
Being host drum requires more than good voices and
strong beats. Cultural sensitivity is required to
sing appropriate songs and to combine the humor and
dignity of a happening like a Pow-Wow.
Head Veteran -Frank Bush
U.S. Marine Corps
Wounded WW II
The head veteran leads the
Grand Entry with the flag and
represents all of the Indian
people who gave their lives for
our country. He also designates other flag bearers and
officiates feather-pickups.
The head veteran is one of the
most important dancers of the
Lansing Pow-Wow.
�Traditional Men Dancers
Traditional men dancers come
first in the Grand March because they do indeed come
first.
They are the head
men, the chiefs, the clan
leaders, the veterans, the
healers, and the elders. The
higest honors go to them because the fate of the people
rests on their shoulders.
Traditional Women Dancers
Great dignity and pride belong
to traditional women dancers.
Raising children to be able to
fulfill their roles in adult
life is for these shapers of
people.
Crazy Horse once said
"When the women are gone the
people will be dead". When
you view the spirit of the
traditional women you will
know.
�Men Fancy Dancers
"A modern dance with its roots
in the old grass dance".
This is just a modern expression
of Indian people combining the
colorful outfits and fast pace
of today with the great traditions of yesterday.
Women Shawl Dancers
Exuberant expressions
of life is what fancy
and shawl dancers are.
Bright feathers, sparkling beadwork, and expert control of intricate movement. All
this combined with personal aura to make these
dancers unique in style.
�MICHIGAN INDIAN EMPLOYMENT &
TRAINING SERVICES, INC.
Admlnletratlve Office
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REGION I
REGION VI
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906-932-4579
315 Clay St., Suite 202
Muskegon, MI 49440
616-722-7769
REGION II
REGION VII
325 E. Lake Street
Petoskey, MI 49770
616-347-9330
300 S. Washington Ave., Suite 405
Lansing, MI 48933
517-482-3338
REGION IV
REGION VIII
2274 Enterprise Dr., Suite 10
Mt. Pleasant, MI 48858
517-772-4435
124 Pearl St., Suite 306
Ypsilanti, MI 48197
313-482-0150
REGION V
REGION IX
711 N. Saginaw St.
Flint, MI 48503
313-235-7029
1651 W. Centre St.
Portage, MI 49002
616-323-0234
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combine a variety of interest-€arning accounts to meet our low
minimum balance requirement. You will receive a checking
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statement listing all your accounts, and more. For details, phone
1-800-CALL-MNB.
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�UAW
Local652
Gary Watson ........... President
Charlie Hoesl . Fin. Sec.-Treasurer
Ralph Shepard . . . Vice President
Ron E. Smith . . . . . Recording Sec.
Serving Our Membership
Over 40 Years
426 Clare Street, Lansing
372-7581
I. B. E. W.
LOCAL
N 0.
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5205 S. PENNSYLVANIA AVE.
LANSING, MI 48911
PHONE: 393-5530
BEST WISHES LANSING INDIAN CENTER POW WOW
FROM
INTERNATIONAL BROTHERHOOD OF ELECTRICAL WORKERS
SERVING ALL, OR PARTS OF, THE FOLLOWING COUNTIES SINCE 1926:
Ingham, Eaton, Clinton, Livingston, Ionia, Shiawassee and Gratiot
�SHOWCASE OF FINE AMERICAN CRAFTS
CONTEMPORARY DESIGN FOR BEAUTY AND FUNCTION
IN THE OBJECTS WE USE EVERY DAY
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205 M.A.C. AVENUE
.
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(517) 351-0825
THE
MICHIGAN
INDIAN
CHILD
WELFARE
AGENCY
JR'S PLACE
NEEDS FOSTER PARENTS!!
R & G INDIAN JEWELRY
Foster parents provide their home and
themselves for the care of an Indian
child or children.
"Let us put our minds together
and see vhat kind of life
ve can make for our children."
Sittina Bull
Turquoise, Silver
101-1 /2 W . LAWRENCE AVE.
OR
207 PETERS COURT
CHARLOTTE, Ml 48813
Goldie & Roy Cole
(517) 543.3744
The Michigan Indian Child Weliare Agency (~ITCWA) is a
tribally controlled child placing agency committed to
maintaining Indian culture through providing child
veliare services through Indian people, organizations
and services.
For further information call:
.,ma
(517)393-3256 - Lansin
Ceut/ult ~cm £llltWelt
• . WE'RE #1 AND BUILDING FOR YOU!
TOM BURNS
ASSISTANT MANAGER
407 N. CLINTON AVE.
ST. JOHNS, Ml 48879
(517) 224-2358
FAX (517) 224-1126
For a fast answer on your
loan request, call
Loan By Phone
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Groceries
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Daily Lottery
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Wines
&
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Call
482-2981 for Lotto numbers
CAPITAL GAME SUPPLY COMPANY
Ph.(517) 589-9350
Leslie) MI. 49251
3609 Hul 1 Rd.
Suppliers of:
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CHARITY GAME TICKETS
CASINO SUPPLIES and EQUIPMENT
Manufacturers of:
CASINO EQUIPMENT
Attention: Tony D.-tore
LANSING NORTH AMERICAN INDIAN CENTER
The Michigan Indian Benefit Association is a nonprofit, 501 (C) 3,
tax exempt community based organization,
1968,
The MIBA was founded in
The goals of the MIBA are:
1,
To promote and enhance economic, social and personal
opportunities for members of the Lansing Indian community.
2.
To foster and promote an appreciation and understanding of
Native American culture to urban Indians and non-Indians in
the greater Lansing area.
The MIBA administers the Lansing North American Indian Center,
which
sponsors numerous programs and activities. They include: congregate
dining for Native American Elderly; transportation services;
community health program; information and referral; and client
advocacy.
Social and cultural activities include: community feasts;
childrens' Christmas party; bowling tournaments; Annual Pow Wow; and
craft classes.
�· AGRICULTURAL IMPLEMENT WORIERS
of AMERICA
(UAW)
LOCAL 602
2510 W. MICHIGAN AVENUE / LANSING, MICHIGAN 48917 / (517) 372-4626
PRESIDENT
ALVIN J . PRESSLEY
VICE-PRESIDENT
TED R. HARTMAN
FINANCIAL SECRETARY-TREASURER
RONALD A. DAVIS
RECORDING SECRETARY
BRENDA WIBERT
CHAIRMAN, BARGAINING COMMITTEE
LEWIS W. SCHULTZ
BEST WISHES FOR YOUR ANNUAL POW WOW FROM THE MEMBERS OF UAW LOCAL 602.
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The Lansing Pow Wow Committee would like to thank the entire
community for all their help in preparing for and working at
our 1990 Lansing Pow Wow.
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SPONSORS
LANSING NORTH AMERICAN INDIAN CENTER
LANSING SCHOOL DISTRICT-TITLE IV INDIAN ED. PROGRAM
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FRIENDS OF THE POW WOW
Fred
&
Ginger Sharp
Lonnie Ailing
Delores Doxtator
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Congratulates
the Lansing Indian Center
on its 13th Annual Pow Wow
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�LANSING NORTH AMERICAN INDIAN CENTER
The Michigan Indian Benefit Association is a nonprofit, 501 (C) 3,
tax exempt community based organization.
1968.
The MIBA was founded in
The goals of the MIBA are:
1.
To promote and enhance economic, social and personal
opportunities for members of the Lansing Indian community.
2.
To foster and promote an appreciation and understanding of
Native American culture to urban Indians and non-Indians in
the greater Lansing area.
The MIBA administers the Lansing North American Indian Center,
which
sponsors numerous programs and activities. They include: congregate
dining for Native American Elderly; transportation services;
community health program; information and referral; and client
advocacy.
Social and cultural activities include: community feasts;
childrens' Christmas party; bowling tournaments; Annual Pow Wow; and
craft classes.
LANSING INDIAN EDUCATION PROGRAM
The Lansing School District has requested three year funding from the
u. s.
Department of Education to operate a program of tutorial
services for Native American students in grades K-12.
This program
has been designed in coordination with parents of Indian children
attending Lansing Public Schools.
Activities with Indian students are conducted by four staff people
who work with the children in their regular schools.
Additional
activities are provided that enrich childrens cultural pride and
awareness of other Indian students in our community.
The program is coordinated through the Office of State and Federal
Programs of the Lansing School District.
374-4118.
For more information call
�In Memory of
ELMER SEBASTIAN
May 18, 1912 - December 3, 1987
"1985 Indian of the Year"
V.I.P.
EMCEE:
POW WOW COMMITTEE
Tic Bush
ARENA DIRECTOR: Bill Wheatley
HEAD DANCERS:
George Martin
&
Sid Martin
CHAIRPERSON:
Adrienne A..:.lir.g
COORDINATOR:
Linda Van Lake
TRADER REGISTRATION: Elizabeth Kimewon
DANCE REGISTRATION:
HOST DRUM:
All Nations Singers
HEAD SINGER:
Ben Bearskin Jr.
Kathy Genereaux
Debbie Renzi
FOOD:
Linda Gould
VETERAN DANCER: Frank Bush
GIVEAWAY:
Rosie De Land
INVOCATION:
Betty Pamp
ADMISSIONS:
Ken De Land
HEAD JUDGES:
Paul Johnson
Judith Pamp
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�P R O G R AM
SATURDAY
2:00 p,m.
Grand Entry
2:15 - 5:15 p,m.
Afternoon Dance & Children's Dance Contest
7:00 p,m,
Grand Entry
7:15 - 10:00 p,m.
Evening Dance & Children's Dance Contest
**PLEASE NO PICTURE TAKING DURING GRAND ENTRY AND HONOR SONGS
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SUNDAY
12:00 p,m.
Children's Tug-a-War Contest
2:15 - 5:00 p,m.
Afternoon Dance &
Adult Dance Contest
**Spectators are more than welcome to join in on Inter-Tribal dances.
�Head Dancers - George and Sid Martin
Head dancers help set the tone of a PowWow. They lead the dancers and are
honored by the ancestors we honor.
Respect is given head dancers because
they are in the forefront, living examples of these ways given to us.
Host Drum - All Nations Singers
Head Singer - Ben Bearskin Jr.
It is said the drum is the heartbeat of our people.
So too the host drum
is the heartbeat of a Pow-wow.
Being host drum requires more than good
voices and strong beats.
Cultural sensitivity is required to sing appropriate songs and to combine the humor and dignity of a happening like a
Pow-wow.
�GRAND ENTRY
First event of a Pow-Wow dance
is to create a circle, loosely
on the outer perimeter of the
dance area, representing a sacred circle.
Participants signal
Grandfather and our ancestors to
witness this physical testimony
of belief in and continuation of
the old ways.
Because so much attention both
spiritual and physical, is focused on this event the people
in front do, indeed, have a great
place of honor and responsibility.
FLAG SONG
Flag song - The Flag song to the
Indian people is the same as the
National Anthem to non-Indians.
All people will be asked to remove
their hats for all veterans who
have served their people.
�Head Veteran -Frank Bush
U.S. Marine Corps
Wounded WW II
The head veteran leads the
Grand Entry with the flag and
represents all of the Indian
people who gave their lives for
our country. He also designates other flag bearers and
officiates feather-pickups.
The head veteran is one of the
most important dancers of the
Lansing Pow-Wow.
The Pow-Wow
Also known as a dance or a doings.
The Pow-Wow has a very
historic value to the American
Indians. These dances and gatherings have gone on for hundreds of years. Historically
in the Michigan area these
gatherings were in the spring
and summer. At this time the
trading took place and the
people had a chance to get together and see their family
and friends whom they had not
seen all winter. Today the
people still gather and hold
these dances.
They have a
chance to meet old friends and
to make new ones. They also
use this time to help educate
Non-Indians to the Indian way
of life.
�Traditional Men Dancers
Traditional men dancers come
first in the Grand March because they do indeed come
first.
They are the head
men, the chiefs, the clan
leaders, the veterans, the
healers, and the elders.
The
higest honors go to them because the fate of the people
rests on their shoulders.
Traditional Women Dancers
Great dignity and pride belong
to traditional women dancers.
Raising children to be able to
fulfill their roles in adult
life is for these shapers of
people.
Crazy Horse once said
"When the women are gone the
people will be dead". When
you view the spirit of the
traditional women you will
know.
�MEN FANCY DANCERS
"A MODERN DANCE WITH ITS ROOTS
IN THE OLD GRASS DANCE",
THIS IS JUST A MODERN EXPRESSION
OF INDIAN PEOPLE COMBINING THE
COLORFUL OUTFITS AND FAST PACE
OF TODAY WITH THE GREAT TRADITIONS OF YESTERDAY,
WOMEN SHAWL DANCERS
EXUBERANT EXPRESSIONS
OF LIFE IS WHAT FANCY
AND SHAWL DANCERS ARE,
BRIGHT FEATHERSJ SPARKLING BEADWORKJ AND EXPERT CONTROL OF INTRICATE MOVEMENT, ALL
THIS COMBINED WITH PERSONAL AURA TO MAKE THESE
DANCERS UNIQUE IN STYLE,
�TRADERS
BEFORE THE INTRODUCTION OF BEADS AND SILVERJ
OUR PEOPLE MADE ARM BANDS OUT OF COPPER AND
EMBROIDERED THEIR CLOTHING WITH DYED MOOSE
HAIR, WHEN GLASS BEADSJ NEEDLESJ AND HATS
WERE INTRODUCED THE INDIAN TRADER BECAME AN
INTEGERAL PART OF EVERY Pow-wow. TRADERS
SUPPLY THE MATERIALS NEEDED FOR ARTS AND
CRAFTS AS WELL AS BEADWORKJ MOCASSINS AND
BASKETRY,
SPECIAL FOODS HAVE ALSO BECOME AVAILABLE
AT Pow-wows AND NO Pow-wow IS COMPLETE WITHOUT A BOWL OF CORN SOUP AND A PIECE OF FRYBREAD,
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FINANCIAL SECRETARY-TREASURER
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American Indian
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Grand Valley State University
Veterans History Project
Gordon Lantz
(35:30)
Back ground Information (00:26)
He was born in Leslie, Michigan, on April 7th 1930. (00:30)
He had 6 siblings. He was the 4th child born in the family. (00:54)
His father was a farmer when Gordon was young, however after World War II he got a job in a
factory. (1:10)
When he was age 3-7 he worked on the farm picking up corn cobs. From 1933-1937. (1:40)
His hands were wounded as result of his military service. (2:12)
At age 10 he joined the boy scouts in 1940. He ended up being a Scout Master. (2:19)
When he was 14 a military recruiter cam to see his Boy Scout troop march in 1944. (3:19)
Military experience was easy to adjust to because of what he learned in the Boy Scouts. (3:55)
There were about 14 boys in the troop who could march. They would often march in parades.
(4:27)
He attended school through 8th grade (approx 1944) then he started work. (5:00)
He ended up working on farms. He enjoyed this work. (5:20)
He enlisted in the National Guard. He had a lot of pride in this and he kept his uniform very
proper. (5:56)
The National Guard was located in Jackson, Michigan. Because it was only 16 miles away he
used his money to buy a car so he could drive to the meeting. (6:21)
In addition to marching, he also learned how to handle weapons. (7:10)
He was then drafted, and he was sent to Alabama for basic training. (8:00)
Basic training (8:00)
They were very impressed with his skill when he went into the military. He was in good shape
and he did not think that basic training was very difficult. (8:20)
He did not receive and special training aside from leadership. (9:08)
He was paid based on rank. He wanted to advance in rank because if he didn’t he wouldn’t make
the money he believed he deserved. (9:20)
After completing his Basic training he was sent to Korea. (9:50)
Service in the Korean Conflict (approx. 1950-1953) (10:00)
He was sent into Korea with his outfit as reinforcements. (10:15)
He arrived in Korea and was placed behind the front line. Here he and other new men to arrive
in country were then put through some more training in order to prepare them for the
environment. (10:33)
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He had 3 stripes when he arrived in Korea and he had 4 after finishing his first year there.
(10:48)
This advance in rank was seen to be very quick. (11:04)
While in Korea, the men lived in tents. Leaders had nicer tents. However, the common soldier
had a worn tent that often needed to be sewed and was difficult to set up. (11:20)
He thought the weather in Korea was similar to Michigan’s climate. (11:50)
He did not write very many letters home. Every month he would write 1 letter home to his
mother. (12:05)
He never drank. (12:28)
He was raised with heavy influence in the Bible. (12:44)
While in Korea his job was to prepare men for a procedure called “Seek and Search.” This is
when several men were sent out to see if they could locate the enemy and deliver the
information back to officers. (13:24)
He had this job for about 1.5 years. (14:22)
Because he was young, often times he did not receive the respect he deserved by other high
ranking men. (14:50)
When he received money he spent it on keeping is uniform clean or sent it home to his mother.
When it got there she put it in a drawer. (15:30)
Home life after Korean conflict (16:00)
When he got out of Korea he met his wife Barbara at a basketball game. (16:50)
He attended college and graduated in less than a year from U.C.L.A. (17:50)
After he graduated in his first year, his second year he taught. (18:04)
Because Gordon had a car, Barbra asked if he could driver her home, and that’s how they met.
(19:18)
He and his wife had 2 sons, Mike and Mark. (19:29)
His son Mike is a preacher and a contractor in Oklahoma. (19:37)
When his son preached about his father saying his faith was never broken. (20:29)
Time in POW camp (20:40)
While in Korea he was captured and was kept in a POW camp. (20:53)
He accredits himself, not prayer, to getting him through the experience. (21:05)
He knew what he had to do to get out was behave. He also mingled with the guards who could
speak English. (21:12)
The guards would beat prisoners and would often torture men to interrogate them. (21:51)
When captured it was necessary to remove one’s rank. The guards however knew he was of
high rank and because of this he was often beaten. (22:15)
He and some other soldiers he was with in the camp were there for 18 days. After that they
were turned loose. (23:10)
After this experience he was sent back to his unit. He wasn’t discharged after being in the POW
camp. (23:30)
The men were told during training to act dumb if they were captured. (24:40)
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While leaving the camp he realized that something, maybe his hip, was broken while he was in
the camp. He still has some trouble walking on it. (25:16)
On his right hand he is missing one of his fingers. The skin on his right hand was cut off and all
the fingers on his right hand are now unable to move. (26:16)
Thoughts on service (28:15)
Over all he believes that his military experience was a positive force in his life. (28:28)
He believed that his military experience helped him learn a lot, including the importance of
things such as the first aid he learned in the Boy Scouts. (28:36)
Over all he was proud to have served his country. (29:00)
After he was discharged (approx 1953) he tried to join veterans groups however they wouldn’t
take him due to the condition of his hands. (29:10)
He has resided in the Grand Rapids Home for Veterans since January of 2011. (29:30)
While there he was interviewed for 2 books. (30:00)
He doesn’t like living there but he thinks it’s the best place he’s ever been. (30:28)
In December of 2010 his mental conditions led others to encourage Gordon to move into a
home. (30:54)
He plans on bringing his cars up to the home. (31:22)
When he was 20, Mark, Gordon’s son, was killed. (33:16)
He was assaulted by 2 men over and argument. (33:48)
His son Mike stayed with him for 8 months before he was moved into a home. (34:28)
He believed that his military experience was the best things that have happened to him. (35:00)
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Grand Valley State University
Veterans' History Project
Raymond Lantz
World War II
1 hour 15 minutes 38 seconds
(00:00:08) Early Life
-Born on September 26, 1922 in Washington, Illinois
-Father managed a farm there
-Didn't live there very long
-Lived in Constantine, Michigan and Elkhart, Indiana growing up
-Went to high school in Three Rivers, Michigan
-Did not complete high school
-Dropped out in junior year
-Father worked as a barber during the Great Depression
-Father worked on commission
-Charged 25¢/haircut and got 15¢ from that
-Had to support five children with that money
-Left high school when he was sixteen, or seventeen
-Went to work
-Worked on farms and then at a door manufacturer
-Paid $30 a month at the farms, but also got three meals a day and a bed
(00:03:48) Start of the War & Getting Drafted
-Working in Grand Rapids, Michigan and was on his way home to Constantine, Michigan
-Driving in the car and heard the report on Pearl Harbor on the radio
-Knew about the fighting in Europe and Asia and that Hitler was basically conquering
Europe
-Working for a sheet metal company when he received his draft notice in November 1942
-Reported for his physical exam, and after getting accepted was given 14 days of leave
(00:06:20) Basic Training & Cook School
-First stop was Camp Grant, Illinois for processing
-Sent there by train
-Sent to Camp Beale, California for basic training
-Took a week to get there by train
-During the war they sold tickets, but it didn't mean you would have a seat
-Had to stop and let other trains go by that were carrying raw materials
-Camp Beale was thirty miles north of Sacramento
-First part of basic training consisted of exercises, marches, and getting fit
-Did a 32 mile march in eight hours carrying a 46 pound pack
-He was part of B Company, 83rd Medical Battalion, 13th Armored Division
-His duty in that unit was as a cook
-Had volunteered for KP (Kitchen Patrol) duty to keep from marching
-Sent to Cook School
-Trained for 16 hours a day
-Eight hours of classroom work, and eight hours of kitchen work
�-Had to learn how to cook, about nutrition, and how much food to prepare
-Had to work around boundaries set by rationing
-Government put together a 30 day menu
-Food supplies largely depended on their location
-Remembers cooking a lot of sheep once
-The rations they got were nutritious, if anything
-Had a good variety of vitamins and minerals
(00:14:12) Stationed at Camp Beale, California
-Stationed at Camp Beale for one year
-Could get passes to go off the base
-He visited St. Mary's, California
-Small town near the base
-He was married at the time
-Wife wrote him every day and he wrote back when he could
-Wife stayed with his parents and her parents
-Wife helped the war effort by working on a farm
-After basic training he received 14 days of leave to go home
-Seven days of visiting and seven days of travel
-Remembers one cook being 42 years old, but the majority of the men were young
draftees
-Went on maneuvres with the unit
-Their job was to cook on a mess truck
-Had gasoline stoves
-Had to get up an hour early to pump air into the stoves
-Stayed over night in pup tents
-Also had to dig foxholes
-Cooks received rifle training just like infantrymen
-Trained with the M1 Garand and later received the M1 Carbine
-Oldest daughter was born while he was at Camp Beale
-Got to see her when she was only three weeks old
-Wife and daughter came out to visit him
-They lived off base for a few weeks then returned to Michigan
-Had a Class A pass
-Meant he could leave whenever he wasn't on duty
-Worked from 3AM - 10PM
(00:22:11) Stationed at Camp Bowie, Texas
-Sent to Camp Bowie, Texas after one year at Camp Beale
-Reassigned to the 54th Evacuation Hospital
-Working as a cook for that unit
-Did not go to Camp Bowie alone
-All of the cooks got the flu when they went to Camp Bowie
-He and the mess sergeant were the only healthy ones
-Mess sergeant burned himself trying to light a stove
-Raymond managed to prepare, cook, and serve breakfast on his own
-Then he came down with the flu and had to report to the sick bay
-Camp Bowie was close to Fort Worth, Texas
�-Only about 50 or 60 miles away from Fort Worth
-Able to visit Fort Worth
-Stayed at Camp Bowie until they went overseas
-Stayed there for nearly one year
-Lived off the base in Texas
-Had the rank of Technician 4th Grade (T4)
(00:28:54) Following News of the War & Contact with Family
-Main source of news was the Stars & Stripes
-Didn't have good radio reception
-All of his brothers were in the service along with one brother-in-law
-A sister-in-law was in the Women's Army Corps (WACs)
-Kept in touch with each other while in the service
-Father wrote him a postcard every day
-Father wrote each of his sons a postcard every day
(00:31:44) Deployment to Hawaii
-Knew that eventually he would get deployed
-Left Camp Bowie in late 1944
-Went to Seattle, Washington to ship out
-Deployed with the 54th Evacuation Hospital
-Destination was Hawaii
-Got there by ship
-As a cook, he had to work on the ship
-Did the best that he could with what he had available
-Tried to give the soldiers what they wanted
-A lot of men got seasick on the trip to Hawaii
-Combination of bad weather and men not having sea-faring experience
-Took a couple weeks to reach Hawaii
-Sailed with three other ships
-Zig-zagged to avoid getting torpedoed
(00:35:44) Stationed in Schofield Barracks, Hawaii
-Stationed in Schofield Barracks in Oahu, Hawaii
-A more permanent base than Camp Bowie, or Camp Beale
-Had an actual kitchen to work in
-Met up with his brother in Honolulu
-Had a pass for four, or five, days
-If you could see your relatives you were given extra leave time
-Had figured out that his brother was coming to Hawaii
-Did this by piecing together information from censored mail
-Went to Pearl Harbor almost every day for a month waiting for his
brother's ship
-Soldiers' wives would come to the mess hall to eat sometimes
-Had one tablecloth specifically saved for the wives' table
-He didn't provide food for the entire 54th Evacuation Hospital
-Provided food for his own company, not feeding the doctors
-Cooked for officers on a rotating schedule
(00:42:56) End of the War & Deployment to Japan
�-Left Schofield Barracks in 1945
-Stayed in Hawaii during the invasion of Iwo Jima and Okinawa
-Read about the invasions in the Stars & Stripes
-Crossing the Pacific Ocean when the atomic bombs were dropped
-Sailing toward the staging area for the invasion of Japan
-Sailing on board a Landing Ship, Tank (LST)
-Cooked while on the LST
-Ran into a bad storm en route to Japan
-The swells were so high that they blocked out the ship behind them
-One man was so sick that he couldn't move and just laid in a pool of
vomit
-Raymond tried to help by giving the man soda crackers and water
-Man had to be dropped off en route otherwise he would have died
-Raymond didn't get seasick
-Got close to being seasick, but didn't throw up
-After Japan surrendered they sailed up to Japan on September 4, 1945
-Only two days after September 2, 1945, the date of the formal surrender of Japan
(00:50:13) Occupation Duty in Japan Pt. 1
-Disembarked in Tokyo Bay
-Took over a barn and turned it into a kitchen
-Used lye water to clean the building
-Set up stoves
-Lived on K Rations for a couple days while the stove got set up
-Used gasoline for the stoves
-There wasn't much left in Japan
-Remembers Japan had been flattened by bombing
-Every major road intersection was bombed out
-Entire country was in bad shape
-Saw Japanese civilians
-Felt sorry for them
-Understood that the people couldn't be blamed for the attack on Pearl
Harbor
-Had Japanese civilians working in his kitchen
-One Japanese boy named Jimmy served as his interpretor
-Had lived in San Francisco before the U.S. entered the war
-Jimmy's family returned to Japan in 1941 shortly after Pearl Harbor
-Jimmy had received training to be a kamikaze pilot
-Japanese civilians were so hungry and desperate they collected trash to eat
-Stayed in Japan for a few months
(00:56:40) End of Service Pt. 1
-Received points during service
-Points awarded based on rank, dependents, length of service, and combat seen
-Had amassed 29 points at the end of his service
-Hawaii was considered overseas duty because Hawaii was a territory at the time
-Meant getting points for not being Stateside
-Originally needed 85 points to be discharged, then it got reduced to 50 points
�-Had to stay in Japan for an extra 30 days because the unit didn't have a replacement cook
(00:58:53) Occupation Duty in Japan Pt. 2
-Never got to see any of the Japanese cities
-Figured that it wouldn't be worthwhile since the cities were in ruin anyway
-Went for a walk and found a burned out building in the countryside
-Next to it was a large piece of sheet metal on the ground
-Covered a hole in the ground where five, or six Japanese were living
-Gave a Japanese civilian a loaf of stale bread to take home
-Some men would go off base and get into trouble
-Drinking and fraternization were the biggest problems with GIs in Japan
(01:03:15) Life after the War Pt. 1
-Owned a sheet metal company for thirty five years after the war
-Did that without graduating from high school
(01:05:46) End of Service Pt. 2 and Coming Home
-Left Japan in early 1946
-Took a ship back to the United States
-Arrived in Seattle, Washington
-Wasn't a big ship and had poor ventilation so the ship stunk
-Boarded a train in Seattle, Washington
-Worked as a cook on the train
-Had a kitchen set up in the box car
-Did that from Seattle to Chicago
-Didn't mind working on the train
-Got discharged at Camp Grant, Illinois in February 1946
-Took a train from Chicago to Grand Rapids, Michigan
(01:09:07) Life after the War Pt. 2
-Went back to work at the sheet metal company that he worked at before getting drafted
-Did that for 17 years
-Started his own sheet metal company
-His old manager came to work for him
-Installed heating ducts all over the United States
-Had 62 people working for him
-Worked on some of the buildings at Grand Valley State University and Ferris
State
(01:11:36) Reflections on Service
-Had nightmares and lashed out at his wife after the war
-It was difficult for a couple years
-Developed from being in a state of constant stress, plus ingrained combat
training
-Had a job to do and did it and just tried to take it in stride
-It was hard coming back and readjusting, but getting his job back helped with
readjusting
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United States. Navy
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Raymond Lantz was born on September 26, 1922 in Washington, Illinois. He was drafted in Grand Rapids, Michigan in November 1942 and went to Camp Grant, Illinois for processing. He was sent to Camp Beale, California for basic training, and then became a cook in B Company, 83rd Medical Battalion, 13th Armored Division. He was stationed at Camp Beale for a year, and then went to Camp Bowie, Texas where he was reassigned to the 54th Evacuation Hospital. He stayed in Texas until late 1944 when the unit was sent up to Seattle to be deployed into the Pacific Theatre. They sailed to Hawaii and he was stationed at Schofield Barracks until late summer 1945. They sailed up to Japan and arrived on September 4, 1945 two days after the formal surrender of the Japanese. He was part of the occupation force in Japan for a few months working as a cook. He returned to the United States in early 1946 and got discharged at Camp Grant, Illinois in February 1946.
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Grand Valley State University Veterans History Project
Oral History Interview
Veteran: Gregg Larabel
Interview Length: (1:23:32)
Interviewed by James Smither
Transcribed by Chloe Dingens
Interviewer: We're talking today with Greg Larabel of Grand Rapids, Michigan and the
interviewer is James Smither of the Grand Valley State University Veteran’s History
Project. Okay Gregg begin with some background on yourself and to begin with where and
when were you born?
I was born in Grand Rapids, St. Mary’s November 2nd, 1944.
Interviewer: Okay now did you grow up in Grand Rapids or did you move around?
Yes, I grew up, went to St. Francis Grade School, Catholic Central High School and- and then
into the Air Force.
(1:04)
Interviewer: Okay and what was your family doing for a living when you were a kid?
My- my dad was the yardmaster of C&O Railroad and my mom worked various part-time jobs,
but she was mostly a stay-at-home, raising six kids.
Interviewer: Okay and had your dad been in the service or was he a little older or?
Yeah, he was in World War II, Army Air Corps. Never went overseas but was stationed in
Pennsylvania, Indiantown Gap and it was a war- prisoner of war camp.
Interviewer: Okay and did he ever talk about any of the experiences there?
No but he did write a journal and he's got, I have a journal of his that he wrote for one year when
he went in and while he was at Indiantown Gap so it was pretty interesting.
Interviewer: Okay alright so basically when you, after you graduated high school you
joined the Air Force?
�Yes sir.
(2:06)
Interviewer: Okay and what led to that decision?
Well my dad was a- a amateur radio operator and fixed radios and TVs for everybody in the
neighborhood and everybody in his circle of friends and I always was interested in- in electronics
so I thought I would go into the Air Force and- and learn electronics, and fortunately… you
never know what you're gonna do when you go in the Air Force but I scored high in- in
electronic aptitude and I was put into autopilot systems.
Interviewer: Okay so when do you actually join the Air Force?
October of, October 10th, 1962.
Interviewer: Okay and once you sign up now what happens to you?
Then I go to Detroit and take my physical and from there we go to Lackland Air Force Base.
(3:06)
Interviewer: Okay now was the physical a fairly serious one or a fairly cursory one?
No, seemed cursory there was a lot of guys that rejected for flat feet, asthma, and so on, but it
was kind of a routine. I was in pretty good shape from running cross-country.
Interviewer: Okay because it- it was probably a different atmosphere in 1962 than it would
have been in ‘66 or ‘68 with Vietnam going on.
Right.
Interviewer: At this point people who were there probably most of them wanted to be
there.
Right, that's correct it was pretty much volunteer.
�Interviewer: Yeah alright so where is Lackland?
Lackland is in San Antonio, Texas.
Interviewer: Okay and how did they get you down there?
We went by train, let's see what did we go by? Train and went, yeah, all the way.
(4:02)
Interviewer: And what do you remember about that train?
My- my first train ride.
Interviewer: Okay.
My dad worked for the C&O Railroad for years and years and I had never been on a train other
than on an engine looking at it, but I’d never been on a train ride and…
Interviewer: Okay.
So, it was my first experience.
Interviewer: Okay how long did it take to get down there?
A couple days at least, I don't remember a whole lot about it, but it took a couple days.
Interviewer: Okay so you get down to Lackland and then what happens once you arrive?
Then they start yelling at you and you go through the routines and you go through getting your
uniforms and getting yelled at again and then going doing a lot of paperwork and a lot of yelling
and finally you get to your- your dormitories and meet your technical drill sergeants and start
going through the procedures.
Interviewer: Okay so what did Air Force basic training consist of when you were there?
(5:06)
It was, I- I look back at it, it was pretty easy. It was eight weeks we had our obstacle course
which I can remember going through the obstacle course and going ahead of my flight and into
�the next flight and when I got through I kind of got my butt chewed for going too fast. I had ran
cross-country in high school and so it was pretty easy jumping over obstacles and going into the
water and I just enjoyed doing it but yeah I was doing it too enthusiastically.
Interviewer: Alright and how much emphasis do they put on discipline and following
orders?
(6:00)
Well that's where they- they break you down, they, you want to become a team member as
opposed to an individual and so it's a daily routine of shining your shoes, shining the floor,
making sure your bed is, can bounce a dime off of it. All of these insignificant things are all part
of a discipline team building and putting you into a- a group of men that are all doing the same
thing for now and that's I think that's what one of the most important things about basic training.
Interviewer: Okay now did you understand that at the time or figure that out later?
Not really you- you wonder, you know I looked back now and I- I understand why and just like
going to college it's a discipline and that's the- that's the key the discipline.
(7:06)
Interviewer: So, for us it's just do the reading, well in your case it’s make the bed, right.
Okay how long did basic training last?
It was eight-week course and it was a lot of in-class study, learning about the flag, learning about
the history of the Air Force, learning how to salute, how to march, it's… going through the gas
chamber, and shooting the M16 and that time we shot the M1 rifle.
Interviewer: Okay.
The M16 hadn't come out yet.
�Interviewer: Yeah, I mean the standard rifle for the army actually in ‘62 was gonna be still
the M14 which is improve… but you had the original World War II vintage M1s?
Right to start with, yeah.
Interviewer: Okay now what was the gas chamber for?
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I- I really don't know it again that's probably the discipline cause you would go in there, they
would turn the- the gas on and you would just stand there, it was tear gas and they would wait for
you to beg to get out of there and everybody would be crying and yelling and screaming, and
finally when they- they know when you've had enough and you'd run out of there and you'd be
eyes would be dry, crying, and…
Interviewer: Okay because sometimes when people talk about this in other branches of
service, I mean there's a gas mask they get to put on at some point.
Right.
Interviewer: Did you have that or?
We- we did at the very last minute they get the gas masks put on, but it was still traumatic you
know.
Interviewer: Yeah.
But it was part of that discipline.
Interviewer: Okay now had you already selected what your training was your- your
specific training was going to be, or did they determine that once you were there?
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They determined that's one of the classes that you go through and interviews and so on. I- I had
to assume that I was going into electronics because I scored real high in that and so I, at the end
�of basic training they tell you where you're gonna be going and mine was Amarillo, Texas for
automatic pilot school.
Interviewer: Okay and how long would you stay at Amarillo?
I went through Amarillo it was basically a- a twenty-eight-week course.
Interviewer: Okay.
And I got halfway through it and there was a- a glitch in the paperwork somewhere so I ended up
in another class and I finished that up, so I was there probably thirty-two weeks and finally got
through it.
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Interviewer: Okay what did the training there consist of?
Again it was, the dormitories, the routine, keeping your dorm clean, spit-shining your shoes,
inspection of your uniforms, but then during class time you would go to school in the morning
and they would teach you elect- basic electronics and then they would go into your primary
automatic pilots and, but it was sort of like basic training with the regimentation going to the KP
in the- in the cafeteria and then we had more free time in base- in technical school on the
weekends as opposed to basic training.
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Interviewer: Okay so what were the living conditions like there?
World War II dorms a lot of the- the wall board was unpainted but the- the dorms were spotless
because we kept them that way and no air conditioning but it was you know down in Amarillo,
Texas it- it gets kind of hot and it gets cold and hot and so we had our blankets and so on, but it
was- it was fairly good compared to what I hear of the Army.
�Interviewer: That would depend on where you were with- with the Army but that's you
know did you at least have stoves or heaters of some kind in the barracks?
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Yeah it- it had furnaces.
Interviewer: Okay.
Yeah.
Interviewer: And were you beyond the level of using coal, or were you?
Oh yes.
Interviewer: Okay.
Yeah it was- it was heated but it was cold.
Interviewer: Yeah and probably not very well insulated or anything else.
Right, right.
Interviewer: Okay and so what were you actually learning to do? They're training you
something with auto pilots?
Yeah you're first learned electronics and then you learned all about airplanes, the wings and the
fuselage, and so on, and then the- the autopilot system the pilot flips a switch and it'll fly by itself
until it gets to a- an airport and then it'll, pilot lands it but it pretty much took care of the airplane
in flight.
Interviewer: So you're learning basically how it works and how to maintain it?
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Yeah, changing servos that would put the ailerons and the elevators
in certain positions and at that time we were still using tubes if I can remember it correctly and
solid state had come at a- another time but we learned G limits- monitors that the aircraft would
�fly in a particular attitude and if it went, took too many G's it would flip off the autopilot system
and- and things like that that we would learn.
Interviewer: Okay now did you have, did you work with actual aircraft or just with the
parts?
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In the, in Amarillo we just learned the parts and the mach- the equipment we didn't go into the
actual aircraft until we went to our next base.
Interviewer: Okay now at least un- until the last few weeks were you pretty much with the
same group the whole way through?
Yeah you were with a- a class and- and then you were assigned to a dormitory and a squadron, a
flight and we stayed pretty much as a team.
Interviewer: Okay now when you went off the base what did you do?
Down in- down in Amarillo I had a- a chance to go out with my lieutenant, executive officer we
went out to some of the ranches and we would explore Indian Ruins and it was pretty interesting
and I'd never done that before out in the deserts and out in the pastures out there on the ranches,
we'd look for a circle of rocks, an old circle and it would, you’d sift through there and you'd
contain arrowheads, it was pretty interesting.
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Interviewer: Okay now was it normal for officers and enlisted to hang out together off
base?
No, no that was forbidden.
Interviewer: Okay.
�I think this relationship there was pretty much professional and it's something that was done, I- I
don't know how we ended up starting it but we both had the interest in arc- archaeology and so
on and so that started that.
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Interviewer: Alright now if you think back over the time in Amarillo are there any
particular events or experiences or broader impressions that kind of stay with you?
No, other than I remember the- the, our drill sergeants would say, “you're welcome to go AWOL
in Amarillo if you want, because we could see walking in Amarillo for four days and you'd still
be seen because it's so flat,” and that was a- a big joke that you could go AWOL in…
Interviewer: Okay was there much to do in the town? Was there much of a town there?
Well at the time there was some parks and we went out on, in some, there were some rivers that
we'd go to and just have a little fun at, but it was mostly everything on base.
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Interviewer: Did they have bars?
I don't recall because I wasn't old enough.
Interviewer: Okay.
And they do on all- all of our bases we have Airman's Clubs…
Interviewer: Right.
NCO Clubs, and Officers’ Clubs.
Interviewer: Okay so the drinking age there was 21 at that point or?
Yeah, yeah and I wasn't much of a drinker to start with.
Interviewer: Yeah, you’re a good boy from West Michigan.
Yeah.
�Interviewer: So of course not.
Yeah.
Interviewer: Yeah okay alright so you're there… okay so that's like close to eight months I
guess, alright and then where do you go once you finish that course?
Well I got my orders and all of us as a- a team members we don't necessarily travel to the next
base, we all go out as individuals and I think there was probably four of us that went to Luke Air
Force Base in Phoenix, Arizona.
Interviewer: Alright.
And that's where we learned our auto pilot skills.
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Interviewer: Okay, working with actual aircraft now?
Actual aircraft, we started with the F-100, that was called the lead sled and they used that
extensively in Vietnam.
Interviewer: Alright now describe that aircraft a little bit.
It was a one of the first what they call a Century Series aircraft, F-100 and had a big nose to for
the intake on the- on the jets and as far as my job I, we would lift up the hood on the- on the
aircraft and our equipment was right inside. And then some of them had two-seater aircraft and
some were single. We would go in, have to lift the canopy up and go in and set in the- in the
canopy or in the cockpit there and play with our instruments with the- the ones that we were in
charge of and that was interesting setting on an ejection seat with the power on and that was
another thing that we learned
about in school, there's a separate class in that so you always want to be careful as to what levers
you're pulling.
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Interviewer: Alright now did you ever get a chance to go up in an F-100?
No I didn’t, no I the- the closest I got that we would run ‘em and the we wouldn't run ‘em but the
crew chief would run it and then we would test our- our system by running the ailerons and the
elevators and the rudders and making sure everything worked correctly, properly.
Interviewer: Alright and how long did you stay at that base?
I was there for about a year and one of the things I remember about Luke Air Force Base is
you're at, near the Mojave Desert and you'd get these sandstorms coming through. You're out on
the- out on the runway and there you can see from the distance sandstorms, so you jump in the
cockpit and you close the cockpit canopy and- and there you set until the sandstorm runs over. Itit's quite a- it was quite an experience.
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Interviewer: Okay now how was life on this base different from life while you were
training?
That, completely different, you still had dormitory inspections probably a couple times a month,
and you had roommates, and you had a, we were in a two-man room. We were free to go around
the dorm- around the base, we had first couple months, we had to get permission to go off base
and that was kind of a liberty thing but on base you had the libraries, you had the cafeterias, the
bowling alleys, the Airman's Club, and there's plenty to do on an Air Force Base.
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Interviewer: Okay and what kind of aircraft were you working with?
That was the F-100 only on- on the at Luke.
�Interviewer: Okay and was there a particular squadron or a wing that was based there that
you were with or were you…?
Yeah, I wanted… the Air Force is kind of different from the Army and the Marines, we were in
a, I was in an A&E squadron, armament and electronics they call it. I don't recall 314th seems to
be the… but we were just members of that squadron and we worked on the aircraft but when we
left the base, when we rotated to another base we rotated again as individuals. We- the squadron
didn't move from one to another.
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Interviewer: So, the squadron was essentially part of sort of the staff of the base.
Part of a base, yeah.
Interviewer: Yeah so you're just in- in that ball game there.
Right, right.
Interviewer: Alright now so what year is this then that you’re…?
This would be in 1963.
Interviewer: Okay so at this point it's still pre-Vietnam although actually air assets are
already.
Yes.
Interviewer: Getting over there.
I had volunteered for Vietnam that- that year and I was single so I put in a volunteer statement
and nothing ever happened and- and then the only thing that happened to me was I got engaged
and from Luke Air Force Base I was- I was reassigned to the 33rd Tech Fighter Wing in Fort
Walton Beach, Florida, Eglin Air Force Base. During that time between Luke Air Force Base
and going to Eglin Air Force Base I got married.
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Interviewer: Okay.
So, I withdrew my Vietnam request.
Interviewer: Alright okay now at that point for a while there- there was a rule that- that
said that the married personnel didn't get sent overseas.
Right.
Interviewer: Or then- then later it was if you had children you didn't get sent overseas and
eventually all of those went away but I think some of that depended on when you started,
so you were early enough that…
I was early.
Interviewer: That those rules may just apply to you automatically.
Right.
Interviewer: And then be in place afterward.
Yeah.
Interviewer: Okay and so when- when did you go to Eglin then?
In April of ’65.
Interviewer: Okay.
We had just started a new wing that, it was an old wing brought up from World War II but 33rd
Tac Fighter Wing was the F-4c Phantom jet and that was the newest thing introduced to the Air
Force, it was brought over from the Navy. The Navy had had the F-4s and we adapted them for
the Air Force and that became, that replaced the F-100 in Vietnam and became the- the go-to
aircraft.
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�Interviewer: Okay and so for people who don't know a lot about that kind of thing what
separates the F-4 from the F-100?
All, the F-4 was all integrated systems, transistors, and diodes, and all you- you take a box out of
the aircraft and you put in another box. Whereas in the F-100 we would take the box out of the
aircraft, go back to the shop, fix it, put it back in the aircraft. These were all, the F-4 was all
modular everything was state-of-the-art.
Interviewer: Okay and then in terms just what the aircraft could do what's the difference?
The aircraft was much faster, more maneuverable, the F-100 like they called it the Lead Sled it
had- it had some good bombing capabilities but the F-100 was able to carry more of a payload
and was much faster than new F-4.
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Interviewer: The F-4 was- was much faster.
F-4 yeah.
Interviewer: Okay alright and as far as you were concerned as a mechanic did working on
the F-4 make the job easier? Harder? Or was there new challenges?
It was- it was much easier again it was a brand new- brand new wing and so ever, we were, we
even had to build our- our shops and everything was right from scratch. We were issued tools,
new tools and the maintenance, it was we probably worked for three or four days a week because
it was a brand new, we didn't even have all of our airplanes in. So, we were that new building up
the- the wing but working on the aircraft itself was, we learned, had to learn all about it. We went
to school because it was a brand new- brand new thing to us.
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Interviewer: Alright and then so you had gotten engaged. So, when did you get married?
�Got married just before getting to Eglin Air Force Base.
Interviewer: Okay now at that point could you and your wife live off-base or out of
what…?
What we did is we lived, had our honeymoon right there at Eglin Air Force Base and then she
went back home.
Interviewer: Okay.
And I stayed there and- and learned the job. We didn't plan on living together until I got out of
the Air Force in a- a year from then.
Interviewer: Okay.
And at- in ‘66 when I got, before I got out, I had a choice of going with the- the wing to Oslo,
Norway for a fire power demonstration or getting out and I decided to get out of the service.
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Interviewer: Okay.
And from that point, from Oslo then the wing went to, not the wing but the squad went to
Vietnam.
Interviewer: Okay.
So, I would have gone to Vietnam had I not gotten out of the Air Force.
Interviewer: Okay so at this point the Air Force for you that was just kind of one stage in
your life and now you were moving on.
Right.
Interviewer: Okay and so you go back to Grand Rapids so what year is that now that ‘66?
That was in ’66.
�Interviewer: Okay and once you got back to Grand Rapids what did you do?
I had the GI Bill so I was able to, I went down to Grand Rapids Junior College and then I went
over to Kendall School of Design for a semester and during all that time I was raising our first
child and going to work for Lear Siegler.
Interviewer: Okay.
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And we're working seven days a week, 10 hours a day doing almost the same job for Lear that I
was doing in the Air Force but with Lear I was testing the equipment as opposed to actually
using it.
Interviewer: Okay and so how long does that last?
About a year, let's see I got a little over a year and March of ‘68 I got itchy feet and I wanted to
go back into the Air Force.
Interviewer: Okay.
And so, I had to get into the Air Force before my second child was born because they had the
restriction you couldn't go in with more than two children or more than one child. So I went in in
March of ‘68 I went back into the Air Force.
Interviewer: Alright now that the climate in the country has changed quite a bit in- in that
time but then you get into early ‘68 you know the Tet Offensive is- is started, and anti-war
movement is ramping up, and you have a lot of stuff kind of going on. You also have a lot
of people who are trying to avoid the draft or at least stay out of the Army or the Marines
by trying to join the Air Force or- or the Navy. Now do you have a special status because
you were, you had prior service and training?
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No other than I was prior service so I was able to- to keep my rank of I- I believe I was E-3
Airman First Class and so I went back in but I couldn't get into autopilot systems, and I could get
into electronics and I went into what they call inertial navigation systems, Doppler radar.
Interviewer: Okay.
And so, I had to go back to school at Keesler Air Force Base in Mississippi.
Interviewer: Now when you went down there did your wife stay in Grand Rapids or did
she come down?
She traveled with me there.
Interviewer: Okay.
And we gotta, had a trailer to start with and I can remember moving into the trailer, into this park
and we were right on a bayou and we had talked about the storms coming through, the
hurricanes, and so on. And I asked the landlord, “when was the last hurricane or the highest
water?” And he pointed up on a tree the water level and it was above all the trailers there. He
said, “that's been a while,” and so we were there like I said on the bayou and we, my daughter
walked out to the dock I can remember and there was a water snake that went right in front of her
and my wife saw that and by the next day she had packed up and went back to Michigan.
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Interviewer: Okay.
So, I was there for a while for two or three months on my own and till I finally got a house and
we brought her back down.
Interviewer: Alright now how long were you at Keesler?
Keesler was from March of ‘68 till about to about ’70. It was, I got orders for Korea.
�Interviewer: Okay and the mean time so but was all that schooling or were you now
working on the base?
I- I was going to school for about six months and because I had prior electronics experience I
self-generated through the school and finished early and then I was selected as an instructor for
electronics and so I became an instructor there for probably a year and during that year we had
Hurricane Camille. And I can remember if you lived off base and they had a hurricane you had a
choice of going onto base because of the security and- and storm shelters and so on, or you could
stay off- off base. We elected to stay off base in our house and we were far enough off the beach
that we weren't gonna get flooded but I can remember looking out the window while Hurricane
Camille was coming through and the eye of the storm passed just to, in Gulfport just down from
us. And I could look out the window and saw all the trees going one way and then an hour or so
you could see the trees going the other way. And in the morning when we woke up, I had all- all
of us in the middle of the house, in the morning when I woke up the nails in the woodwork were
all out about a quarter of an inch from the house going back and forth and…
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Interviewer: Now did you lose your windows or did they?
Nothing was damaged.
Interviewer: Okay.
We had limbs and so on around but I got out and I drove down to the beach and on the highway
was an ocean-going vessel sitting there and you could look down on the beach and there would
be dead cows because far out on an island there was a dairy farm and all those cows got
washed…
Interviewer: Wow.
�On to the beach. And there was, the water side of the highway was just leveled, the motels, the
bars completely leveled.
Interviewer: Okay now was this Biloxi, Mississippi?
This is in Biloxi, yeah.
Interviewer: Okay alright now when something like that happens the Military often gets
involved in clean up and support and other things like that so…
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Right we had gotten out, the Air Force Base all the guys from the Air Force Base were assigned
to different groups and we would go out and police up the area and help in any way we could.
And probably the Air Force Base anywhere in the world, Army, Air Force, Marines there'sthey're there to help the communities and they certainly helped Biloxi.
Interviewer: Alright now are- are there other things that kind of stand out in your memory
from that time aside from the hurricane?
That, I would say pretty much no, we raised wire-haired terrier, but Biloxi was pretty much
getting family- family organized.
Interviewer: Right.
The kids were young, we were learning all about Military life, family life, and- and so on
meeting new friends.
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Interviewer: Okay so did you just sort of socialize with other people who also had young
kids and things like that? Was there some kind of network there?
There was a camaraderie of that, we learned that when I was in Florida, we got together with
young couples because we had one child and there's, we had neighbors across the street from us
�that kind of took us in, they were older, and took us in and showed us the ropes. But meet a lot of
new friends, I wish we had Facebook back then so I could keep track of them all but, yeah.
Interviewer: Alright now you're also in- in the South in the 1960’s and you'd come down
from Grand Rapids I mean and you had a civil rights movement going and there had been
segregation and things like that, I mean to what extent were you aware of any of that kind
of stuff?
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Such naive kids, my wife and I who, we had no idea that there was things like that going on. We
grew up at Grand Rapids in a- a pretty much all white school, we had two or three black students
in our class and didn't think anything of it. And we went down there and we saw these old shacks
along the road and we didn't see any of the white and black it was pretty much a community that
we didn't see any of that racism and so we didn't understand that that was really going on so we
were pretty much naïve kids.
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Interviewer: Alright okay, alright now the orders for Korea, was that a surprise or were
you expecting something?
Pretty much like I said in- in, we all go into our individual place- areas and- and there was five of
us out of the school, out of the instructor school that got orders. Three of us went to Korea and
two of ‘em went to Vietnam, so I could have gone to Vietnam very easily, but my assignment
was Osan Air Base, Korea.
Interviewer: Okay alright and how did they get you out to Korea?
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�Flew, we went from Washington, Fort Lewis Washington, Tacoma to Korea that was quite a
long- long ride you'd fly it into Alaska and then from Alaska to Korea.
Interviewer: Okay and where is Osan in Korea?
It's below the 38th parallel it's in probably the middle of South Korea, it's kind of a, there's
several air bases around there but Suwan and- and Osan were pretty close together.
Interviewer: Okay alright and now your job is essentially what you had…
My- my job is a little different this time like I said in- in Mississippi I was
working on Doppler radar, inertial navigation systems. We had I believe it was three or four CT
29s and they were used strictly to monitor the DMZ zone, so when they flew we didn't work, we
worked when they were- when they landed and if there was anything wrong we would go fix thethe Doppler radar.
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Interviewer: Okay.
But if there's nothing wrong we didn't work and so we spent a lot of downtime in Korea not
working and…
Interviewer: Alright now the aircraft itself was- was that propeller-driven or a jet?
Yep, it was propeller- driven it was a C-47.
Interviewer: Okay.
I believe C… CT 29s, it was a above the C-1, C-23s. This was a four-engine turboprop and
camouflage paint and strictly used for recon on the DMZ.
Interviewer: Okay so it had radar systems, so basically it would fly over and try to monitor
any kind of activity there?
Had- had cameras, big cameras and it’d take pictures of the DMZ.
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Interviewer: Alright now at that point in- in time I mean was there much tension there
along the border? Where their incidents are things that happened in that period?
Daily, they would rake the beach every day and you would walk down the street and every
intersection had a anti- aircraft in- encampment there. They took it very serious, you didn't,
Koreans themselves wouldn't- wouldn't walk down the street without carrying an ID card. The
ID card was their freedom and that they took the North and South very serious.
Interviewer: So, they were always concerned about infiltrators or anything else like that.
Yeah.
Interviewer: Now you said, “rake the beach,” where you near…
Yeah near the… I think it's a Yellow Sea, China's…
Interviewer: Was it on the western side, south of Seoul? Or where you on the other side?
No we were south of Seoul.
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Interviewer: Yeah.
But when, on the beach they would rake it so they could tell whether somebody landed or swam
or however and they could tell whether somebody was on the beach infiltrated, so.
Interviewer: Alright and now did you have Korean military personnel working with you at
all?
No, we had, this was all Air Force.
Interviewer: Okay.
Back at Luke Air Force Base we had civilians that would work with us, but this was all Air
Force.
�Interviewer: Okay but you still had contact with at least the civilian population that area…
Oh yeah, oh yeah we have papasan for our dormitories and we would have, we'd go off base and
fraternize with the locals. Our big thing was going to the orphanage, most every weekend we'd
take a Air Force vehicle and go to the orphanage and they would treat us like kings. We would
play with the kids and then they would put on a little skit for us and they would put a display of
fruit and vegetables and we'd eat, just it was very touching the orphanage.
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Interviewer: Okay now did you bring things to them or give them support of one kind or
another?
I don't think we brought anything to them, there was, it- it was more just going there and playing
with them, watching them, them having somebody. Koreans love to have a conversation with an
American, they- they like that English, learning English conversation that was one big thing that
stood out with me.
Interviewer: Okay and did some of the single guys have Korean girlfriends and things like
that?
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Yeah that was- that was part of a lot of- a lot of the Orientals that you see in the States nowadays
were from the Korean and Vietnamese and so on. It would be a thing, young ladies were kicked
out of their families at a young age 13, 14, 15. They had no use, these are stories that I've been
told and that I've seen, the- the boys in the family could produce, they would farm and so on but
the girls were not too much use. So they were sent off to the city, big city and Mamasan would
take ‘em in because they had no place to go, so Mamasan would have them work in their club,
tend bar, waitress, and buy ‘em clothes, feed ‘em, give ‘em a place to stay and before you know
�it the young lady is there for a year or two and she owes Mamasan several thousand dollars
because interest rate is so high and she could never pay it off. So, she's indebted, Mamasan takes
her ID card and she can't go out onto the streets and so she's pretty much an indentured slave
right there. So, a GI comes along and meets her in the bar and they start seeing each other and
before you know it, he pays off Mamasan and buys her salvation and then they move into a- a
little hooch themselves and end up getting married.
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Interviewer: Or not probably.
Transferred to the… what’s that?
Interviewer: Probably some of them don't get married.
Oh yeah, yeah but the ones that get married are transferred to the States.
Interviewer: Right.
And it's a whole- a whole new story.
Interviewer: Sure, okay and I guess I mean of course some of them would, they would wind
up, they’re working for Mamasan they wind up in prostitution in some cases.
Oh yes.
Interviewer: Now where there also drug problems at that time?
I didn't see- I didn't, the only thing I can remember is a few of the guys would smoke marijuana,
but as far as drugs no.
Interviewer: So, heroin hasn't gotten there or anything like that?
No, no it was- it was pretty clean there was the venereal disease and so on but then AIDS wasn't
there yet.
Interviewer: Right.
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And but it was pretty utopia, you'd go to the, you go down to the village and you'd go to the bars,
you'd drink, have fun, go back to the dormitories, you have to be off the streets by 10 o'clock at
night. And if you weren't off the streets then you would end up in a- a hooch with a girl and that
would be your life saving until the morning when you could get back out onto the streets.
Interviewer: Right, now did you learn to eat Korean food?
Loved it, I was 185 pounds when I went to Korea and when I left, I was a hundred and forty-five.
I ate everything, I'd go out to the farmers, out to the farmland and they would be welcome you in
and you'd sit around the table and they have about ten different items, they just ate tremendously
but it was dried fish, kimchi, which was very hot and everything was irrigated with human feces
and so you have to clean it real well and I would have all kinds of diarrhea and parasites and you
name it that but I- I went out and I enjoyed it.
(50:29)
Interviewer: Okay now did you develop any resistance to that stuff after a while or?
Evidently I could go down to the village and you'd go through the market and there would be
squid, dried squid hanging, you’d pull the tentacle off and you'd eat it like rawhide, you know
like jerky. And you'd go in, I- I'd eat the octopus, I’d eat it all. I pay for it.
Interviewer: And you’re still alive.
And I'd still pay for it, yeah.
Interviewer: Alright now I take it your, while you were in Korea your family was still back
in the States.
Right that was an unaccompanied tour.
Interviewer: Alright so how long total did you spend in Korea?
�13 months.
Interviewer: Okay.
I did come home for Christmas and saw my grand- my son for first time he was talking. Boy that
really tore me up.
Interviewer: Now- now when- when you got back, I mean did he know who you were?
(51:31)
Yeah, yeah.
Interviewer: Good because he wasn't afraid of you?
Yeah, we kept in touch you know through telephone and letters and so on.
Interviewer: Okay now when you called home could you just use a regular phone line for
that or?
Yeah.
Interviewer: Was there…
Yeah.
Interviewer: Okay so it wasn't like in Vietnam where you had to have a ham radio operator
in the middle or whatever.
Right, right.
Interviewer: Okay now I'm looking at your sequence, I thought one of the things that you
did before Korea was you spent some time as an Air Force recruiter?
Yeah that was your right we went from, well we went from…
Interviewer: Eglin?
Mississ- from Eglin to… how did we go?
�Interviewer: Or was it, or did you go from Mississippi to Grand Rapids?
Went from Mississippi to Korea.
Interviewer: Okay.
And then from Korea to Grand Rapids as an Air Force recruiter.
Interviewer: Okay and was that your first stint as a recruiter?
Yes, it was.
Interviewer: Okay so before we get there, other things that stand out in your memory from
time in Korea?
(52:36)
Pretty much the orphanages, the, I did fly on the CT 29 and we were able to fly along the DMZ
and the pilot and navigator and told us what he was doing and showed us everything. That was a
very interesting, but the life in Korea was pretty much on base, working, we went we- we met
some college students from Korea, and they were just interested in talking, they want- they want
in the most way to learn conversational English.
Interviewer: Right.
And so, we did that and…
Interviewer: Did you go into any of the larger cities like Seoul or any place?
(53:31)
Oh I was in Seoul with the friend of mine we- we walked, we were walking down the street in
Seoul and just enjoying, looking at different sites and so on and all of a sudden we went into this
teahouse and the lady told us, “you know you’re not supposed to be in this area,” and it was in a
trucking area, and I guess it was off-limits to either United States, U.S. people or it was off-limits
�to military and so we scurried out of there real quick, had no idea, we just walked, enjoined, and
so that was our tour in Seoul and then we, you go back and forth on a bus, a military bus.
(54:33)
Interviewer: Okay now were there ever actual- any actual incidents involving you know
North Koreans or people trying to get on your base or anything else like that?
No, it was pretty much peacetime, nothing to write home about.
Interviewer: Okay alright so you have, you finished Korea now you get to go back to
Grand Rapids and now you're working as an Air Force recruiter and now this is like early
1970s here, okay so describe what- what was that like?
Being an Air Force recruiter was one of the proudest moments, proudest times in my career. I
was, went to Lackland Air Force Base for recruiting school and then I came home, and I was
assigned to Allegan County, South Kent County, I had several about 20 schools that I would go
to each, I would make my rounds of all the schools. And the- the big thing that stands out is
some of the teachers and counselors that I had met complemented me on the fact that I would go
to the school and present myself and ask to see so-and-so student to recruit and unlike the other
Military services they would come in and they would demand this, and demand that, and I want
to see this person and that person, but mine was a low-keyed approach and I made a lot of friends
with the counselors, friends that I have today I even bowl with one that I talked- talked to about
going into the service and he ended up joining the Navy as an officer. So, these are the types of
friendships and- and things that I did as an Air Force recruiter.
(56:46)
Interviewer: Okay now did you encounter any kind of anti-war sentiment or would there
be people in some of these places who were hostile to you because you were recruiting?
�No, I- I always and this was in the- the height of Vietnam, I was always proud to walk around
with my uniform and I had never been harassed except one time I went into South Christian High
School and there was a very liberal female teacher that said something about it and her other
teacher they said, “just ignore her, she- she doesn't know what she's talking about.” But that was
the only thing that stood out because I had- I had never been harassed, never been spit on.
Interviewer: Well this was not exactly a hotbed of radicalism.
Right.
Interviewer: Especially outside of the City of Grand Rapids itself probably.
Right.
Interviewer: You would not encounter a lot of that too much, alright now what kinds of
things motivated people to join the Air Force at that point?
(57:49)
Jobs and schooling, the when I was there that my first tour, women were being accepted into the
Military to do non- non female roles. I had put in the first jet engine aircraft mechanic that was a
female. Beautiful little girl from Wyoming- Wyoming High School and she- she was a model, I
mean she was just gorgeous and I says, “you want to go in a jet engine?” “Yeah I want to do
something that is, that women don't do,” so she did go into the Air Force and she did go in to jet
engine mechanics and after about three years she says, “I'm tired of being one of the guys and
getting grease under my fingers,” and so the Air Force offered her any job, she was qualified for
everything she- she scored high and she decided that no I'm gonna get out. And so, they offered
you know one or the other, she decided to get out and to this day she had, I still see her from time
to time and she says, “I wished I had stayed in.” And that's the- the type of person I think that I
was putting in the Air Force I have a- a log scrapbook then when they come back on leave and I
�encourage them to stop in and see me. I have ‘em sign-in and take a picture and see how they're
doing. Several of my recruits have retired from the Air Force and the ones that stayed in for four
they said, “it was great time, I enjoyed it, I learned a lot but I'm not gonna do it again,” you
know.
(1:00:06)
Interviewer: Yeah at this point did you have some people who were doing this to stay away
from the draft?
Yes but most of them were I would say most of them I recruited myself. They- they didn't
necessarily come into my office to get out of the draft.
Interviewer: Okay.
But yes, some of them were motivated to- to do that but most of them were coming in to look for
a job.
Interviewer: Alright now how many people would you get in a month or did you have
quotas or?
I had quotas, we would have maybe four or five men a month and then they started putting
quotas on us for the females and I did very well, and I think I won an award for recruiter of the
month for female. They also had prior service quotas and a lot of the prior servicemen that I put
in I still see today and communicate with them today. The quotas were met without any problem,
the Army, Navy, they would always, we were in the same offices all together and would always
see if they had any- anybody that I could give ‘em and we did, a lot of the kids that didn't qualify
for us we'd send ‘em over to the Navy, and the Army, and the Marines.
(1:01:47)
�Interviewer: Yeah, I guess how tough were the rules or the expectations?
Our- our expect- expectations on qualifying mentally were strict. We would require on a Air
Force qualifying test a score of at least I believe it was 31, I'm not exactly sure but the Army and
the Marines could go down a- a couple points and so we’d send ‘em over. Physically if they
didn't pass our physical, they pretty much couldn't pass the physical for the other services either.
Interviewer: Yeah right did you have people who didn't pass the physical who’d go away,
get in better shape, and come back?
(1:02:36)
Yeah had a young lady that had to lose her weight and she lost it and she's retired, stayed in. I
just communicated with her a- a few weeks ago on Facebook and…
Interviewer: Okay now how long did that first stint in Grand Rapids last?
Four years.
Interviewer: Okay.
It was a four-year tour at the end of it I was the tester, I would travel around West Michigan up
to Traverse City and give the ASVAB Armed Services Vocational Aptitude Battery.
Interviewer: Right.
To schools, to the Air Force offices, to give the tests to the students.
Interviewer: Okay now do you, did they, did the Air Force just rotate you out of that
assignment or did you ask for something different?
(1:03:28)
No, it was a normal rotation and from there I was assigned to Arkansas.
Interviewer: Okay.
Little Rock, Arkansas.
�Interviewer: Alright and what were you gonna do there?
I was working on C-130s in my inertial navigation Doppler radar.
Interviewer: Okay.
And it was like a duck out of water going from recruiting back into the maintenance and that
time they went from transistors to solid-state, they hadn't gotten into what they have today yet
but.
Interviewer: So, it wasn't computerized yet?
It- it was, we were always computerized we had kind of like an analog computer as opposed to
the digital age. Looking back at- looking back at Little Rock was, it- it still old-school electronics
but the C-130 aircraft is- is still going today and it was a workhorse in Vietnam and that's whatthat's what we use.
(1:05:00)
Interviewer: Yeah so that's the big cargo plane.
Yeah.
Interviewer: Okay now where some of the C-130s fitted with extra equipment because a C130 can do different things.
It can, we used it strictly for cargo.
Interviewer: Okay alright and now did you have to learn new technology or upgrades from
what you had worked with before?
Pretty much I just learned it through this squad, through the shop. I was assigned to work with a
few guys, and we learned C-130, we had a- a classroom set up for a couple weeks.
Interviewer: Now what rank were you at this point?
I was a staff sergeant, E-5.
�Interviewer: Okay so when you come in and you join this particular group you have some
seniority or…
Yeah, I was in charge, I had two or three people under me that would work.
(1:06:02)
Interviewer: Okay now did your family move with you to Little Rock?
The family was with me, took the dogs and kids and jumped in a, I think we took a U-Haul to
Little Rock and got a house. We lived on base so that was kind of nice.
Interviewer: Now was there a school on the base or did the kids go off base?
Yeah, on- on base housing and they had the school right on the base and some of the high school
kids would go off base but there was a- an elementary school on base.
Interviewer: Alright and how long were you there?
(1:06:50)
A year, about a year and a half and one of the things that I- I forgot about was I was a bowler and
I started, I've always been a bowler all my life but in 1972 when I was a recruiter I started getting
active in bowling and I was a- a junior bowling coach, my daughter was one of my students, one
of my bowlers and I became active in the Association, the Bowling Association and became a
director of the Grand Rapids Bowling Association. So, when I went to Arkansas, I was a junior
bowling coach there because all of our Air Force bases have bowling centers and entertainment
like that. As a matter of fact, a bowling center on an Air Force Base is the community center that
everybody goes to to have coffee, to eat, to socialize, and so on. And so, in Arkansas I was a
junior bowling coach and then became a member of the, their association board and this is where
I met a lot of people that I would be eventually stationed with in another base.
(1:08:34)
�Interviewer: Okay.
And so, in Arkansas we went out to the Diamond Mines in- in Arkansas, one of our things to do,
activities. And I did a- a lot of metal detecting out there besides our, we in the Air Force you
work about eight hours a day and you have Saturdays and Sundays off unless there's activities.
So that's how I sold the Air Force too as a recruiter, was it was like a job, full-time job that you're
on call 24 hours a day, seven days a week, but you only work just like at normal, normal job.
Interviewer: Okay now what brought the Arkansas assignment to an end?
(1:09:35)
From there we went to, I went to Omaha, Nebraska for a school to learn- to learn the KC-135
and we were on our way to Okinawa and so I- I learned the KC-135 that's a big Air Force tanker
and that's what I was gonna be working on in Okinawa.
Interviewer: Okay so when do you get to Okinawa?
That I went there in ‘77 and from ‘77 to ’80.
Interviewer: Okay.
And there I had my family and we were able to bring our dog and flew over with the family on a
big 747. That took quite a while.
(1:10:37)
Interviewer: Yeah.
I remember the kids laid out the 77…7…
Interviewer: 747, yeah.
…47 was empty in the back so we were able to put all the armrests out and we would sleep on
the eight seats across and that was quite a - quite an experience.
Interviewer: Okay so what base were you at in Okinawa?
�We were at Kadena Air Base and overseas they call them Air Bases as opposed to Air Force
Base.
Interviewer: Right.
In the United States and we went to- got to Kadena and we had a little house off base and met
helicopter pilot as our neighbor and became real good friends with them. And did a lot of
hanging out, again he was an officer and I was an enlisted man but that, the fraternization there
was we were neighbors, you know. And so eventually we moved on base to a brand-new house
on- on a hill and it was pretty neat, everything is made of concrete because of the sy- the
typhoons.
(1:11:59)
Interviewer: Right.
And spent three and a half years on Okinawa and kids went to American school there and we
worked KC-135s.
Interviewer: Okay so what were you doing in your regular job then?
We'd go out and we'd work on the- on the airplanes. The pilots would fly ‘em and if there was
any- anything wrong with ‘em they’d write it up and we'd go out and take care of the write-ups,
go back to the shop.
Interviewer: Were you still working mostly with radar systems or?
Yeah.
Interviewer: Okay.
I'd be working with Doppler radar and…
Interviewer: And was this basically the same that you'd had on the C-130s in Arkansas?
Yes, pretty- pretty much the same.
�(1:12:55)
Interviewer: Alright and your, what was the relationship between the Americans and theand the locals in Okinawa?
Very, very good the only trouble we ever had was a- a few of the people would be against the B52s coming into land because they were nuclear capable.
Interviewer: Right.
And we had the SR-71 and there was a- a few protesters but other than that Okinawa was a small
island, about fifteen miles long and about two miles wide and we were there for three and a half
years you know just enjoying it. It was like subtropical, not as tropical as Hawaii, but this is
where all the mainland Japanese would come and honeymoon and- and visit, it was just a
wonderful place.
(1:13:59)
Interviewer: Okay alright so and of course this is all, now this is all post-Vietnam, so you
don't have anything… Cold War tensions are not really high at this point.
No Iran was one of the…
Interviewer: Yeah.
One of the problems there. Matter of fact one of our- one of our squadrons was lost in- in the
Iran when they went to rescue the hostages and all of a sudden I was involved in bowling again
and I was the island secretary treasurer of the Okinawa Bowling Association so we had an
intramural squad, a- a bowling league and one day one of the sq- one of the teams was gone and
that was the team that went to Iran to rescue the hostages and it was all top secret, we didn't
know a lot of it but you know the word gets around.
(1:15:13)
�Interviewer: Because I guess what there was that that was a sort of a failed attempt to get
in there and rescue, I think it was a heli- collision of helicopters I think, so it was a
helicopter unit or whatever that you lost.
Yes.
Interviewer: Yeah.
And so that was the- the era of when we were there.
Interviewer: Right and how old were you, were your kids by the time you left?
Let's see in ’77, ‘80 my daughter was fourteen and my son was twelve.
Interviewer: Okay.
And from there we went to recruiting duty.
Interviewer: Okay and was that back in Grand Rapids again?
(1:15:58)
Yeah.
Interviewer: Okay.
Yeah, but back in Okinawa against, my it seems like my career had a dual career with the Air
Force and bowling. On Okinawa I was the island secretary treasurer.
Interviewer: Right.
Like I had said, before but we had seven bowling centers in Okinawa, on the Marine base and
Army base and once a year I had to have to go to all of those bases and inspect the pins, the
lanes, the, that's what I did and so everything was geared around bowling. My commander and
myself, and my wife, and- and his wife, we vacationed together, we bowled together on four
different leagues, and my commander was a- a major and still are friends today. He got called on
the carpet a few times for fraternizing but it's something that we did.
�(1:17:04)
Interviewer: Yeah.
Our- our kids and their kids vacationed together on the- at the recreate- the recreation site on
Okinawa and that’s what we did.
Interviewer: Yeah, alright well I’ve always had the impression that- that the Air Force was
at least a little more casual about that than the other branches.
Yes.
Interviewer: But they’re, they still frown on it though.
Right, right it was kind of an unwritten rule, but you know as- as long as you don't get involved
with the- the military operation and insubordination and so on.
Interviewer: Right, okay now you had talked earlier about helping recruit women into
some of these different occupations so when you were in Arkansas or Okinawa were there
women in any of your teams at this point?
(1:17:57)
Oh yeah, yeah I was in charge of young lady that was in Doppler radar with me and severalseveral women were out there on the flight line pulling aircraft equipment around, and being a jet
engine mechanic, and being an aircraft mechanic, being a cop that's one thing that women
weren't allowed to do at one time, and I put several of them in as security policemen.
Interviewer: Alright now were you aware of any issues of harassment or other kinds of
problems because they were women? Or was that not on your radar?
No, again it was kind of a unique thing, new thing and I would imagine I didn't hear anything,
you always do know that some of the old-timer’s, “women aren't allowed in here” and so on but
it was never out in the open.
�Interviewer: Okay.
(1:19:04)
If somebody didn't like it, they kept it to themselves.
Interviewer: Or if it was happening it wasn't getting reported to you.
Correct.
Interviewer: Yeah.
Right.
Interviewer: Okay alright so now you're going back, now would the Grand Rapids
recruiting assignment would be the last- would that be the last thing you did or?
That's the last thing I did and unfortunately, I couldn't get into Grand Rapids I was assigned to
Kalamazoo.
Interviewer: Okay.
So for a year I was in Kalamazoo and kept fighting my way to get back to the Grand Rapids
office but I would travel from Grand Rapids to Kalamazoo every day and because I had a house
that we bought when I was a recruiter the first time and we just rented that out while I was gone.
Interviewer: Right, okay now so you do this for about four years?
Four year.
Interviewer: In Michigan again, okay and now what leads you to retire out of the Air
Force?
(1:20:01)
Well my kids were in high school and I had an option of going somewhere else I didn't know
where, but going somewhere else or retiring and I thought as long as the kids now were in high
�school they had had friends before when we were there in- in ‘72 and so I wanted to keep
stability there.
Interview: Right.
They were- they were good in every school that they went to in the Military, they adapted well
but I thought it was time that we just settle down.
Interviewer: Okay and then did you find a job, a civilian job then?
I changed my uniform on Friday and put on my suit on Monday and sold real estate.
Interviewer: Okay.
And this is where I met Bill Schraeder and my…
Interviewer: So what- what led you into- into real estate?
Bill Schraeder, I was in the- in the office and recruiting office and Bill being the Military guy
that he is he would come into the office and he would talk to me, “I'm in real estate now, you
want to get into it.” So, him and I got into, I got into real estate with him in another office and we
became friends from that point on.
Interviewer: Alright so I guess when- when you look back now over your service career
what do you think you took out of that or how did that help to shape you?
(1:21:39)
It definitely made a man out of me like they all say going into Military, make a man outta you.
The- the probably the biggest influencer and so on is bowling. I bowled a lot in the Air Force as I
had explained and after I sold real estate, I bought a bowling center, I went, I graduated from
Davenport college the same year I retired from the Air Force.
Interviewer: Okay.
�And the Air Force paid three quarters of my tuition all the way through twenty years and I finally
retired or finally…
Interviewer: Graduated.
Graduated from Davenport College and I did a- a business plan on a bowling center and not
knowing I was gonna buy one six years later when I retired, I sold real estate and then I went in
1990 bought a bowling center. And one that I grew up in and…
(1:22:48)
Interviewer: So, which- which one is that?
Paragon Bowling Center in Burton Heights.
Interviewer: Okay is that still up and running?
It's still up and running, I've remodeled it from the early retro 1945 era to present and I had it for
sixteen years, sold it in 2006 and now I just drive Uber, work for the Christmas light show, and
metal detect, I'm a ring finder.
Interviewer: Very good. Alright well the whole thing makes for pretty good story and
definitely a distinctive one so thank you very much for coming in and sharing.
I appreciate it.
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Gregg Larabel was born on November 2, 1944 in Grand Rapids, Michigan. After he graduated high school, Larabel joined the Air Force on October 10, 1962 due to his interest in electronics. He attended basic training in San Antonio, Texas, and was then transferred to Amarillo, Texas for a thirty-two-week Pilot School where he was taught basic electronics and flight technology. After graduating Pilot School, Larabel was transferred to Luke Air Force Base in Phoenix, Arizona, where he was assigned to the 314th Armament and Electronics Squadron and worked on military aircraft, particularly the F-100 Super Sabre. After his training at Luke Air Force Base, Larabel was reassigned to the 33rd Tech. Fighter Wing at Eglin Air Force Base in Fort Walton Beach, Florida, where he attended more schooling to help work on the more technologically advanced and easier to maintain F-4 Phantom II. In 1966, Larabel left the Air Force and returned to Grand Rapids where he married, had a child, attended Grand Rapids Junior College and then Kendall College of Art and Design before going to work for the Lear Siegler Corporation testing automotive equipment. Two years later, he went back into the service, attending schooling and working at Keesler Air Force Base in Biloxi, Mississippi. When Hurricane Camille struck Biloxi, he and his Squadron were tasked with providing relief to the devastated local population. Larabel was later transferred to Osan Air Force Base in South Korea where he worked as a mechanic on aircraft which monitored the DMZ. Back in the United States, Larabel worked as an Air Force Recruiter for schools across Kent County, Michigan, then was rotated to Little Rock, Arkansas, where he began work as a radar mechanic on AC-130 cargo planes at the rank of E5 Staff Sergeant. In Little Rock, Larabel also became the Junior Bowling Coach for the on-base Bowling Association. He was then sent to Omaha, Nebraska, for a course on the KC-135 Stratotanker before being deployed to Kadena Air Base in Okinawa from 1977 to 1980. Before retirement, Larabel transferred back to recruiting in Michigan and later went to work selling real estate and purchased a bowling center in 1990. Reflecting upon his service in the Air Force, Larabel believed it made a man out of him and joked how bowling continued to capture his attention and influence his side careers while in the service.
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Grand Valley State University
Veterans History Project
Afghanistan (2012-2013)
Joseph Larner
Total Time – (00:49:19)
Introduction – (00:00:15)
Joseph Larner was born in Lansing, Michigan on September 29th, 1976 and grew up in Bath,
Michigan; his father was a mechanic and his mother worked as a dental hygienist- Joe also has
two brothers and is the middle child (00:00:53)
Joe graduated from Bath High School in 1995 and attended and graduated Lansing Community
College as a surgical technician (00:01:36)
◦ At the age of 29 Joe decided to enlist in the National Guard in the year 2007; Joe had a full
time civilian job and “really had no reason” why he joined the National Guard and the Army
over other branches of military (00:03:05)
◦ He did his training as a combat engineer at Ft. Leonard Wood, Missouri and was gone just
under six months; he left on October 2nd 2007 for training (00:03:58)
◦ Joe recalls that his training wasn't too challenging for him and psychically it wasn't an issue
at all, but mentally it was a bit more torturous (00:06:15)
◦ He has been assigned to the 507th Engineer Battalion since he finished basic training
(00:07:13)
▪ Joe is now full time with the National Guard and admin and commanding officer of his
company (00:08:25)
▪ As soon as Joe and his company got word they were going to be deployed to
Afghanistan the training intensified; they had about a year notice of their deployment
(00:12:14)
▪ He trained in the Mojave Desert in California to train and prepare for Afghanistan; there
was a lot of human interaction and real world scenarios to train to (00:13:04)
Afghanistan (00:14:50)
Joe and his unit deployed in May of 2012 to Afghanistan; they flew from Grand Rapids Airport
to Ft. Bliss in Texas and stayed there for several weeks- much of it was administrative and
medical clearance; from there they trained for a month and a half in New Mexico (00:16:37)
From Ft. Bliss he traveled to Bangor, Maine, from there he traveled to Ireland and finally
Tajikistan (00:18:25)
◦ They were briefed in Tajikistan for a few weeks; he was told what to expect while in
Afghanistan as it was quite intense (00:18:58)
◦ From Tajikistan, Joe and his unit flew on a C130 cargo plane and describes the process as
feeling strange; they landed at Camp Leatherneck in Afghanistan (00:21:48)
▪ The heat of Afghanistan was quite extreme and was the first thing that really hit Joe
(00:22:20)
▪ Camp Leatherneck was a Forward Operating Base (FOB) and was ran by Marines when
Joe first got there but was eventually taken over by the Army; he described it as a little
mini-city in the middle of the desert (00:23:13)
▪ As a combat engineer Joe was trained to in Improvised Explosive Device (IED)
detection and worked as support for the battalion commander (00:24:18)
▪ Joe's battalion commander went on several missions with him as well as the company
�chaplain and the command sergeant major (00:26:41)
Joe and the unit did security for other companies all year long as well; they would
put a few gun trucks between the other trucks to keep everyone secure- Joe has been
in large convoys of 60-70 vehicles long but they are usually 10-12 vehicles long
(00:27:39)
On average most of Joe's convoys were about 8-12 vehicles long; most of the time
he was heading to different FOB's (00:28:27)
After a few days in Afghanistan, Joe and his crew received a battle hand off from the
unit that was there before them- the prior unit would tell them of important areas of
interest (00:30:35)
Although Joe was trained to detect IED's, he was put on a team that stuck to doing
security- he also trained the Afghan National Army on combat engineer tactics
(00:31:50)
◦ Joe's experience training Afghan soldiers concluded with him saying that they
don't have the time or the patience to take the precautions that the Americans
took with IED's (00:33:23)
◦ Sometimes they received intelligence about IED locations through Afghani
locals although they would mostly get their information from their
telecommunications headquarters (00:35:24)
◦ His experience with the local population was 50/50 as far as behavior went:
sometimes the locals would wave to them and sometimes they would throw
rocks at them, it was pretty tough to deal with (00:37:40)
▪ When Joe was at Camp Leatherneck he had pretty good contact with his
family back at home; but when he went out on missions it was quite tough to
keep in touch (00:39:18)
▪ Joe provides that near the end of their deployment, the morale was actually
good although it was quite hot for them which meant a lot of action- they
were all ready to come home (00:42:24)
Back to the United States (00:44:53)
Joe and his unit were sent back to Ft. Bliss in Texas for a few weeks; he surprised his three
children by coming home a month early (00:45:59)
Joe now works full time for the National Guard and he loves it (00:49:13)
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Iran Hostage Crisis, 1979-1981--Personal narratives, American
Korean War, 1950-1953--Personal narratives, American
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Oral history
Persian Gulf War, 1991--Personal narratives, American
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Vietnam War, 1961-1975--Personal narratives, American
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Larner, Joseph (Interview outline and video), 2014
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Joseph Larner was born in Lansing, Michigan on September 29th, 1976. Joe decided to join the National Guard at the age of 29 in 2007. He trained as a combat engineer at Ft. Leonard Wood, Missouri. Joe was assigned to the 507th Engineer Battalion. Joe and his unit deployed to Afghanistan in May of 2012. Joe did security for convoys for most of his time in Afghanistan. He is currently serving in a full time position with the Guard.
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Grand Valley State University
Veterans History Project Interview Notes
Length: 49:07
Albert Larsen
WWII Veteran
United States Navy; December 1942 to October 1945
YMS minesweeper
(00:25) Pre-enlistment:
• Born in Arcadia but moved at the age of five to Chicago
• Lived in Chicago for seven years (1928-34)
• Left Chicago right after Worlds Fare closed and moved to Corunna, MI
• Moved to Grand Rapids were he finished his senior year in high school, but had to
graduate in Corunna
• After graduation he drove trucks for a company in Grand Rapids
• Soon after getting a job he got a draft notice from Uncle Sam
(2:11)Enlistment/Training:
• Joined Navy because the amenities
• Trained for nine weeks in the Great Lakes
• While at the Great Lakes naval base he stayed in new facilities, but they lacked
hot water
• Went to diesel school at Navy Pier for a total 18 weeks
• After diesel school he went to the Fargo building in Boston where he waited until
he was sent to his next location
• From Boston he was sent to Boothbay Harbor where he would overlook the ship
building process in order to have a better understanding of the ships
• Saw the YMS ships being built in Chicago while on liberty time
(5:31) Description of the Mine sweeping ships (YMS):
• Length was 136 ft., weight was approximately 200 tons, draft was 9 feet
• The ships had to go through a process that demagnetized them
(6:56) Boothbay (further description):
• Fishing town
• He waited there until his boat was finished
• They took the boat for a trial run in the Atlantic
• Brought the boat to Boston where they took part in a shakedown cruise (test drive
that tested the limits of the ship)
(9:03) The Captain:
• He was 70 years old when he was brought back into service
• He owned the Marblehead, MA, newspaper.
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After the mission had been seen through the executive officer took over as captain
of the ship
(9:44) Patrols:
• From Boston they would patrol from Nova Scotia to Key West, FL.
• They would be searching for U-boats, and even sent depth charges once after a
possible sighting by their radar/sound man.
(10:55) Leaving for England:
• They left April 1st 1943
• The convey consisted of 129 ships
• The weather was very bad during the trip there (100 ft. waves)
• It took 31 days to reach England
(13:15) In England:
• Went to Plymouth and Isle White
• Lived on board their ship
• Got to go ashore/shore leave- went to London from Plymouth
(14:45) Before D-day operations:
• Had to clear the beaches for the invasion at Omaha
• Did the sweeping only hours before the full invasion
• They were shot at during those sweeping mission which they did with no escort
• After the invasion they went on more sweeping mission.
• Had to avoid enemy fire using tactics the captain had learned to employ
• They had no knowledge of the plans before D-day
• In total five mine sweeping ships were sunk
(18:15) Mine Sweeping:
• 3 types of mines: Contact, Magnetic, and Acoustic
• Contact mines are the types of mines we think of when we see mines with spikes
jutting out of them. Ships simply ran into them to set them off
• Magnetic mines would be set off by the metal on the ships
• Acoustic mines could be blown up a ½ mile away with an acoustic hammer
• They were on sweeping duty for around 6 months
• They were one of the three most damaged ships in the invasion that did not sink
• They dry docked at a French floating dock
• While there they helped unload patients
(24:10) Story of Doctor from Michigan:
• Meet Doctor Mayo who he knew once
• He was being sent home because his nerves were bad due to working on so many
patients during the war
(27:00) Cherbourg:
• The buildings were in shambles
�• The city was being made read to be used a base of operations
• He talked about one particular friend that live in Cherbourg that was an artist
(27:58) New Orders:
• He and his crew got orders to go back to the US a 1 ½ years after the invasion
• Went through Panama canal to LA
• Went to dentist while docked in LA, and got new order due to his visit
• New job was driving trucks as part of a motor pool on base
• His boat went on to Japan leaving him in LA (bad weather on way to Japan)
(29:59) Atomic Bomb:
• His only knowledge of the event was what was on the news
• Remembered people being happy about the news because they were getting ready
to invade Tokyo
(30:04) After Discharged:
• He went on to do mechanic work (truck lines, locomotives)
• He was never without work and never unemployed
(31:10) Pearl Harbor:
• Only remembered the emotions of excitement over the news
(32:08) Experience on the Ocean:
• Waves were very high which caused many to be sea sick
• “Wooden ships make iron men”
(33:12) Death of FDR
• Made him uncertain of how things would turn out
• Truman was thought to be the gutsy one
(33:53) Story of French Fisherman:
• While sweeping for mines near France they found a mine near a fisherman who
did not understand their calls to him to get out of the area. The mine was blown
up and the resulting explosion caused the fisherman to paddle away frantically.
He understood then.
(35:00) Chief Petty Officer 1st Class:
• In charge of the engine room on the starboard watch
• Some description of the leadership role involved
(36:00) D-Day:
• He describes the sight of the ships and planes during the invasion
• He also describes how the docks were built of the shore during the invasion
• Some depiction of what it was like for the men that were sent to the beaches
• Boat got repaired while the main invasion took place
�(40:40) After Invasion:
• Had to get refueled by tankers
• Had further missions to mine sweep rivers
• Docking in France
(42:28) Sinking of the 304:
• Saw his ship in the TV program called Sea Detectives
• The 278 and the 231 were also there
• He was sleeping at the time
• Soldiers who had witnessed the explosion had been injured by concussion
(43:55) Damage to the Ship:
• Motors would get loose and the engine would shift an inch out of line
• The rudders would be squashed shut
(45:00) Battleships:
• He could feel his clothes blow around with each shot of their armament
• His boat stayed close to the heavy cruiser Augusta
• They were about a ½ mile out from the beach
(46:01) Army Ducks [DUKWs]:
• They would be loaded of liberty ships
• Many would sink do to the choppy waters
• Picked up one guy seven times due to his duck sinking that many times
• Tanks would also launch into the water with very little success
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Grand Valley State University. History Department
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Afghan War, 2001--Personal narratives, American
Iran Hostage Crisis, 1979-1981--Personal narratives, American
Korean War, 1950-1953--Personal narratives, American
Michigan--History, Military
Oral history
Persian Gulf War, 1991--Personal narratives, American
United States--History, Military
United States. Air Force
United States. Army
United States. Navy
Veterans
Video recordings
Vietnam War, 1961-1975--Personal narratives, American
World War, 1939-1945--Personal narratives, American
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Grand Valley State University. University Libraries. Special Collections & University Archives
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Smither, James
Boring, Frank
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Larsen, Albert (Interview outline and video), 2007
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Larsen, Albert
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Albert Larsen served in the Navy during WW II as a diesel mechanic for a mine sweeping ship (YMS 231). He served from 1942 to 1945 and reached the rank of Chief Petty Officer 1st class. His training took place in both Michigan and on the east coast, and his time overseas was spent in England and along the coast of France. His interview includes descriptions of his life during training and his time on the open water. The major operation mentioned in the interview took place during D-Day off the Omaha landing site. His re-counting includes details about the mines, enemy fire, types of ships, operational tactics, and the damage sustained by his and other ships. He discusses his down time in the US, England and France.
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Smither, James (Interviewer)
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Veterans History Project (U.S.)
United States--History, Military
Michigan--History, Military
World War, 1939-1945--Personal narratives, American
United States. Navy
Veterans
Video recordings
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2007-07-03
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Allendale (Mich.)
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Former President Gerald Ford touring campus with Grand Valley's president Arend D. Lubbers
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Larsen, Rex
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Former President Gerald Ford touring campus with Grand Valley's president Arend D. Lubbers, ca. 1978.
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Grand Valley State University
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Allendale (Mich.)
Ford, Gerald R., 1913-2006
Lubbers, Arend D.
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1978
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Grand Valley State University
Veteran’s History Project
World War II
Samuel Latigo
Interview Length: (00:23:58:00)
Pre-Enlistment / Training (00:01:01:00)
Born in San Antonio, Texas on February 19, 1927 (00:01:01:00)
Went to school, but eventually stopped going when it got to the point that his family
needed financial help (00:01:07:00)
His grandmother raised him because his mother died when he was five years old and
when he was fifteen years old, his grandmother told him that he needed to go and look for
a job (00:01:23:00)
He walked all over San Antonio looking for a job and was unable to find one; he was on
his way home when he stopped at a gas station and asked the workers who was in charge
(00:01:43:00)
o The workers pointed to another man, so Latigo went up and asked whether or not
he needed any help; the man eventually gave Latigo the job after asking whether
or not he was looking for one (00:02:00:00)
o Worked at the gas station to the point that he received the keys to the station and
helped run the station (00:02:27:00)
Eventually got to the point that all his relatives, mainly his first cousins, were joining the
service, with the majority were going into the Navy (00:02:45:00)
When he turned seventeen, he had his parents give him permission to join the Navy
because that was where the majority of his cousins were enlisted (00:03:01:00)
Upon joining the service, the Navy sent him to San Diego, California, where he received
his basic training (00:03:30:00)
After he completed his basic training, the Navy allowed him to go home for three days
before he returned to California for more drilling (00:03:41:00)
o At the time, the men called the training a “grinder”, which consisted of men
marching in an empty parking lot (00:03:54:00)
Following the “grinder”, the men received amphibious training at Coronado Island, an
island next to San Diego and after the training, the Navy placed the sailors on a training
vessel that took the men to Astoria, Oregon (00:04:04:00)
o At Astoria, the sailors were assigned to a ship, which ironically, had not yet been
commissioned, thus making the sailors part of the ship’s original crew and giving
Latigo what was then called “the rights of the plank” (00:04:29:00)
Once they received their assignment, the sailors went up the Colombia River from
Astoria to San Francisco, California and from San Francisco, they picked up the combat
equipment of some Army soldiers because they had the holds in the ship to carry it
(00:04:59:00)
The ship Latigo served on was a troop transport named the U.S.S. Edgecombe, APA-164
(APA-Amphibious Personnel Assault), who’s primary mission was taking personnel from
one location to another (00:05:30:00)
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When they left San Francisco, the Edgecombe had soldiers aboard and the men sailed
them to New Guinea, where they dropped the troops off before continuing to the
Philippines (00:06:22:00)
o They eventually traveled all over the South Pacific (00:06:40:00)
Latigo’s job on the Edgecombe was working in the engine room, mainly maintaining the
evaporator that helped make fresh water out of the salt water so that the sailors could
have drinking water and water to shower in (00:06:48:00)
The location of the evaporator was next to location that received orders from the bridge
dictating the numbers of RPM the bridge wanted, which they transmitted through a series
of series of levers (00:07:15:00)
o Due to his location, Latigo’s other job was to write down the orders that came
from the bridge (00:07:39:00)
o There was no erasing, so Latigo had to write down what the order was and what
time the order was given and he had to be very careful (00:07:47:00)
Apart from those two primary jobs, he also had to help keep the engine room clean
because when the skipper came down for inspection, the room had to be clean
(00:08:09:00)
Does not recall the exact number of men in the engine room because there were different
turns to do a job, but he estimates the number to be around a hundred men in each turn
(00:08:30:00)
Okinawa (00:09:05:00)
The Edgecombe was involved with the invasion of Okinawa on April 1, 1945
(00:09:05:00)
o Latigo’s job during the landing was acting as a gunner on one of the boats that
landed the troops on the shore; if the boat came under attack, his job was to “fight
back” and he ended up firing one time while he was the gunner (00:09:17:00)
They landed troops several times and it was not only Latigo’s boat, but boats from
several other ships that helped land the troops (00:09:55:00)
o The boats would land the troops then return to the Edgecombe, reload with
soldiers, and take them to the beach (00:10:12:00)
o Because the Edgecombe was just far enough away from the beach to drop anchor
and be out of the way of enemy bombardment, it took around and hour and a half
to land all the troops on the Edgecombe (00:10:41:00)
Every time they landed troops, they would have to circle around waiting for the
Edgecombe to be ready before they could return and pick up another load of troops to
bring to the beach (00:11:00:00)
The troops would come down a rope ladder to get into Latigo’s boat and they would have
to circle around, waiting for the other transports to be ready to go to the beach
(00:11:07:00)
Initially, they did not come under attack but they witnessed quite a few dogfights
between U.S. and Japanese aircraft (00:11:30:00)
o However, they needed to be very careful because the Japanese would come onto
their ship and ask the officer-in-charge if it was such and such a ship
(00:11:42:00)
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o The men would reply that it was because the Japanese would throw grenades onto
the ships; this meant that the sailors had to be extra vigilant during the invasion as
to who exactly came onto their ship (00:12:01:00)
Only participated in the battle of Okinawa, although they did drop soldiers of in New
Guinea and the Philippines (00:12:22:00)
o They had an idea of what the purpose of the drop-offs were for, the eventual
invasion of Japan, but after the U.S. dropped the atomic bombs, they stopped
pushing for the invasion of Japan (00:12:47:00)
The Edgecombe was one of the first ships to take occupational troops to Japan,
specifically, the Northern Ansu region (00:13:08:00)
o After the war, Latigo ended up walking on Japanese soil, when the Edgecombe
landed the occupational troops (00:13:29:00)
They had one sailor pass away on the Edgecombe; they think the death was from overexhausting and they ended up giving the man a burial-at-sea (00:14:11:00)
o For the burial, the dead sailor was wrapped in a canvas bag which was sown up,
placed on a wooden slab, which had one end over the side of the ship and the
other end had the dead sailor covered in an American flag (00:14:39:00)
o The ship’s chaplain gave a service and when he gave the okay, the end of the slab
on the ship was raised and the body slid into the ocean (00:15:24:00)
They were constantly at sea and they only time that they were able to get off of the
Edgecombe was when they ship was in Pearl Harbor (00:15:45:00)
o They had fuel tankers that would come along side the Edgecombe, which would
take fuel on while staying at sea (00:16:13:00)
o At the time he was there, Pearl Harbor was still in shambles; it had not been
rebuilt (00:16:24:00)
They received the okay to come home in January, 1946 (00:16:45:00)
When they were in Okinawa, he was able to read Morse code transmitted by light from
ship to ship (00:17:07:00)
o He was not a signalman but Latigo was still able to read it and one time, while
still aboard ship at Okinawa, he was reading a message and he told his buddy that
the other ship had sent the message that Roosevelt had died (00:17:23:00)
o They had not heard anything about the death, but it was not long after that they
were informed that Roosevelt had indeed passed away (00:17:46:00)
Post-War (00:18:03:00)
After the war, they came home in January, 1946 (00:18:03:00)
o When they came home, they went to Portland, Oregon and on the way to
Portland, Latigo was informed that he could be discharged because he had
accumulated enough points (00:18:12:00)
o During that period, people were discharged from the military based on points,
which Latigo had enough of (00:18:28:00)
o Does not recall the amount of points needed for discharge, but remembers that
nineteen points was enough for him to be discharged (00:18:47:00)
Did not make any lasting friendships while in the Navy because to his knowledge, he was
the only man from Texas on the Edgecombe (00:19:08:00)
o One other man was from South Haven, Michigan (00:19:24:00)
�
A couple of years after the war, he reenlisted into the reserves, where he stayed for a
further five years (00:19:43:00)
Following his time in the service, Latigo went back to work at the gas station where he
had worked before the war; however, the owner was different, so Latigo did not care of
the job and he quit (00:20:11:00)
Then, he was on what was called a “fifty-two twenty”, meaning that the government was
giving the returning service men twenty dollars a week for fifty-two weeks (00:20:30:00)
o The money was not enough for him, so he got a job working at a refrigerator
factory in San Antonio, although he only made fifty cents an hour (00:20:45:00)
After the “fifty-two twenty” expired, Latigo’s uncle, who lived in Michigan and worked
at Ford, went on vacation and when he returned, he asked Latigo if he wanted to go as
well to see if he could get a job at Ford as well (00:21:13:00)
o Latigo did want to go and he did end up getting the job at Ford (00:21:33:00)
o He had a girlfriend that he left behind in San Antonio and he could not live
without her, so he quit Ford and went back to San Antonio (00:21:42:00)
o However, Latigo and the girlfriend broke up and he did not date after a while
(00:22:00:00)
Eventually, he met his future wife, a woman that he had known for all his life, when he
was sitting on the porch of his cousin’s house in San Antonio when she walked past
(00:22:12:00)
o Latigo’s cousin said that he would ask the woman out on a date and Latigo said
that he was going to ask her out on a date (00:22:27:00)
o He did ask her out on a date and they started dating (00:22:33:00)
When the two got married, they came to Michigan and they have lived in Michigan since
(00:22:39:00)
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Samuel Latigo was born in 1927 in San Antonio, Texas. Raised by his grandmother, he worked as a teen before enlisting in the Navy at the age of seventeen. Following training in San Diego, the Navy assigned him to the troop transport U.S.S. Edgecombe. The Edgecombe carried troops to New Guinea and the Philippines and participated in the invasion of Okinawa and the landing of occupation troops in Japan following the end of the war. Following the end of the war, the Edgecombe returned to the United States and the Navy discharged Latigo.
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Grand Valley State University Veterans History Project
Oral History Interview
Veteran: Kent Laudeman
Interviewed by James Smither
Transcribed by Chad Hitchcock
Interview length: 1:53:02
James: We're talking today with Kent Laudeman of Niles Michigan. The interviewer is James
Smither of the Grand Valley State University Veterans History Project. But if you can start us off
with some background on yourself, and to begin with where and when were you born.
Kent: I was born in 1943 in Bremen Indiana, it's about 25 miles south of South Bend.
James: Okay, and did you grow up there?
Kent: I grew up there until I went to college and then kind of left that particular area to Western
Michigan University.
James: Okay, what did your family do for a living when you were growing up there?
Kent: My dad was a farmer and I grew up on a farm, and my mother did some office work for
Monsanto .
James: Okay alright, and when did you finish high school?
Kent: In 1961?
�Grand Valley State University Veterans History Project
Oral History Interview
Veteran: Kent Laudeman
Interviewed by James Smither
Transcribed by Chad Hitchcock
James: Okay and then you went to Western Michigan University from there?
Kent: I went to Indiana Central College for two years and then transferred it up to Western
Michigan University and was there for a total of seven years. I avoided the draft for a long long
time.
James: It was that, that was the year you could still go with graduate school to keep you out?
Kent: It was 65 I mean I was I was doing a college deferment from 61 to 65.
James: Mm-hmm.
Kent: And then 65 to 68 three years of graduate work and continued that deferment.
James: Alright.
Kent: Till Uncle Sam caught on.
�Grand Valley State University Veterans History Project
Oral History Interview
Veteran: Kent Laudeman
Interviewed by James Smither
Transcribed by Chad Hitchcock
James: I guess my impression was that in a lot of cases the Graduate School deferment had
already gone away, or did you start early enough that?
[0:00 - 1:35]
Kent: Well the draft ended in 75 so I was still 66, 67, 68.
James: Yeah, but I think and I think and that my impression wasn't that figure yet that the
graduate school deferment had already gone away. You couldn't just hide in graduate school
necessarily.
Kent: No, I could until they caught up with me in 68 and didn't let me defer any more because I
wasn't married. I wasn't working at an okay situation.
James: So you managed to kind of get there under the radar?
Kent: Right.
James: Okay, so what were you studying in graduate school?
Kent: Undergraduate work was elementary education because I thought I wanted to be a
teacher and a principal, and then I got into counseling and Student Personnel Services.
�Grand Valley State University Veterans History Project
Oral History Interview
Veteran: Kent Laudeman
Interviewed by James Smither
Transcribed by Chad Hitchcock
James: Alright so what kind of impression or understandings did you have of the Vietnam War
while you were in college?
Kent: Well interesting that's probably why I pursued the deferment. Nobody in my family had
ever been in the service so I had no experience to fall back on and that wasn't really a pleasant
time with Kent State Jackson State and so forth is the culture was such that you were kind of for
or against it okay.
James: Alright yeah so it's all sort of kind of going on.
Kent: Yeah.
James: Alright so but then you eventually you get a notice.
Kent: I was drafted so I changed from one induction Center which was Indiana up to Michigan.
Deferred for a little bit more, got a delayed entry plan because I was writing a thesis for a
specialist degree at that particular time. That bought me another three months it got me into late
August and September.
�Grand Valley State University Veterans History Project
Oral History Interview
Veteran: Kent Laudeman
Interviewed by James Smither
Transcribed by Chad Hitchcock
James: But of what year?
Kent: Of 1968.
James: Okay alright, and so at this point are you going in as enlisted?
[1:34 - 3:27]
Kent: So I was drafted as enlisted. I had checked and thought maybe I could get into Social
Work or something like that with the counseling background, but the recruiters said no we really
don't need that kind of person. So, I was drafted got in did basic and advanced training at Fort
Dix New Jersey.
James: Okay.
Kent: 11 Bravo infantry.
James: Okay so you said go Fort Dix for basic what was that like, but what happened there.
Kent: Well I was lucky enough to be put in a company and a platoon that had mostly college
students in it.
�Grand Valley State University Veterans History Project
Oral History Interview
Veteran: Kent Laudeman
Interviewed by James Smither
Transcribed by Chad Hitchcock
James: mm-hmm
Kent: Which was just exceptional. I mean they kind of said we were all loafing, but when it came
time to take the APFT the physical fitness test we always came through. We we knew when we
had to show up as were about it. Otherwise okay, we were playing the game and going through
all of the drill and and everything like that and being a good soldier. Okay but but not being
overly good as far as a soldier is concerned.
James: Okay what impression did you have of the drill instructors? Or did you know anything
about what their backgrounds were?
Kent: Smoky hats were pretty much pushers. NCO’s, good physical shape, gun ho. I mean what
we pretty much experienced I think given my fireman background discipline hard work and so
forth. It didn't hit me in terms of the discipline and regimentation like it did some college
graduates.
James: Okay so you adapted to army life relatively easy.
Kent: Right.
�Grand Valley State University Veterans History Project
Oral History Interview
Veteran: Kent Laudeman
Interviewed by James Smither
Transcribed by Chad Hitchcock
James: Okay now did some of the other guys you were with have a lot more trouble?
Kent: Oh yes.
James: What kinds of things went on with them?
[3:28 - 5:15]
Kent: Some of it was just the pressure and the stress of the constant pushing encouragement to
do better, excel be all you can be when they kind of knew what they could be. And because they
were drafted didn't want to be maybe and we're just there because they were drafted. Okay and
pushing through the two years or the three years whatever they had been required to sign up
for.
James: But were they basically accepting of their fate on some level and “Okay I'm-”
Kent: Pretty much so.
James: “-gonna get through it.”
Kent: Pretty much so yes.
�Grand Valley State University Veterans History Project
Oral History Interview
Veteran: Kent Laudeman
Interviewed by James Smither
Transcribed by Chad Hitchcock
James: Alright how long did basic last?
Kent: Ooh... Eight weeks and then another eight weeks for advanced infantry training.
James: Okay now to what extent was the advanced training geared toward Vietnam?
Kent: It's always lingering in the back of your mind. I mean this is the height from 65 to 75 so 68
late 68 69 that was there the NCOs had pushed us said, “you know if you don't do well you're
gonna probably end up there.” So you know they used it in a motivating kind of way but really
none of the training for basic RIT other was standard training. I mean it was not in preparation
for Vietnam it was standard training.
James: Alright so you could go anywhere essentially?
Kent: Go anywhere.
James: Okay that was another eight weeks?
�Grand Valley State University Veterans History Project
Oral History Interview
Veteran: Kent Laudeman
Interviewed by James Smither
Transcribed by Chad Hitchcock
Kent: So I finished the AIT and then you get sent on for MOS training in a particular school, they
sent me to Fort Gordon, Georgia to be an auto den person, which is typist and message
trafficking and so forth. And so I went down there and that happened to be also where social
workers in the army went. There were gonna be officers so I scampered over there then gently
inquired and said, “You know what's the chances of getting transferred out of auto den training
to being in Social Work given my particular background,” and nobody would listen to me, but in
basic I put all the paperwork in for a correct Commission.
James: Okay.
[5:16 - 7:34]
Kent: And that came through once I got I finished auto den training.
James: So what did auto den training consist of.
Kent: Basically teletype that kind of messaging. Okay ticker tape cards if you think about what
we were doing in terms of Technology and communication at that particular time.
James: Computer cards?
�Grand Valley State University Veterans History Project
Oral History Interview
Veteran: Kent Laudeman
Interviewed by James Smither
Transcribed by Chad Hitchcock
Kent: Computer cards. So you know sometimes maybe when you went through registration you
got a stack of cards, well that's similar to what was happening as far as auto den training was
concerned.
James: Okay all right, but then okay so at this point it's possible then for someone like yourself
who's got a college degree or some kind of specialized background to receive a direct
Commission to do for certain kinds of jobs?
Kent: I put everything in okay, now whether I would get it or not, I don't know. My wife was
expecting our first son at that time she was back in Bremen with my parents. So, after I finished
auto den school I was put into a holding company and was put in charge of a platoon, as far as
that company is concerned, so was just kind of doing general-
James: Right.
Kent: -NCO specialists kinds of duties and so forth.
James: Alright, but then the Commission actually does come through.
�Grand Valley State University Veterans History Project
Oral History Interview
Veteran: Kent Laudeman
Interviewed by James Smither
Transcribed by Chad Hitchcock
Kent: So, at the end of June I was commissioned a second lieutenant in the adjutant-general
corps.
James: Alright and so now what happens to you?
Kent: And now I got sent to Fort Ben Harrison for a basic officer training, and went through that
program by that time I had almost a year of enlisted training.
James: Mm-hmm
Kent: So I was in pretty good shape for that physically speaking. Mentally speaking training as
far as first aid CPR all of that kind of good stuff-
James: Okay.
[7:35 - 9:34]
Kent: -that you generally get in officer basic school.
James: Okay I guess one usually thinks of Officer Basic as being in places like Fort Benning
and and so forth. Harrison's like a finance Institute.
�Grand Valley State University Veterans History Project
Oral History Interview
Veteran: Kent Laudeman
Interviewed by James Smither
Transcribed by Chad Hitchcock
Kent: So the adjutant general school is there and finance was there.
James: Okay. So, do you think you've got a somewhat less physically intense officer training
than you would get if you were doing infantry or anything?
Kent: Why... I think it was probably more akin to my background and therefore felt more
comfortable with it. I don't- I'm not really a combat person as we'll see and got into Civil Affairs.
So to me, it was like going back to school yeah I mean-
James: Great.
Kent: -I enjoyed it. You were in the barracks, you had a room by yourself, you were treated like
a junior officer, I enjoyed it. I could have stayed there for the same time I spent in college.
James: Alright, and what were you actually learning there.
Kent: Doing different kinds of things that person. Pretty much adjutant-general kind of stuff
which would be paperwork, which would be awards, which would be personnel actions, things of
that nature from an administrative perspective. So that was very comfortable
�Grand Valley State University Veterans History Project
Oral History Interview
Veteran: Kent Laudeman
Interviewed by James Smither
Transcribed by Chad Hitchcock
James: Okay so this is specifically officer training for adjutants.
Kent: You still had weapons qualification and some general training-
James: Mm-hmm
Kent: -but that was just kind of redundant and repetitive of what I had earlier as an enlisted
person.
James: Right. Okay, and how long were you there.
Kent: Ooh... Probably about 12 weeks, and from there I went to be a second lieutenant at the
Athey station in Little Rock Arkansas, and that's the Armed Forces entrance and induction
station.
James: Okay.
[9:35 - 11:16]
Kent: So now I got to see where I came through in Detroit and what got me there. And I was the
psychological examiner at the Athey station in Little Rock Arkansas.
�Grand Valley State University Veterans History Project
Oral History Interview
Veteran: Kent Laudeman
Interviewed by James Smither
Transcribed by Chad Hitchcock
James: Alright so what does that job actually consist of?
Kent: So anybody that was being drafted or was being that that was volunteering came through
the Armed Forces entrance and examination station. And part of that was the ASFA, the battery
in terms of aptitude and maybe the identification of what was going to be best for you in a draft
kind of way. Or, if you were enlisted you were kind of talked into a particular MOS, so we did the
aptitude part of that, and if somebody was struggling with that then I had to do a reading test
and interview and determine whether the person was fit or not for it as far as being drafted or
volunteering for the service.
James: Alright and how long were you there?
Kent: I was there almost a year?
James: Okay, now did you like that job or…?
Kent: I did like that job, and we were the little of the Little Rock Air Force Station. Which was
outside of town. I ran and I knew the dictionary of Occupational titles as far as titles were
concerned. But, one of the fellows that I didn't approve for being a volunteer was somebody that
came out of the Ozarks and could not read and desperately wanted to be in. So, we went
�Grand Valley State University Veterans History Project
Oral History Interview
Veteran: Kent Laudeman
Interviewed by James Smither
Transcribed by Chad Hitchcock
through that his occupation was really chicken catcher. So he at night would go in and take the
chickens off the roost put him into the cage and some of those 18 wheelers you saw with
multiple chicken cages was indeed he was doing that, that was in the dictionary of Occupational
titles. And I said “I just can't let you join the service because your lack of reading skills and what
the service was looking for and so forth,’ and at that time there was a marine captain who had
recruited this particular individual and he locked my heels at the door one day and said, “You
know how dare you lieutenant not accept my recruit,” and I stood by it I still said, “You know this
was not doing the individual any good and was not gonna do this service any good and so
forth.” That led to when I left my first Arcom medal at that particular place so I had a good group
of couple college students who were working with me as far as the testing is concerned. The
interviewing is concerned, and everything like that. I enjoyed it because it kind of tied in some of
my counseling my assessment kind of things that I had learned while I was in graduate school
and so forth I would have stayed there.
James: Alright so what did you get to do next.
Kent: Well then I got sent to Vietnam okay, and therefore I went down to Fort Polk for RVN
training for about a week.
[11:17 - 14:27]
[Unintelligible]
�Grand Valley State University Veterans History Project
Oral History Interview
Veteran: Kent Laudeman
Interviewed by James Smither
Transcribed by Chad Hitchcock
Kent: Excuse me?
James: What did that consist of?
Kent: Well that consisted of more what you could expect to find as far as being in Vietnam and
that would be things like booby traps, watching for booby traps, living in a jungle kind of
situation, and so forth. What's a triple canopy like it's also Louisiana probably hot humid fit that
particular scenario best and that's where the RVN training was at.
James: Did they try to teach you anything about the culture the place or the people or
anything and..
Kent: They don't remember anything about culture to tell you the truth.
James: Because they trained the combat infantry or a lot of it geared toward that.
Kent: So that was definitely military oriented squad work self-defense, Unit defense, unit
aggression, and so forth. Okay, it's strictly military in this case.
�Grand Valley State University Veterans History Project
Oral History Interview
Veteran: Kent Laudeman
Interviewed by James Smither
Transcribed by Chad Hitchcock
James: Did they march you out into a swamp or field someplace?
Kent: You know we were waiver lieutenants going through that particular training so yeah, we
went out as a unit. But, nothing like basic training and AIT for another person so forth.
James: Alright, now is it on to Vietnam from there?
Kent: On to Vietnam for a year. Arrived in August and left in June arrived in August of 70 and
left in June of 71.
James: Okay, how did they get them out to Vietnam?
Kent: Well you know, I was an individual replacement so I didn't go as a part of the unit.
James: Right.
Kent: …. That’s a good question, I don't remember all together a little bit... a long flight.
James: Most people had to report to someplace on the West coast some, one Depot or another.
[14:28 - 16:04]
�Grand Valley State University Veterans History Project
Oral History Interview
Veteran: Kent Laudeman
Interviewed by James Smither
Transcribed by Chad Hitchcock
Kent: I went out of the East Coast came into Tan Son Nhut and Long Binh. Long Binh was the
fabricated metal roof shelters that everybody came in to etc. and went through a brief orientation
there, but no training. And then went from there to the 1st Signal Brigade which was actually
located in the Saigon itself.
James: So actually in the city as opposed to...
Kent: In the city.
James: Alright, what kind of facility or compounded did you have?
Kent: It was in a compound, walled compound, right in the middle of things. We did have a high
walled fence that went around it and a set of buildings inside. We ate our meals outside,
probably about 150 200 yards, because it served not only that compound but a couple other
compounds in that area. I remember it being on a major roadway between Tan Son Nhut and
Cholon PX. Why do I remember that? Because it went by the fish market, okay, which had that
very distinct kind of smell to it that I'll remember to this day.
James: And Cholon it's a neighborhood in Saigon proper?
�Grand Valley State University Veterans History Project
Oral History Interview
Veteran: Kent Laudeman
Interviewed by James Smither
Transcribed by Chad Hitchcock
Kent: It it's as you go towards downtown Saigon, right downtown Saigon okay.
James: Alright now what did your duties consist of there?
Kent: Adjutant, so basically I was doing awards, assignments, the support. I was in charge of
the hiring of our Vietnamese that worked within the compound papasans mamasans and so
forth.
James: Alright, now what did they give you. Any kind of orientation or training for that, or did
they just say here you go.
Kent: I did have a major that I reported to so he was my training and kind of a mentor in this
case. Commander was a colonel 1st Signal Brigade in this case had the billboard antennas
scattered throughout the country, and did the long haul communication from country outside of
country or outside of country inside.
James: Now, did you have experience enlisted men working under you who knew what they
were doing?
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Kent: I had enlisted in the assignment section and in the awards section on the same building
and I had a Chief Warrant Officer 3 that was in the personnel assignment that reported to me
and the major at the same time.
James: Alright, and what kind of living quarters did you have?
Kent: We lived in what I call it not a barracks. It was a two-story building standard kind of what
you might find in the Saigon area. I remember the first couple of nights there they gave me a
mosquito netting which was terribly hot. And then sometime later I got an individual room that
had an overhead fan and while that was great because it kept the mosquitoes off you and gave
a little bit of air movement so my quarters were pretty good. There was an officer's room where
you could go in the evening and there was an NCO club we didn't go to but the NCOs could go
to. Wasn't a whole lot to do within the compound other than work. I mean at best you maybe
had a half day off during the week to get your laundry done or something of that nature. The
best trips were outside of their to Tan Son Nhut for a breakfast on a Sunday morning or
something like that and probably had the best Western omelet that I could think of at an Air
Force mess.
James: Alright, and would you go into Saigon proper much?.
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Kent: I had to go to the Cholon PX to pick up the piastre to pay for the mamasan's the papasans
and so forth. So once a week I was going down there.
James: Where were you allowed or able to go to restaurants or other things like that?
Kent: I did some of that I signed up for a Vietnamese class but I didn't have the time to pursue it
beyond that picked up a few things I had to go along with that and outside the compound yeah
there were some restaurants where you could get a Vietnamese kind of meal and go from there
I did make some trip into VungTau and other areas because we had small detachments that
supported the billboards that were located in the different provinces but I didn't get up to I Corps
didn't get up to second Corps did get down to the Delta a couple times.
James: okay and when you did travel around how did you travel.
Kent: Basically by Jeep except I made a pay run was in a lush two seater low flying craft we
skimmed over the treetops etc.
James: Alright did you have a sense that it was relatively safe to drive around the areas that you
were in.
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Kent: Pretty safe because I was always out during the daytime never out during the nighttime
we could hear the bombs being dropped as far as the b-52s were concerned I mean yeah the
windows would rattle a little bit etc. but I mean other than somebody's shooting over the wall or
through the razor wire felt pretty secure in terms of where we're at so I was very fortunate.
James: Okay now did you have were there rules about sort of where you could go and not go in
Saigon or what kinds of things you could do or not do?
Kent: Safety was always emphasized always going out with another person at that time we had
the Jeeps with the open doors nothing like what we had in Saudi Arabia or anything like that
traffic was always an issue bicycles cyclos and so forth so you had to be careful in that sense
there were the opportunist that would kind of fake an accident if you weren't careful which then
brought the MPS and an investigation and some things like that so you always traveled with
somebody else as far as the vehicle is concerned okay.
James: Mm-hmm, alright. And we're there because the amount of the enlisted were there issues
involving things like drug use or.
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Kent: I didn't notice it that much and I don't think I noticed that that much among the combat
troops but certainly in the support sectors were people who were behind in a safe area bored
and being rampant heat being high and everything like that is where I saw some of the drugs
begin to make their encroachment in terms of soldier boredom and so forth. We were pretty
much a male organization at that particular time so didn't see some of the things that we
encountered as far as Desert Storm is concerned okay.
James: But there would have been prostitution and so forth.
Kent: Yeah-
James: -in the city and that kind of thing.
Kent: Yes, right outside the gate to the compound.
James: Now was your compound sort of just for a single brigade or…?
Kent: Just for the First Signal Brigade.
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James: Okay and so you may have had a little bit more select group than you'd have in some of
the bigger bases or…?
Kent: I think probably so certainly as far as Long Binh was huge.
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James: Okay alright. Now, did you have any kind of sense from where you were about how the
larger world was going? I mean were we successful as far as you could tell?
Kent: Well we didn't have access to CNN or anything like that that we had in Desert Storm. I
mean it's pretty much mail communication that we had at that particular time. I don't even
remember calling home when I was in Saigon and Vietnam.
James: But there were- but I guess from where you were there might be people who actually
have some idea what was actually happening in the war at the top?
Kent: Stars and Stripes was the primary means of communication.
James: Okay and you would have been there I guess when the Cambodian incursion was going
on?
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Kent: 70, 71, so that was after Tet Offensive. Yes 68.
James: But Cambodia was set was mid nineteen seventy so.
Kent: Yeah.
James: I mean if there after that had happened.
Kent: The Ho Chi Minh Trail one, never knew where that went. Yeah, I mean it was supposed to
be in Vietnam but no it crossed the border and got in Laos got into Cambodia etc. So we heard
those kinds of stories but really didn't see anything in print.
James: Because I guess that was the big news item of 1970 was American and South
Vietnamese actually going into Cambodia to try to chase out the North Vietnamese bases. But,
so basically that kind of stuff news from the fighting or whatever was not really-
Kent: Other than what you picked up to the Stars and Stripes or something like that.
James: -Circulated where you were. Alright.
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Kent: Well we were yeah we were aware of the body count, I mean Vietnam was the body count
was in terms of success okay. So yes aware of that particular measurement as far as success
lack of success so forth.
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James: And then did you have any- this is also a period of Vietnamization that is the Americans
were trying to kind of turn more to let South Vietnamese, and did that- was that anything that
you noticed?
Kent: My awareness where the montagnards were terribly helpful to us in terms of the higher
elevations etc. Certainly up in I Corps and II Corps. Vietnamization we're- we're aware of the
politics that was help happening as far as the Saigon government is concerned sometimes
successful sometimes not successful, I think we can say the same thing that's- that's happening
in Afghanistan right now. I mean depending on who you talk to what successful was working
well and you could talk to somebody a day later and say, “you know motivation was slow
couldn't depend on it,” in spite of what we were doing in terms of training and everything like
that.
James: Mm-hmm. Did you have any sense that that sooner or later this whole thing was gonna
go bust, or did you think that situation would kind of go on indefinitely?
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Kent: I think most of those who went to Vietnam felt that we went there with a purpose. We
didn't go to Canada or anything like that, we were ordered to go there went there with the intent
of doing the best job that we could possibly do, and felt certainly as you interacted with the
Vietnamese the papasans the mamasans and so forth okay that we were there protecting the
people in terms of North Vietnam and so forth. I mean the black pajamas yeah, we were familiar
with that, we didn't really encounter that we're aware that some of that was going on and so
forth okay. My Lai was not prominent I really learned about My Lai when I came back then- then
when I was there.
James: Alright so basically for you it was simply an assignment you were in the army. You went
there, you did your job, you put in your- you do a full 12 months there?
Kent: Did a full 12 months.
James: Alright did you get an R&R at any point while you were there?
Kent: I had an R&R; but didn't have my wife come over. I went to Australia and actually took a
train up to the Blue Mountains. Stayed with a family, saw Sydney. So it was positive for me
okay.
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James: Totally different experience for a while.
Kent: Yes.
James: Alright so now when you come back then from Vietnam…
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Kent: Then I experienced the culture in terms of what's going on back here and so forth. Literally
said, “I wanted nothing to do with this,” had my opportunity to go from a first lieutenant to a
captain. No, the culture was such was negative, not supportive. Higher education certainly
wasn't supportive of it okay. Came back and got a job with Indiana University at South Bend in
71.
James: So did you leave the military entirely?
Kent: I left it entirely.
James: Okay.
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Kent: Hung my- hung my uniform up. I mean I had the experience coming back through
Oakland and that's what it really began to hit me.
James: So what did you see there? What happens when you get back? Did you land at the
military base and then go to the airport or…?
Kent: So I was- came, landed in Oakland. Was put in a very small room. I just remember is
almost the size of a closet, and you gonna be wondering, you know, when you've got to leave
this place. It was not the place to leave at that particular time because of the culture the anger
and everything like that. So, I just stayed at Oakland base until I caught a plane. I caught a
plane back came through Chicago. I ended up in in Traverse City because that's where my wife
was with her mother and father at that particular time. She moved from Bremen Indiana up to
that area. I was terribly tanned, terribly dark had a mustache. If you would have hung a number
on the front of me you know, you would have guessed I was a criminal someplace.
James: Alright now were you in civilian clothes at this point?
Kent: I was in civilian clothes and I remember looking at my son and he broke out crying
because he didn't know who the hell this stranger was etc. Okay, so that kind of added to my
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feelings of kind of alienation and discomfort I guess, and coming back and deciding, “I didn't
want to have anything to do with the military.”
James: Alright so then you said you took a job?
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Kent: IU South Bend with the Division of Education because I had that educational kind of
background. Alton ruff, the director of the division of education at that time, came from my
particular area. It was kind of the networking that got me started there I absolutely loved it. I
think I made $12,000 a year, realized it was gonna be difficult to support a family of two at that
particular time, and said okay. About a year later I need to look at a second job and look at a
USAR Center or I could go back in as an instructor at Kingsbury Indiana near the Laporte. So,
about a year later, I did get back in as a USAR Instructor for Kingsbury.
James: They are on reserve?
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Kent: Yep.
James: Alright.
Kent: So, we got back into the reserves for economical purposes and I was doing again
something that I enjoyed doing something was teaching.
James: Alright now was this a job switch or just a second job added on?
Kent: Well kind of instructor, kind of like adjutant-general working with people.
James: Was that a full-time job though I guess?
Kent: No that was an army reserve, because my full-time job was with IU South Bend.
James: Okay, so you still had it so you’ll be here while you're reservist, like the other ones. It's
sort of the weekend a version of the weekend work other thing.
Kent: Yep. Stayed there for one year and then heard about the Civil Affairs Unit in Kalamazoo
Michigan and made the transfer.
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James: Alright, now explain a little bit what that particular unit is.
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Kent: Civil Affairs is, if you remember World War two, they provided the liaison the connecting
link with the military with the government with finance with education etc. I mean they were the
link between the military and we now call it host nation okay. So I saw a health team, I saw a
law enforcement team, I saw an education team, I saw an economics kind of team. I said,
“wow,” and about 40% were officers that particular company was commanded by a lieutenant
colonel so there was about 42% officers, senior enlisted and even the senior listed were well
educated and semi-professional professional people so, I saw a networking opportunity. I just
absolutely loved the unit okay. I mean I could see a veterinarian if the- if our dog was having a
problem. I can go talk to the captain. I can talk to the commander, excuse me, the- the director
of police forces in Western Michigan (okay) at Kalamazoo. I mean this was a neat unit okay. So
I loved it and worked myself up to in 90. In 90 I became the company commander and served
my three years there and I remember in November going down and now I have to look for
another position because I had homesteaded there for a long time okay. Where most people
move around from one unit to another unit to advance more quickly and everything like that. So
I managed to stay there through a number of different positions. Finally had to leave and heard
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about the 21st TACOM, TACOM down in Indianapolis Indiana and they were aligned with a 21st
in Germany at Kaiserslautern. So their annual training would be to fall in in Germany. Whoa
said, “this is a great chance to travel and everything like that,” okay. For two years event two
summers two weeks of annual training in the summer and so forth. So I became their director
assistant chief of staff for host nation support the21st TACOM. I went in and interviewed in
November just a little bit before Thanksgiving and I remember on December 2nd or something
like that they gave me a call. I was sitting at my desk at IU South Bend and they said, “oh by the
way what is your interest in getting into the unit because we're going to be mobilized for the Gulf
War.” I said, “well I interviewed I said I was interested if you get mobilized I will go with the unit,”
and I did on December 4th. They were mobilized in 1990.
James: Ok I just want to back up a little bit. When you were talking about being with a civil
affairs unit I think you were mentioning dates in the 90’s. So you would have met dates in the
eighties or 70’s so when I got back in 70.
Kent: So 72 to 90 I was in the field civil affairs company.
James: Ok now during the time when you were with the civil affairs company did they ever send
you any place, or did you do training in any place?
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Kent: That's an interesting question. Yes, I think our first training was to an Indian Reservation
in northern Michigan and we were staying in a school that was our housing facility. And then
working on the reservation and doing different things with Indians. I mean it could be a
construction kind of thing. It could be a- an educational kind of thing and so forth and absolutely
loved it again ok. I mean how can you go wrong with something like this. Now, also during that
time the 315th SIL Affairs company was aligned to support reforger kinds of activities and
events return of forces to Germany and during that time. Even before I got into the taycom I had
spent two weeks of annual training in Belgium and the Netherlands and in Germany which then
supported my going with the taycom which was also totally co-located with the unit and
Kaiserslautern so again thoroughly. I mean how can you get better two weeks of training. So
when I was working at IUSB I was either traveling for weekend training to Kalamazoo and when
I changed to Indianapolis I just went south the other direction and was still doing a similar kind
of thing in terms of civil affairs work.
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James: Right okay, but basically during this, that extended period, you're just never mobilized or
anything like that because they didn't have any actual Wars going on.
Kent: That's right.
James: At that particular point but then…?
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Kent: But during the Gulf War I met some of my peers out of the 315th that were mobilized, and
over in Gulf War. In fact I ran across them in Kuwait City because they were brought in via
another route and I was then working with a 21st taycom, and Nicholas Batch Lieutenant
Colonel Nicholas Batch it was a law professor at Western Michigan. A great friend of mine that I
stayed in contact with, and I met him over at the airport in Kuwait because he was there with the
415 not to 315 415 civil affairs company.
James: Alright just back around your story here. So essentially, so you join your new unit and
“oh by the way we're being mobilized.” So it's the end of 1990 and find that out okay. I kind of
pick up the story then from there so…
Kent: So we were mobilized on the 4th of December. Spent two weeks of training at home
station again Went through weapons qualification,, got a well started personnel records were
updated Did our CPR first aid training, got equipment issued to you, n-b-c equipment. Got all the
training as far as masking and everything like that. so that you were prepared for that. We didn't
take a lot of equipment with us other than personal equipment okay, and we were in- had an
advance party go over two weeks in advance of Christmas and we basically arrived about a day
before Christmas, the 25th of December.
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James: Alright and how do they get you out there?
Kent: We went from there to Ohio, from Ohio and out to Fort Dix, the East Coast East Coast up
through Iceland, dropped in to Spain, and from Spain then into Saudi Arabia.
James: Okay.
Kent: I see 130.
James: Alright, so military alright, and then what's your first impression then of Saudi Arabia
when you get there?
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Kent: Hot. We landed at night at Dharan air base, which is probably about 15 kilometers from
where the 21st TACOM was working out of at that particular time. We were put- they had some
makeshift accommodations. Actually, they had brought in some trailers so they had- they had
five lieutenant colonels in one trailer and there was a restroom in the middle and three on one in
and two of the other and I said, “ well this is kind of crowded on this and I wonder why there's
three of us here and as vs 2 there.” Well I found out the day after Christmas that I was going to
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go full.. So you know I was kind of the excess person with all the other Lieutenant Colonels on
that end of the trailer. After that, the trailer was traded for Khobar towers. Which is a high-rise
complex that most of the unit went into after that, and then they started putting some Kuwaiti
refugees into the trailer complex that we had so, I didn't have bad accommodations again I
wasn't living in a tent okay.
James: So were you there when the Iraqis were launching Scud missiles?
Kent: So by that time I was up at KKMC: King Khalid Military City, off of what we call Tapline
Road that kind of ran from east to west also known as MSR main supply route Dodge. It was the
road that was used to really build King Khalid Military City. King Khalid is an interesting complex
and it sits right out in the middle of the desert about 40 klicks south of Hafra-bat, which was the
main city in that particular area. Now the US engineers have the ingenuity starting in about
1974, the Saudi started looking to develop some military complexes and King Khalad Military
City was one of three, the other one was in Tabuk which is toward Jordan in the north western
part of Saudi Arabia, and one was way down south and then this one KKMC, King Khalid
Military City. King Khalid Military City had the second largest cement plant in the world. It's in the
shape of a hexagon, an elaborate structure, that was designed to support at least a brigade
from the Saudis. Actually, some would say it would hold up to three brigades. In the shape of a
hexagon underground parking, okay, had actually a hotel complex that was about four stories
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stories high and we were in some barracks that were four to five stories high and much like a
college dorm and we had three of us to a room again. It was in the shape of figure eight, little
courtyards in the middle of that, and several of those. So the Saudi army was in that until we
deployed and they went to the field because now in August, when the Iraqis invaded Kuwait,
that now brought a brigade from Tabuk and a brigade from down south to be on the front line
with Iraq at that time. And it also took the brigade out of KKMC and put ‘em on the front line so
the barracks was empty, and that's how we managed to get in there on the day after Christmas.
James: And now what- what is your unit expecting to do?
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Kent: So we’re the liaison okay. I was assistant chief of staff northern province for host nation
support. So I would liaison with General Pagones, who was the commander, then the 22nd
Support Command we went from the 21st to the 22nd in country. Okay he was a two-star in
charge of that he was promoted to a three-star Lieutenant General by Schwarzkopf January so
that he could compete and work with the two corps commanders, which was the 18thAairborne
and the 7th Corps. So by that by the time that we got there in December pretty much the 18th
Airborne was in and he was on the verge of being promoted at that particular time. The air war
started what January 16th and we were in the midst of moving the 7th Corps and at that point,
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ok, and his main headquarters was out of Dahran. The major port was Demam, an excellent
deepwater port etc. and General Pagones said, “you know I was there a couple of weeks after
Iraq invaded on the 2nd of August,” and he told the story of operating out of the back end of a
car ready. Actually cash in his trunk, because he had about seven guys working with him, and
they brought the 18th airborne in before they brought the support. So he was well behind the
power curve in terms of support, so I was his forward up at KKMC for a host nation support. The
main was still back at Dahran and I went up there with myself and two other people. We
eventually had some more civil affairs support from the 304th. See, a group and my cell got up
to 17 people in working all host nation issue. So what's the host nation issue? Well if you want
to come up with a logistics base in the desert you had to ask for that land you just getting
couldn't go out and start parking there and start developing your support base. So we got into all
kinds of things firing ranges, log bases, Concord support centers. Actually using the main supply
routes etc. and back to KKMC. KKMC is about 18 square miles had its own airport brigade-size
well-developed was called the Emerald City because it had a fountain right in the center of it
okay. Had a hotel there, had five Mosques there, had three swimming pools there, and had
eight wells. Now the well our engineers could go down 200 feet and tap a well. The well at
KKMC was 2,000 feet deep huge, about eight inch diameter et cetera. So that's where the water
came from to support the 18th Airborne Corps the 7th Corps et cetera it was the logistics hub
with log base Bravo at KKMC.
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James: Now did you have Saudi counterparts to go?
Kent: Yes, oh yes. Two-star General Al-Kemy. General Al-Kemy was the commander one star
brigadier-general Shaheri was the operations guy one star Abdul Momen was the cut of the s-1
equivalent so we had the s3 the s4 the commander and the s-1 that was my liaison.
James: Alright, and what were these people like to work with?
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Kent: Great, and most have been to school in the u.s. Most spoke English, but all of our
requests for host nations. Host nation support we did about 600 during the period of time that
were- though had to be written in Arabic okay. So, we got the request in English we converted it
to Arabic that was then converted it's submitted to the liaison it then went from alchemy to Abdu
Momen and somebody that had to approve it came back to us in Arabic we then transfer
transferred it into English and then got back to the unit that was making the request so there's a
story there when we first went we had access to a linguist from Special Forces it was there that
lasted about two weeks then I got a good captain that could speak and write Arabic from the
304th civil affairs group that lasted about two weeks and Pagones says Laudeman I need this
captain because he needs to write with the Egyptian Het-Battalion and a Het-Battalion is
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something can transport an m1 tank from the port up and that was the pressure so to make sure
that that head got down to the port one day run picked up made another run back another day
and then was down for maintenance we put with it captain from the 304th C.A group that was a
linguist that could work with the Egyptians to make sure that that happens so there went my
linguist again okay now I got into a situation where I heard about sergeant Morris Kent Morris he
was a sergeant e5 he was working with a transportation company and the company needed a
four-wheel Jeep Cherokee that I had access to and I needed a linguist so it's probably the best
trade I ever made in my life I got the linguist we started submitting requests to the Saudis again
all right the things you get in to a host nation and support okay.
James: Did you get to keep this one?
Kent: I kept them and we actually put him one of their signs because I had managed to then hire
a third country national from the Sudan that we got cleared and I could put in the office to do the
translation and conversion from the English to the Arabic and submission than the Arabic back
to the English again.
James: Alright, now did the- did you have any problems with the Saudis or were they generally
helpful?
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Kent: Saudis Ramadan started during this period of time Ramadan is one month of basically
fasting from daylight to sundown and that created some problems for us and because the
Saudis generally would then would spend the evenings with their families and festivities and of
course they got hungry they got a little bit disenchanted during the daytime etc okay were not as
easy to work with their Sunday was technically on Friday so we had to work around that they
also had the five prayer periods during the day we had to work around that we couldn't go over
and talk to our counterparts during that particular time or if we do we do well enough to cool our
heels in the office for a period of time because they went to the prayer session etc . so yeah
there were some some adjustments we had to make one of my favorite sayings was inshallah
God willing so Jonas had a stand up brief in the morning about thirty minutes where all that just
an assistant Chiefs of Staff would indicate what they're working on for the particular day what
the problems were that they saw and so forth very quick he sat down the rest of the stood up
half-hour meeting in the morning and then we had a major sit down during the evening about an
hour and a half PowerPoint slides out the wazoo I had my own and many times during that
briefing I'd say inshallah God willing we will get an answer back and be able to help you out in
terms of what the request was and so forth.
James: Alright but I guess the Saudis as far as you could tell right so happy to have us there
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Kent: they were happy to have us on their time frame though not necessarily the army
timeframe the army timeframe wanted it done right away so one of those was one of the stories
was General Pargonas says Laudeman I heard that the Saudis had some trucks for us that we
might be able to use because we were short of transportation assets and one of my stories the
letters of the that I sent to you was yeah he heard about that so I said a Lottermen I want you to
go over and check with the general Sharia and I hear there's some trucks that might be
available to help us out because we were short I mean we had the Egyptian Ha-Battalion then
we sent the linguist with to make sure that they were working in a regular kind of way getting all
the tanks and tracks up and everything like that so I said sir follow up on it so I went over the
next day I talked to general shahuri and he says yeah I got some trucks throughout the desert
for you and he wrote me out an order he put it in the envelope and put a wax seal on it okay so
I couldn't see what it was in it was in Arabic anyhow he did that on the morning so that day we
left and headed to the desert I took Kent Morris with me he was my linguist and we thought we
knew where we were going we’re gonna go about 20 klicks this way turn left go another clicks
20 klicks see beside the road there was this tire that was in the sand at that point we were
supposed to turn right and go another couple clicks well we did that to the best of our
knowledge we came upon a Syrian camp interesting the Syrians were some of the support
forces that were part of the coalition forces there and we asked about a truck parked in the
desert we were told there's 800 trucks here well you would think that you could be able to see
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that you know the desert was flat except for a curb down you lost sight of it okay we didn't think
it'd be that hard so the Syrians said you know go couple clicks this way and and see if you can I
think it's located there I think we ran across or something well we went two clicks and there was
an Egyptian unit there because there were Egyptian forces there too helping us out okay they
said well no we think it's over this way about to more Clicks so we went a couple more clicks
finally we ran into a compound and we were looking for a Colonel Nasser at that time now
Colonel Nasser is like Colonel Bob I mean the names you know they never used last name they
used first name so Colonel Nasser we went through barbed wire Concertina and there was a
single building sitting there probably about a 10 feet by 10 feet and with a couple of vehicles
parked outside and Constantine around the outside and there was a guard so he let us in we
parked and we went in we went to the basement here's Colonel Nasser he was watching TV
and happened to be a cartoon now there are two channels a religious channel and a cartoon
channel but he was watching the cartoon channel at that particular time he took the envelope
and gave us some shy some green coffee okay or tea had to start out with that first looked at it
and he called the captain of Gandhi and said picked it up on his phone and said captain Gandhi
come up here I want you to meet a couple of guys he came up there in about 20 minutes had
some more tea okay Galla, Shy and so forth and he says I'm gonna take you to the truck park
so we went another three kilometers into the desert and we saw some tanker trucks first and
said we're getting close and beyond the tanker trucks there was this big high burn that they had
wall dirt up around common defensive kind of perimeter etc and inside he took us in there and
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sure enough there was this truck farm okay so we struck a deal to get 490 trucks some were we
were really looking for 18-wheelers flatbeds.
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Kent: to haul heavy equipment we got about 90 of those with sides about another 90 with
outsides and another a hundred and eighty or so which were straight trucks they were actually
called circus trucks because they were painted all different colors and had sides all around and
said okay we'll take the 480 trucks and he said oh by the way a hundred eighty these trucks
come with drivers so you're going to need to come back tomorrow with your transportation
people and pick up the trucks but bring along somebody else that can be the commander of the
one hundred and eighty drivers that have their own trucks and we did that the next day.
James: Where did you find the people to drive the trucks?
Kent: well it came from the transportation companies that were located in and around KKMC
because hey we were about 25,000 Strong both the Dahran, Demam and up there okay by that
time and we brought a company commander that was going to take charge of this 180 trucks
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with drivers all third country nationals he picked them up he took him back about a month later I
saw him and he says can't don't ever do this to me again and here are the issues they came
with their own little stoves prayer rugs and so forth okay and the first thing he learned is that he
had to support them with meals well he had this morning support he had to sort out any MREs
with pork in it that makes perfect sense okay but he said you know we worked through that but
one day I didn't get them the necessary oil that they they needed and all of a sudden they pulled
their own oil plugs and drained everything out in the sand and couldn't couldn't do anything
couldn't make the well a mail delivery couldn't make the water delivery couldn't move some of
the small ammunition that we had on pallets and so forth I mean he came to a dead stop until
they got oil and that's just the way it worked so he got his trucks but he also got a headache of
problems at the same time.
James: Alright now as all of this stuff is kind of going on are you kind of paying attention to any
of the build-up toward having an actual war.
Kent: oh yes so we had access to CNN unlike Vietnam I mean we could actually see what was
being reported back stateside etc so we could tune in we were very on top of it we had the Stars
and Stripes and we also had access to a Saudi paper that was in English okay so we can see
what the Saudis were saying at the same time I was surprised because the Saudi headquarters
asked for CNN if they could have access to CNN and we sent over a female signal sergeant to
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install it which was kind of a no-no I mean females driving trucks wearing t-shirts in Saudi Arabia
etc was a no-no culturally speaking but again the officers etc over there were pretty much
accepting because they'd been stateside they speak English and so forth all right so yes we had
more access to what was happening certainly in the Gulf War we know when the air war was
starting and we knew what was happening with the air war we know when the blues brothers
were being dropped we know when the daisy cutter' is being dropped and the thing that we
started watching in those hour-and-a-half briefings at night was the available of heat rounds for
artillery those rounds were important because they were going to penetrate the t-62s the 72s
the 52 s etc. and we're ready to go we could see that nightly but as that got up then we knew
that we're going to be close to the launch of the ground war on February 24th.
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James: Alright and now wet as the ground war starts or the immediate build-up mean what
happens with you or what are you doing?
Kent: we're still filling all these requests whatever the requests might be all right and we saw
request for barrier material I mean we had this big cement plant and there were slabs of cement
there left from the construction and everything like that but the Saudis weren't willing to give that
up okay and in spite of the thing you would think that with sand you could take an entrenching
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tool dig a foxhole it was very hard underneath that sand so we were engaged in getting Saudi
equipment back holds bulldozers anything like that that would help the units that were located
either within KKMC itself or even on the outside of that I mean everybody was fearing a threat at
that particular time and I wanted to do as much barrier developing as they possibly could so we
were engaged in all that stuff.
James: In your story now to the point where the attack or the…
Kent: So we could see the ground war was imminent and we had the briefing that we could
follow and see what Schwarzkopf and other commanders down at Riyadh were kind of thinking
we got good feedback on the air war that had started on what January 16th we knew that they
were bombing deep and now we could see those targets beginning to come closer and closer
and so forth okay and we were starting to get some inclinations that there were some desertions
that were happening okay about 35 Iraqis were showing up here and there now that led to
another issue in EPW camps and all of a sudden we had the 800 MP brigade show up which
then brought okay I need land I equipment for a wall I need razor well I need tenting I need
cooking stuff I need hygiene stuff I mean that just started a whole doubt huge of needs that we
turned to the Saudis to try to help them out because they didn't bring it with him so we were just
in perpetually we were just one issue after another issue depending on what was happening at
the particular time.
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James: Okay and then what happens? Then when the ground war actually begin.
Kent: So now the ground war starts okay and now we realize wow it's a million meals a day to
keep this going it's six million gallons of jp4 and diesel and Bo gas to keep this going it's
ammunition are we going to get it there quick enough it's the unit with the right hook the air
board is going a hundred kilometers 160 kilometers in a day and all of a sudden we got log
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bases far forward but is it going to be able to reach okay the unit's now that are moving that fast
so it's a rush to move everything forward water fuel food are we're gonna need replacement
parts I mean if we don't have to worry about barrier material anymore cuz we're moving so
damn fast okay we don't even have to think about that but now now what are you gonna do with
the dead we had a grave battalion that was located at KKMC graves and registration battalion
and here's a side bar we didn't know how many casualties were going to have I mean this was
the mother of all wars this is 500,000 Iraqis on one side and almost 200,000 combat but
500,000 on the other side that's going to clash at where we've got these trenches dug and oil
that's there and everything like that okay and what are we going to do with casualties and are
we prepared for the casualties and all of a sudden the Saudis come online and said what are we
going to do with Iraqi casualties because we have a tremendous responsibility for our own
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casualties and how it works from the company back to the battalion to the division to the Corps
and out of country and a KKMC the great Battalion was out of country as soon as possible that
is a primary mission and a core value as far as the u.s. is concerned so we pray we try to press
that upon the Saudis what are we going to do with the Iraqi casualties okay whether it's in Iraq
across the line perhaps perhaps in Saudi Arabia where we gonna have to take care of and so
forth so we come up we've got to come up with a equivalent kind of Saudi company with some
platoons to do that so in about two days we're working that with the Saudis they took a band
unit of Saudis and converted it to a platoon of Saudis okay now you got to have the trucks you
gotta have the back hose you got to have the wipe wrapping material what are you going to do
and so forth and we were making great progress we were ready to launch that group and all of a
sudden Saudis say hey I can't cross the line between our country and Iraq and we don't
necessarily want to bury them because they've feared that the Iraqis would find them and make
it an incident etc okay so we have that great fear hanging over a head as well as we had three
evacuation hospitals locator to KKMC the Emerald City was such it had an eight-story hospital
so the three evac’s were located all around it using the resources there etc. I mean this was
huge this is a mother of all battles that was going to happen on about a 300 mile front here right
in front of us not more than sixty to a hundred kilometers from us so we have all of those things
that we were working through okay ground war okay we're going the AirCam pen is damaged as
much as it can we've seen it we've watched it we see it's getting closer and closer EPW’s start
to show up we got the 800th MP brigade in here the start and develop forty five thousand
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EPW’s is expected over around KKMC and also further to the west now we got to start thinking
about refugee camps okay because all of a sudden we've got deserters beginning to show up
so that's huge on top of the supply mission and we're working all of this to the best of our
capability at that particular time so we launch now we got to keep the fuel going the water going
and everything like that okay we had probably a hundred buses from the Saudis because to
move the troops forward they didn't have enough military assets on their own we brought only
one bus back after the brown war because they had ground them into the sand and everything
that was going forward okay was designed now to bring back our own casualties as necessary
but all of a sudden we had all these EPW’s that we're being brought back on anything that was
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nature where we took the flatbed forward with the ammunition and everything like that well
they're coming back empty okay but now hey we had EPW just corralled in the sand in the
desert and a couple of soldiers watching over them waiting to be picked up I mean that's what
was happening behind the battle lines in that particular time there was always something going
on that needed attention and support as much as we could get from the Saudis the Saudis
basically paid for everything in country we had to keep track of it though okay all those buses all
those trucks ect. They paid for now the trucks where did the trucks come from they were all
consigned for by the Saudis so they moved the coalition forces first and they were then sitting in
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the truck farm and that's why they were offered to the US because we were late coming into the
theater with a 7th Corps and trying to move supplies forward ok but they're all contracted and
that 180 they were privately owned by the the third country national driver of that particular truck
so in spite of everything you know looking like a war it was still contracting payments and
everything like that going on at the same time. Did I lose you?
James: No, No. So the shooting war only lasted a few days.
Kent: So 100 our war okay now now we have the problem in Basra with the Shiites ok fearing
Sunnis and Saddam ect. Okay and now we had refugee needs that were starting to develop
okay and the next thing that was happening after the 100-hour war we put the tents up at
Southwind when Schwartzkopf went up there to negotiate the end to it etc okay provided the
security for it so some more logistics kinds of things happening okay so now the 100-hour war
ends we're trying to stabilize things in southern Iraq with the 1st armored division the first
entered division etc ok and as things begin to quiet down now what happens it's Katie bar the
door because the US wants to get at soldiers home so redeployment becomes our top issue
and at the same time that that's happening we have the issue happening with the Kurds way up
north so now we're flying some of that supplies tentage water MRI’s okay that we didn't use we
build up about 45 days worth of supply we use three days worth or a hundred hours worth and
now we're starting to ship that stuff up to northern Iraq to support the Kurds so we got another
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logistics mission that's happening at the same time that we're trying to now move the 18th
Airborne Corps out and the seventh Corps out ok so here's another story 1st Armored Division
comes back they got a redeployment area that's 20 by 25 kilometer square huge area before
they can send their equipment to the port they've got to clean it this is U.S agricultural kind of
requirement ok which means you need water you need water you need water you always need
water so what happens in their 20 by 25 kilometer square area they had a Saudi that they had
contracted who had a private well of his own and there was also a well in a small Saudi Vale
that village that had about probably 15 huts in it ok they were more than a hut not a Tin Hunt or
anything like that it was substantial mud and so forth ok so the first Armored Division had
promised to repair the well that had broken remember this is two thousand feet deep ok and in
the meantime he had a private well that was outside the little village and the 1st Armored
Division had sent over some guys to put down a fifty thousand dollar bag and start drawing
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water off of it and he got angry because they weren't repairing the well that was part of the deal
ok so all of a sudden Kent Morris and I go out there he's my linguist and we find four guys over
here with ak-47 Saudis and over on this side is four guys with m16s and each claiming the bag
the water etc and the guy saying I'm not gonna pump anymore till you start paying me and the
us saying hey we need it never going to take it so we went out and a day later we cut a contract
for thirty thousand riyals a month it's about eight thousand dollars a month to draw that
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water okay he started out at a hundred and twenty thousand riyals a month okay the Saudis
knew when they had somebody that they could make some money off oh I mean that was the
bad thing about host nation and contracting is the doggone cost kept going up every time he
went back and he needed more it had doubled it had tripled and we needed to bring the Saudis
in to find out what's a reasonable rate for whatever is involved whether it's water whether it's
fresh fruits and vegetables whether it's bread I mean you lived on MREs for about 30 days and
then you know that was a morale Buster so we had to get the fresh fruit water and everything
like that that we got from the Saudis we got them from the Saudis okay at a cost at a cost.
James: so how long did you wind up spending in Saudi Arabia then?
Kent: I was there too I got back in June and by that time we had brought into into Saudi Arabia
400,000 short tons of ammunition we only used 50,000 short tons so short we had 350,000 tons
to clean up pack up and ship back okay we had firing ranges before we launched the ground
war where they did practice in the desert and there was unexploded ordnance that didn't
explode when they fired at downrange and to this day I know that some camel herder or
bedowin is going to stumble on that blown to hell okay there then we had to bring in the legal
team we had to solve that particular issue pay the amount at etc. I mean during during the buildup we had almost 25 vehicles passing a single point in a minute on Tapline Road which is MSR
Dodge and at one time during the buildup we were losing almost a soldier a day to a traffic
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accident part of that was due to the inexperienced Saudi drivers they drove like a teenager
excuse me if you were on a two-lane highway and going too slow they’d just cut to the desert
went around okay we didn't have enough MPs to put all over the place so it's a dangerous place
to be and one time the,slogan when the briefing slide was what not one more soldier that we
were losing to a traffic accident because of the high intensity as far as supporting the troops the
two cores are out there plus the British division was out there the French division was out there
coalition forces were out there all using the same two lane highway MSR dodge.
James: Now did things eventually wind down for you or…?
Kent: when I left we were trying to move everything out okay including all the equipment came
in the ammunition that came in and everything like that okay so we're beginning to wane down
it's all coming back to KKMC except we were going to put a brigade size unit in Kuwait so in that
case we were cleaning up the equipment to move it to a new base and that was gonna become
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a support base in Kuwait just outside of Kuwait City in the event Saddam decided to do
something again the Shiites that were still in southern Iraq because that hadn't settled down all
together okay so when I left we still had a host nation office that was still working in supporting
the Redeployment in terms of moving equipment out and so forth move the personnel out first
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then we moved the equipment out etc okay I mean you the ammunition dump that we had you
couldn't even see to the end of it I mean just stacked up and it came in at a pallet but by the
time it came back though came back in vehicles the pallets were broken so it had to be cleaned
up had to be repalletized then reloaded put her on to an 18-wheeler ship back to the port loaded
back up on the ship and taken out again okay we had we had 20-foot and 40-foot containers
stacked double and triple high in the desert okay got in too late.
James: Now, did your unit go out together or did you leave individually or…?
Kent: so we came we had an advance party that came in that was I think about the six strong
early December then the main unit was a hundred and fifty they came in before Christmas and
then we came out in May most of us came out in May early June we left behind though a fairly
sizable cell of about twenty thirty some of those were volunteers that came from other units that
augmented the 21st TACOM that was working with the 22nd because the movement took place
for another year to get stuff out of country so there were some volunteers that stayed well after
that yeah.
James: Alright because yours was a reserve unit and there is an expectation that they get to go
back home.
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Kent: Yeah we thought we thought it would be over at about two months right I was listening to
this story earlier here in Korea they thought it was gonna be quick well I remember Pagones
getting up on a stage and saying you know you longings are gonna be here in the last out he's
absolutely right.
James: Now did you get into Kuwait yourself?
Kent: I was in Kuwait several times
James: What were you doing there?
Kent: we had in the hospital it's about 300 patients those three M evac hospitals the Iraqis came
across the line because they got hurt and things like that I mean that kept hitting the units all
along so we had a build up of 300 patients in the evac hospitals that was located there KK MC
and we did one bus trip back to softmod which was up through Kuwait and then into southern
Iraq we also did what about 18 Chinook lifts of which about we had about 24 Iraqis each and
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getting because the evac Hospital couldn't leave until excuse me the patients were cleared out
some didn't want to go back okay so wanted to claim asylum and so forth that was a whole
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other issue that we had to work through so yes probably Highway one where a A-10 shot up the
highway and just terrific desert action I mean you could smell that when you drove through there
and I was through there about two days afterwards okay work in that particular area is
devastating I mean the number of vehicles everything that was on the vehicles and everything
like that.
James: now were there also oil fires?
Kent: oh yes yep so you drove through a black region I mean it was just like night so our guys
our guys were exposed to plutonium as far as the ammunition is concerned they were exposed
to pesticides because we used a lot of pesticides in the desert there they were exposed to the
oil fires that were there so I don't know what's going to come out of the Gulf War when we really
start to look at 10 15 years later like we looked at Agent Orange coming out of Vietnam and so
forth okay it's hard to say.
James: and that's independent of any kind of chemical or biological agents the Iraqis might have
had someplace or whatever
Kent: yeah yeah
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James: at the same time all right now thought you would talked about you know your being in
Saudi Arabia and so forth and being able to see the news and that kind of stuff did you have
more personal communication with home and you would have in Vietnam
Kent: oh yes I might also share with you I think we left a million dollar telephone bill because we
figured out how we could direct down the home without but now if you were unit in the sand I
mean you had the the phone banks there etc. okay but remember we were inside the Emerald
City okay this is this is a well developed area so personally I knew where I could go to find a
phone and I could direct dial home the only thing I had to watch was the eight hour difference
between home and us now we didn't abuse it but everybody on the team could have to call back
at least once okay so that was much different much different.
James: Alright now when you do leave that what's the physical process of getting out where do
you fly out of and where do you go?
Kent: So KKMC we went back down to Dahran, Dahran we loaded on a plane a civilian plane in
this case it wasn't a c-130 I remember I don't remember where we stopped but we flew directly
in to Indianapolis in this case so not the East Coast not the West Coast I mean family
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was there waiting when we came in etc and it was Katie bar the door nobody wanted to hang
around the center any longer than you have to just a quick debriefing safety instruction go out
on leave and then come back and you start working on what you need to do as far as reports
are concerned and so forth all right very pleasant.
James: Kind of a contrast to coming back from Vietnam.
Kent: yes the 180 again just a complete different.
James: Okay so what kind of cleanup then did you have to do once you got back you have to
have a lot of worked a lot of paperwork to do?
Kent: Not bad at all because we didn't take any heavy equipment transportation wise over with
us so it's mainly personnel equipment after-action reports doing things of that nature lessons
learned we always had lessons learned I always say lessons forgotten because they got written
down and it seemed like it always came up two years later and said did we just go through this
nut throw but people change and that's what happens they don't necessarily read the afteraction report or the lessons learned or things change in terms of the equipment and everything
like that I mean when we went to Operation Joint Endeavor 95 96 I mean we commuted
communicated by the internet I mean that's how we came through those three different kinds of
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things I mean that was just that absolutely amazing I was still communicating with IUSB in terms
of my work role via the Internet at that time.
James: So you’re back in 91 then you have… things are relatively quiet for four years?
Kent: For about four years I still at IUSB in 95 the balloon goes up for operation Joint Endeavor
the mobile I the unit gets mobilized again not 150 I want to say about 80 or 90 we fell in on
Kaiserslautern at that particular time and we the main operating base was out of Kaiserslautern
Germany and we had a forward log unit at the end of the rail line in Hungary because we were
now moving stuff out of Germany down to Hungary and then from Hungary on into Serbia
Kosovo etc Croatia okay.
James: So this is all peacekeeping and what used to be Yugoslavia the other support.
Kent: Yeah again a very safe environment long missions now I'm working with the Germans the
Austrians and the Hungarians and a liaison kind of way to make sure the rail lines are open
making sure that we have convoy clearances in terms of moving stuff via the highway and
everything of that nature so again in a very safe kind of environment protective kind of
environment working with the host nation solving problems keeping things moving etc I mean I
couldn't ask for anything better again okay.
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James: Alright were there notable differences between how the Germans Austrians Hungarians
worked or was it fairly seamless?
Kent: W ell the Germans were very well prepared because remember we had reforger and
return of forces to Germany during the Cold War then we had reforger where we moved
everything out of Germany okay the seventh Corps down to Saudi Arabia so a lot of experience
there okay and and prepositioned equipment and Germany and everything like that where we
had nothing pre position as far as the Saudis were concerned so we had that experience
coming out of Germany again in supporting operation Joint Endeavor and the liaison were just
excellent okay I mean they knew the inside and the out the Australian liaison officer know who
to contact to get the convoy clearance if there was any problem along the road and everything
like that again just tremendous professional and personnel in a counterpart kind of way okay at
all military okay but the military knew who would contact in a civilian kind of way.
James: Right. Within Austria or Hungary, was it different there.
Kent: No same thing.
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James: Okay.
Kent: Great liaison again the only thing is in Hungary we jammed so much in terms of the rail
they didn't have time to unload it we backed up the trains when we're starting bad.
James: Now I guess if you and then that's getting right down to the point pretty much where you
rule.
Kent: so 96 I come back third deployment or third combat area not quite so close combat each
one of those times I am at IUSB and IUSB is a little bit unsung with me now they I got pulled out
twice as a professional person there and we all understand the laws and everything like that but
that puts a tremendous strain on the office that you're trying to run and everything like that okay
I kind of felt like I had out warned my welcome there I always refer to myself when I got
mobilized for Desert Storm but I was a closeted reservists most of the professors there the staff
there didn't know that I was participating or anything like that so they were utterly surprised and
I guess that was part of my education is to write the letters home from the Gulf and kind of
educate him a little bit more on what a reservist does when he's mobilized and so forth okay so I
came back in 96 assuming my same job again kind of associate dean for student services and
registrar and I had applied part of that to West Point for registrar's and an assistant dean kind of
position but I didn't make it any place and they hired in person kind of thing I learned later so the
�Grand Valley State University Veterans History Project
Oral History Interview
Veteran: Kent Laudeman
Interviewed by James Smither
Transcribed by Chad Hitchcock
second time I said I'm gonna give this another shot but I downplayed my military bio because
the first time I did play my military bio with West Point you'd think that'd be a positive right so I
[86:44 - 89:50]
downplayed that work more on the civilian part of it. Got invited to an interview and they were
pleasantly surprised to hear my military background as I went through the committee and was
shown around and everything like that and that went well I mean in 97 I was headed then in
June to United States Military Academy stayed there for thirteen years and absolutely loved
every year of it okay put me back in higher education again I had the adult student so I had
missed the maturity of the adult student and had pretty much the 18 to 21 year old and some
immaturity I shouldn't say that okay but great students cadets again but a different kind of cadet
okay so I was back working in higher education absolutely loved it again okay teaching
leadership course psych course and so forth and then stayed there for 13 years to 2010.
James: So you're doing that then through 9/11 and through..
Kent: I'm a civilian though I'm a civilian in a military setting okay because I hit my mandatory
retirement date after 28 years so and I hit that the same year 97 that I went to West Point so I
went in as a civilian
�Grand Valley State University Veterans History Project
Oral History Interview
Veteran: Kent Laudeman
Interviewed by James Smither
Transcribed by Chad Hitchcock
James: Right so what was the response at West Point to 9/11.
Kent: well that was devastating and I remember sitting at my desk when we saw the first thing
happening on TV and it impacted it impacted many parents that were connected to the towers
and had son or daughter Westland I mean that's where you really felt it but in addition to that a
lot of the firemen and the policemen didn't live in Manhattan proper they lived upstate you know
an hour and a half two hours away because of the cost of living and oh by the way if you're a
policeman or fireman you went down for three shifts you could work the 3 shifts you had a place
to stay you come back to the community etc so some of the local communities really got hit hard
in terms of firemen and policemen so that was a second whammy during 9/11 so it's not only
the Academy but the small community fort Montgomery that we lived in or the surrounding
communities there that we really felt the impact of that and that's where our security went up at
at West Point and all of a sudden you didn't have enough MPs to put on the front gate in an
extended kind of way and so the Dean at one star was out there pulling security at the front gate
we were pulling security there any military was pursuing security civilians helped out kind a way
and I remember the Dean coming back one night and saying boy you never want to be on duty
when the hockey team comes back because their bags are really strong there's a lot of little
stories like that that you know you'd never hear any place else but just kind of humanizes
everything that happens and what happened after 2010 ok I’m on social security by nowI’m
getting older maybe it's time to retire and Diane wanted to come back at that particular time so I
�Grand Valley State University Veterans History Project
Oral History Interview
Veteran: Kent Laudeman
Interviewed by James Smither
Transcribed by Chad Hitchcock
came back spent a year we built a new house but the whole Walker lower basement was
undeveloped I said well that's going to be my task for a year so 125 sheets of sheetrock 10 foot
high so forth I have totally immersed myself in that took my lunch back into the basement
worked hard there and I literally flunked retirement I flunked retirement and I was serving on a
[89:51 - End]
committee at at the alcohol addictions and Resource Center in South Bend and I had served on
when I was with IUSB on the board of directors went back I showed my resume there and
Steve Camilleri the executive director for the center of the homeless on my resume and say hey
you know we're opening up a center a 24 bed Center for homeless veterans and he talked me
into that okay so in 2012 I became a 2011 the end of 2011 I became the director of the Robert
Miller Veterans Center for homeless veterans of 24 bed facility and I've been there since almost
5 plus years
James: it was that South Bend
Kent: that's in South Bend.
James: Alright yeah well there are worse ways to flunk retirement I think.
�Grand Valley State University Veterans History Project
Oral History Interview
Veteran: Kent Laudeman
Interviewed by James Smither
Transcribed by Chad Hitchcock
Kent: It keeps me busy, it gets me out of the house I think.
James: Alright well thanks for a pretty remarkable and unusual story. different thank you very
much for taking the time.
Kent: Thank you for what you're doing with veterans okay.
�
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CITY OF SOUTHFIELV
PARKS ANV RECREATION
SOUTHFIELV, MICHIGAN
�MASTER. STREET TREE PLAJJ
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LauJLe.nee. A. Schenk,
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CITY OF SOUTHFIELD
VEPARTMENT OF PARKS AiJV RECREATION
EL6-1100 Exte.n1.>lon ?.08-209
�MASTER STREET TREE
PLAN
-Southfield's Master Street Tree Plan was the result of a comprehensive survey
and evaluation of the site factors on each of the streets in Southfield.
•
After the
survey which took nearly two years, an official tree was designated for each of the
streets in the community.
Consideration of the following factors were given in
selecting the trees:; (1) width of the space between sidewalk and curb (2) setback
distance of the house (3) width of street (4) direction of street (5) Height of overhead wires (6) existance of underground utilities (7) type and location of street
lighting (8) type of soil (9) architecture of the neighborhood (10) drainage (11)
Existing trees (12) type of neighborhood (13) prevailing winds (14) tree maintenance
and disease characteristics (15) tree form, size, color, texture (16) tree use. These
factors were then applied to the consideration of what tree varieties are suitable
for this climate and urban growing conditions.
Selection of a number of species is consider~d essential, for diseases such as
•
Dutch Elm Disease and Chestnut Blight have shown us what problems can occur when a
disease threatens to wipe out a single tree species.
When a great number o~ species
are planted~ the chances for the spread of disease and the devastation attendant with
such losses, are greatly reduced.
In Master Street Tree Plans an objective of no more
than 15% of any one tree species is common.
When soils are particularly difficult or
a specific display of color or form is desired on certain streets some species may
exceed the 15% figure.
Given an unlimited amount of time, nature itself would give good tree distribution,
because unsuitable species would die and suitable species live.
Many individuals
have in the past planted inferior tree species because they grow rapidly and show
quick progress.
In many cases the resident lives on the property long enough to suffer
the drawbacks of poor selection i.e., clogged sewers~ raised sidewalks, falling limbs,
insects
9
loss of grass, etc.
More often they do not, but pass the tree on to the next
owner who then bears the problems of maintenance and sometimes the cost of replacement.
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This hit and miss method is not necessary when competent professional help is
available to analyze and recommend proper plantings for any given area.
Since the
right of way area next to Southfield~s public streets is under the statutory jurisdiction of the Parks and Recreation Department of the City of Southfield, i t necessarily follows that this Department should be responsible for devising and implementing
a Master Street Tree Plan.
No plan is worthwhile unless it can be translated into action.
It was necessary
to make a decision on what type of implementation plan should be attempted.
The plan
the Parks and Recreation Department has selected is a voluntary plan working primarily
through Civic Improvement Associations.
Contact is made with the Association and a
Department staff member attends a general membership meeting and explains the purpose
of the Master Street Tree Plan.
Included in this explanation is a discussion of the
local Tree Ordinance and information regarding planting and tree care.
The Association
makes the determination what members would like to participate in tree plantings and
a contract is arranged with a commercial firm through the Parks and Recreation Department using the City of Southfield's buying power.
After the tre es are planted, the
contractor collects either from the Association or from the individual property owners,
whichever arrangement has been agreed to before planting.
This arrangement has already
resulted in approximately 1,000 street trees being planted in various subdivisions.
In those few sections of Southfie ld where no Civic Associations have been forme d ,
the Parks and Recreation Department will work with individual property O":·mers.
allows everyone to avail thems e lves of t h e convenience of the plan regardl e ss of
residence location.
Th is
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The use of Civic Associations for implementation has the advantage of being
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completely voluntary 9 allows the Department an opportuntiy to educate the public
on beautification, strengthens the working relationships with Civic Associations,
promotes better care after planting because of personal involvement 9 and sets up
a program whereby those who benefit bear the costs involved.
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DEPARTMENT OF PARKS AND RECREATION
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RECOMMENDED TREES FOR PLANTING
(See Master Street Tree Plan or Call Parks & Recreation Dept.
356-1100 x 208 for tree species required for your street)
SHADE & ORNAMENTAL TREES
Norway Maple (& varieties - Columnar, Globe, Cleveland)
Sugar Maple (& dwarf variety Seneca)
Red Maple (Improved varieties only)
Crimson King Maple (Purple Leaves)
Schwedler Maple (Purple-green Leaves)
Amur Maple
Hedge Maple
Mountain Ash (Selected use only)
Green Ash (Marshall Seedless only)
Honey Locust (Patented varieties only i.e., Moraine, Shademaster, Skyline,
Imperial, Sunburst)
Globe Locust
Red Oak
Pin Oak
Little Leaf Linden
Crimean Linden
Ginkgo (male only)
Japanese Pagoda Tree
Hock.berry
Pyramidal European Hornbeam
American Hop Hornbeam
London Plane
Sweet Gum
Hawthorn (Varieties - Pauls Scarlet, Lavalle, Washington)
Crab Apple (Varieties - Hopa, Japanese Flowering, Aldenham Purple,
Snowdrift)
Oriental Cherry "Kwansan"
Sargent Cherry
MISCELLANEOUS CLASSIFICATION - No specific tree or spacing or location~ anv
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PLANTING INSTRUCTIONS
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1.
Plant trees no less than 40 feet apart.
2.
Plant trees no less than 5 feet from driveways.
3.
Do not plant trees on a planting strip less than 4 feet wide.
4.
Do not plant trees closer than 15 feet from any street intersection measured from the closest corner.
5.
Do not plant trees less than
above the ground.
6.
Do not plant trees closer than 3 feet from the curb unless
the planting strip is less than 6 feet wide.
7.
Do not plant trees from the following list:
l 1/2 inches in diameter
_§_ inches
Willow (salix - all varieties)
Poplar (populus sp,)
Silver Maple (acer saccharinum)
Box Elder (acer negundo)
Tree of Heaven (Ailanthus altissimus)
Wild Chestnut (castanea sp.)
American Elm (ulrnus americana)
Chinese Elm or Siberian Elm
Mulberry
8.
Watch out for s-ewers, gas and water mains when digging.
1.
Never mound the earth around the trunk. The soil should be
dished (higher at the edge of the dug-up area) allowing rain
or other water to seep in around the roots.
2.
Keep an area of at least 12-18 inches radius from the trunk
free of grass. This helps protect the tree from being damaged
by lawnmowers and it provides the tree with loose, absorbent
soil. (Crushed rock, wood chips, or pebble mulch in this area
look nice and keep the soil loose.)
3.
Never overwater. Many trees, particularily those planted in
heavy clay soil, are lost by excessive watering. In sandy
soil with good drainage, overwatering is not a problem. A
good mulch will cut down the need for frequent watering except
in periods of prolonged drought or in the hot, dry 9 late summer
months.
4.
Look for "sucker sprouts" along the trunks of new street trees cut them off before they disfigure the tree,
�MASTER STREET TREE PLAN
Street
ABERDEEN
A
Section
Honey Locust from 11 Mile to Catalpa & Bedford to Crescent
12 ,13
Ma~shall Green Ash from Catalpa to 12 Mile
13
ABINGTON
Norway Maple
15
ACACIA
Miscellaneous
21
ADDISON
Misc. from Red River to Santa Barbara & Mulberry to Green Valley 26 ,28
Honey Locust from Santa Barbara to Continental & Maryland to
Greenfield
25,26
Red Maple from Southfield to Robert
25
Marshall Green Ash from Robert to Maryland
25
ADDISON COURT
Heney Locust
25
ADELEIN
Sugar Maple
31
ADRIAN
Norway Maple from Santa Barbara to Catalina
23
Honey Locust from Catalina to Woodvilla
23, 24
AGNEW
Schwedler Maple
25
ALBANY
Mis ce llane ous
35
ALBERT
Honey Locust
12
ALHAMBRA
Honey Locust
15
ALMIRA
Sugar _Maple
29
ALTA VISTA
Honey Locust
23, 24
ALVIN
Miscellaneous
33
ANDOVER
Norway Maple
15
ANNA
Norway Map le
25
ARBOR PLACE
Schwedler Maple
25
ARIEL
Marshall Green Ash
25
ARLINGTON COURT
Norway Maple
15
ARLINGTON
Norway Map le
15
ARROWHEAD
Honey Locust
23
�--
MASTER STREET TREE PLAN CONTINUED
Street
A
•
Section
ASHLEY COURT
Norway Maple
10
AUDREY
Miscellaneous
27
AUTUMN
Norway Maple
11
AVILLA
Marshall Green Ash
13
AVON
Little Leaf Linden from Greenview to Greenview
35
Red Maple from 8 Mile to Midway
35
B
BAINBRIDGE
Norway Maple
11
BALEWOOD
Miscellaneous
12
BARBARA FRITCHIE
Norway Maple
23, 26
BAYP-RD
Miscellaneous
23
BECK
Miscellaneous
18
Honey Locust
12
BEECH COURT
Miscellaneous
30
BEECH ROAD
Red Oak
30, 31
BEECHAVEN
Mis ce llane ous
10
BELL ROAD
Mis ce llane ous
16
BELLBROOK
Mis ce llane ous
16
Miscellaneous
16
BELLMONT
Norway Maple
15
BENTLER
Miscellaneous
34
BERG ROAD
Red Oak
BERMUDA
Norway Maple
10
BERKSHIRE
Norway Maple
15
BIRCHRIDGE
Miscellaneous
35
BITTERSWEET
Miscellaneous
16
BOB WHITE
Mis ce llane ous
22
BEDFORD N
&E
BELLWOOD N
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s
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21, 28, 33
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�MASTER STREET TREE PLAN CONTINUED
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Street
B
Section
BOENING
Miscellaneous
35
BONSTELLE
Marshall Green Ash
25
BRADFORD
Honey Locust
15
BRADFORD COURT
Crimson King Maple
15
BRADFORD CIRCLE
Honey Locust
15
BRANDYWYNNE
Honey Locust
29
BRAZIL
Miscellaneous
21
BRENTWOOD
Red Maple
12, 13
BRIARBANK
Miscellaneous
21
BRIARBANK COURT
Miscellaneous
9
BRIARWOOD
Norway Maple
15
BRIXTON
Norway Maple
36
BROOKS LANE
Miscellaneous
9' 16
BROOKSHIRE
Norway Map le
15
BROOKSIDE
Mis ce llane ous
28
BUCHANAN
Miscellaneous
32
BUSH
Miscellaneous
28
BUTTERCREST
Miscellaneous
35
BUTTERNUT
Marshall Green Ash
11
BYRON
Sugar Maple
31
C
Norway Maple from Lathrup Village to Sprin _q Arbor
13
Marshall Green Ash from Shagbark to Greenfield
13
CANDLEWOOD
Norway Maple
11
CANTERBURY
Honey Locust from Nadora south to dead end
12
Norway Maple from Evans to 13 Mile
12
Red Maple
26
CAMBRIDGE
.,
CAPITOL
�--
MASTER STREET TREE PLAN CONTINUED
Street
,.
C
Section .
CARLETON
Miscellaneous
32
CARMEL
Marshall Green Ash
15
CARMEL COURT
Marshall Green Ash
15
CARMONA
Little Leaf Linden
23
CASE
Miscellaneous
17
CASLETON
Ginkgo
24
CATALINA
Little Leaf Linden
23
CATALPA
Honey Locust
13
CEDARCROFT
American Hop Hornbeam
24
CHARLES COURT
Marshall Green Ash
15
CHARLES
Norway Maple
15
CHARLTON
Miscellaneous
22
CHARTER
Miscellaneous
21
CHARWOOD
His ce llane ous
33
CHATHAM
Norway Maple
10
CHATS FORD
Miscellaneous
16
CHELMSFORD
Norway Maple
11
CHERIMOOR
Miscellaneous
30
CHERRY HILL
Crimson King Map le
11
CHURCHES
Miscellaneous
29
CIRCLE DRIVE
Mi see llaneous
22
CIVIC CENTER
Miscellaneous
23
CLARKSON
Mis ce llane ous
21
CODE
Miscellaneous
21
CONCORD
Marshall Green Ash from Lahser to Abington
15
Norway Maple from Abington to Devonshire
15
Marshall Green Ash
15
CONCORD COURT
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�--
MASTER STREET TREE PLAN CONTINUED
Street
C
Section
26
CONNECTICUT
Honey Locust
CONSTITUTION
Marshall Gl'."een
CONTINENT AL
Red Maple
23, 26
CONCOURSE
Little leaf Linden
23
CORAL GAB LES
Mis ce llane ous
CORALSEX
Mis ce llane ous
23
CORNELL
Honey Locust
35, 36
CORNWALL
Ginkgo
24
CORRINE
Miscellaneous
9
COTTAGE
Mis ce llane ous
33
COVENTRY WOODS
Flowering Crab Apple
16
COVINGTON
Norway Maple
15
CRESCENT
Honey Locust from Bedford to Pierce
12
Honey Locust from Pierce to Red leaf
12
Honey Locust
26
CUSTIS
Ash
15
20, 22, 23, 24
D
DAISY LANE
Miscellaneous
32
DARTMOUTH
Norway Maple
15
DELAWARE
Sugar Maple
31
DEVONSHIRE
Norway Maple
15
DOLPHIN
Miscellaneous
28
DONOVAN
Mi see llane ous
34
DORSET
London Plane from Evergreen to Stahelin
35
Norway Maple from dead end to Southfield
35
Norway Maple from Southfield to Northwestern
36
DOVER
Norway Maple
15
DUFTY
Miscellaneous
8
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�MASTER STREET TREE PLf!N CONTINUED
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Street
D
S8 ct ion
DUNBAR
Mis ce llane ous
DUNS SCOTUS
Miscellaneous from Plum Hollow to Lahser
28
Red Maple from Lahser to Plumbrooke
27
~forway Maple
11
DUXBURY
E
EAST
Pin Oak
31
EDGEMONT
Miscellaneous
19, 30
EDINBURGH
Suga.r Mapl-3
29
EDWARDS
Honey Locust
12
EIGHT MILE
Honey Locust
81. - 36
8 1/2 MILE
Mis ce llane ous
ELEVEN MILE
Kwansan Cherry
ELDRIDGE
Norway Maple
ELDRIDGE COURT
Norway Maple
11
EMMETT
Red Maple
31
ESTELLE
Sunburst Locust
25
EVANS
Marshall Green Ash
12
EVERETT
Red Maple from Catalpa to 13 Mile
12, 13
Marshall Green Ash from 11 Mile to San Quentin
13
EVERGREEN
13 - 18
.
Kwansan Cherry
F
FAIRFAX
FP..IRFIELD
Marshall Green Ash from Catalpa to 12 Mile
13
Marshall Green Ash from Maryland to George Washington
25
Norway Maple from George Washington to 10 1/2 Mile
25, 24
Crimson King Maple from 11 Mile to San Quentin
13
Red Maple from 12 Mile to 13 Mile
12
Miscellaneous
24
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�MASTER STREET PLAN CONTINUED
Street
F
Section
FAIRVIEW CRESCENT
Miscellaneous
12
FAIRWAY
Miscellaneous
33
FALL RIVER
Norway Maple
11
FARMBROOK
Miscellaneous
7, 8
FILMORE
Honey Locust from Southfield to Adrian
24
Honey Locust from Sherfield east to Dead end
24
Marshall Green Ash from Evergreen to Parsons
23
Marshall Green Ash from Continental to Southfield
23
FINN
Miscellaneous
20
FITANE
Miscellaneous
18
FONTANA
Norway Maple
15
FORESTVIEW
Miscellaneous
29, 30
FORESTWOOD
Miscellaneous
10
FRAMINGHAM
Norway Xaple
11
FRANKLIN ROAD
Pin Oak from Telegraph to 11 Mile
20
Miscellaneous from 11 Mile to Franklin Village
7, 17, 18
FRAZER
Miscellaneous
34
FREDRICK
Mis ce llaneo us
32
FRIAR LANE
Mis ce llane ous
21
G
GARNER
Sugar Maple
29
GEORGE WASHINGTON
Honey Locust from Southfield east to Pierce
25
London Plane from Maryland to Greenfield
25
Marshall Green Ash Connecticut to Southfield
26
GLASGOW
Marshall Green Ash
13
GLASTONBURY GATE
Miscellaneous
16
GLENEYRIE
Mis ce llane ous
30
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MASTER STREET TREE PLAN CONTINUED
Street
G
Honey Locust from Shenandoah west to Dead end
GLENMORRA
east
Mountain Ash
& west
15
from Paul Revere to dead ends
15
GLENSIDE
Miscellaneous
29
GOLDWIN
Honey Locust
23
Honey Locust from Southfield to Woodvilla
24
Honey Locust from Kingshire east to dead end
24
Red Map le from Southwood east to dead end
24
GOLFVIEW
Mis ce llane ous
33
GRAND CONCOURSE
Litt le Leaf Linden
23
GREENFIELD
Schwedler Maple
GREEN LEIGH COURT
Miscellaneous
24
GREENSPRUCE
Norway Maple
11
GREEN VALLEY
Ml.see llaneous
28
GREENVIEW
Hotiey Locust
35
GREENWALD
Miscellaneous from Hazelhurst to Greenview
35
Norway Maple from Greenview to Southfield
35
Norway Maple
10
GROSVENOR
Norway Maple
11
GUY
Honey Locust
11
GREENWAY N
&s
•
Section
12, 13, 24, 25 • 36
•
H
·•
HAMPSHIRE
Marshall Green
Ash
15
HAMPSHIRE COURT
Marshall Green Ash
15
HAMPTON COURT
Mis ce llane ous
16
HARBOR COURT
Norway Maple
15
HARBOR
Norway Maple
15
HARDEN
Norway Maple
25
HARVARD
Honey Locust from 11 Mile to Devonshire
15
Norway Maple from Devonshire to .Abineton
15
•
�MASTER STREET TREE PLAN CONTINUED
Street
HAZELHURST
H
Section
Sugar Maple from Prosper to Telegraph
32
Miscellaneous
33, 35
HAZEN
Miscellaneous
21
HELEN
Miscellaneous
28
HERITAGE COURT
Marshall Green Ash
11
HERITAGE
Marshall Green Ash
11
HIAWATHA
Mis eel laneous
27
HICKORY LEAF
Norway Maple
11
HICKORY HILL
Miscellaneous
29
HILTON
Marshall Green Ash from Evergreen to Pierce
London Plane from Kingshire east to dead end
24
HOLLYWOOD
Norway Maple
35
HOOPER
Miscellaneous
20
Miscellaneous
8
Miscellaneous
28
OPE
HUNTERS LANE
I
Honey Locust from Lahser to Valley Forge
15
Norway Haple from Shenandoah east to dead end
15
INDIAN
Red Oak
31
INGLESIDE
Miscellaneous
29
INKSTER
Pin Oak
INTERSTATE 696
No:i:way Maple
18, 26
IVANHOE LANE
Flowering Crab Apple
16
INDEPENDENCE
7,19, 31
J
JEANETTE
-
EFFERY
JILL
Marshall Green Ash
23, 24
Schwedler Maple
26
Marshall Green Ash
25
�MASTER STREET
Street
~RlJili.
J
CONTINUED
Section
J.L. HUDSON
Miscellaneous
36
JOHN'Y CAKE
Norway Map le
13
JORAND
Miscellaneous
19
JUDSON
Honey Locust
12
I
K
.
KALONG E & w
Mis ce 11 ane ous
18
KEANE
Marshall Green Ash
31
KEEFER
Pin Oak
32
KENSINGTON
Marshall Green Ash
11
KENSINGTON COURT
Miscellaneous
22
KENWYCK
Sunburst Locust
16
KESH
Honey Locust
11
KILDARE
Miscellaneous
20
KINGSHIRE
Norway Maple
24
KINGSWAY COURT
Crimson King Maple
26
KINLOCH
Sugar Maple
31
KINSEL
Miscellaneous
29
KNOB WOODS
Miscellaneous
22
KRUGER
Miscellaneous
33
L
LACROSSE
Norway Maple
15
LAFAYETTE CIRCLE
Miscellaneous
26
LAHSER
Norway Maple
9, 21, 33
LAKE RAVINES
Miscellaneous
30
LARGES
Miscellaneous
28
LARKINS
Miscellaneous
29
LARKINS COURT
Miscellaneous
29
�MASTER STREET TREE PLAN CONTINUED
---L
Street
LARKMOOR
Norway Maple
15
LATHRUP
Honey Locust from 12 Mile north to dead end
12
Honey Locust from Maryland to Mount Vernon
25
Norway Maple from 10 1/2 Mile south to Silver Maple
24, 25
Norway Maple from Winora to Melrose
36
LAURA
Miscellaneous
26
LAUREL VALLEY
Miscellaneous
16
LAUREL VALLEY COURT Miscellaneous
16
LEDGESTONE
Norway Maple
15
LEE
Norway M~ple
25
LEE HEIGHTS
Miscellaneous
28
LEE LANE
Miscellaneous
28
LEE BAKER
Miscellaneous from Northwestern south to Northwestern
26
Honey Locust from Northwestern north to Santa Barbara
26
Norway Maple from Sharon south to dead end
10
Honey Locust from Northome north
10
LEEWRIGHT
Red Maple
32
LELO COURT
Marshall Green Ash
2,5
LESLIE
Miscellaneous
8
LEXINGTON
Norway Maple
13
LINK
Miscellaneous
32
LINCOLNSHIRE
Sunburst Locust
16
LOCKDALE
Miscellaneous
17
LOIS LANE
Miscellaneous
22, 27
LONE ELM
Norway Maple
11
Mis eel laneous
12
Marshall Green Ash
15
LEEMOOR
.
Section
ONG CREST
LOS PALMOS
�MASTER STREET
CONTINUED
L
Street
LOUISE
~ ~
Norway Maple
~
25
M
MACAULEY
Miscellaneous
34
MACBETH
Miscellaneous
20
MADA
l1iscel laneous
34
MADISON
Norway Maple
12
MAGNOLIA
London Plane from Evergreen to Stahelin
35
Norway Maple from Southfield west to dead end
35
Norway Maple from Southfield to Northwestern
36
MAHON
Miscellaneous
34, 35
MAITROTT
Miscellaneous
18
MAPLERIDGE
Miscellaneous from 9 Mile north to Northwestern
26
Miscellaneous from 9 Mile south to Hazelhurst
35
Red Maple from 8 Mile north to dead end
35
MAPLEWOOD
Mis ce 11 aneous
31
MARGATE
Mis eel laneous
24
MARIMOOR
Honey Locust
10
MARSHALL
Honey Locust from 11 Mile to San Quentin
13
•
Red Maple from Catalpa to 13 Mile
MARTHA WASHINGTON
Honey Locust
26
MARYLAND
Honey Locust from Lathrup to Templar
25
Norway Maple from Stratford to 10 Mile
25
Honey Locust from Southfield west to dead end
26
McCALL
Miscellaneous
21
McALLISTER
Miscellaneous
McCLUNG
Norway Maple from Southfield east to dead end
Marshall Green Ash
25 .
20, 29
27
�MASTER STREET
Street
~
PLAN CONTINUED
M
Section
McDONNELL
Marshall Green Ash
11
MEADOWLANE
Honey Locust
10
MEADOWLARK
Miscellaneous
22
MEADOWOOD
Miscellaneous
24
MELROSE
Norway Maple from Lahser to Prescott
34
Norway Haple from Evergreen to Southfield
35
Norway Maple, from Southfield to Northwestern
36
Miscellaneous from Prescott to Evergreen
34
MERRILL
Marshall Green Ash
25
MIDDLESEX
Miscellaneous
23
MIDWAY
Miscellaneous from Lahser to Evergreen
34
Hiscellaneous from Evergreen to Greenview
35
Honey Locust from Greenview to Southfield
35
MILLARD
Miscellaneous
33
MONT~
Marshall Green Ash
15
MORRISON
Norway Maple
12
MOUNT VERNON
Marshall Green Ash
25, 26
MUERLAND
·Miscellaneous
20
MULBERRY
Miscellaneous
219 28
MULBERRY COURT
Miscellaneous
28
MULROY
Miscellaneous
21
MURRAY CRESCENT
Miscellaneous from Lahser to 12 Mile
10
Marshall Green Ash from 12 Hile to San Carlos
15
Miscellaneous
33
Miscellaneous from Hazelhurst to Greenview
35
Red Oak from Greenview to Southfield
35
Norway Maple
12
·A ;.u;::i:
MURWOOD
NADORA
�MASTER
STREET TREE PLAN
Street
CONTINUED
N
NANCY
Miscellaneous
32
NANTUCKET COURT
Marshall Green Ash
15
NANTUCKET
Marshall Green Ash
15
NEGAUNEE
Marshall Green Ash
31
NEW HAMPSHIRE
Marshall Green Ash from Southfield east to dead end
25
Norway Maple west of Pierce to dead end
25
Norway Maple from Maryland to George Washington
25
Norway Maple from Harden Circle west to dead end
25
Honey Locust from Southfield to Martha Washington
26
NEWPORT
Miscellaneous
35
NINE MILE
Kwansan Cherry
NOEL
Miscellaneous
26
NORBORNE
Marshall Green Ash
31
NORCREST
Miscellaneous
33
NORMANDALE
Miscellaneous
10
NORTHBROOK COURT
Marshall Green Ash
11
NORTHBROOK
Marshall Green L\sh
11
NORTH CAROLINA
Norway Maple
26
NORTHGATE
Norway Maple
11
NORTHLAND
Norway Mapla from Southfield to Rutland
36
Kwansan Cherry from 8 Mile to Northwestern
36
NEW JERSEY
25, 26, 27, 2~ 29, 30
NORTHLAND PARK CT. Norway Maple
36
NORTHOME
Honey Locust
10
NORTH PARK DRIVE
Kwansan Cherry
36
NORTHWESTERN HWY.
Norway Map le
NORWOOD N
Miscellaneous
& S & W
•
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7, 17, 217 22. 26
27 .
�MASTER STREET TREE PLAN CONTINUED
Street
0
Section
OAK.CREST
Pin Oak
24
OAK GLEN
Miscellaneous
30
OLDHAM ROAD
Miscellaneous
22
OLD STREAM CIRCLE
Marshall Green Ash
11
OLD STREAM COURT
Marshall Green Ash
11
OLD STREAM
Marshall Green Ash
11
OLIVER
Miscellaneous
28
ONYX
Marshall Green Ash
23
ORCHARD GROVE
Miscellaneous
20
ORLANDO
Miscellaneous
34
O~~OND
Miscellaneous
19
OUTWOOD
Miscellaneous
30
p
PARK LANE
Honey Locust
12
PARSONS
Red Maple
23
PAUL REVERE
Honey Locust
15
PEBBLE BROOK
Miscellaneous
18
PEBBLES TONE
Miscellaneous
18
PEEKSKILL
Miscellaneous
19
PENNSYLVANIA
Marshall Green Ash from Lathrup to Greenfield
25
Honey Locust from Mount Vernon to Martha Washington
26
PHILIP
Miscellaneous
26
PIERCE
Norway Maple from 12 Mile to Webster
12
Norway Maple from 11 Mile to 12 Mile
13
Norway Maple from Mount Vernon to Sherfield
25, 24
Norway Maple from Melrose to Northwestern
36
Miscellaneous from Webster to 13 Mile
12
Kwansan Cherry
10
•
PINETREE
�MASTER STREET TREE PLAN CONTINUED
p
Street
~
33
PLATTSBURG
Mis ce 11 aneous
PLEASANT TRAIL
Norway Maple
11
PLUMBROOKE
Norway Map le
27
PLUM HOLLOW
Miscellaneous
28
PLUMRIDGE
Miscellaneous
29
POINCIANA
Red Maple
31
PONTCHARTRAIN
Sunburst Locust
16
POTOMAC
Norway Maple from Shenandoah east to dead end
15
Honey Locust from Lahser to Valley Forge
15
PRAIRIE
Honey Locust
24
PRESCOTT
Mis eel laneous
34
PRESTWICK
Norway Maple
10
PROSPER
Red Maple
32
PROVIDENCE
Kw ans an Cherry
25, 26
R
Pin Oak from 10 Mile to Filmore
23
Miscellaneous from 11 Mile south to dead end
23
RAMBLING
Norway Maple
11
RANCH HILL
Miscellaneous
28
RANCHWOOD
Norway Map le
15
RANGEMORE
Miscellaneous
30
RAVINES
Miscellaneous
19
RED LEAF
12
RED MAPLE COURT
Marshall Green Ash from 12 Mile to Lexington
Norway Map le
Red Maple
RED MA.l'LE LANE
Red
RED RIVER
Red Maple from 10 Mile to Filmore
23
Miscellaneous from 11 Mile south to dead end
23
Marshall Green Ash from 10 Mile to Northwestern
26
RACKHAM
Maple
13
11
11
�MAST!a: STREET TREE PLAN CONTINUED
Street
R
Section
REDWOOD
Marshall Green Ash
13
REDWOOD COURT
Marshall Green Ash
13
REVERE
Honey Locust
12
RICHARD
Norway Maple
25
RIDGECLIFF
Norway Maple
24
RINEHART
Miscellaneous
17
RIVER CREST
Miscellaneous
16
RIVERDALE
Miscellaneous
31
RIVER HEIGHTS
Miscellaneous
28
ROBERT
Norway Maple
25
ROCKINGHAM
Sugar Maple
29
ROCK CREEK
Norway Map 1e
11
ROSELAND
Marshall Green Ash
1:\ 15
ROSEMOND
Miscellaneous
7
ROUGE COURT
Miscellaneous
31
ROUGE CREST
Miscellaneous
30
ROUGEMONT
Miscellaneous
31
ROUGEWOOD
Miscellaneous
31
ROXBURY
Marshall Green Ash
36
RUSSELL
Pin Oak
27
RUTLAND
Norway Maple
25 "3(3
Norway Maple
12
RUTHERLAND N
& E
.§.
•
SAMOSET
Miscellaneous
30
SAN CARLOS
Marshall Green Ash
15
SAN MARINO
His cellaneous
18
SAN QUENTIN
Marshall Green Ash
13
�UA5_TIIB STRE.Jll TREE !LAN CONTINUED
s
Street
SAN ROSA
Section
Honey Locust from Stuart to Greenfield
13
Marshall Green Ash from Spring Arbor west to dead end
13
Norway Maple from 10 Mile to Northwestern
26
Red Oak from 10 Mile to Filmore
23
Sugar Maple from Telegraph west to dead end
32
Miscellaneous from Telegraph to Berg
33
SAXTON
Miscellaneous
35
SECLUDED LANE
Crimson King Maple
34
SEDALIA
Red Maple
31
SELKIRK
Norway Maple
13
SEMINOLE
Honey Locust
31
SHAGBARK
Norway Maple
13
SHARIDALE
Mis eel laneous
7
SHARON LANE
Norway Maple
10
SHELLEY
Schwedler Maple
25
SHENANDOAH
Norway Maple
15
SHERFIELD
Honey Locust from Lathrup to Woodvilla
24
Norway Maple from Woodvilla to Kingshire
24
SHERMAN
Miscellaneous
33
SHERVILLA
Honey Locust
24
SHEVINGTON
Sunburst Locust
16
SHIAWASSEE
Sugar Maple
31, 32
SHOREHAM
Norway Maple
11
SILVERCREST
Miscellaneous
35
SILVER MAPLE
Red Maple
25
SIL VER SPRING
Norway Maple
11
SIM1-10NS
Mis eel laneous
20
SANTA BARBARA
SARGENT
�MASTER STREET TREE _!:LAN CONTINUED
s
Street
•
.
Section
SOMERSET
Honey Locust
11
SOUTHFIELD ROAD
Honey Locust
11 - 35
SOUTHGATE
Norway Maple
11
SOUTHOME
Norway Map le
10
SOUTHWOOD
Red Maple
24
SPRING ARBOR
Mars hall Green Ash
13
SPRING HILL LANE
Norway Maple
11
SPRING HILL
Norway Maple
11
SPRING LEAF
Norway Maple
11
SPRING RIVER
Norway Maple
11
STAHELIN
Pin Oak
35
STARLANE
Mis eel laneous
35
STAUNTON
Miscellaneous
30
STONY CROFT
Miscellaneous
21
STRATFORD
Red Maple from Southfield east to dead end
25
Marshall Green Ash from Greenfield west to dead end
26
STRAWBERRY
Miscellaneous
21
STREAMWOOD
Miscellaneous
16
STELLAMAR
Honey Locust
10
STUART
Norway Maµle
13
SUNNYBROOK
Norway Maple
13
SUNNYPOINT
Miscellaneous
29
SUTHERLAND
Red Maple from Catalpa to 12 Mile
13
Crimson King Maple from 11 Mile to Catalpa
13
Miscellaneous
20
SWANSON
�MASTER STREET TREE
Street ·
~
CONTINUED
T
Section
TAMARACK TRAIL
Miscellaneous
27
TAMARACK CIRCLE
Miscellaneous
27
TAPERT
Norway Maple from Fontana to Larkmoor
15
Miscellaneous from 8 Mile to Westhampton
34
Crimson King Maple from Secluded Valley to Midway
34
TAVISTOCK
Miscellaneous
16
TEACUP COURT
Schwedler Maple
26
TELEGRAPH ROAD
Honey Locust
8 -
TEMPLAR
Honey Locust
25
10 1/2 MILE
Pin Oak
TEN MILE
Norway Maple from Evergreen to Inkster
19 - 22
Norway Maple alternating with Marshall Green Ash Evergreen to
Greenfield
23, 24
THIRTEEN MILE
Norway Maple
11,
THORN CLIFFE
Miscellaneous
30
THORNDYKE
Little Leaf Linden
29
THORNWOOD
Norway Maple
15
TIMBERLINE
Miscellaneous
30
TIOGA
Miscellaneous
29
TITUS
Miscellaneous
10
Miscellaneous
15
TWELVE MILE
Honey Locust
7 - 12
TWINING DRIVE
Little Leaf Linden
26
TWYCKINGHAM
Miscellaneous
16
TYLER
Mis eel laneous
18
TULLER N
&
S
32
21~ 22, 24
V
VALLEY CREST
Miscellaneous
16
VALLEY FORGE
Honey Locust
15
•
�11ASTER STREET TREE PLAN CONTINUED
Street
V
Section
VALLEY VIEW
Miscellaneous
28
VAN BUREN
Norway Map le
31
VENTURA
Norway Maple
12
VERMONT
Marshall Green Ash
15
VERNON
Miscellaneous
10
VICTORIA
Miscellaneous
34
VIRGINIA
Honey Locust
15
w
~
WAKENDON
Marshall Green Ash
31
WAKEFIELD
Miscellaneous
22
WALLACE
Miscellaneous
34
WAYCROSS
Miscellaneous
19
WAYCROSS COURT
Miscellaneous
30
WAYLAND
Norway Maple
15
WEBSTER
Honey Locust from Greenfield west to dead end
12
Norway Maple from Southfield to Spring River
11
WENDY
Honey Locust
25
WESTBROOK
Norway Maple
11
WESTHAMPTON
Miscellaneous from Evergreen west to dead end
34
Norway Maple from Southfield west to dead end
35
Norway Maple from Westland to Westland
36
Miscellaneous from Evergreen west to dead end
34
Norway Maple from Southfield west to dead end
35
Honey Locust east & west from Southfield to dead ends
35, 36
Miscellaneous from Evergreen west to Prescott
34
Miscellaneous from Evergreen west to Prescott
34
Norway Maple from Southfield west to dead end
35
Norway Maple from Westhampton to Rutland
36
WESTHAVEN
WESTLAND
•
WESTOVER
�MASTER STREET TREE PLAN CONTINUED
w
Street
Section
WESTPOINT
Norway Maple
1.5
WILDBROOK
Miscellaneous
9
WILDHERN COURT
Marshall Green Ash
11
WILDHERN
Norway Maple
10
WILFORD
Miscellaneous
34
WILHEUI
Miscellaneous
18
WILLOWICK COURT
Norway Maple
10
WILLOWICK DRIVE
Norway Maple
10
WILTSHIRE
Honey Locust from Red Leaf to Greenfield
13
Marshall Green Ash from Red Leaf west to dead end
13
WINCHESTER
Norway Maple
15
WINK
Honey Locust
10
WINORA
Norway Maple
36
WINTERSET
Honey Locust
11
WOODBURN
Miscellaneous
34
WOODCREST COURT
Honey Locust
10
WOODGATE
Norway Map le
11
WOODGATE LANE
Crimson King Maple
11
WOODHAVEN
Honey Locust
10
WOODLAND
Miscellaneous
9
WOODSTOCK
Marshall Green Ash
12
WOODVILLA
American Hop Hornbeam
24
WOODWILL
Miscellaneous
35
WREXFORD
Miscellaneous
30
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�John Grace Revitalization Plan
Adopted - '.\farch 21, 2022
ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS
CI'IY COUNCIL &
ADMINISTRATION
Linnie Taylor
Co11 cil r, ,· ltw
Michael Mandelbaum
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Nancy Banks
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Daniel Brightwell
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Llovd Crews
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Mvron Frasier
( ;1m,·i 1mm,
Jason Hoskins
C11,11 ·il1·w•1
Kenson Sh-er
M11yor
PLANNING
COMl\HSSION
Dr. Geralyn Stephens-Gunn
·1 , 17- •rs ,
Terry Croad, AICP, ASLA
Anthony Martin
Vi Cl i-,
Jeff Spence
Robert Willis
Sarah Mulally
t ·. ant ('itt/ Plmme1·
':, <-''t!I
l
Donald Culpepper
Jeremy Griffis
ni "'t 11 ,f f'lc
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SOUfHFIELD HOUSING
COMMISSION
l'iW £1/1
Rita Hillman
Earlene Traylor Neal
Adrienne Zeigler
Irv Lowen berg
C'i ti/ 1'1 (1.~lll'l>r
Fredrick Zorn
LOCKWOOD
COMPANIES
Dawn King
City, IC, n y
City of Southfield John Grace Revitalization Plan - Adopted
~!Jrrh 21. 20:.:2
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Gage Belko
ENGINEERING
DEPARTMEJ'li'T
Lora Brantley-Gilbert
r
"'ity l'la1111er
Steve Huntington
Sherikia Hawkins
Ci·y C'lr•rk
Frederick E. Zorn Jr., CEcD
City Ad:i ini,; ·a/or
PLANNING
DEPARMTMENT
Leigh Schultz
'I'
Steve Gogola
(IS(
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�CONTENTS
INTRODUCTION
2
EXECUTIVE SUMMARY
3
BACKGROUND
4
History of John Grace School
4
Conte.'.\.1:
8
Demographics
9
PROJECT SIGNIFICANCE
Housing
'on-Motorized Access
Transit Senices
APPENDICES
LIST OF FIGURES (pg)
AppendixB:
RUDDRe,icw
AppendixC:
Lockwood Documents
12
AppendixD:
MSHDA Guidelines
12
AppendixE:
13
59
Appendix A:
Resolutions
201"'·2022 Building Permits
19
Green Infrastructure
26
Healthy Lhing
26
Senior Support Senices
27
AREAINVFSfMENTS
33
POTENTIAL FUNDING SOURCF.s
35
REDEVELOPMENT OPTIONS
40
29
Existing Conditions
40
Public Input
41
3::
3
34
35
36
AlternatiYes
42
38
39
4C
Recommendations
54
4
4,
Approval Process
55
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INTRODUCTION
Today, most households are people living alone, both young
and old; couples or sets of unrelated individuals of various
ethnicities, ages, and tastes; growing numbers of elderty
couples and individuals requiring less dwelling space but more
living assistance; and single low-income parents struggling to
support dependent children or pemaps a dependent adult.
(Shaping the City: Seeking a new tel1"4)1ate for truly smart
growth. By Roger K. Lewis, published April 22, 2011 , The
Washington Post)
As a first ring suburb of Detroit, the City of Southfield has an
overabundance of big single-family homes on large lots and
luxury apartments (Single family detached: 16,466 units; multifamily: 18,329 units) that do not fit changing demographic
needs and desires. (2019 American Community Survey) Most
of Southfield's housing values are between $100,000 $300,000 for a two-bedroom detached home property values.
Roughly 69.8 percent of the homes in Southfield are between
$100,000 and $300,000 and only 1.78 percent of homes in
Southfield are valued above 300,000. The greatest percentage
of housing values in Southfield is concentrated between
$150,000 and $200,000. The City of Detroit does influence
market potential in Southfield, especially in the South section
of the City along Eight Mile Road , but the effect diminishes as
you move north of Eight Mile Road. Detroit's underfunded
public educational system, above average crime rates and
poverty rates, shrinking employment opportunities, and low
housing values all impact the prices of new and existing
homes in Southfield.
City of Southfield John Grace Re,italization Plan • Ad<>pl tl
According to the Southfield Assessor, housing
values have steadily increased following the postrecession low of 2013. Our 2022 Residential
Assessed Values ($2,114,241,840) have increased
roughly 6.78 percent above our 2008 high
($1,980,028,850), recovering 55.46 percent between
2018 through 2022 the last 5 years. The recovery
has remained steady from year to year, and we
have been witnessing a sellers' market with low
supply, where residential values have increased an
average 11.7 percent per year since 2018.
The mean sales price was $241,756 and median
sales price was $242,500 In the John Grace
neighborhood area between January 1, 2018 and
January 1, 2022. There have been no new
residential Tax Tribunal appeals within the John
Grace neighborhoods since the recovery
beginning in 2013, down from the all-time high of
11 during the recession period between 2008
through 2011. The percentage of owner-occupied
homes in the John Grace area has remained
relatively level as measured by the Principle
Residence Exemption (PRE) for the current year at
80.6 percent owner-occupied.
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3
�The City will also be challenged with national demographic
shifts. Aging Baby Boomers were at their peak family size and
peak income between 1990-2010. 77 percent of demand for
new housing construction was driven by this trend (The Great
Senior Sell-Off Could Cause the Next Housing Crises, by
Emily Badger, published Mar. 5, 2013, The Atlantic Cities
Place Matters).
About 25 percent of new households prefer condos and urban
townhomes (Shaping the City: Seeking a new template for
truly smart growth. By Roger K. Lewis, published April 22 ,
2011 , The Washington Post). Moreover, most young adults
and seniors prefer living in walkable neighborhoods and
sustainably designed communities characterized by diverse
land uses and a broad array of civic amenities (Shaping the
City: Seeking a new template for truly smart growth. By Roger
K. Lewis, published April 22, 2011 , The Washington Post) .
In 2020, there was around 35 million over 65 households in
the U.S. Many seniors who would like to become renters will
be trying to sell about 200,000 more owner-occupied homes
than there will be new households entering the market to buy
them. By 2030 that number could rise to 500 million. It is
predicted that many of those seniors will simply give up the
house and walk away (Shaping the City: Seeking a new
template for truly smart growth. By Roger K. Lewis, published
April 22, 2011 , The Washington Post).
In 2020, the COVID-19 pandemic changed how we live, work,
and socialize and we have yet to see the full economic and
social impacts. With the rise of mrking from home, inflation,
and housing precarity for vulnerable groups, ensuring a good
quality of life in the areas that people live has become
increasingly important
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The former John Grace School and Community Center,
located at 2130 Indian Street, is being considered for adaptive
re-use for affordable senior housing. The City, in cooperation
with the Planning Department and Planning Commission , is
looking at the feasibility of renovating the historic building ,
reconfiguring the site, and making public improvements near
the subject property.
In early 2022, the City began considering rezoning the
property as a Residential Unit Development District (RUDD) .
The RUDD option amendment to the zoning ordinance was
adopted on May 30, 2019, with the aim of promoting adaptive
reuse and preservation of former school buildings and sites.
This is done by providing enhanced housing and recreatio, 1al
opportunities and ensuring the compatibility of design and
uses between neighborhood properties. The John Grace site
is one of several that had been designated as possible future
RUDD sites within the city. John Grace Arms, a multifamily
development proposal by Lockwood Companies, is now in the
review process and, if approved , would provide approximately
60 affordable housing units in addition to a 0.62-acre public
park and indoor community space available for reservation .
Seen as a transition from the single-family neighborhoods to
the north into the more intensely developed areas along Eight
Mile Road and Grand River Avenue to the south, the
improvements are likely to activate continued investment from
the City, businesses, and neighbors.
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BACKGROUND
History of John Grace School
Researched and written by Mayor Kenson J. Siver
The Grace Family were early settlers in Southfield and
Farmington townships. However, the family's presence in
America predated the Revolutionary War and had originally
moved to Michigan from Massachusetts sometime before 1850.
John Morris Grace was born on October 5, 1866, on
Shiawassee Street in Southfield Township, the son of Darius
and Laura Grace. John's only sibling , sister Olive, was 13 years
older. His ear1y years were spent working on the family farm.
After marrying Sarah Graham in 1888, he continued working on
the farm.
John's interest in farming seemed to fade after the death of his
mother in 1899 and his father in 1901 . In 1902, he and wife
Sarah moved to California but returned to the family farm a few
years later. At some point the Graces began subdividing the
family farm, selling lots for single family homes. Detroit's
population had been doubling every decade. Land for housing
and small businesses was cheaper in the outlying townships.
The 1920 Census records John as working as a mechanic in a
motor factory. He was also known to work in building and
contracting. The 1930 Census lists him as retired. With
proceeds from the sale of the family farm, John dabbled in real
estate. He purchased property in Farmington , Livonia and
Redford townships. He and Sarah were well-off in their
retirement.
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As more people were settling in the southwest comer of
Southfield Township, Southfield Township School District 9
needed to expand. It had outgrown the one-room, wooden
schoolhouse on Beech Road, south of Nine Mile Road. District
9's boundaries were Inkster Road to the west; Telegraph Road
to the east; Eight Mile to the south ; and a jagged line roughly a
half mile north of Nine Mile Road for its northern boundary.
Typically, township school districts encompassed three square
miles in what INOUld be accessible on foot or horse back.
The earliest records for District 9 date back to 1864. However,
it is believed that the district was in existence before that. At
the time, local school districts were governed by a threemember school board which primarily set the school budget and
hired a teacher.
John M. Grace donated the land on Indian Street for a new
school building . In gratitude, the new school was named for
him. A large photograph of John M. Grace hung in the school
hallway for many years.
The first section of John Grace School on Indian Street was
built in 1921 . The building would be viewed as entering a new,
modem era in education for the area. Built with block and brick,
it consisted of two finished and two unfinished classrooms. In
1926, the second story of the school was added with four
additional classrooms. At this time, John Grace became a
•graded school,• meaning that the children were educated by
grade levels. (Ungraded schools had children of all ages in one
room.)
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�leader, counselor, coach and faculty mentor. He and his wife
Ruth and daughter Nancy lived up the road from John Grace
School on Indian Street.
He worked extremely hard to give the neighborhood's children a
very rich educational experience. John Grace School had
sports teams (baseball and basketball for boys and gir1s), Cub
Scouts, Boy Scouts, Gir1s Scouts and Brownies, a 4-H Club,
school newspaper, glee club, drama club, safety patrol , a
school library, lunch program, teen dances, etc. While this may
not seem extraordinary, at that time it was. Most rural township
schools did not offer much beyond the basics. Levey created
more than a school; he created a community center. Under his
leadership, John Grace School became the anchor of the
neighborhood.
Levey was a strong advocate for health education and child
guidance. For a time, he served as the treasurer of the
Oakland County Public Health Association. He arranged for a
volunteer school nurse (a resident of the neighborhood) to
serve the school. He took children to the Oakland County Free
Dental Clinic in Pontiac and arranged for vaccinations for
neighborhood youth.
The driving force behind the further development of John Grace
School was Glenn Levey (1896-1961). Born in Elsie, Michigan,
a small, farming town 35 miles northeast of Lansing , Levey left
the farm and enlisted in the army. He served in the 801 st Aero
Squadron and was sent to the battle lines in France.
At the conclusion of World War I, Levey became an educator
and pursued a life of community service. He earned a BA
degree from Western Michigan College and returned to Elsie for
eight years as a grade schoolteacher. In 1932, Levey earned a
master's degree in sociology from the University of Michigan
and was hired to teach at John Grace Standard School in
Southfield Township.
A year later, Levey was appointed Southfield District 9
superintendent of schools. He was a teaching superintendent
yet wore many other hats to keep John Grace School going and
the community thriving. Besides teaching science, he was the
school bus driver, newsletter editor, activities director, boy scout
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Levey held workshops for parents and conducted teacher
training. He closed the school on days when State Teacher
Conferences were held so his teachers could attend. He
purchased professional journals for his staff. He pushed his
students to go to high school and arranged for many to attend
Redford Union High School. He added the ninth grade to the
John Grace School to get the kids started on a high school
education. To make sure kids got to school, he bought a bus.
He and the custodian Alvin Westbrook served as the bus driver.
And he arranged for any number of field trips for the students.
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Wrth enrollment growing, and his desire to add more
programming , Levey led the effort to enlarge the school in
1942. After the addition (two classrooms and a kitchen)
opened , he hired a kindergarten teacher who taught half day
kindergarten and then art and music the other half of the day.
The addition had stretched the school budget There was no
money for landscaping, so Levey arranged for donations of
topsoil, grass seed , bushes and fencing and then got volunteers
to help him do the work. He even had volunteers picking the
stones out of the topsoil!
the small township school districts Into what became the
Southfield Public Schools in 1947. He wanted Southfield to
have its own high school. After consolidation he was appointed
Assistant Superintendent of the new school district but
continued to live at 21730 Indian Street.
Glenn Levey was born in Elsie, Michigan. He
served in the United States Army during World
War I. He held a Bachelor of Arts degree from
Western Michigan University and a Master's
degree from the University of Michigan. He and
his wife had one daughter, Nancy Ann. They lived
up the street from the school on Indian Avenue.
Glenn and Ruth were very much a part of the
neighborhood. In later years, he was active in the
Southfield Kiwanis Club and the Oakland County
School Business Officials Association.
A veteran of the First World War, Levey was very patriotic.
During Wor1d War II he organized recycling drives for tin and
scrap paper, sales of war bonds and was part of the local civil
defense unil Levey added a civics class to the school. In the
fall, he and his wife Ruth held canning bees of local fruits and
vegetables to supplement the school lunch program. John
Grace was, if not the only township school or one of the few
around, to have a school lunch program.
He organized community events including clean-up day at the
school, movie nights, heavily supported the John Grace PTA
and its activities. The school held concerts and neighborhood
Christmas and Halloween parties.
When the well went bad, he lobbied (unsuccessfully) the federal
government for funds to bring Detroit water up from Eight Mile
Road. He also worked with township officials to bring a city
water system to the John Grace Neighborhood. In the
meantime, he had the five-member John Grace School Board
purchase water for the school.
Levey realized that if education were to improve in Southfield
Township, school consolidation had to occur. Consolidation
would mean the loss of his position as Superintendent of
Southfield Township District #9 and his control over John Grace
School. Starting in 1942, he joined with others to consolidate
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Teacher Helen Rendle succeeded him, serving as John Grace
principal from 1947 to 1972. Robert Nelson served as principal
from 1972-1980.
Wrth the creation of the consolidated school district, John Grac.e
lost its ninth grade program as ninth grade was not offered at
the other former township schools. As Southfield's population
grew, grades seven and eight would be inc:orporated into junior
high schools. John Grace then became a K-6 elementary
school.
John Grace School was expanded several times after becoming
part of the Southfield School District. Additions to the school
were made in 1949, 1953, 1958 and 1962. The 1958 addition
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Glenn Levey served as Assistant Superintendent of Southfield
Public Schools until his death in 1961 . In honor of his
outstanding service to the community, in 1964, the new junior
high school on Nine Mile Road was named in his honor.
John M. Grace remained in the area after selling off the family
farm. He lived at 20758 Inkster Road until his death in 1946.
Wife Sarah had died in 1942.
included a multipurpose room and kitchen. Enrollment at the
school peaked in 1965 with 420 students. By 1980, enrollment
had declined to 202 students.
Due to declining enrollment in the Southfield Public Schools,
John Grace School was closed in 1980. John Grace students
were sent to MacArthur School. The building sat vacant for five
years before the building was transferred to the City of
Southfield . Driven by neighborhood activism, a community
center was created with parks and rec programming, a branch
library, senior citizens activities and the Southfield Career
Center. As the as years passed support for these programs
waned while c.osts steadily escalated.
The Southfield Career Center/Michigan Works office was the
last tenant in the building. The Career Center moved to the
campus of Lawrence Technological University in 2018 . John
Grace closed that Years.
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Context
Location and Surrounding Uses
The subject site is located in the southwestern portion of the
City of Southfield, approximately 1.65 miles west of Telegraph
Road and 0.12 miles north of Eight Mile Road in Section 31 of
the City.
for continued growth and recovery. Importantly, the MSA has
experienced growth over the last six years, several of which
outpaced the nation. The MSA along with the rest of the country
experienced an economic contraction during the COVID-19
pandemic. Long-term economic impacts will continue through
the2020 's.
The immediate neighborhood consists of commercial uses,
public uses, and single-family homes. Residential uses in the
subject neighborhood are generally in poor to average
condition. Several retail properties are located directly south of
the subject site, including several automotive repair shops;
Exxon gas; Southfield Family Sauna & Tub; Mulligans Pub; and
other local businesses.
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Commercial uses in Southfield are generally 70-80 percent
occupied . Walk Score designates the subject site as "Car
Dependent" with a walk score of 34 and a bike score of 39 ,
indicating most errands requ ire a car. The surrounding housing
stock in the subject's neighborhood , consisting of single-family
homes, appear to have been constructed prior to 1979 and are
in poor to average condition. According to Zillow, the current
median listing price for a home in the subject's zip code is
approximately $137,000. Beaumont Hospital is located 0.9
miles from the subject site. If offers 330 acute care beds and a
level II trauma center. Beaumont Hospital offers a large range
of services including emergency medicine, family practice,
internal medicine , and general surgery.
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Economy
The MSA was significantly affected by the national recession.
Although , between 2015-2017 large employment losses were
recovered in the MSA. However, the MSA has not surpassed
pre-recession employment levels. The increasing presence of
the healthcare/social assistance sector in the PMA bodes well
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�Demographics
From Pyramid to Pillar:
A Century of Change
Local, State, and National Trends on Aging
The U.S. is steadily moving from a pyramid to a pillar in terms
of the age-sex ratio over the next few decades (Figure 4) . There
will be fewer young people, more old people. and nearty all age
cohorts will be the same size . In less than two decades, older
adults are projected to outnumber kids for the first time in
U.S. history.
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Already, the middle-aged outnumber children and people are
living longer lives (Figure 5), but the country will reach a new
milestone in 2035. at which point the U.S. Census Bureau
projects that older adults will outnumber children in population
size. Michigan could reach this point nearly a decade sooner if
current trends continue. (Mark A. Wyckoff, Planning & Zoning
News, June 2018) . People aged 65 and over are expected to
number 78.0 million , while children under age 18 will number
76.4 million.
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Higher fertility and immigration have helped stave off an aging
population and the country has remained younger as a result.
But those trends are changing. Americans are having fewer
children and the baby boom of the 1950s and 1960s has yet to
be repeated, leaving a country that is aging faster.
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Now, Boomers will expand the number of older adults as they
age. Starting in 2030, when all Boomers will be older than 65,
Although declining fertility plays a role, the driving force behind
America's aging is the Baby Boomer generation. As one of the
largest generations in the country, Boomers leave a substantial
imprint on the population. They swelled the ranks of the young
when they were born and then the workforce as they entered
adulthood .
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older Americans will make up 21 percent of the population, up
from 16 percent today. By 2060, near1y one in four Americans
will be 65 years or older, the number of 85-plus individuals will
triple, and the country will add a half million centenarians. With
this swelling number of older adults, the country could see
greater demands for healthcare, in-home caregiving , and
assisted living facilities. It could also affect Social Security.
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We proJeci three-and-a-half working-age adults for every older
person eligible for Social Security in 2020. By 2060 , that
number is expected to fall to two-and-a-half working-age adults
for every older person. In addition to an aging population,
people born in Michigan tend to stay in Michigan. In 2012 , the
American Association of Retired Persons (MRP) found that
76.7 percent of Michigan residents were born in Michigan {the
state of their current residence.) Only Louisiana had more at
78.7 percent. (Source: Marl< A Wyckoff, Planning & Zoning
News. June 2018)
Aging Workforce
Data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics show that the
employment-population ratio of persons aged 65 and over has
risen from approximately 12 percent in the mid-1990s to over
18 percent in 2015 and 2016.
•statistics from the Longitudinal Employer-Household Dynamics
(LEHO) program at the Census Bureau show that not only are
older persons working more, but these older workers are also
earning more than in previous years• said James Spletzer,
Principal Economist at the Center for Economic Studies.
"Inflation-adjusted average monthly earnings of persons aged
65 and older were $4,092 in 2015 , which is substantially higher
than the $2,276 statistic in 1994."
This growth of average earnings of older workers is greater
than the growth of average earnings of other age groups. As
noted eartier, the average earnings of persons aged 65 and
older exhibits 80 percent growth during that time. This growth,
both in levels and in percentage terms, is substantially higher
than any other age group. (Source: Erika McEntarfer, head of
research for the LEHO program at the Center for Economic
Studies (CESJ at the U. S Census Bureau.)
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Figure 5: 2000 Census Age Analysis
As a result of the pandemic, many businesses have
experienced a prolonged increase of employees leaving their
jobs. otherwise known as the "Great Resignation ." This
potentially means more employment opportunities available for
seniors as businesses look to fill critical gaps in service.
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The age distribution of the City's residents has been slowly
changing (see Figure 6). The aging of the Baby Boomer
generation greatly impacts the community's age distribution
over time. This effect is seen by the increases in the 35-64
age bracket. The share of residents in the 35-64 age group
is forecasted to decline significantly as the baby boomer
generation advances into the 65+ group. The result of this
expected shift is a population that will be more equally
distributed across the age categories.
The average household size in the City of Southfield has
continued to shrink: 3.46 (1960) vs. 2.02 (2019 ACS 1-Year
Estimates). As a result of similar national trends, for the first
time in U.S. history, older adults are projected to
outnumber children by 20351
Southfield already has a higher proportion of residents in the
65+ age group than Oakland County, Metro Detroit, and the
State of Michigan, as seen in Figure 7. This number will only
increase with time, and although this age bracket generally
requires costly public services and other related care,
seniors provide a community with a stable income, albeit
reduced, from monthly social security payments and
pensions not subject to employment variations of the regular
economy. As this growth occurs, the city must adapt by
providing services and housing options to meet their
changing needs.
Figure 6: Southfield Age Distribution, 2010-2040
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Figure 7: Retirement Population, 2019
(Ages 65+)
Community
Southfield
Oakland County
Metro Detroit
Michigan
2010
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13.8%
2019
21.4%
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Source: American Community Survey, 2010ANo20191-YearEstimates
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PROJECT SIGNIFICANCE
Housing
Providing appropriate senior housing options is increasingly
important as the general population ages. Fewer financial
resources are available to older residents, as such, they need
affordable options that are safe, attractive, and stimulating.
According to MSHDA, census tract 1625, where the
project site is located, is 30.6 percent housing
overburdened, meaning nearly one-third of households in
the census tract are experiencing unaffordable housing.
Many seniors live in established neighborhoods, and some
find their financial resources strained over time, leaving them
to struggle to maintain their homes, or worse, to heat them or
pay their mortgage at all. Other seniors choose to live in
multiple-unit complexes or in assisted living facilities.
According to the Sustainable Southfield Plan (adopted April
2016), the city should ensure local ordinances provide for the
retention and development of a variety of housing options,
including:
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Accessory dwelling units are converted or constructed
accessory structures such as garages or small
homes/sheds that can be occupied . These will be in
addition to primary structures on the lot and can include
"mother-in-law apartments• and "granny flats"
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Assisted living is like apartment style units, but they
maintain on-site services for residents, including
medical assistance, food service, housekeeping,
recreation , and sometimes even limited retail or bank
services. In many ways, these developments provide a
community within itself where residents are active but
prefer some assistance due to health reasons or when
family members live far away.
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Institutional options are also important in the later
stages of life. Most residents needing full-time care
prefer not to move far distances, as this can cause
mental stress and trauma. Allowing residents to stay in
their home community is important when the decision is
made to move to an institutional facility
Independent living options include ranch-style, singlefamily detached, or attached units that are small and
low in purchase price and maintenance costs. Often
these developments offer community amenities, such
as walking trails or fitness centers, which support the
active lifestyle of early retirees.
Repurpose and adaptively reuse closed and
vacant school buildings and sites. Coordination
between the City and the Southfield Public
School administration is key to come up with
appropriate and context-sensitive redevelopment
plans, including housing options, for closed and
vacant school buildings and sites.
Apartment style units are also desired for the
independence they offer but are even more affordable.
In this setting , residents are often closer to local
shopping and services, which can be especially helpful
to residents with mobility issues or those who no longer
drive.
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�the non-motorized network that appears in Southfield's 2019
Non-Motorized Asset Management Plan. During inventory, the
facilities closest to the project site were in "Poor" or "Fair"
condition , however, recent improvements along Beech Road
and future improvements along Shiawassee Road will bring
many of the nearby facilities up to "Good" condition .
Non-Motorized Access
One of the greatest health risks facing Michigan is obesity.
Michig~n has the 10lh highest adult obesity rate in the nation,
according to The State of Obesity: Better Policies for a Healthier
America released August 2017 (Source:
https;//stateofobesity.orglstates/mi). Easily accessible sidewalks
and shared-use pathways will encourage seniors to use them
and help them maintain active lifestyles at little or no cost.
•walkable Communities - those where it is easy and
safe to get around by foot- have become popular
travel destinations and sought-after places to live
and work ... They provide attractive sidewalks or
paths designated for walking. Second, they prioritize
the needs of pedestrians and make walking,
bicycling, and using public transportation not only
possible but also enticing and safe. Finally, places
where people need to be are located within easy
walking distance from one another.
Currently, there is no continuous sidewalk system in place along
the length of Indian Street, only directly in front of and adjacent
to the John Grace property. However, City Administration is
considering installing approximately 950 linear feet of sidewalks
from John Grace north to Shiawassee Road and 415 linear feet
of sidewalk from John Grace to Eight Mile Road . Since 2011 ,
over 25 miles of new sidewalks and bike paths have been added
to ~e network (Figure 10). Future improvements along
Shiawassee Road will include concrete re-pavement from
Inkster Road to Eight Mile Road and the construction of an afoot-wide asphalt shared-use pathway along the south side of
the road .
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Design Guidelines for Active Michigan
Communities, 2006
According to the City of Southfield's Non-Motorized Pathway &
Public Transit Plan (adopted 3/19/2012), Indian Street has been
identified as a "Neighborhood Connector Route• and
Shiawassee Road 0.2 miles to the north has been designated as
a "Bicycle and Pedestrian Focused Corridor". An existing paved
shoulder/bike lane that intermittently ties into a 5-10 ft shareduse path is located along Shiawassee Road and connects into
the City's larger non-motorized network, v.nich can be seen in
Figure 8 below. Figure 9 shows an analysis of the conditions of
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Beech Road received a heavy rehabilitation in 2021 including
repaving , concrete patching, asphalt intersections, pedestrian
ADA crosswalk improvements, and complete signaling updates.
Some signal 1NOrk and bridge \NOrk north of Nine Mile will be
completed in spring 2022.
As a "Neighborhood Connector Route," the site acts a key
transitional space from less dense single-family neighborhoods
to the north into more intensely developed areas along Eight
Mile Road and Grand River Avenue. This also means better
regional connection to neighboring Farmington Hills and Redford
Township.
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Trails
appearance, provides safer routes for bicyclists, pedestrians,
and children going to school, and has been found to raise
property values.
Although the trails are small income generators compared to
manufacturing, health services, and other large sectors of the
local economy their impacts are concentrated in communities
dependent on trail activity and spread to other businesses in
population centers and commercial hubs of the region.
Public health Is another benefit associated with the
creation of a trail system . A recent study looking at Lincoln,
Nebraska, revealed that the annual cost per capita for using
the community's trails was $209. The per capita annual direct
medical benefit was $564 , which means that every $1
investment in trails for physical activity led to $2.94 in direct
medical benefit - a cost-benefit ratio of 2.94! Source: American
Trails, 2011 .
Economic Benefits of Trails: Outdoor recreation is a major
industry that contributes greatly to the economy through the
creation of jobs and generation of tax revenue. However, the
benefits of trails are not purely economic.
Trails and greenways have positive effects on local
communities in multiple ways.
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Exercise & Heart-Healthy Activity
Tourism
Events
Urban Redevelopment
Community Improvement
Health Care Costs
Jobs and Investment
General Consumer Spending
"Through interpretation comes understanding;
through understanding comes appreciation;
through appreciation comes stewardship."
Wayside Companion, National Park Service
Communities within close proximity to public lands with trails
benefit from these green assets. Once a trail system is
identified, volunteers and donations from local businesses
often contribute to creating and maintaining it Coordinating
the distribution of maps, signs, mar1<eting, events, and tours
helps to promote the trail system and encourage spending
throughout community's shops and restaurants.
Often listed by prospective homeovmers as an important
amenity when considering where to purchase a new home,
trails attract residents and the businesses that follow.
Adding a green trail networ1< enhances community
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Wayfinding signs provide visitors, corporate citizens and
residents' orientation and direction to help plan and enjoy their
experience. Wayfinding signs link users to key destinations
using routes appropriate for most pedestrians and bicyclists,
often providing a low traffic alternate route to a major road.
Signage can be customized to help establish diaracter for any
given neighborhood or subarea.
Wayside exhibits are a means for exploring , learning about,
enjoying , and conserving your special place, neighborhood,
par1< or community. They combine provocative text with vivid
graphics to tell a story and encourage a visitor to think about
the environment and events that happened here.
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Interpretation is more than facts or stories; it is information that
builds connections between personal interests and a place,
event, resource, or landscape. The result is a deeper sense of
history and appreciation of place, resource, or landscape. This
heightened appreciation can lead to protection and
preservation of a person's special place or thing.
Interpretation signs can include banner signs along trails,
monuments and plaques at historic destinations, etc.
Carefully planned and developed waysides can quickly draw
our attention to a place or landscape. The panels reveal
stories of past and present- encouraging us to think about
those special places, resources and events.
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Figure 11 : Wayside Interpretive Signage
Carpenter Lake Nature
Rouge River
Figure 12: Typical Wayfinding & Route Signage
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�Transit Services
Transit propensity is the likelihood of a bus stop to attract riders
based on the characteristics of the residents in the vicinity
(typically within a 0.5 mile walk to a bus route) . Transit
propensity is identified by using demographic variables to
determine the potential for persons living and working in areas
adjacent to existing bus routes to use public transit services.
A total of five demographic variables are typically selected for
determining transit propensity, bus stop locations and proposed
bus routing:
1. Density of persons (population density or persons per acre)
2. Density of occupied housing units with either O or 1 vehicle
(housing units per acre)
3. Density of seniors (persons per acre)
4. Density of persons with mobility restrictions (persons per
acre)
5. Density of households at or below the poverty level
(households per acre)
Figure 13: Southfield
Demoaraphics
Total Pooulation
Population Age 65 and
Older
Disabled Population
Total Households
Households with O or 1
Car
Families Below Poverty
Level
2010
275 Taylor/ Telegraph/ 12 Mile: Crosstown fixed Route
(operating between suburbs and connecting to main
corridor routes) from Southland Center, Southgate to
Woodward Ave. , Pontiac.
Nearest Stop: 0.75 miles away on Beech Daly Road and
Eight Mile Road
2019
Percent
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17%
15,630
20%
11 ,953
31 383
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13,791
34 836
18%
18,017
57%
20,599
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1,659
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SMART currently provides four fixed routes adjacent to the
project area. Several existing bus stops are located near the
project area (Figures 12 and 13).
305 Grand River/ Old Redford: Crosstown fixed route
from Grand River Meijer to Farmington Hills.
Nearest Stop: 0.5 miles away on Grand River Avenue
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(SMART)
SMART was established through Public Act (P.A.) 204 as the
only regional authority for public transportation in southeast
Michigan. In FY 2010 SMARrs annual ridership was
approximately 12.2 million with a service area of more than
1,200 square miles.
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805 Grand River/ Detroit/ Fannington Hills: Crossto'Ml
fixed route from Detroit to Farmington Hills.
Nearest Stop: 0.5 miles away on Grand River Avenue
375 Telegraph I Old Redford/ Amazon-Pontiac:
Crosstown fixed route from Grand River Meijer to Pontiac.
Nearest Stop: 0.75 miles away on Eight Mile Road
The Detroit Department of Transportation (DDOT) also
provides regular bus service along Eight Mile Road,
connecting residents to Detroit
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Lockwood Management Transportation
A property management representative from Lockwood
Management will provide transportation services for tenants
residing at John Grace Anns, which is located at 21030 Indian
Street, Southfield. Lockwood Management will offer a Dial-ARide program, providing transportation services from 7 a.m. to
9 p.m. Monday through Sunday. Residents will notify
Lockwood Management when they require transportation
The project sponsor hopes that MSHDA will determine the
Lockwood 15-passenger bus is a comparable transportation
solution. It will be available 7 days per week and have the
capacity to adequately serve all the tenants in the
development. Lockwood's bus will allow each tenant in the
development to take at least two trips during the week and
weekends.
services.
All transportation services are free of charge. Tenants will not
be charged for Lockwood's bus transportation services.
The destinations provided by Lockwood Management will be
located within 1O miles from John Grace Arms. Lockwood
Management will entertain appointments made outside of the
10-mile destination guideline as long as they are made in
advance and benefit the tenant's economic, cultural, health or
social outcomes.
Residents will meet at the property manager's office for
pickups and drop-offs. The manager's office is located on the
first floor of the former historic school (please see the attached
floor plan).
Additionally, upon the full occupancy of John Grace Arms, a
Lockwood representative will meet with all residents to create
a list of their transportation needs and locations. An existing
schedule has been proposed for tenants; however, this
schedule will be modified upon the input from the tenants.
We will form a Resident Service Council Committee and one
area of c.oncem will be transportation services to educate and
notify tenants of additional SMART, TOSS and PACE
transportation services.
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�TOSS (Transportation of Southfield Seniors)
Established in 1987 and managed by the City of Southfield
Parks and Recreation department, TOSS is a program that
improves accessibility to the seniors in the City of Southfield
by offering transportation to local doctor's appointments,
grocery stores, banking facilities and other personal
appointments as needed within the City. It allows Southfield
seniors that do not have their own vehicles or transportation to
live independently in their home or apartment. Nine vehicles
(including a bus, cars, and vans) comprise the TOSS fleet. Of
the nine, seven existing vehicles can accommodate
wheelchairs. All TOSS drivers have CDL's (Commercial
Drivers Licenses) and CPR & First Aid certificates.
dedicated for grocery shopping , dining-out programs and
special group requests. TOSS service hours are Mondays
through Fridays from 8:00 AM until 4 :00 PM. TOSS asks that
riders make reservations 2 weeks in advance but take
reservations as early as 4 weeks in advance. However, the
organization strives to also accommodate riders needing
service on short notice.
TOSS provides regular and specialized services to residents
of Southfield of all age groups, from children to seniors and
persons with disabilities, as well as to persons with disabilities
that attend Parks and Recreation Departrrtent
programs. Regular transportation services to and from
medical facilities within the geographical area bounded by
Fourteen Mile on the north, Eight Mile on the south, Coolidge
to the east and Middlebelt to the west. A donation of $5.00 per
round trip is suggested.
TOSS's average cost per rider (round trip) is $29.00
considering fuel, wages, insurance, etc. , but the average
donation per rider (round trip) equates to about
$1.50. Funding for TOSS is provided by SMART, Community
Development Block Grant (CDBG) funds, Providence Hospital,
Beaumont Hospital, and ridership donations.
TOSS provides approximately 9,500 round trips annually. The
City of Southfield's Parks & Recreation Department, Senior
Division , estimates that at least 250 people utilize TOSS
regularly.
Figure 17: TOSS vehicle provided by SMART.
Currently, three vehicles are on the road daily (120 hours per
week) for TOSS transportation to doctor's appointments and
dialysis. In addition, there are 20 hours a week on average
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Ride-Hailing Services
Numerous private taxi companies exist in the City of
Southfield. Service is generally "call ahead", although taxis
can sometimes be seen and flagged down for ridership. Taxi
companies are commonly headquartered in the City or nearby
cities, so drivers are usually fammar with the area.
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what their age, health, or physical ability (AARP). According to
AARP, for Americans 50+ , a livable community has:
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Affordable and appropriate housing.
A variety of transportation and mobility options.
Supportive community features and services.
Together, they make personal independence and continued
participation in the community's civic and social life possible.
Figure 18: Typical private taxi
Transit-Oriented Development (TOD)
There are opportunities within the City at several locations to
make corridors and development areas more transit friendly by
adopting Transit-Oriented Development (TOD) standards for
development. Future growth and redevelopment of
commercial employment centers within the City should
strongly consider the inclusion of a mixture of residential,
commercial, and institutional uses designed to promote
convenient non-motorized access to transit facilities and
between residential, retail, and office uses.
Ride-hailing services such as Uber or Lyft are tapping into
society's growing senior population. Both companies have
been creating partnerships with senior-centered facilities and
organizations. While requesting rides through Uber/Lyft
requires the use of a Smartphone, third-party services have
been created to allow seniors to use a standard telephone to
call for rides with the third-party service arranging for Uber or
Lyft pick-up. In addition to taxi and Uber/Lyft services,
limousine and luxury coach companies also serve the City.
The scope of the project includes an integrated senior
community, which promotes healthy living in a "livable
community". A livable community is a place 1M1ere all
residents can live and participate in their community, no matter
Figure 19: SMART Bus
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Green Infrastructure
TOD strategies support the City's goal to create a more livable
and walkable community. TOD and transit-Oriented corridors
consist of land use patterns that promote travel by transit,
bicycle, walking and ridesharing , and encourage concentration
of mixed-use development along transportation corridors
serviced by transit.
The Sustainable Southfield Plan (adopted June
20, 2016) recognizes how constructed green
infrastructure techniques play an important
role in our built environment:
Transit service is an important component of the transportation
system because it offers another transportation option for the
community and increases mobility for those who are unable to
drive. Public transit and non-motorized pathways increase the
overall capacity of the transportation system, which supports
the Plan's goal to maintain and improve the transportation
system without excessive road widening . The City's efforts in
improving the transit system should be focused on the most
cost-effective methods to increase ridership in the existing bus
systems and linking to other regional transit systems (i.e. :
Proposed Woodward Light Rail Corridor).
"The connection between constructed green
infrastructure techniques to improved water
quality, higher economic value, reduced
infrastructure costs, enhanced recreational
opportunities, and advanced social benefits is
demonstrated through numerous comparisons.
The overarching theme for achieving these
benefits starts with incrementally implementing
green infrastructure in highly impervious
areas."
Source: American Planning Association, 2009
SMART Connector
The City of Southfield in partnership with SMART offers a
SMART Connector Service. The SMART Connector service is
a curb-to-curb bus service. Passengers will be picked up from
John Grace Arms and transported to full service public bus
stops and destinations.
Green infrastructure should be valued for many reasons. A
2007 study oonducted by Michigan State University's Land
Use Policy Institute found that residential property values
directly benefit from proximity to green infrastructure in
Oakland County. Nearby water resources, trail/path networks,
and natural area/open spac.e all positively influenced home
value. In addition , other benefits include:
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Supports business attraction
Helps to increase and maintain property values
Provides free services such as water filtration, storm
water oontrol, etc.
Improves local and regional tourism
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Social Benefits
Helps to build a sense of place
Provides outdoor learning environments
Creates recreational opportunities
Improves health and wellness
Environmental
Provides habitat and biodiversity
Reduces air, noise, and water pollution
Safeguards natural and historic assets
Manages storm water
Helps mitigate the effects of climate change
Source: Oakland County, Michigan, 2012
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moderate and vigorous activity). Thirty minutes a day, five
times a week is an easy goal to remember. The AHA
recommends introducing walking into an individual's daily
routine as the simplest way to improve health. However, any
type of physical activity that makes you move your body and
bum calories, such as climbing stairs or playing sports, will
benefrt the body. Individuals should include a combination of
aerobic and strength exercises in their routines. Aerobic
exercises benefit your heart, such as walking , jogging,
swimming , or biking. Strength and stretching exercises are
best for overall stamina and flexibility. No matter what type of
exercise, green spaces introduced and maintained by a
community provide needed space for activity.
Healthy Living
Community design affects public health in a variety of ways.
Air and water quality, street safety, and an individual's level of
daily activity all depend on land-use and transportation policies
made by local governments. The American Planning
Association (APA) believes that a major connection exists
between urban form and both obesity and air quality.
Therefore, the APA supports compact, mixed-use
development; proven to reduce obesity and smog by allowing
for people to abandon their cars for alternative forms of
transportation , such as walking , biking , or transit.
Evidence also suggests that the incorporating adequate
amounts of green space into a community can help to lower an
individual's stress, promote healing, and help children
concentrate in school. Green space can be utilized by
residents and other visitors for recreational purposes, including
exercise. The American Heart Association (AHA) suggests at
least 150 minutes per week of moderate exercise or 75
minutes per week of vigorous exercise (or a oombination of
Figure 20: Healthy Living
Source: American Heart Association. 2012
Although many comprehensive plans inoorporate public health
concerns as important secondary benefits, few plans address
public health as a primary concern or major theme. Integrating
public health as a major theme allows for goals and policies to
be created that introduce supporting land-uses and a greater
emphasis on the transportation element. Incorporating public
health into a community's comprehensive Master Plan is
important to ensure that future growth leads to a healthier
community.
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Senior Support Services
Several resources exist throughout Southfield to support our
senior population . In addition to the provision of housing, nonmotorized access, transit services, and low impact
development outlined previously, the following amenities serve
to enhance the day-to-day quality of life of senior residents
through City services, recreation , and employment.
Donald F. Fracassi Municipal Campus
The Municipal Campus offers various senior amenities
including the Parks and Recreation Building, which houses an
Information Desk, Senior Services offices, the Adult
Recreation Center, and activity and rental spaces. The
Campus also houses the Southfield Pavilion , an indoor space
that hosts a variety of conferences, shows, and activities while
connecting all residents to City service offices.
Commission on Senior Adults (COSA)
The purpose of COSA is to support the interests of seniors
and assist in the resolution of senior concerns. The
Commission serves as a liaison between Southfield seniors
the community at large, and the City of Southfield. COSA aiso
presents recommendations and information to the Mayor and
City Council based on an ongoing analysis of senior adult
needs, develops a master plan for senior human services, and
works cooperatively with other City departments, boards,
commissions, and senior support organizations.
According to AARP , Southfield has a Livability Score of 53,
which is above the median score . Open meetings are held
monthly in the Parks & Recreation Department. Individuals
may engage with COSA by applying to be a member, joining a
group working towards maintaining the "Age-Friendly
Community" designation (which expires in September 2022) ,
or attending periodic COSA-sponsored meetings and events.
Senior Recreation Center (50 years and older)
The City offers a variety of classes, monthly programs, and
travel opportunities including:
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AARP "Age-Friendly Community". COSA's overarching goal is
to improve the City for current and future senior residents by
enhancing livability in eight (8) categories:
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Fitness: Walking Group, tennis, yoga, chair exercises,
and weights.
Healthy & Wellness Education: Mental health,
cooking/dietary, disease prevention , and pain relief
workshops.
Social: Dominoes, bingo, bridge club, cards, Red Hat
Ladies, coffee group, American Association of Retired
People.
Financial/Health Care Planning: Tax aid, financial
education workshops, Medicare/Medicaid Assistance .
Monthly Trips: Seniors Dining Out (lunch and dinner
trips to restaurants), Shopping trips to area retail.
Day Trips: Examples include Detroit Tigers baseball
games, the Detroit Zoo, Rock & Roll Hall of Fame and
House of Blues in Cleveland, Ohio, and a 4-day trip to
Mackinac Island, and casino trips.
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Senior Scribe
The City offers a free, bimonthly publication to keep in touch
with its active adults, provide updates, and connect seniors to
city resources.
Rehabilitation and durable medical equipment
• Wheelchairs
Oxygen
Diabetic testing supplies
CHORE Program
Services include yard work, snow removal, window and gutter
cleaning as well as minor plumbing, furnace and electrical
repair, painting , and carpentry. Qualified homeowners allowed
$500 per year for labor costs, while the client is responsible for
materials. By helping with home and yard maintenanc.e,
CHORE enables homeowners to stay in their homes.
Personal care needs
Incontinence supplies
• Assistance with Activities of Daily Living in our center
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PACE Southeast Michigan
PACE is a multiservic.e senior amenity that provides • ... senior
community members with the care, medical treatment and
support they need to achieve the highest quality of life -while
staying independent as long as possible. Our elder care
experts offer an alternative to nursing home placement that
features comprehensive, coordinated care for a senior' s
medical, social and physical needs, while also providing peac.e
of mind for family caregivers." Services include:
Skilled home health and home care services
• Wound care
Patient and caregiver education
Intravenous or nutrition therapy
Injections
Monitoring serious illness and unstable health status
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Transportation
Housing
Social Participation
Respect & social inclusion
Civic participation & employment
Communication & information
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Parks & Recreation
Burgh Historical Park
o Musical perforrnanc.es/concerts
o Card games
o Photo guild
• Carpenter Lake
Seminole Public Park
Olde Town Park
John Grace Park
The improvements listed below will be part of the larger John
Grace redevelopment project, which will also include an indoor
community space available to the public by reservation .
• Tot lot
• Shaded seating
• Green spac.e
• Trees and landscaping
• ADA-accessible pedestrian access
• Removal of blighted hockey rink.
Medical transportation services
Non-emergency rides to health care visits
• Coordinated by our transportation manager
Family/ caregiver support services
• Caregiver support group
Respite
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Beech Woods Park & Recreation Center
The Beech Woods Par1< Master Plan, adopted in July 2021 ,
includes five phases of future improvements. many of which
have already been rompleted , such as:
Entrance plaza, ampitheater, and club house
construction.
Playground enhancements.
Ecological restoration.
Pedestrian connections.
More accessible walking paths.
Health and Medical
• Pharmacies. Numerous pharmacies exist nearby
including Beaumont Pharmacy and Walgreens.
• Hospitals. Medical resources include the Beaumont
Urgent Care and Beaumont Hospital and the
Farmington Village Family Practice.
Schools
• Stuckey Center
• Grand River Academy
Current amenities include:
• Wellness Center: cardio and strength training
equipment (annual fee)
• Fitness classes: Cardio and Tai Chi
• Senior Sports Drop-In games: Pickleball, volleyball,
and tennis
Salvation Army Church and Community Center
The Salvation Army provides key community services for the
area and allows residents to connect with one another through
community programming.
C.A.R.E.S. of Fannington Hills
Community. Action. Resources. Empowerment. Services.
(C.A.R.E.S.) is a 501 (c)3 non-profit organization that provides
support services to families or individuals in and around
Farmington Hills who may not otherwise have the emotional or
financial stability needed to thrive. They offer the following:
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Food Pantry: healthy food offered to over 400 families.
Clothing Pantry: donations are received and offered to
individuals in need Monday through Thursday and
some Fridays and Saturdays.
Early childcare center.
Job training and hfe skills for young adults.
Psychological rounsehng and spiritual renewal.
Mental health support: grief support, suicide
prevention, domestic violence and human trafficking
counseling, and substance abuse counseling .
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$269,281,480
Figure 24: PRIVATE Investment 2017-Present
Previous Private Projects
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2019
2017/
2020
2020
20172021
2022
20222023
2023
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Single Family Home Construction on
Outwood and Wrexford
Roof Replacement at Shiawassee Village
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Dollar Amount
58,900
Other Private Investments (See Appendix E)
1,300,000
Beech Woods Par1< Enhancements
10,000,000
Beaumont Hospital
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124,000
Farmington Hills Wat.er Main-Villa Capri
5,116,000
Beech Woods Park
3,500,000
Nine Mile Street Repair
1,393,337
3,090,000
Water & Sewer - Lake Ravines
Beech Road Rehabilitation
5,829,745
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Other Public Investments (see Appendix E)
642.200
Total Previous Public Investment:
29,721,986
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Future Public Projects
Farmington Hills Street Repairs and
Capital Preventabve Maintenance
10,800,000
2,858,611
Beech Road Street Repair
Shiawassee Road Rehabilltation
~Ft Shared-Use Path (170.000)
5-Ft Sidewalk (-40,000)
Indian Street Sidewalk Construction with
Ditch Enclosures
Pedestrian and Transit Enhancements
Great Lake Water Authority (GLWA) Water Reser\'Oirs
11,368,900
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20222024
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5,457,347
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2,800,000
(federal) 2,100,000
630,000
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Beaumont Hospital Expansion
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MSHDA requires at least $25 million in private investments
and $25 million in public investments in the past five years in
addition to a minimum of $10 million in future investment for
the next five years, within a one-mile radius of the site. The
following figures show that public and private investments in
the area exceed these benchmarks. In addition to area-wide
investments, several public investments have been made in
the last ten years immediately adjacent to the site, as detailed
in Figure 25.
Dollar Amount
Previous Projects
Date
Total Future Public Investment:
2,290,736
600,000
50,000
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Figure 26: Selected Neighborhood Investment Activity Areas
These projects are reflected in the proceeding map along wth
other area investments.
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Beaumont Hospital and Medical Campus
28050 Grand River Avenue, Farmington Hills
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$160,000,000
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Single Family Home Construction
Outwood and Wrexford Street, Southfield
2017-2020
$630,000
Private
0.90
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Roof Replacement - Shiawassee Village
Condominiums
25337 Shiawassee, Southfield
2020
$613,900
Private
0.90
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Other Private Investments
See Appendix E -2017-2022 Building Permits
2017-2022
$5,457,347
Private
0.90
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Other Private Investments
See Appendix E - 2017-2022 Building Permits
2022-2023
$58,900
Private
0.90
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Beaumont Hospital and Medical Campus
28050 Grand River Avenue, Farmington Hills
$10,000,000
Private
0.90
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Olde Towne Park
Farmington Hills, between Grand River and
Shiawassee
2019-2021
$124,000
Public
0.40
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Beech Woods Recreation Center & Golf
Course
22200 Beech Rd • Southfield
2019-2021
$3,500,000
Public
0.80
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2023
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Beech Road Rehabilitation
Between 8 and 9 Mile - Southfield
2021
$4,900,000
Public
0.90
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City of Detroit Pump House
9 Mile Road - Farmington Hills
2021
$5,829,745
Public
0.80
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Other Public Investments
See Appendix E - 2017-2022 Builcing Permits
2017-2022
$642,200
Public
0.50
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Shiawassee Road Rehabilitation
Shiawassee Road, from 8 Mile to Inkster. Southfield
2022-2024
$2,290,736
Public
0.70
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ln<ian Street Sidewalk Construction
Indian Street, from 8 Mile to Shiawassee. Southfield
2023-2024
$600,000
Public
0.50
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Pedestrian & Trans,t Enhancements
Shiawassee and 8 Mile from Inkster to Beech Daly,
Southfield
2022-2027
$50,000
Public
0.10
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Great Lakes Water Authority - Water Reservoir East Street • Southfield
2022-2025
$44,900,000
Public
0.60
Total:
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Previous Projects
Future Projects
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John Grace Site.
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project locations.
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meditation and enjoyment of the natural environment that
Carpenter Lake provides by the public. The donation also
included several conifer trees and two benches. Future
improvements include a water feature at the site as well.
The City plans to implement the following improvements within
the next ten years:
Pedestrian Improvements
• Sidewalks: Install 5-feet wide sidewalk & ADA ramps
along the east side of Indian Street from the subject site
south to Eight Mile Road as well as north to Shiawassee
Road.
• Crosswalks: Install striping, signage, and possible
signaling as needed to increase connectivity with the
larger non-motorized network and improve safety,
particularly for vulnerable residents including seniors
and children.
• Respite stations: Bench and trash receptacles along
non-motorized paths.
• Shared-Use Pathways: Expand network of shared-use
pathways, paved shoulders, and bike lanes along
Shiawassee Road.
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With METRO Act. funding, city-wide installation of
pedestrian/!ransit enhancements at strategic locations.
Improvements over the next five years include:
• 188 Keywalks
• 206 Pads
• 211 Benches
• 211 Trash receptacles
• 18 Shelters
Art & Sculpture
Incorporate indoor and outdoor art at the subject. site. An
example of a recent installation that also serves as a
recreation element are the Boulders at Carpenter Lake. In
2017 , the City accepted a private donation to construct. a
natural art installation consisting of a series of boulders of
various materials and sizes. The space will be used for
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Figure 29: The Boulders at Carpenter Lake
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POTENTIAL FUNDING SOURCES
The following are examples of potential funding sources that
could be utilized for funding the redevelopment of the site,
including storm water, park and trail improvements:
the Michigan Department of Environmental Quality (MDEQ) or
the Michigan Economic Growth Authority (MEGA) for approval.
AARP Community Challenge Grant
Municipal governments and non-profits are eligible to apply for
the AARP Community Challenge Grant, the goal of which is to
•make communities more fivable for all ages.• Approved
projects include: mobility, transportation and pedestrianaccessible routes; creating vibrant public places; increasing
affordable and accessible housing options; and other
community improvements.
The grant's parameters contain no distinct. funding
requirements but instead encourage local creativity, pedestrian
accessibility and community engagement.
Brownfield Funding
The City of Southfield is oonsidered a Quafified Local Unit of
Government or "Core Community" for the purposes of the
Brownfield Redevelopment Financing Ad (Ad 381 ). As such,
brownfield projects that are included within a Brownfield Plan
can capture local tax increment revenues for reimbursement of
eligible activities including infrastructure improvements on the
property or in some cases on other property that provided a
benefit to the brownfield property. Brownfield properties are
properties that are contaminated, fundionally obsolete, or
blighted as defined in Ad 381.
In addition to the local tax incremenl the State school taxes
may also be captured. In order to capture the State taxes, an
Ad 381 Work Plan must be prepared and submitted to either
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Improvements eligible for tax increment financing (TIF) at the
local level may include improvements on the brownfield
property. A requirement to obtain approval from the State for
capture of the State taxes is that the improvement be to public
infrastructure. The State typically views public infrastructure as
infrastructure that is accessible to the public and generally
owned , operated , and maintained by a municipal entity. For
the purposes of storm water management, this could include
installation of larger stomi water sewers, improvements or
enlargement of existing storm water detention/retention ponds,
or creation of new storm water detention/retention ponds.
The State has been reluctant to approve capture of the State
taxes for storm water improvement unless there is an
environmental reason why stomi water cannot be managed on
the brownfield property. However, capture of the local taxes
only requires approval at the City level and there is greater
flexibility in how the local taxes increment revenues can be
applied .
Community Development Block Grant (CDBG)
The City of Southfield receives Community Development Block
Grant (CDBG) funds annually from the U.S. Department of
Housing and Urban Development (HUD) based on a fomiula
allocation. The CDBG has been in existence since 1974
authorized by Title I of the Housing and Community
Development Ad.
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�Additionally, LMB, in partnership with MRP, administers the
Bike Wave Program through the Community Change Grant
from General Motors. The program is available to any
Michigan municipality who is seeking resources to make their
roads more accessible and pedestrian friendly by providing
temporary bike lane delineators and curb extensions that allow
cities to test pedestrian-friendly infrastructure before
installation.
The CDBG program allows the City of Southfield to develop
and implement activities and projects that are uniquely suited
and beneficial to Southfield residents within the framework of
federal guidelines. The purpose of the funding is to develop
viable urban communities by providing decent housing and a
suitable living environment and by expanding economic
opportunities, principally for persons of low and moderate
income. With CDBG funds, the City will be able to deliver
additional sidewalks and ADA compliant curb cuts to improve
ac:cessibility.
METRO Act Funding
Funds from the Metropolitan Extension Telecommunications
Rights-of-Way Oversight (METRO) Act can be allocated
towards improving transit and pedestrian amenities in the
right-of-way. These funds are part of the current city budget
Per the Department of Housing and Urban Development, each
activity funded with CDBG funds must meet one of the three
national objectives:
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Benefit persons of low and moderate income
Aid in the prevention or elimination of slums or blight
Resolve an urgent need; serious and immediate threat
to health and welfare of the community 'Nhere other
financial resources are not available.
Each year the Housing Department hosts informational
meetings for the public to gain infonnation on the CDBG
program. Technical assistance is available to agencies for help
preparing their applications.
Source: City of Southfield Housing Department, 2018
Michigan Community Revitalization Program (MCRP)
The MCRP is an incentive program available from the
Michigan Strategic Fund (MSF), in cooperation with the
Michigan Economic Development Corporation (MEDC),
designed to promote community revitalization that will
accelerate private investment in areas of historical
disinvestment; contribute to Michigan's reinvention as a vital,
job generating state; foster redevelopment of functionally
obsolete or historic properties; reduce blight; and protect the
natural resources of this state. The program is designed to
provide grants, loans, or other economic assistance for
eleigible investment projects in Michigan and is available to
Southfield as a Redevelopment Ready Community.
League of Michigan Bicyclists Micro-Grant & Bike Wave
Community Change Grant
The LMB Micro-Grant Program provides financial assistance
to support the implementation of creative projects that promote
bicycling and the safety of bicyclists on Michigan roadways.
The Micro-Grants are designed to encourage new ideas and
smaller groups with a funding opportunity that is the right frt.
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Plan (QAP). The OAP is required to set forth selection criteria
used to determine housing priorities appropriate to local
conditions in Michigan.
Michigan Natural Resources Trust Fund
The following are key criteria within the QAP and other related
policies that have a direct correlation to creating and/or
preserving affordable housing and allowing lower income
residents to live in areas of greater opportunity:
1. Proximity to Transportation
2. Proximity to Amenities
3. Education, Health and Well-Being, Economic Security,
and Jobs, Goods, and Services
4. Developments located within an Opportunity Zone
and/or a Rising Tide Community
5. Developments near Downtowns/Corridors
6. Developments near an Employment Center
7. Neighborhood Investment Activity Areas
8. Affordable/Mar1<et Rent Differential
9. Mixed Income Development
10. Rural Set-Aside
Figure 30: Carpenter Lake Nature Preserve
The Michigan Natural Resources Trust Fund (MNRTF), in
place since 1976, provides financial assistance to local
governments and the Department of Natural Resources (DNR)
to purchase land or rights in land for public recreation or
protection of land because of its environmental importance or
its scenic beauty. It also assists in the appropriate
development of land for public outdoor recreation , trails and
water trails. Additional information can be found at:
http://www.michigan.gov/dnr/
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Michigan State Housing Development Authority (MSHDA)
Low-Income Housing Tax Credit Program
The Low-Income Housing Tax Credit (LIHTC) program offers a
financial incentive to construct, rehabilitate, and operate rental
housing for low-income tenants. Under federal law, UHTC is
required to be allocated according to a Qualified Allocation
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The OAP has a heavy emphasis on location because strong
locations have significant benefits for residents. Among these
benefits are the potential for enhanced quality of life, proximity
to employment, and reduced transportation costs associated
with living in walkable areas. Residents desire to live and wor1<
in locations where there is a high quality of life and 'Nhere
there are a multitude of opportunities to continue to better their
current situation. Residents that need affordable housing are
no different in 'Nhat they desire, and affordable housing should
be no different in what it offers them. It is for these reasons
that the QAP intentionally focuses on areas of opportunity.
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�Additional MSHDA / LIHTC Considerations
Points will be awarded for projects that include:
• Rezoning documentation, dated within one year of the
application due date on official letterhead identifying the
address of the project, the property's current zoning
designation and an explanation of whether or not
the project is permitted under the zoning ordinance.
If the project is not currently properly zoned , what, if any,
steps are in process to obtain proper zoning for the
proposed project.
• Evidence that the proposed site has received site plan
approval. Required submission of a letter from the local
governing body indicating that the relevant board or
commission of the local governing body has reviewed the
proposal , including the level of rehabilitation work to be
completed , the site, and that no further plan approvals or
reviews are necessary, other than on the staff level.
• A signed letter or resolution from the local government
dated within 60-days of the application due date that
identifies, supports and outlines the significance of the
proposed project, including the identification of this
Revitalization Plan.
Land & Water Conservation Fund
Any unit of government, including Native American tribes,
school districts, or any combination of units in which authority
is legally constituted to provide recreation with a Michigan
Department of Natural Resources and Environment (DNRE)approved community five-year recreation plan is eligible to
apply for project funding through the Federal Land and Water
Conservation Fund (LWCF).
Applications are evaluated by the DNRE using four
criteria: project need, applicant history, site and project
quality, and alignment with the state's recreation plan. In
201 o, the fourth criterion is how well a project aligns with
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Source: Michigan Department of Natural Resources, 2011
Revitalization and Placemaking (RAP) Program American Rescue Plan (ARP)
The State of Michigan is deploying federal ARP funding to
communities to address the economic impacts of the COVID19 pandemic. RAP will provide real estate and redevelopment
gap financing for the rehabilitation of vacant, blighted, or
underutilized historic structures. The grants aim to support
permanent place-based solutions associated with traditional
downtowns, social zones, and public spaces.
Stom, Water Utility Fee
More than 400 cities, towns and utility districts nationwide
utilize parcel-based storm water billing practices that charge
property owners storm water fees based entirely or in part on
the amount of impervious area on their property. Some have
provisions for property oYJners to reduce their storm water fee
through reductions of impervious surfaces or installation of
BMPs to manage runoff on-site. This incentive reduces storm
water runoff into municipal sewers and local waterways, thus
reducing the costs for the city or utility district. The City of Ann
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Arbor recently adopted a storm water utility fee that follows this
model.
Some cities. including Philadelphia, create incentives to
reduce runoff by discounting future storm water fees. This
incentive creates an opportunity for private third parties to
invest in storm water retrofits. Like how financings for energy
efficiency retrofrt projects have been structured, a portion of
future storm water fee savings can be utilized for lender or
project financier repayment Challenges to private financing of
storm water retrofits exist but this type of financing is emerging
as cities nationwide are seeking cost-effective alternatives that
leverage private dollars to complement necessary public
investments in storm water infrastructure.
Transportation Alternatives Program (TAP)
The Transportation Alternatives Program (TAP) is a
competitive grant that seeks to enhance intermodal and
pedestrian-oriented transportation. This federally-funded grant
was created under the Moving Ahead for Progress in the 21st
Century Act (MAP-21) of July 2012. Funds are allocated to
State governments, and then again allocated into State
transportation agencies, such as the Michigan Department of
Transportation, and local metropolitan planning organizations,
such as the Southeast Michigan Council of Governments.
Local govemments and organizations can apply for the TAP
Grant and must submit a budget with a minimum of 20% nonfederal funding sources.
lnterrnodal and pedestrian-oriented transportation options and
designs that the TAP Grant are awarded to include pedestrian ,
biking, and shared-use pathways; safe routes for non-drivers;
rails to trails programs; historic preservation; scenic
viewpoints; and vegetation control. Improving City and regional
pedestrian connectivity, especially in accordance with existing
regional plans, remains a top goal for TAP Grant coordinators.
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Michigan's Statewide Comprehensive Outdoor Recreation
Plan and is cumulative among the following categories: trails,
community outdoor recreation , green technology in outdoor
recreation , universal access or coordination and cooperation
among recreation providers. This criterion was developed
based on the 2008-2012 Michigan Statewide Comprehensive
Outdoor Recreation Plan (SCORP). At least 50% of the total
project cost in local match is required from local government
applicants. The DNRE makes recommendations to the
National Park Service (NPS) on which applications to fund and
NPS grants final approval. Applications are accepted
annually. In 2011 , the minimum grant award was $30 ,000 and
the maximum was $100,000.\
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REDEVELOPMENT OPTIONS
Existing Conditions
Zoned (R-1) Single Family Residential
Allowable Uses
Permitted Outright
o Single Family homes
o Farms
o Accessory buildings
o Family childcare homes
Permitted with Special Land Use Approval
o Public & private schools
o Publicly owned buildings
o Parks & recreation areas
o Community buildings, country clubs, fraternal
lodges, or similar
o Indoor recreational facilities
o Churches, synagogues, mosques, cerneterie:s
o Group childcare homes
Residential Unit Development District (RUDD) Option
Wrth underlying (RM) Multifamily Residential Zoning
o Apartment homes
o Affordable senior housing
o Community spaces
o Parks and recreation areas
Land Use Considerations
In reviewing the most recent proposed development plan for
adaptive reuse, the character of existing and future land use of
the site, as described in Sustainable Southfield, is being
considered .
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�Current Use
Moderate Density Single-family Residential: This designation
is intended to accommodate single-family residential
development on lots that are smaller than half an acre. Lot
sizes can range from 7,500 sq . ft. up to 20 ,000 sq. ft and
corresponds generally with the R-A, R-T and R-1 through R-4
zoning districts. Development here contributes to the goal of
providing a larger variety of single-family housing types and
price ranges to accommodate residents in all stages of life.
The higher density single-family residential development
allows for increased walkability and pedestrian connections to
nearby commercial, institutional, and civic uses.
Invited. It should be noted that the neighborhood has a high
percentage of rental homes.
Nineteen residents attended , seven residents called to say
they were in support but due to COVID preferred to stay home,
and two residents emailed their support. A summary of the
meeting is as follows.
A history of the school was distributed along with the proposed
adaptive reuse plan. A short PowerPoint was presented that
included an aerial view of the site and summarized the
proposed community uses of the building for residents of John
Grace Arms and the greater community, the one-acre
proposed neighborhood park, future Southfield Parks & Rec
programming, as well as future public works projects for the
area.
Potential Future Use
Low Density Multiple-family Residential: Intended land uses
within Low Density Multiple-family Residential areas include
attached single-family buildings, duplexes or low density
multiple-family developments. This includes townhouses,
attached condominiums, apartments and senior housing
developments under two stories. Developments here should
include high-quality design that emphasizes pedestrian
connections with surrounding uses, provides alternative
housing options, and act as a buffer between single-family
neighborhoods and higher intensity uses.
Overall , the meeting was very positive; however, some
concerns and questions were raised regarding :
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Traffic.
Factories and business operations.
Lack of gardens and a dog park in the proposal.
Possible negative impact on property values.
Issues with other apartment complexes.
Public Input
City staff responded to those questions and concerns.
John Grace Neighborhood Meeting
Traffic
It was pointed out that on average only 40 percent of residents
in subsidized senior buildings have automobiles. Further, van
transportation wiU be provided to residents of John Grace
Arms.
On Wednesday, December 8, 2021 , at the Beech Woods
Recreation Center, over 100 households were invited within a
350-foot radius of the school to attend a public meeting
regarding the conversion of John Grac.e School in to
subsidized senior apartments. In addition, longtime residents
who live outside the radius but were active in the John Grace
Neighborhood and the former community center were also
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Factories and Business Operations
It was explained that the factories on the edge of the
neighborhood existed long before the current residents moved
to John Grace and are not near the John Grace building and
not related to the proposal for senior housing. The city has
addressed issues with the factories when necessary. It was
noted that the Southfield Non-Profit Housing Corporation is a
not-for-profit entity. It provides much needed safe senior
housing with a host of services. There are many home rental
companies operating in the neighborhood as well.
Gardens and Dog Park
It was noted that gardens and music offerings to residents
could be included. Additionally, a dog park could be part of the
pocket park within the proposal.
Property Values
It was explained that there is no correlation between senior
housing and reduction in property values. In fact, a significant
investment in the neighborhood would improve property
values. Further, a large vacant building in the neighborhood
does not contribute to improving property values. It was also
noted that in the past five years property values have
improved by $100 per square foot between Eight Mile and
Nine Mile roads and residents were supportive of seeing the
removal of the unused hockey rink.
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Alternatives
Option 1
Demolition of existing John Grace building and development of
the land under current zoning - single-family residential.
Maximum lots:
7-9 single family lots
(total parcel width 696 ft I
minimum lot width of 70
ft)
Parking required :
18 spaces (2 spaces /
lot)
Land Area required :
81 ,000 SF (9,000 SF /
lot)
Other Apartment Complexes
One resident maintained that McDonnell Towers, River Park
Place and Woodridge were horrible places and poorly
managed . When asked if she had been in them, she admitted
she had nol She was invited to tour the Southfield NonProfit's senior apartment buildings. Another resident noted that
Woodridge and other non-profrt properties were not in
neighborhoods.
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�Option 2 + 3
Adaptive reuse of the existing building. expansion. and
addition of a public park and community space.
Option 2
Renovation of existing John Grace building.
RUDD
Fourteen (14) one-bedroom and four (4) two-bedroom units
of senior housing
Parking required: 11 spaces (,5 spaces / unit+ 1 /
employee (2))
Land Area required: 0.62 acres (1 ,500 SF/ unit= 27,000
SF.)
John Grace Arms Senior Housing
RUDD and site plan currently under review, plans
attached.
Fifty-one (51) one-bedroom and nine (9) two-bedroom units
Total
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Option 3
Construction of an addition to the south of the building.
Additional Considerations
The proposed RUDD development includes indoor community
gathering space available to residents for reservation. The
development also includes a public park with a tot lot, shaded
seating , green space, trees, a dog park, and dog run. In
keeping with the historical architectural features of the existing
building, the new add ition will inoorporate quality materials
and appropriate glazing ratios so as not to disrupt the
character of the surround ing neighborhood.
RUDD
Thirty-seven (37) one-bedroom and five (5) two-bedroom
units of senior housing
Parking required: 21 spaces (.5 spaces / unit)
Land Area required: 1.45 acres (1 ,500 SF/ unit= 63,000
SF.)
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Parking Proposed: 62 spaces
Land Area Required:2.07 acres
Land Area Available:4.62 acres
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Figure 32: Option 2 + 3 - John Grace Arms Senior Housing - Site Plan
51 One-Bedroom Units
9 Two-bedroom Units
62 Parking Spaces
Public Par1c, induding:
Playground, Green Space, and
Pedestrian Circuat100
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�Recommendations
To maximize community benefit from the proposed project, we
recommend the following elements be included in the revised
site plan.
Public Art
Southfield has a long history with the arts and is committed to
preserving and enhancing its network of public art features.
These features can be sculptural or landscape-oriented and
can be of a variety of sizes and materials. Art will need
approval from the Southfield Arts Commission . Refer to
Southfield's Public Arts Guide, 2017.
Resident Enhancements
Incorporating a covered drop-off and pick-up area as well as
an outdoor patio with shading structure would enhance the
resident experience and provide additional height and mass
variation to the proposal. The provision of seating trash
receptacle(s) and qrill(s) would further increase outdoor
activity. Additionally, a small, enclosed dog park/dog run
should be Included in the overall park plan.
Figure 41: Typical enclosed dog park
Public Enhancements
The plan should also provide for the extension of the public
sidewalk along Indian Street north to Shiawassee Road and
south to Eight Mile Road. This would provide a critical
connection to retail areas as well as enhance the City's nonmotorized network The indoor community space will be
available to the public by reservation.
Figure 42: Public art examples - City Hall (left) Beech Woods Park
(right)
Park Enhancements
Include the preservation of a one.acre park for both residential
and neighborhood use that has ADA-accessible circular
walking paths, benches , trash receptacle, tot-lot, open green
space, a small shade structure, and trees.
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Approval Process
Actions Required
The Planning Commission will need to recommend the
creation of a Residential Unit Development District (RUDD)
before or concurrently with the review of the RUDD application
and site plan .
February 23
The Planning Commission holds a Public Hearing to discuss
the creation of an RUDD and made Favorable
Recommendation to Council
March 1
The Housing Commission approved the John Grace
Revitalization Plan
March 7
Council Study Session on proposed RUDD
March 9
The Planning Commission discusses the John Grace
Revitalization Plan at a study meeting.
March 14
The Council holds a Public Hearing on RUDD. Approves
RUDD and introduces Ordinance. Reviews John Grace
Revitalization Plan.
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Figure 43: Public participation flyer
March 16
The Planning Commission holds a Public Hearing at 6:30 P.M.
in the Council Chambers. The Planning Commission considers
the John Grace Revitalization Plan. After the hearing, the
Planning Commission makes a report and recommendation to
the City Council.
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March 21
The City Council approves the John Grace Revitalization Plan
and enacts the RUDD for John Grace.
Final Review of RUDD Agreement, including final site plan
review, by the City Attorney and City Planner prior to execution
by Mayor and City Cieri<.
2022
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�Sources
City of Southfield
A Market Feasibility Study of: John Grace School by Novogradac &
Company LLP , July 9, 2018
"Older People Working Longer, Earning More• by Erika McEntareer,
Center for Economic Studies (CES) , US Census Bureau, April 2018
"The U.S. Joins Other Countries With Large Aging Populations•, by
Johnathan Vespa , US Census Bureau's Population Division, March
2018
"Uber, butfor Grandma•, by Tanya Snyder, Politico, 9/27/17
https:/MMNJ.politico.com/agendalstory/2017 /09127 /transportationfor-the-aqing-population-000531
Sustainable Southfield Master Plan (adopted 6/20/16, as amended)
Lockwood Companies
Miscellaneous
Michigan State Housing Development Authority (MSHDA) LowIncome Housing Tax Credit Program Qualified Allocation Plan
(OAP)
L'\PlanningVohn Grace Revitalization Plan\2022 Update
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APPENDICES
Appendix A: Resolution
Discussions and actions by various board and commissions.
Appendix B: RUDD Review
Preliminary review of the John Grace Arms proposal for
compliance with the zoning code and RUDD standards.
Appendix C: Lockwood Documents
Narrative of senior amenities.
Narrative of transportation services.
Appendix D: MSHDA Guidelines
Guidelines for funding approval.
Appendix E:
2017-2022
Building Permits
All public and private permits in the last five years; permits
within one mile of the site are highlighted.
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�Appendix A: Resolutions
consisting of35 one-bedroom apartments and 5 two-bedroom
apartments. apartments
REGULAR MEETING
OF THE SOUTHFIELD HOUSING COMMISSION
Motion by Lora Brantley-Gilbert and Supported by E'toile
O'Rear-Libertt
Minutes
March I. 2022 - Reconunendation
Resolved the Southfield Housing Commission suppo1ts and
endorses the John Grace Revitalization Plan as presented.
Motion passed unanimously.
The meeting of the Southfield Housing Commission convened
at 5:00 p.m in the City of Southfield Council Study Room
26000 Evergreen road, Southfield, Michigan.
Present was Commissioners: Vicki Bayne-Perry, Lora
Brantley-Gilbert, Etoile Brantley-Gilbert
Excused was Commissioner Earlene Traylor-Neal
Also present: Sherry Veal, Executive Director, Southfield
Housing Commission~Frederick Zorn, City Administrator,
City of Southfield, Mayor Kenson Siver, City of Southfield;
Janay Eisenmenger, Director of Acquisitions, Lockwood
Companies
Frederick Zorn, City Administrator, City of Southfield. Mayor
Kenson Siver, City of Southfield; Janay Eisenmenger, Director
of Acquisitions, Lockwood Companies
Presented the John Grace Revitalization Plan which outlines
the proposal to convert the hist01ic vacant John Grace School
into a Senior residential community of 60 units. The plan calls
for the former elementary school to be converted to 14 onebedroom apartments and 4 two-bedroom apartments with the
both the original library and gymnasium to be used as
community spaces and the addition ofa two-story structure
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CITY PL°'~R'S RECOMME~ATIO_ FOR PLA.~JNG COMMISSIO_
~larch 16, 2022
Proposed Amendment to the Sustainablt1 South.field ComprehensiYe Master Plan to incorporate the
John Grace Re,italization Plan as a Subarea of the Sustainable Southfield Comp.rehensi,,-e Master
Plan in accordance with Article 4, Section 5.59, Comprehensive::\iasterPlanProcedure, Chapter 45,
Zoning, of Title V. Zoning and Planning of the Code of the City of Southfield, and the Michigan
Planning Enabling Act, Public Act 33 of, as follcnn:
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Amend the Sustainable South.field ComprehcnsiYe Master Plan to incorporate the John
Grace Revitalization Plan as a Subarea of the Sustainable Southfield ComprehensiYe
:\.faster Plan_ This amendment is specifically intended to be used to promote adaptiYe re-use
of the John Grace School for affordable senior housing, as part of the Sustainable Southfield
CompreheruiYe Master Plan.
The Planning Department recommends FA\'ORABLE CONSIDERATION of the proposed
Amendment to the Sustainable Southfield ComprehensiYe Master Plan to incorporate the John
Grace Re,italization Plan as a Subarea of the Sustainable Southfield Comprehcnsn·e Master Plan
and recommends adoption of the attached draft Amendment for the following reasons:
1.
The amendment, as prepared by the City of South.field Planning Department, the City of
Southfield Planning Com.mission and residents, has been thoroughly studied by the Planning
Commission at their Planning Commission Study :M:eetings and Regular Meeting.
2.
The amendment will serve to promote the adaptiYe re-use of the John Grace School for
affordable senior housing and amenities as proposed in the Plan and makes public
improvements near the subject site. The Plan provides for 60 affordable housing units in
addition to a ~
public park and indoor community space anilable for resen--ation. The
plan will provide for the transition from the single-family neighborhoods to the north into the
more intensely deYeloped areas along W Eight ¼le Road and Grand Rn-er AYenue to the
south. The imprm·ements will likely actiYate continued inYestment from the City, businesses
and neighbors
3.
The amendment will proYide an additional tool in the City's redevelopment tool box..
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Appendix B: RUDD Review
RESIDE
ELOPl\-tENT DI. TRICT <RUDD}
REZONI
TO:
Planning Commission
FROM:Terry Crout, AICP, ASLA, Director of Planning
D TE: February 4, 2022
RE:
PZRRUDD22--0001 John Grace R DD Rezoning
Review
Sidwell umber: 24-31..376--033
Current Zoning: R-1, Single Family
1. PRO.JECT DESIG
A. Location.
Dear Commissioners,
Attached are our comments as they relate to the proposed rezoning
for the adaptive reuse of the histo1ic John Grace High School (the
''Site") for 60 multifamily units by Lockwood Companies (the
·• Applicant'').
The Jotm Grace Arms is a proposed multifamily comm unit}
designed to provide affordable senior housing and a variety of
recreational, social, cultural, and commWlity-oriented opportunities
for its residents and the John Grace neighborhood. The apartment
community as proposed will consist of51 one-bedroom apartments
and 9 two-bedroom apartments. The existing hi toric John Grace
School will be adaptively reused to house 18 residential units
comprised of 14 one-bedroom apartment and 4 tw<rbedroom
apartme11ts. TI1e kindergarten space will be transformed into a quiet
reading and activiti room. The gyrnnasiwn will serve as a
commw1ity space for the residents and the surrounding
neighborhood The addition will consist of 42 residential units
comprised of 37 one-bedroom units and 5 tw1rbedroom UJllts. The
design is intended to respect and complement the aesthetic of the
existing John Grace School. The e.xterior of the new building is to be
primarily brick and the windows will have a similar character to tl1e
exi ting windows.
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STA DARDS:
The Site is currently zoned R-1, Single Family. The
Applicant is proposing a zoning map amendment to trigger
the RUDD overlay for the Site.
B. Permitted Uses.
Along with the residential uses authorized in tl1e zoning
ordinance, the Applicant proposes several eligible uses for
tl1e Site beyond multifamily residential, includmg·
1. Community space for RUDD resident and
neighborhood use.
2. Parks and recreation areas for RUDD resident and
neighborhood use.
3. Accessory u es to the RUDD such as a reading/game
room, laundry facilities, office space, and storage
spaces.
C. Residential Density.
For comparison., the density standards for dwelling units
(DU) and lot area (SF) set forth in Article 7 of the zoning
ordinance for Multiple Family Residential Disuicts (RM) are
considered. TI1e density of the proposed pla11 is as follows :
RM Standard Proposed
DU per acre: 29 D (Maximu.m)60 DU / 4.62 acres = 12.9
DU/acre
Lot area per D : 1,500 SF (MinimWll)201,247 SF / 60 DU
= 3,354 SF/DU
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�Based on the above information, the proposed development
does not breech any existing density requirements of the
zoning code, will not impose undue bw·den on existing city
services, and will not be out of character within the
neighborhood as a low-rise, multiple family adaptive reuse.
D. Applicable Base Regulations.
Unless waived or modified in accordance with the
procedures and standards set truth in the zoning ordinance,
the yard and bulk, parking, loading, landscaping, lighting,
and other standards set forth in Article 7 of the zoning
ordinance for a Multiple Family Residential District (RM).
Off-street parking requirements are set forth in Article 4.
Dimensional Standards:
RM Standard Proposed
Front Yard:50 ft (Minimum) 70.3 ft (Existing)
Rear Yard: 50 ft. (Minimum) 42. 7 ft
Side Yard (Lessel'):50 ft. (Minimum) 23 ft (Existing)
Height:30 ft (Maximuru)~32.5 ft. (Existing)
Floor Area: 525 SF (I-bed, Minimum)410 SF (SmalJest)
700 SF (2-bed, Minimum)850 SF (Smallest)
Elderly Residential Standard Proposed
Parking Spaces:30 (Minimum) 62
The non-conforming side yard and building height
dimensions indicated in the plan pertain to the existing
historical building and are legally non-conforming. The nonconforming rear yard and square footage dimensions should
be given special considerntion in the approval of the RUDD.
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G.Frontage and Access.
The Site is located on, and will maintain direct access to,
Indian Road, a public thoroughfare. The proposed plan does
not include construction of indirect access to any public
road. Vehicular access is provided by ludian Road and
adjacent thoroughfares. A pedestrian sidewalk cum:ntly
exists on the site but is not contiguous with the broader
sidewalk network at this time. Similarly, an on-street biking
network is not currently available to the Site: however, the
City' s Non-Motorized Asset Management Plan indicates onstreet improvements targeted for tl1e nearby Shiawassee and
Inkster corridors. Further improvements to the nonmotorized pathway networks, including filling of sidewalk
gaps, are expected with the reactivation of the Site. The
proposed development includes 5-foot wide patl1S for
pe<lestriau and bicycle circulation on-Site as well as 12
bicycle parking spac.es.
H.Natural Features.
Above and beyond the open space requirement above, the
Site is and will remain primarily open space, witl1 a portion
being dedicated to passive and active public park and
recreation space.
I.Utilities. All utility lines serving the Residential Unit
Development District (RUDD), whether designed for primary
service from main lines or for distribution of services throughout
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E.Regulatory Flexibility.
Beyond those variances e.xplained above, no other departures
from the zoning code a.re evident in the proposed plan at this
time. As the project progresses past preliminary approval,
additional scrntiny shall be given to proposed landscaping,
lighting, signage, utilities, and drainage.
F. Open Space Requirements.
The development as proposed meets the minimwn open
space requirement of25 percent; approximately 57 percent
of the site is pervious opeu space, which primarily consists
of the front yard setback, the proposed public park and
playground, and the proposed couttyard. The park accounts
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for about 14 percent of the site. Additionally, within the
courtyard, there appear to be two proposed pavilions for
outdoor gatheiing and a dog walk area. The developer will
dedicate this open space through an irrevocable conveyance,
thereby ensuring its developmei1t and future use as open
space in addition to the provision of its maintenance should
it become a public nuisance.
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The proposed rear yard setback variance is minimal. Proper
landscape and fence screeni11g, as explained later in this
letter, can serve as a visual buffer between the proposed
RUDD and the adjacent R-1 , Single Family Residential lots.
Regarding the minimum square footage of dwelling units,
Alticle 7, Section 5.84(2) establishes standards for special
approval concerning housing for the elderly from which the
minimum standards w~e derived. Additionally, up to 25%
of the dwelling units (15 DU) can be of an efficiency type
between 425 and 525 square feet. Five units, all I-bedroom,
and all part oftbe existing building, fall outside of the
standard mininmm as proposed. Three can be considered
under the efficiency standard, however, two units , one at 420
square feet, the other at 410 square feet, would continue to
be out of compliance. Wben considering the histori.c nature
of the building, tl1e an-angement of the wlits, and the need
for economy and efficiency to deliver affordable senior
housing, the Commission should consider allowing the floor
area vruiances for these two units. Through tbe RUDD
agreement, the Commission can ensure all measw-es are
taken to produce a high quality of development and maintain
the accessibility and safety of these units.
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tl1e site, shall be placed underground at all points within the
boundaries of the site.
Provision aud placement of all utilities will be reviewed
and approved by the City Engineer prior to final
approval.
J.Additional Considerations.
The Planning Commission shall take into accoum the
following considerati.ons, which may be relevant to a
particular project: perimeter setbacks and screening;
thoroughfare, drainage and utility design; w1derground
installation of utilities; insulating the pedestrian circulation
system from vehicular thoroughfares and ways; achievement
of an integrated development with respect to signage,
lighting, stonn water management, green infrastructure,
landscaping and building matetials; and noise reduction and
visual screening mechanisms from vehicular thoroughfares
and ways.
Landscaping, Drainage, and Screening
A complete landscape plan and screening plan, including the
method of screening for dumpsters, utilities, and adjacent
residential lots: the landscaping of parking lots; and the
provision of drainage controls ru1d green infrastructlll'e shall
be included before final approval is granted. The landscape
plan, drainage plan, and screening plan shall conform to t11e
relevant section of Article 4 of the zoning ordinance.
Historic Preservation and Architectural Characteristics
The Site includes tl1e John Grace High School building,
which will be restored. Complete plans and renderings
noting tl1e materials, colors, finishes, and other architectw.i.l
characteristics of both the existing building and tl1e new
addition will need to be included and shall conform to
�Unit Development District of 3. 75 acres of contiguous
land.
Chapter 50 of the Southfield City Code governing historic
preservation.
2) Compatibility with Future Land Use Plan.
According to the Low Density Muluple-family
Residential land use as described in Smta111able
Sourl1fie/d, as amended, the "development should
include high-quality design that emphasizes pedestrian
com1ections with surrounding uses, provides alternative
housing options, and act as a buffer between singlefamily neighborhoods and higher intensity uses."
Lighting and Signage
A complete lighting and signage plan, including a
photometnc schedule, shall be included before final
approval. PaJking lots, walkways, and park facilities will
need to be adequately lit to allow for safety and accessibility
within the Site. Signage should include all directional
marking for the safe and efficient flow of traffic and
pedestrians through U1e Site. All lighting and s1gnage shall
conform to Section 5.22-4 of the zoning ordinance.
Public
The proposed development will adaptively reuse an
existing historic school building and will rnclude au
addition of such a quality that matches the onginal
character of the building, thus being seamlessly
integrated into the neighborhood. Additionally, the
development will emphasize pedestrian connections
through a dedicated park and its inherent density
allowing for greater access and transition from the
single-family uses to the north and west to the more
intense uses along Eight Mile Road. The affordable
senior housing options will allow for "aging in place"
and acconunodate Southfield' s aging population
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The proposed plan shall include the provision of public art or
donation to tbe public art fund before final approval and
shall conform to Section 5.22-5 of the: zoning ordinance.
Utilities
Provision for utilities within U1e Site shall comply with the
Southfield City Code and will require final approval by the
city engineer.
DAROS A D REO IREME TS:
A.Conformance with the Residential Unit Development
District (RUDD) Concept The overall design and all uses proposed
m connection with a Residential Unit Development District (RUDD)
2.
3) Economic [mpact.
The proposed development will provide positive
economic impact 10 the community through the reuse of
a vacant lot, the provision of park and community
spaces, and the increased economic activity from
additional residents. Property values can be e.xpected to
increase with time as the development progresses.
shall be consistent with and promote the intent of the Residential
Unit Developmc:nt District (RUDD) concept as described in Section
5.22-3-l(A), as well as with specific project design standards set
forth herein.
I) Minimum Lot Size.
The proposed lot size for the development is 4.26 acres
and meets the minimum requirements for a Residential
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Usable Open Space.
The proposed development provides a variety of usable
open space including:
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An approximately .6 acre public park and
playground.
b. A residential courtyard and two pavilions wiU1 a dog
walk area.
c. An1ple front yard space that could host gardens or
art installations.
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The dwelling units in the new addition will also have
private balconies for resident use.
5) Unified Control.
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B. Compatibility with Adjacent Uses. The proposed
Residential Unit Development District (RUDD) shall set
f01th specifications with respect to architectural integrity,
height, setbacks, density, parking, circulation, green
infrastructure, landscaping, views, and other design and
layout features which e.xhibit due regard for the relationship
of the development to surround mg properties and the u es
thereon. In determining whether tltis requirement has been
met, consideration sliall be given to.
I) Acee s to major thoroughfares.
The proposed development shall be under single
ownership or control such Uiat there is a single person or
entity having responsibility for completing Ute project in
confomtity with this Ordinance.
The Applicant shall provide Proof of Ownership
prior to final approval.
6) Legal Documentation.
The applicant shall provide legal documentation of
single ownership or conu·ot in the form of agreements,
contracts, covenants, and deed restJictions which
incticate Uiat the development can be completed as
shown on the plans, and further that all portions of the
development that are not to be maintained or operated at
public expense will continue to be operated and
maintained by the developers or their successors. These
legal docuntents shall bind all development successors in
title to any commitments made as a part of the
documents. This provision shall not prohibit a transfer of
ownerslnp or control, provtded notice of such transfer is
given to the City Clerk & City Attorney.
All legal documentation is to be reviewed and
approved by the City Attorney p1ior to final
approval.
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4)
The Site has direct access to Indian Road, which
feeds into Eight Mile Road, a niajor 8-lane
thoroughfare, approxiaiately 630 feet south of the lot
and into Shiawassee Street approximately 500 feet
north of the lot. From Eight Mile Road, tl1ere is
direct access to two additional 8-lane thoroughfares:
Telegraph Road 1.7 ntiles to tJ1e east and Grand
River Avenue less than 3,000 feet to tJ1e west. From
Telegraph Road, access to interstates [-696 and 1-96
provide connection to the greater Detroit
Metropolitan Area.
2) Estimated traffic to be generated by the proposed
development.
An estimated traffic plan lias not been proposed.
Due to Ute primary use of the Site as a senior living
establishment, along with the park and recreation
space, minimal daily traffic increases can be
expected.
3) Proximity and relation to intersections.
Maj01· intersections described above in item # I.
4) Adequacy of driver sight di lances.
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�of bicycle lanes and sidewalks along Nine Mile ru1d
Beech Road. The regional transit service, SMART,
has a fixed route along Telegraph Road and a
portion of Eight t,,..We, with the nearest stop just over
one mile away from the Site. Detroit Depattment of
Transportation (DOOT) also has a fixed route along
Eight Mile, though no stops are available near the
Site.
For the access drive on the north end of the Site, the
sight distance to the nearest intersection (Emmett
and Indian) is approximately 100 feet. From the
main access drive on the south end of the Site, the
sight distance to the nearest i11tersection (Byron and
Indian) is approximately 260 feet. Landscaping shall
be maintained so as not to obstruct the sight of a
driver along Indian Road or that of a driver entering
or exiting the Site.
5) Location of and access to off-street parking.
The proposed development provides sufficient offstreet parking i11 two lots, one lot to the east of the
new addition composed of29 parking spaces aud
one lot to the north of the existing building
composed of 33 parking spaces.
C. Protection of Natural Environment.
No regulated \voodlands or wetlands exist on the site. There
are 20 trees located on the site, including four landmark
trees. Care should be taken to preserve or replace all trees on
site. Additional plantings sh.ould be considered for the park
space and rear yard to provide shading, screeni11g, and
beautification. The development must be in compliance with
all applicable environment protection laws and regulations.
7) Required vehicular turning movements. The plan
shows that both standard vehicles as well as Fire Tmcks can
maneuver arnund the site as needed.
8) Provisions for pedestrian circulation.
The proposed plan maintains and enhances
pedestrian circulation through the Site. Additional 5foot walkways will be added to circumnavigate the
new addition as well as to access the park space
directly from the public right-of-way. Additional
details for circulation through the courtyard will
need to be provided.
9) Access and connection to non-motorized pathways &
public transit.
The closest non-motorized pathways lie along
Shiawassee Road, about 500 feet north of the loL
This includes paved shoulders/bike Janes and shared
use paths. These feed into more complete networks
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D. Compatibility with the Future Land Use Plan.
The proposed development touches on all six principles
guiding Sustainable Southfield, as amended, and is
consistent witl1 several objectives related to each principle.
including:
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3)
Livable Build Environment
• Encow·age design standards appropriate to the
commwtity context.
• Provide accessible pubLic facilities and spaces.
• Conserve and reuse historic resources.
Harmony with Nature
• Provide for renewable energy use.
Resilient Economy
• Encourage communicy-based econontic
development and revitalizatiou.
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4)
5)
6)
Provide and maintain infrastructure capacity in
line with growtl1 or decline demands.
lnt.erwovcn Equity
• Provide a range of housing types.
• Plan for the physical, environmenta~ and
economic improvement of at-risk, distressed,
and disadvantaged neighborhoods.
• Plan for improved health and safety for at-risk
populations.
• Provide accessible, quality public services,
facilities, and healtlt care to mino1ity and lowincome populations.
Upgrade infrastructure and facilities in older and
substandard areas.
Healthy Community
• Plan for physical activity and healthy lifestyles.
Provide accessible parks, recreation facilities,
greenways, and open space
near all neighborhoods.
• Plan for access to healthy, locally grown foods
for all neighborhoods.
• Plan for equitable access to health care
providers, schools, public safety
facilities, and arts and cultural facilities.
Responsible Regionalism
• Coordinate local and regional housing plan
goals.
• Delineate designated !,'fOWth areas that are
served by transit.
• Enhance connections between local activity
centers and regional destinations.
• Include regional development visions and plans
in local planning scenarios.
• Encourage consistency between local capital
improvement programs and regional
infrastructure priorities.
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E. Compliance with Applicable Regulations. The proposed
Residential Unit Development District (RUDD) shall be in
compliance with all applicable Federal, state, and local laws
and regulations.
The Applicant shall furnish a statement ofthe project's
compliance with all Federal, State, and local laws.
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Companies
27777 Franklin Rd, Suite 1410
Southfield, Ml 48034-2337
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Proximity to Amenities
Please find the scoring criteria and the correlating amenity below:
a)
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c)
d)
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Full-Service Gr0cel)'/Supem,arket
► Busch's CARES Market - 27835 Shiawassee Street,
Fam,ington Hills
,, Spartan Foods - 25850 Grand River Avenue,
Redford Charter Township
Pham,acy
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Walgreens - 27750 Grand River Ave, Fam,ington
Hills
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Beaumont Pham,acy - 28100 Grand River Avenue,
Suite 101 , Fam,ington Hills
General Medicine Physidan/Oinic
;,, Beaumont Urgent Care by WellStreet - 27810
Grand River Avenue, Farmington Hlls
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Fam,ington Village Family Practice - 28100 Grand
River Avenue, Fam,ington Hlls
Public School
,, Stuckey Center - 26000 Fargo, Redford Charter
Township
,, Beech Elementary School - 19990 Beech Daly
Road , Redford
Community Organization & Food Pantry
,, Salvation Amly Church & Community Center 27500 Shiawassee Street, Fam,ington Hills
Employment Center
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,. Beaumont Hospital, Fam,ington Hills - 28050 Grand
River Avenue , Farmington Hills
Public Park
,. Seminole Public Park - Seminole Street, just North
of Shiawassee Street
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Olde Town Park- Crossroads of Independence
Street & Waldron Street
>- Beech Woods Recreation Center & Park - 22200
Beech Road, Southfield
Job Training Center
}. CARES of Farmington Hills- 27835 Shiawassee
Street, Fam,ington Hills
Food Pantry
">-- Salvation Amly Church & Community Center 27500 Shiawassee Street, Farmington Hills
>- CARES - 27835 Shiawassee Street, Fam,ington
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Full-Service Grocery/Supennarket (Points: 5)
Busch's CARES Markel Is a fully stocked, local grocery store. From
fresh fruits and vegetables, refrigerated and frozen foods, canned
goods, and drinks galore, Busch's CARES has anything one might
need or want. Busch's CARES Market accepts Bridge Card, debit or
credit card , or cash. Every purchase helps to support a local food
pantry. Please use the linked website below to find out more
information.
http://caresfh.org/buschs-cares-markeU
Spartan Foods is a locally owned grocery store v.tiere fresh produce
and dairy is brought in every day. Please use the linked website
below to find out more information.
https://spartan-foods.com/
Phannacy (Points: 3)
Walgreens has been in neighborhoods servicing the community as a
local pharmacy for 120 years. Their history and longevity speak
volumes to the quality of service they provide, and how important
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below to find out more information.
https:/lwww.walgreens.com/locator/walgreens27750+grand+ river+ave-fam,ing ton+hills-mi-48336/id=6313
Beaumont Pham,acy Located on the Beaumont Hospital, Fam,ington
Hills Campus. Please use the linked website below to find out more
information.
https./lwww.beaumont.org/locations/pharmacy-south-med1calbuilding-fam,ington-hills
General Medicine Physician/Clinic (Points: 3)
Beaumont Urgent Care by WellStreet provides immediate care for
ailments and illnesses alike. Having an urgent care locally can help
alleviate bigger hospitals and can result in quicker doctor visits for
patients. Beaumont Urgent Care by WellStreet can handle illness,
injuries, and testing/vaccines. Please use the linked website below to
find out more infom,ation.
https://www.lNE!llstreet.com/office-locattons/beaumont-farmingtonhills-urgent-care/
Beech Elementary School is a public school located within a 1-mile
radius of John Grace Amls. This school is part of the Redford
Township School District. Please use the linked website below to find
out more infom,ation.
httpsJlwww.redfordu .k 12.mi .us/beech/
Community Organization (Points: 2)
Salvation Amly Church and Community Center provides so many
different offerings. The most congruent option for John Grace Senior
Apartments is "Senior Camp·, a summer camp for seniors. Other
options avallable indude: Rent, Utility, and Mortgage assistance,
Emergency Food , Automobile, and Hope repair. For families with
children under 18 years old , they offer "Pathway of Hope for
Families·, which helps create self-sufficiency for families that are
struggling . Please use the linked website below to find out more
information.
https://centralusa .salvationam,y.org/fam,ingtonh1lls/
Pathway of Hope for Families
Beaumont Farmington Village Family Practice Place your family's
health in the hands of the Beaumont doctors at Farmington Village
Family Practice, and you'll get more than just highly qualified health
care professionals. Beaumont doctors are most preferred in
Southeast Michigan and provide access to our connected network of
experts. Please use the linked website below to find out more
infom,ation.
https:/lwww.beaumont .org/locabons/farmington-village-familypractice
Pathway of Hope is a holistic Salvation Amly approach to
create a path out of poverty. We provide targeted services to
families with children under the age of 18, both traditional and
non-traditional family structures, that desire to break the cyde
of crisis. Through case management, we focus on a family's
capabilities and raise hope by empOINE!ring them to overcome
barriers on the path to self-sufficiency. Families set their own
goals, and \lie partner with them to provide the resources
needed to accomplish each one.
Public School (Points: 2)
Stuckey Center is a public school located nearby to John Grace
Senior Apartments. The Stuckey Center is incorporated with Redford
Union School District. Please use the linked website below to find out
more information.
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Rent, Utility, Mortgage, Emergency Food, Automobile, and
Hope Repair Assistance
Assistance is available for soulhlNE!stem Oakland County.
Please fill out this form to make an appointment with us.
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have. Please use the linked website below to find out more
information. There are 1,498 full-time employees. Please see a
letter from Beaumont Hospital.
https:/fw.Nw.beaumont.orgilocations/beaumont-hospital-farmingtonhills
Drive thru on Wednesday starting at 10 am
Emergency food available upon need
Community Meal
Public Park (Points: 1)
The 2nd Tuesday of every Month we offer a Senior
Luncheon at 11 :30 am. Please call to RSVP 248-477-1153 •
During the Summer months we offer Breakfast and Lunch to
School age youth . Please call for dates and times. (248-4771153)
Seminole Public Park is a park located on Seminole Street, just
North of Shiawassee Street. Seminole Park is complete with a play
structure and a large open field .
Olde Town Park is located at the intersection Independence Street &
Waldron Street. Olde Town Park has tennis courts, multiple play
structures, and an open field . While this is the park being highlighted
within the neighborhood, there are numerous more in the vicinity:
Hearthstone Park and William Grace Dog Park.
Holiday & Seasonal Assistance
The Salvation Army celebrates the birth of Christ by spreading
His hope, love and joy to less fortunate members of our
community. In fact , our gift-giving programs and fundraising
initiatives are a direct answer to God's calling to care for the
poor, hungry, sick, and displaced. From physical needs such
as grocery, utility and gift assistance, to emotional experiences
including holiday events and traditions, to spiritual guidance
that provides healing and hope, we work to assist the whole
person through gifts that serve the body, mind and soul.
The Beech Woods Recreation Center & Park features 17,000 s,~uare
feet of recently renovated gymnasium space. The Center has tt'e
capability to run three collegiate basketball games simultaneou~ly. If
volleyball is more your game, the gym has the ability to run four
volleyball games at once.
The Beech Woods Recreation Center hosts a number of Southfield
Parks & Recreation programs including youth basketball leagues in
the fall , winter, and spring beginning in September, January and
April. For more information on our basketball leagues please contact
the Beech Woods Recreation center office at (248) 796-4670.
Assistance available:
Thanksgiving Baskets
Angel Tree
Toy Shop
Adopt-a-F amity
Coats for Kids
Back to school supplies
Easter Baskets
Beech Woods Recreation Center also offers sporting opportunities
for people with disabilities and for adults ages 50 years and over.
Adaptive programs include wheelchair basketball, golf and tennis.
Senior adult programs include bounce volleyball, tennis, pickleball
and golf. Check out the Senior Activities page of this site or call (248)
796-4670 for more details.
Employment Center (Points : 1)
Beaumont Hospital . Farmington Hills currently has 2,380 employees
and 623 physicians. Beaumont employs individuals who have
completed high levels of education, but also those who may not
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of 2022.
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Job Training Center (Points: .5)
CARES of Farmington Hills is a community service group to seeks to
assist those that are financially disadvantaged. There is a whole slew
of resources, services, events, etc. CARES provides to the
community. According to their website, one of the services they
provide is job training. Please use the linked website below to find
out more information.
http :1/caresfh.orq/
Food Pantry (Points: .5)
Salvation Army Church and Community Center is a recognized
community organization. Additionally, they also have a food pantry to
serve the community. In conjunction with the food pantry, there is
also a Senior Luncheon once a month. Please use the linked website
below to find out more information.
https://centralusa.salvationarmy.org/farmingtonhills/
The CARES in Farmington Hills food pantry serves the needs of well
over 400 families that have come to depend upon this much needed
resource every month. Due to the COVID-19 pandemic, the pantry is
only open by appointment.
https://caresfh.org/services/
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Lockwood
Residents will meet at the property manager's office for pickups and
drop-offs. The manager's office is located on the first floor of the
former historic school (please see the attached floor plan).
Companie
April 1 2022
Michigan State Housing Development Authority
735 East Michigan Avenue
Lansing, Ml 48909
Re: Transportation Commitment for the Residents of John Grace
Arms
21030 Indian Street, City of Southfield
Dear Sir or Madam:
The residents of John Grace Arms will have four bus services
available to them. These services indude:
a.Lockwood Management - 15-passenger bus
b.Suburban Mobility Authority for Regional Transportation (SMART)
c. Transportation of Southfield Seniors (TOSS)
d.Program of All-Inclusive Care for the 8der1y (PACE Southeast
Michigan)
A property management representative from Lockwood Management
will provide transportation services for tenants residing at John
Grace Arms, which is located at 21030 Indian Street, Southfield.
Lockwood Management will offer a Dial-A-Ride program, providing
transportation services from 7 a.m. to 9 p.m. Monday through
Sunday. Residents will notify Lockwood Management when they
require transportation services.
The destinations provided by Lockwood Management will be located
within 10 miles from John Grace Arms. Lockwood Management will
entertain appointments made outside of the 10-mile destination
guideline as long as they are made in advance and benefit the
tenant's economic, cultural , health or social outcomes.
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Lockwood Management, LLC
Note: All pickup and drop offs will be made at the rear entrance of
the John Grace Arms former school building (please see the
following page). Below is a proposed tenant schedule that can be
modified per the tenant's requests. Lockwood Management 01M1s a
15-passenger bus that will be available to John Grace Arms. This
bus is ADA compliant.
Weekly Schedule:
Monday: 7 a.m. ; 9 a.m .; 11 a.m .; 1 p.m.; 3 p.m.; 5 p.m.; 7 p.m . and
9p.m .
Lockwood Management, LLC
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Additionally, upon the full occupancy of John Grace Arms, a
Lockwood representative v.nll meet with all residents to create a list of
their transportation needs and locations. An existing schedule has
been proposed for tenants; however, this schedule v.nll be modified
upon the input from the tenants. We will form a Resident Service
Council Committee and one area of concern v.nll be transportation
services to educate and notify tenants of additional SMART, TOSS
and PACE transportation services.
Tuesday: 7 a.m.; 9 a.m.; 11 a.m .; 1 p.m.; 3 p.m. ; 5 p.m.; 7 p.m. and
9p.m.
Wednesday: 7 a.m.; 9 a.m.; 11 a.m.; 1 p.m. ; 3 p.m.; 5 p.m .; 7 p.m.
and 9 p.m .
Thursday: 7 a.m .; 9 a.m.; 11 a.m.; 1 p.m .; 3 p.m.; 5 p .m. ; 7 p.m. and
9p.m .
Friday: 7 a.m .; 9 a.m. ; 11 a.m.; 1 p.m.; 3 p.m .; 5 p.m.; 7 p.m . and 9
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Saturday: 7 a.m .; 9 a.m .; 11 a.m .; 1 p.m .; 3 p.m.; 5 p.m .; 7 p.m . and
9p.m .
Sunday: 7 a.m .; 9 a.m .; 11 a.m .; 1 p.m .; 3 p.m .; 5 p.m .; 7 p.m. and 9
p.m .
Note: All transportation services provided by Lock\wod are free to
the tenants. We will also modify and expand these service limes
upon requests from tenants.
The project sponsor hopes that MSHDA will determine the Lock\wod
15-passenger bus is a comparable transportation solution. It will be
available 7 days per week and have the capacity to adequately serve
all the tenants in the development. Lockwooct·s bus will allow each
tenant in the development to take at least two trips during the week
and weekends.
All transportation services are free of charge. Tenants will not be
charged for Lock\wod's bus transportation services.
Suburban Authority for Regional Transportation {SMART)
The Suburban Mobility Authority for Regional Transportation
{SMARn public bus services will provide additional bus services to
the tenants of John Grace Arms. All vehides are equipped with lifts
to accommodate wheelchairs and scooters, as well as for those
using canes and walkers. Floor plans for the SMART bus are on the
follO'Mng page.
The City d Southfield in partnership with SMART offers a SMART
Connector Service. The SMART Connector service is a rurb-to-curb
bus service. Passengers will be picked up from John Grace Arms
and transported to fun service public bus stops and destinations.
There are three fixed SMART bus routes located less than 3/4 of a
mile from John Grace Arms. The fixed routes are:
3.Route280
At the intersection of Grand River Avenue and Poinciana Street,
approximately 0.4 miles southwest of John Grace Arms. there is a
public bus stop for Routes 305 and 805. Please see the endosed
map. Route 305 and 805 connects to Grand River and downtown
Farmington plus Farmington Hills, Southfield, Redford and
Downtown Detroit.
Also induded is a SMART bus route map and schedule for Route
280 which offers services on Grand Rlver, Beech Daily and
Middlebelt south connects Dearborn Heights, Garden City, Romulus
and Taylor. SMART's connector and TOSS services will connect
tenants to these routes from Monday through Friday
Service hours are Monday through Friday from 6 a.m. to 6 p.m .
Residents can make reservations from Monday through Friday from
7 a.m. to 4 p.m . Connected trips can be booked up to six days in
advance for medical trips and two days in advance for general trips.
Please see a brochure plus a letter prepared by Daniel Wlitehouse
of SMART regarding their Connector Service. The three fixed bus
routes are inducted as well.
Transportation of Southfield Seniors (TOSS)
The City d Southfield and SMART also offer TOSS (Transportation
of Southfield Seniors), which can be contacted Monday through
Friday from 8 a.m. to 1 :30 p.m. Like the SMART Connector Service,
riders can transfer to other bus services. TOSS Is available for any
persons aged 55 and older.
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Per the City Southfield's website, please find detailed information
regarding the TOSS service.
1.Route 305
https://www.cityofsouthfield.comMsitors/transportation
2.Route 805
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Mobility is critical to people of all ages. It provides independence.
Those without the ability to drive often feel "trapped" in their homes.
The City cl Southfield and SMART are continuously working together
to improve community transit service to accommodate the needs of
Southfield's senioc citizens and those with disabilities.
TOSS is currently taking reservations foc medical appointments.
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TOSS' service times are Monday through Friday from 8:30 a.m . to
3:30 p.m. (https:/Jw.vw.myride2.comi\ransit_providers/tosstransportation4-southfleld-seniOfS/)
At any time, residents are unable to use the SMART Connector
Service or TOSS transportation services, Lockwood Management
will offer free bus services. Residents must notify management
within 24 hours of their planned trips.
PACE Southeast Michigan
Properly w:irn facemasks are required for all riders, inducting
assistants and drivers. Buses are deaned after each ride.
Appointments are scheduled on a first-cane, first-serve basis. If
there are questions or to schedule an appointment please call (248)
796-4658. Leaving a name, phone number and a short message will
be best when looking to schedule an appointment.
If you need other transportation services, please call the SMART
Connector at (866) 962-5515. TOSS uses lift-equipped buses to
transport senior residents (age 60+) who reside in Southfield or
Lathrup Village within the boundaries of Fourteen Mile Rd. to the
nOfth , Eight Mile Rd. to the south , Middlebelt to the west, and
Coolidge to the east.
TOSS accommodates permanently physically challenged persons of
any age. TOSS does not provide same day or next day
transportation.
Per PACE's website: https:/Jw.vw.pacesemi.org/supportive-services
"Our goal is to provide our frail senior community members with the
care, medical treatment and support they need to achieve the
highest quality of life - while staying independent as long as
possible. Our elder care experts offer an alternative to nursing home
placement that features comprehensive, coordinated care for a
senior's medical, social and physical needs, while also providing
peace of mind foc family caregivers."
"In addition to the main PACE services we offer, our expert elder
care team helps coordinate other supportive services determined
necessary to improve and maintain your overall health -while
offering support to you and your caregivers.
Our supportive services indude:
For information and arrangements please call the TOSS office at
(248) 796-4658, Monday through Friday from 8:00 a.m . - 1:30 p.m .
or leave a message after hours and we will get back to you as soon
as possible, within business hours. A donation d $5 per round tnp is
suggested. Additional donations are welcome.
Ascension Health and Beaumont Hospitals, CDBG {Community
Development Block Grant), the City cl Southfield and SMART, jointly
make this transportation possible by grants."
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Skilled home health and home care services
•Wound care
• Patient and caregiver education
•Intravenous oc nutrition therapy
•Injections
•Monitoring serious illness and unstable health status
Medical transportation services
•Non-emergency rides to health care visits
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•Caregiver support group
•Respite
Rehabilitation and durable medical equipment
•VI/heel chairs
•Oxygen
•Diabetic testing supplies
Personal care needs
•Incontinence supplies
•Assistance with Activities of Daily Living in our center and your
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Please see a brochure regarding PACE of Southeast Michigan.
Lockwood- Passenger bus to be Used for Transportation Services
Funding for free transportation has been a long-term commitment of
Lockwood Management and no tenants will be charged for utilizing
Lockwood Management's bus services.
Respectfully Submitted,
Janay Eisenmenger
Director of Acquisitions
John Grace Arms - On-Site Bus Stop Shelter
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2019 - 2020 Qualified Allocation Plan
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STATE OF MICHIGAN LOW~NCOME HOUSING TAX CREDIT
PROGRAM
I. INTRODUCTION
The Low-Income Housing Tax Credit (LIHTC) program offers a
financial incentive to construct, rehabilitate,
and operate rental housing for low-income tenants. Under federal
law, LIHTC is required to be allocated
according to a Qualified Allocation Plan (QAP) . The QAP is required
to set forth selection criteria used to
determine housing priorities appropriate to local conditions In
Michigan .
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II. TAX-EXEMPT ANANCED PROJECTS NOT SUBJECT TO
HOUSING CREDIT CEJUNG
In accordance with Section 42 c:A the Internal Revenue Code (IRC),
tax-exempt bond financed projects are
required to satisfy certain basic requirements for allocation of LIHTC
and are subject to the OAP. These
projects are not, however, subject to the UHTC allocation limits,
other OAP requirements from which they
are expressly excepted , or as determined by the Michigan State
Housing Development Authority (MSHDA)
(see Tab W - Policy Bulletins).
Ill. APPROVAL AND MODIFICATION OF THE QUALIFIED
ALLOCATION PLAN
A. QAP APPROVAL
Pursuant to federal and state law, the OAP 0ncluding the LIHTC
Scoring Criteria) shall be prepared by
MSHDA, submitted to the legislature, and approved by the Governor
after notice to the public and public
hearing. Notice of the public hearing will be published on MSHDA's
website and in newspapers of
general circulation throughout the state at least fourteen (14) days
prior to the public hearing. MSHDA
will hold one informational hearing prior to publication of proposed
changes to the QAP. Mer proposed
changes have been published, MSHDA \Nill conduct at least three
public hearings, held at such time and
place as determined by MSHDA; however, MSHDA shall give priority
to locations that provide the greatest
opportunity for public comment. Comments received shall be taken
into consideration, and a \Mitten
summary of such comments shall be provided to the Governor
together with the request for approval of
the OAP. The QAP, once approved, is valid until it is changed by
MSHDA.
B. OAP MODIFICATION
To the extent necessary to facilitate the award of UHTCs that would
not otherwise be awarded, the OAP
may be modified by MSHDA from time to time pursuant to State law.
This modification process will
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follow the approval process delineated above unless specifically
stated otherwise in this document.
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IV. AUTHORITY DISCLAIMER AND ANTI-DISCRIMINATION
OBLIGATION
MSHDA shall administer the QAP and the allocation of LIHTC in a
manner consistent with both federal
housing policy governing non-discrimination and MSHDA's statutory
non-discrimination requirements.
The allocation of LIHTCs is made at the sole discretion of MSHDA
MSHDA and its board members,
directors, employees, and agents shall not be liable for any matters
arising out of or in relation to the
allocation or administration of LIHTC.
MSHDA may waive any requirements and/or conditions that are not
mandated by Section 42 of the IRC
on a case-by-case basis, including project-specific deadlines, as
deemed necessary to facilitate the
administration of the LIHTC Program, to address unforeseen
circumstances, and that it detennines are In
the best interest of the State of Michigan. In the event a waiver is
granted under any of these or other
circumstances, a fee may be charged. Additionally, MSHDA may
make adjustments to standard
policies/procedures, if needed, to resolve any administrative errors
made in the evaluation of a.n
application brought to MSHDA's attention following conclusion of a
funding round. Potential remedies
may indude, but are not limited to making an allocation of credit from
a future funding round to a project
that would have otherwise received an award of credit. To the extent
that anything contained in this QAP
does not meet the minimum requirements of federal law or
regulation, or state law or regulation, such
law or regulation shall take precedence over the OAP.
V. FUNDING ROUND AND PRIORITIES
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(8) Projects applying for Section 811 assistance must submit a
Section 811 application by the deadline
shown below.
A timeline of applicable deadlines leading up to and induding each
funding round is included below:
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ST AGE OF PROCESS DUE DATE
Initial Meeting with CoC Deadline (PSH Only) Friday, July 16, 2018
Market Study Request Due Date Monday, July 16, 2018
Waiver Request Due Date Wednesday, August 1, 2018
Preservation Level 1 Review Due Date Wednesday, August 15, 2018
4%19% Mixed Transaction Level 1 Review Due Date Wednesday,
August 15, 2018
Addendum Ill Initial Concept Letter Due Date (PSH Only)
Wednesday, August 15, 2018
Affordable Assisted Living Steering Committee Review
Packet Due Date Wednesday, August 15, 2018
Section 811 Application Deadline Friday, September 21 , 2018
Funding Round Due Date Monday, October 1, 2018
Expected Award Notification Date January of 2019
Initial Meeting with CoC Deadline (PSH Only) Monday, December 3,
2018
Market Study Request Due Date Tuesday, January 15, 2019
Waiver Request Due Date Friday, February 1, 2019
Preservation Level 1 Review Due Date Friday, February 15, 2019
4%19% Mixed Transaction Level 1 Review Due Date Friday,
February 15, 2019
Addendum Ill Initial Concept Letter Due Date (PSH Only) Friday,
February 15, 2019
Affordable Assisted Living Steering Committee Review
Packet Due Date Friday, February 15, 2019
Section 811 Application Deadline Friday, Marcil 22, 2019
Funding Round Due Date Monday, April , 1, 2019
Expected Award Notification Date July of 2019
Initial Meeting with CoC Deadline (PSH Only) Monday, June 3, 2019
Market Study Request Due Date Monday, July 15, 2019
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A. FUNDING ROUNDS
The Authority intends to hold two competitive funding rounds for both
2019 LIHTC and for 2020 LIHTC,
both of which, will be publicized on the Authority's \1/ebsite
(www.michigan.gov/mshda) .
Prior to each funding round , the following items must be completed:
(1) Permanent Supportive Housing projects must have their initial
meeting with the Continuum of
Care (CoC)
(2) All applicants will be required to submit a request for market
study in accordance with the
requirements found in Exhibit I.VI. attached hereto and the
guidelines found in Tab C of MSHDA's
Combined Application for Rental Housing Programs.
(3) Preservation projects will be required to submit dorumentation
prior to the funding round
deadline to determine if the project is competitive under the MSHDA
Gap Financing Program
(please see Section 8 .1. for further information on this process)
(4) Developments that are proposing the complete a 4%/9% Mixed
Transaction will be required to
submit documentation to MSHDA prior to the funding round deadline
(5) Any projects requesting a waiver of any OAP provisions as part of
an application for a competitive
funding round must submit their request in writing prior to the funding
round deadline
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(6) Permanent Supportive Housing projects that are applying for the
first time will be required to
meet with the Addendum Ill Review Team prior to the deadline
highlighted below
(J) Affordable Assisted Living (AAL) projects must submit a review
packet to the AAL Steering
Committee for review and approval prior to the funding round
deadline.
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Wci.ver Request Due Date Thursday, August 1, 2019
Preservation Level 1 Review Due Date Thursday, August 15, 2019
4%/9% Mixed Transaction Level 1 Review Due Date Thursday,
August 15, 2019
Addendum Ill Initial Concept Letter Due Date (PSH Only) Thursday,
August 15, 2019
Affordable Assisted Living Steering Committee Review
Packet Due Date Thursday, August 15, 2019
Section 811 Application Deadline Friday, September 20, 2019
Funding Round Due Date Tuesday, October 1, 2019
Expected Award Notification Date January of 2020
Initial Meeting with CoC Deadline (PSH Only) Monday, December 2,
2019
Market Study Request Due Date Wednesday, January 15, 2020
Waiver Request Due Date Monday, February 3, 2020
Preservation Level 1 Review Due Date Tuesday, February 18, 2020
4%19% Mixed Transaction Level 1 Review Due Date Tuesday,
February 18, 2020
Addendum Ill Initial Concept Letter Due Date (PSH Only) Tuesday,
February 18, 2020
Affordable Assisted Living Steering Committee Review
Packet Due Date Tuesday, February 18, 2020
Section 811 Application Deadline Friday, March 20, 2020
Funding Round Due Date Wednesday, April 1, 2020
Expected Award Notification Date July of 2020
Fall 2018 Funding Round
Spring 2019 Funding Round
Fall 2019 Funding Round
Spring 2020 Funding Round
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Applications must be received in either MSHDA's Lansing office or
MSHDA's Detroit office no later than
5:00 pm on the applicable application due date shown above.
Applications may be sent via delivery
service (e.g., post, overnight, and courier) or personal handdelivered service. Applications received after
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delivery time will be granted .
B. FUNDING PRIORITIES
MSHDA will award LI HT Cs to different Categories of housing, as well
as to meet Statutory Set-Asides (as
further defined below) of the state's total credit ceiling.
Funding Priorities Percentage
Categories
Preservation Category 25%
Permanent Supportive Housing (PSH) Category 25%
Open Category 25%
Strategic Investment Category 10%
Undesignated 15%
1. PRESERVATION CATEGORY
Allocated to Preservation projects meeting the requirements found in
Section VII.B., Exhibit II attached
hereto, and that follow the process outlined below:
For a preservation project to be eligible to apply for 9% LIHTC, it
must first be submitted to MSHDA in
order to evaluate v.tiether the project is likely to be competitive under
the MSHDA Gap Financing
Program. Please note that existing United States Department of
Agriculture Rural Development ("USDA
RD") financed preservation projects that are composed of 49 units or
less will not be required to submit
to MSHDA under the process outlined below before applying under
the 9% Preservation Category. The
Gap Financing Program makes available a certain amount of gap
financing to be used in combination with
MSHDA tax-exempt bond financing . To perfonn its evaluation,
MSHDA will consider the following :
1. The financial viability of a project based on the pro-forma analysis,
site, and preliminary market
analysis;
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2. The overall capacity and experience of the development team;
and
3. The likelihood that the project will be competitive and be able to
proceed with the funds available
in the Gap Financing Program. To determine how competitive a
project is likely to be, MSHDA
will primarily evaluate a project's soft to hard debt ratio, v.tiich is
used to rank the proposals in
the Gap Financing Program, to determine if the project appears to be
competitive as compared
to the current or most recent Gap Financing Program funding round .
Applicants are encouraged
to view rankings of recent Gap Financing rounds on MSHDA's
website to determine with more
certainty whether or not their project has a competitive soft to hard
debt ratio. All Preservation
projects (with the exception of existing Rural Development financed
preservation projects that
are composed of 49 units less) will be required to submit under the
MSHDA Gap Financing
Program regardless of their soft to hard debt ratio. Applicants snould
note that MSHDA is now
allowing aU developments that have a low soft debt to hard debt ratio
(the number will be
updated by MSHDA from time to time) to submit for MSHDA Tax
Exempt Bond/4% CrediVGap
Funding at any time, without being required to submit as part of the
competitive Gap Financing
Round.
Following the analysis above, if, based on MSHDA's determination , a
project appears to be a strong
candidate for the Gap Financing Program , the project will need to be
completed using the Gap Financing
Program and will be ineligible for 9% LIHTC. However, if, based on
MSHDA's determination , a
preservation project is unlikely to be competitive in the Gap
Financing Program; the project will be eligible
to submit for consideration as part of a 9% funding round under the
Preservation Category. Additionally,
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preservation projects that do compete
under the Gap Financing Program, but that cannot move forward
using gap financing with a MSHDA taxexempt
loan (as determined by MSHDA as part of the Gap Financing
Program) will be able to submit an
application for credi1t as part of Preservation Category for 9% LIHTC
in a future round . An applicant will
not be able to submit a preservation project for 9% credit unless the
project has been submitted to
MSHDA, reviewed based on the criteria above, and MSHDA has
determined that the project is unlikely to
be competitive using the available gap funding paired with a taxexempt bond loan.
The Preservation Category will be made available in both the
October and April 9% LIHTC funding rounds
of each year. Because of this timeline, an applicant may be
evaluated by MSHDA at any time as long as
the submission of the required documentation takes place at least 45
days in advance of the 9% funding
round in v.tlich the applicant intends to apply. In order to complete
the review outlined above, the
applicant must submit the LIHTC Application and the documents
listed under the Preliminary Project
Assessment portion of MSHDA's Addendum IV Exhibit Checklist.
MSHDA's determination of the project
as it relates to this assessment and the project's eligibility for 9%
LIHTC will be good for a period of one
year provided that there are no changes made to the project that
would cause it to be materially different
from what was originally reviewed under the determination. Mer one
year or in the case v.tiere there
are material differences in the application , another assessment
would need to be made by MSHDA to
determine a project's eligibility for future 9% LIHTC funding rounds.
For further darity, "material
differences· generally indudes, but is not limited to, any differences
in land and building costs, site work
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and hard construction costs, soft costs, income projections,
operating expense projections, replacement
reserve projections, equity pricing , soft sources, seller financing , and
any other funding sources from
interim operations or transfers of existing escrows. MSHDA is aware
that there are programmatic
differences between the 9% LIHTC Program and MSHDA Gap
Financing Program regarding developer fee
calculations, financing fees, and capitalized reserve requirements
and will generally not consider
differences in these areas to be material differences if they are solely
a result of the project taking
advantage of differing program requirements.
Projects that are ultimately eligible to be submitted in the 9%
Preservation Category portion of the funding
round will be evaluated and awarded based on the scoring criteria,
requirements, and process outlined in
this Qualified Allocation Plan.
2. PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING (PSH) CATEGORY
Allocated to projects setting aside at least the greater of 15 units or
35% of the units in the development
for new tenants that are PSH-eligible or that are preserving an
existing PSH project for which the project
will remain a PSH project; and that also meet the requirements of
Addendum Ill. A project that has more
than 75 PSH units is not eligible to be submitted unless a waiver is
granted by MSHDA Projects meeting
the definition of a PSH project, according to the Addendum Ill , must
be submitted in this Category.
3. OPEN CATEGORY
Allocated to projects not meeting the requirements for either the
Preservation Category or the PSH
Category.
4 . STRATEGIC INVESTMENT CATEGORY
Projects applying in any of the three Categories above can also
apply in this Strategic Investment Category
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requirements outlined in Exhibit Ill attached
hereto. Projects funded under this Strategic Investment Category will
not be subject to the standard
Scoring Criteria and will be evaluated solely based on the sufficiency
of the proposal based on Exhibit Ill
attached hereto and the usual threshold requirements. If MSHDA
determines that not all of the credit
under this Strategic Investment Category will be used , the credit will
be moved to the "Undesignated
Credir below for the funding rounds in which the Undesignated
Category is applicable. It is anticipated
that very few, if any, projects will meet the requirements to be funded
under this Category.
5. UNDESIGNATED CREDIT
The Undesignated Credit in the April 2019 and 2020 funding rounds
will be awarded in the following order:
a. MSHDA wll use its discretion to place projects awarded from the
Categories (induding the
Strategic Investment Category) in both the October and April funding
rounds into the Statutory
Set-Asides, wth the only goal being to fill the Statutory Set-Asides
from the projects already
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awarded. If any Statutory Set-Asides remain unmet, Undesignated
Credit will be used to fill the
remaining Statutory Set-Asides. Following the conclusion of each
funding round, MSHDA wll
post a list of awards, which wll indude an indication regarding which
Statutory Set-Aside each
project was awarded from.
b. After all Statutory Set-Asides have been met, any remaining
Undesignated Credit wll be
allocated to the highest scoring unfunded projects in the round .
In performing its analysis of credit to be awarded in the
Undesignated Category, MSHDA will not take into
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Co-developers will be allocated tax credits against the per-Principal
limit based upon the percentage of interest in the
cash-paid (non-deferred) portion of the development fee, including
any costs or other fees that would typically be
included in and paid from the developer fee as described in Section
X below. For example, if co-developers retain a
fifty percent (50%) interest each in the cash-paid (non-defe,red)
portion of the developer fee, fifty percent (50%) of the
tax credits will be counted against each of the developers perPrincipal caps. Parties that have an identity of interest
may be treated as a single developer (or Principal) for purposes of
the cap if MSHDA concludes, based on the relevant
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facts and circumstances, that the submission of an application by
one or more of the applicants is intended, in whole or
in part, as a means of circumventing the annual credit ceiling perPrincipal cap. If a Principal has not exceeded its annual
cap, and there is enough credit under the per Principal cap limits to
fund 80% of the proposed project, then MSHDA , in
its discretion, may consider 1) fully funding that project; 2) awarding
an amount less than the amount requested, but
that still makes the project feasible; or 3) awarding only the
remaining 80% if it is enough credit to make the project
financially viable.
For this purpose, a Principal is defined as any person or entity
receiving a portion of the development fee, which shall
also be reflected in the Development Team Information portion of the
Low-Income Housing Tax Credit Program
Application.
3. If the credit remaining in a Category is sufficient to fund 80% of the
credit amount approved for
the next highest scoring project in the corresponding Category,
MSHDA may 1) consider fully
funding that project by taking the remaining credit from the 15%
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consideration any points for Permanent Supportive Housing awarded
in Section F of the LIHTC Scoring
Criteria. All other criteria outlined in the LIHTC Scoring Criteria will
apply. PSH projects awarded from
the Undesignated Credit will not be eligible to reduce the number of
PSH units in the development or
make changes to areas of the project for which points under the PSH
section of the scoring criteria were
awarded .
C. STATUTORY SET-ASIDES
• Nonprofits, 10% - Qualified nonprofit organizations as required
by Section 42 of the IRC and that
meet the requirements outlined in Addendum I.
• Rural Housing, 10% - Proposed or existing housing projects that
fall into one or more of the
following categories: a) financed by a loan guaranteed by Rural
Housing Services or a successor
agency; b) funded by a federal program for the development of rural
housing; or c) is located in
an area other than a metropolitan area. A list of non-eligible rural
communities can be found
on MSHDA's website: Rural Communities List
• Elderly, 10".4- Projects in which 100% of the units serve tenants
that confomi to the federal
agency(s) definition of elderly or the MSHDA definition of elderly
under the MSHDA Act.
· Eligible Distressed Areas, 30°.4 - Housing projects in eligible
distressed areas, which indude
proposed or existing housing projects in distressed areas pursuant to
MCL 125.1411(u), A list of
Eligible Distressed Areas can be found on MSHDA's website at
Eligible Distressed Areas List
With the exception of the nonprofit set-aside, if the LIHTC allocated
falls below the set-aside threshold by October 1 of the
year in which that credit amount is authorized, MSHDA may
reapportion unallocated LIHTC amounts thereafter.
D. LIHTC ALLOCATION LIMITS
1. Maximum award per project: $1 ,500,000
2. Maximum award per Principal (annual credit cemng): $3,000,000
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that still makes the project
feasible ; or 3) award only the remaining amount of credit to a project
if it is shown to be financially
viable. Otherwise, MSHDA will either skip the project to fund the next
highest scoring project
that is financially viable with lesser credit or move the balance of the
credit to the Undesignated
Credit or the following funding round as applicable, at its sole
discretion.
E. WAIVER REQUESTS
Applicants requesting a waiver of any QAP provisions as part of an
application for a competitive funding
round must submit their request in 'Miting at least 60 days in
advance of all competitive funding rounds.
Any waiver request not submitted within these timeframes wll not be
considered . While it is not
anticipated that many requests wll be granted , MSHDA will
endeavor to provide responses to all waiver
requests no later than 30 days in advance of all funding rounds .
NOTE: This waiver request process does
not apply to projects seeking the use of alternative unde!Witing
standards other than those published by
MSHDA. Requests for the use of alternative unde!Wiling standards
may be made as part a a funding
round submission.
VI. LIHTC FUNDING ROUND PROCESS
MSHDA will hold two funding rounds for both 2019 credit and 2020
credit as outlined below. In each of
the funding rounds, allocations will be made to the highest scoring
projects in each of the Categories;
regardless of which Statutory Set-Aside(s) a project otherwise
qualifies for. Any credit that is not utilized
in any of the Categories from the October Funding Round wll be
moved to the April Funding Round for
each respective year. Amounts below are based on an estimated
annual credit ceiling of $26 million.
A. FUNDING ROUND#1 : OCTOBER 2018 & 2019 (APPRX 45% OF
ANNUAL CREDIT CEILING)
• Preservation Category- $3,900,000 (approx. 15%)
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15%)
• Open Category- $3,900,000 (approx. 15%)
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B. FUNDING ROUND #2: APRIL 2019 & 2020 (APPRX 45% OF
ANNUAL CREDIT CEILING)
• Preservation Category- $2 ,600,000 (approx. 10%)
• Permanent Supportive Housing Category - $2 ,600,000 (approx.
10%)
• Open Category- $2,600,000 (approx. 10%)
• Undesignated - $3,900,000 {approx. 15%)
C. STRATEGIC INVESTMENT CATEGORY- (APPROX. 10% OF
ANNUAL CREDIT CEILING)
The Strategic Investment category may be used to fund qualifying
developments from any competitive
funding round at any time at MSHDA's discretion. If MSHDA
determines that not all of the credit under
this Strategic Investment Category will be used , the credit will be
moved to the ··undesignated Credit" in
the April Funding Round of the corresponding year.
VII. ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS
Certain threshold requirements must be met for all projects, unless
otherwise stated in any Addenda or
Policy Bulletins, or waived. Proposals not meeting threshold
requirements will not be processed further.
A. GENERAL THRESHOLD REQUIREMENTS
The following Threshold requirements, described in greater detail in
Exhibit I attached hereto, will apply
to all projects:
1. Application Completeness
2. Project Narrative
3 . Site Control
4. Zoning
5. Utilities
6. Market Study
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8. Title Insurance Commitment
9. Financing
10. Acquisition Transfer
11 . Equity Investor Letter
12. Green Policy
13. Development Team Capacity
14. Affirmative Fair Housing Marketing Plan
15. Ownership Formation
16. Waiver of Qualified Contract
17. Vouchers and Public Housing
18. MSHDA Financing Signage
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19. Minimum Hard Construction Costs
20. Maximum Total Development Cost Per Unit Limit
21. Michigan Products
22. Phased Developments in the Same Building
B. THRESHOLD REQUIREMENTS - PRESERVATION PROJECTS
'Preservation' applies to the acquisition and renovation of existing
affordable properties, Wlich are
currently subject to a low income use restriction. For purposes of
determining Wlich category to apply
under, adaptive reuse projects, entirely vacant residential buildings,
and projects requiring demolition will
be ineligible to apply under the Preservation category, regardless of
whether or not project-based rental
subsidies are being preserved. Only Preservation projects that meet
this definition and the threshold
requirements outlined in Exhibit II attached hereto, in addition to the
General Threshold Requirements
may receive points for Preservation and apply under the
Preservation Category.
VIII. SELECTION CRITERIA
MSHDA will evaluate applications for LIHTC in accordance \\1th the
requirements of federal and state law
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based on the Scoring Criteria. The
Scoring Criteria is incorporated herein as though it were a part of the
body of this QAP. The general
areas w,ere projects can receive points in the Scoring Criteria
include, but are not limlted to: project
location, project financing , project characteristics, and development
team characteristics. For further
information on the scoring criteria and specific point values, please
refer to the Scoring Criteria. Under
no circumstances will any appflcation subject to a competitive
scoring process give rise to an entitlement
or legal right to an allocation of LIHTCs. The allocation of LIHTCs
shall be entirely at the discretion of
MSHDA.
A. HOUSING IN AREAS OF OPPORTUNITY & OTHER NOTES
As Is outlined in greater detail throughout this OAP, the Scoring
Criteria, and other applicable policy
documents, many of the policies that are in place within the 20192020 QAP are designed with the intent
of ensuring that affordable housing is available in areas of high
opportunity. To accomplish this, the
2019-2020 OAP places a great amount of emphasis on the strength
of a project's location by considering
many factors as further highlighted below. It is the intention of these
policies to develop and revitalize
housing in areas that have a significant quantity of community
amenities, offer tenants access to mobility
and jobs, and that will be a focal point for further future investment.
The following are key criteria within the OAP and other related
policies that have a direct correlation to
creating and/or preserving affordable housing and allowing lower
income residents to live in areas of
greater opportunity:
1. Proximity to Transportation
2. Proximity to Amenities
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3. Education, Health and Well-Being , Economic Security, and Jobs,
Goods, and Services
4. Developments located within an Opportunity Zone and/or a Rising
Tide Community
5. Developments near Downtowns/Corridors
6. Developments near an Employment Center
7. Neighborhood Investment Activity Areas
8 . Affordable/Market Rent Differential
9. Mixed Income Development
10. Rural Set-Aside
The OAP has a heavy emphasis on location because strong
locations have significant benefits for residents.
Among these benefits are the potential for enhanced quality of life,
proximity to employment, and
reduced transportation costs associated with living in walkable areas.
Residents desire to live and work
in locations w,ere there is a high quality of life and w,ere there are a
multitude of opportunities to
continue to better their current situation. Residents that are In need
of affordable housing are no
different in w,at they desire and affordable housing should be no
different in w,at it offers them. II is
for these reasons that the OAP intentionally focuses on areas of
opportunity.
Additionally, on March 7 , 2013, the Violence Against Women
Reauthorization Act 0/AWA) of 2013 was
signed into law. The reauthorization contained several updates to the
housing provisions lnduding a
number of legal obligations for owners and managers of rental
properties funded by LIHTC. The
Authority is committed to v,,,orking dosely with property owners to
ensure onsite compliance and
enforcement w,en necessary.
B. TIEBREAKERS
If, after evaluating projects based on the Scoring Criteria, two
projects have identical scores, MSHDA will
select between them according to this order of priority: lowest actual
amount of credit per unit; highest
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Criteria; lowest total development
cost per unit
C. RE-EVALUATION PROCESS
Following completion of a competitive funding round , if an applicant
believes there was an error made
during the review process or that an application was not evaluated
correctly , an applicant may contact
MSHDA to have a specific portion of the application that was
submitted re-evaluated . Any such request
must be made to MSHDA in writing within 7 days of MSHDA making
the awards public by posting a list of
awards to the MSHDA .....ebsite. For purposes of this re-evaluation ,
MSHDA will not consider any
additional documentation that was not provided with the application.
but may consider information
provided by an applicant intended to darify portions of the
application . MSHDA, in its sole discretion ,
will determine whether or not the re-evaluation of an application
submission should warrant an award of
LIHTC.
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IX. UNDERWRITING STANDARDS & APPLICATION OF BASIS
BOOST
In making its determination of the LIHTC dollar amount necessary for
the financial feasibility of a project
and its viability as a qualified low income housing project throughout
the initial credit period, MSHDA will
consider the sources and uses of funds and the total financing
planned for the project, and any proceeds
or receipts expected to be generated by reason of tax benefits.
HOWEVER, SUCH A DETERMINATION OF
FEASIBILITY BY MSHDA SHALL NOT BE CONSTRUED TO BE A
REPRESENTATION OR WARRANTY AS TO THE
FEASIBILITY OR VIABILITY OF THE PROJECT. Please see Exhibit
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X.FEEUMITS
A. DEVELOPMENT FEES
The total amount of any Q) developer fees, Qi) developer guaranty
fees, and Qii) consulting fees (excluding
fees to a third party, non-related construction manager induded and
paid from the construction contract) ,
will be no more than the maximum development fee allowed to a
project as outlined below.
1. DEVELOPMENT FEE - TAX-EXEMPT BOND FINANCED
PROJECTS
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For projects financed with tax-exempt bonds eligible for 4% credit,
the maximum development fee shall
be calculated as follows:
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a. For projects of 49 units or fewer, the development fee will be the
sum of the following :
I. 7.5% of acquisition costs
ii. 7.5% of project reserves
iii. 20% of all other development costs, exduding developer fee,
developer ovemead, and
developer consulting fee.
b. For projects of 50 units or more, the development fee will be the
sum of the following :
i. 7.5% of acquisition costs
ii. 7 .5% of project reserves
iii. 15% of all other development costs, excluding developer fee,
developer overhead, and
developer consulting fee.
NOTE: Tax-exempt bond financed projects seeking gap financing
from MSHDA will be eligible to receive a
maximum developer fee based on the calculations above. Ho-.vever,
please note that for purposes of
sizing the amount of gap financing that the project is eligible to
receive, the maximum developer fee will
be based on the lesser of the applicable calculation outlined above
or $2,100,000.
2. DEVELOPMENT FEE- 9% LIHTC PROJECTS
For all projects eligible for 9% LIHTC, the maximum development fee
shall be the lesser of $1 ,500,000 or
the sum of the following :
a . 7.5% of acquisition costs
b. 7.5% of project reserves
c. 15% of all other development costs. excluding developer fee,
developer overhead, and developer
consulting fee.
3. DEVELOPMENT FEE- OTHER CONSIDERATIONS
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on the underwriting process and standards to be used.
A APPLICATION OF BASIS BOOST
The "basis boost" has historically been applied to projects in hNo
ways:
i. Buildings located in a difficult to develop area (DOA) or in a
qualified census tract (QCT)
ii. Section 42(d)((5) provides that state housing credit agencies may
award up to a 30 percent
"basis boost" to buildings that States determine need the boost to be
economically feasible,
effective for buildings placed in service after July 30, 2008. This
additional increase is not
available to buildings located in a Qualified Census Tract, HUDdesignated Difficult
Development Areas, or tax-exempt bond financed projects; and it
must be awarded prior to
the issuance of 8609s, subject to tax credit ceiling being available.
The Protecting Americans from Tax Hikes (PATH) Ad of 2015 made
permanent the fixed 9% credit rate.
As a result of that change, in an effort to ensure the efficient
allocation of the LIHTC resource, the QAP is
limiting the maximum allowable basis boost for any 9% LIHTC
project to 20% based on the criteria outlined
in Exhibit V.
Properties meeting any of the criteria found in Exhibit V attached
hereto are eligible fO( a basis boost up
to the percentages listed therein , although they are still subject to the
usual evaluation of minimum
credits needed to achieve feasibility.
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In addition to the fee limits outlined above, the following
considerations must also be given with regard
to the development fee:
• If either 1) a new building or physical structure is split into hNo or
more phases, or (2) an existing
project, building, or physical structure is split into t'M> or more
phases, the aggregate
development fee for all phases shall not exceed the limitations stated
above.
• For projects involving acquisition and rehabilitation , an amount
equal to at least 5% of the
acquisition cost of the land and building(s) must be allocated to the
acquisition of the property
(and the acquisition eligible basis, if applicable) for purposes of
attribution to the development
fee.
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• Up to 50% of the total development fee can be deferred to cover a
gap in funding sources as long
as the entire amount will be paid within fifteen (15) years. If the
proforma in the application
indicates that cash flow is insufficient to repay the deferred
development fee within 15 years, the
Applicant must provide an explanation in the narrative as to how the
deferred development fee
will be repaid.
B. CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT ITEMS
• General Requirements - 6% of construction costs, exdusive of
builder profit, builder overhead and
general requirements.
• Builder Overhead - 2% of construction costs, exclusive of builder
profit and builder overhead.
• Builder Profit - 6% of construction costs , exclusive of builder profit
C. CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT
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�If a construction manager or a consultant serving a similar capacity
(as determined by MSHDA) is not
included in the construction contract, then any construction
management or consulting fee must be
included in and paid from the developer's fee. If a construction
management or consultant fee (paid to
a related or unrelated third party) is induded in the construction
contract, it must be induded in and
subject to the above fee limits relating to General Requirements,
Builder Overhead, and Builder Profit.
Excess fees will be deducted from total development costs when
performing the gap calculation.
D. IDENTITY OF INTEREST FEES
If an identity of interest exists between the Applicant and the General
Contractor, incentive fees may only
be paid to the extent that they are induded in the above mentioned
fee limitations. A general contractor
may act as a subcontractor and may be entitled to additional
overhead and profit otherwise payable to
an independent subcontractor as long as the overhead and profit is
determined to be within industry
standards at the sole discretion of MSHDA. However, the general
contractor's overhead , profit. and
general requirements that may be induded as allowable project
costs are limited to the percentages
noted above.
XI. FIRST EVALUATION AND AWARD OF RESERVATIONS
Project applications that indude all required information and
documentation in a form and manner
acceptable to MSHDA, and that meet or exceed the QAP's threshold
requirements and underwriting
standards will be eligible to be evaluated for receipt of a Reservation
and Carryover Allocation of LIHTC.
However, applications will only be evaluated if MSHDA determines
that the application Is in a position to
be competitive for an award of credit.
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Following the award of credit, projects are expected to move forward
with closing on financing sources
and commencement of construction in a timely manner. V\/hile a
project will not need to demonstrate
closing and commencement of construction until the 10%
Certification deadline shown below, to allow
MSHDA to monitor the progression of projects, owners will be
required to submit progress reports to
MSHDA regular1y during this period of time. Failure to submit
accurate progress reports on a timely
basis may result in negative points on future projects or a loss of
credit to the project.
XII. SECOND EVALUATION
All projects receiving an allocation of 9% LIHTC must provide
evidence, acceptable to MSHDA and in
accordance with any applicable federal regulations, from a Certified
Public Accountant that more than
10% of the taxpayer's reasonably anticipated basis in the proje ~ (as
of the dose of the second calendar
year following the calendar year of the allocation) is incurred within
12 months of the allocation date.
Additionally, a second financial review of the project based on
updated project sources and uses as well
as updated project income and expenses will be conducted at the
time this certification Is submitted in
accordance with the procedures described in Exhibit IV attached
hereto.
In conjunction with the submission of the above items to satisfy the
federal 10% Certification
requirements, all Applicants, induding those 'Nith projects with only
4% credits, must submit to MSHDA
acceptable evidence of the following items which can be found in the
10% Certification Exhibit Checklist
on MSHDA's website. Failure to provide such documentation may
result in the allocation being rescinded.
The items required to be submitted are:
· Partnership Agreement or Operating Agreement.
• Documentation of the equity price to be paid to the owner, if not
identified in the Partnership
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Agreement or Operating Agreement.
• For all projects that are relying on tax abatement for financial
feasibility, a copy of the projectspecific
resolution , if not provided at the time of application.
• Record of the disbursement of the equity or construction loan.
• Recorded notice of commencement (or evidence that the notice
has been received for recording)
unless on tribal land.
• Recorded deed to the property (or evidence that the deed has
been received for recording) or longterm
lease on tribal land.
• All building permits necessary to begin construction, or a letter
from the municipality stating that
the permits will be issued upon payment of fees.
• Appraisal for all projects having an acquisition cost as a part of
the total project costs, consistent
with Policy Bulletin #8 to ensure the most effective and efficient use
of LIHTC. For scattered site
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projects, this requirement will be evaluated on a case-by-case basis.
• Capital Needs Assessment dated within 1 year of the 10% Test
application due date. All Capital
Needs Assessments must be completed in accordance with Exhibit II
attached hereto, and Tab Z of
MSHDA's Combined Application .
• Updated project schedule. pro-forma financial information, and
sources and uses statement.
• Fully executed copy of the MSHDA Green Policy Certification and,
if required by MSHDA Green
Policy, proof of project registration with either Enterprise Green
Community Partners or U.S Green
Building Council.
• An Independent Accountant's Report on Applying Agreed-Upon
Procedures, certifying that 10% of
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the project's costs will have been incurred by the due date. (Not
applicable to projects financed
with tax-exempt bonds utilizing 4% a-edits not subject to the annual
housing credit ceiling)
XJII. FINAL EVALUATION
MSHDA wiU further evaluate the project following the date all of the
buildings in a project are placed in
service, including a site visit if deemed necessary by MSHDA, to
ensure that all program requirements
have been met and to review the project prior to issuance of IRS
Form 8609. To begin this process, a
request for a LIHTC Regulatory Agreement must be submitted to
MSHDA no later than November 1st of
the year a project places in service.
In addition to the issuance of the LIHTC Regulatory Agreement,
when the project/building is placed in
service and prior to the issuance of a Form 8609, the owner must
submit to MSHDA acceptable evidence
of the items listed below. The placed in service application must be
submitted to MSHDA on or before
February 1st of the year after the project is placed in service.
Applicants are also encouraged to refer to
the LIHTC Placed in Service Exhibit Checklist, which can be found
on MSHDA's website for further detail
regarding these requirements. The documentation required is as
follows:
1 . Copy of executed and recorded deed to property showing
partnership as owner (or long-term
lease showing partnership as lessee if on tribal land), including
correct property description.
2. Copy of updated ownership entity formation records approved by
the Department of Licensing
and Regulatory Affair's Corporations Division
3. First Year Credit Statement
4. Updated application .
5. Independent, third party final owner's and contractor's cost
certifications for all projects.
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6. Certificates of occupancy (or their equivalent for rehabilitation
work). Additionally, owners
must also submit a copy of the same to MSHDA Compliance for
each building in the development
within five (5) business days after each certificate becomes
available.
7. Final executed limited partnership agreement or operating
agreement and all attachments.
8. Copy of executed and recorded permanent mortgage and other
permanent financing sources.
9. Color photograph of project.
10. Form 8821 , Tax Information Authorization naming MSHDA as the
appointee to receive tax
information.
11 . A check for Compliance Monitoring Fees.
12. Assignment or transfer agreement of the rental subsidy that has
been approved by the
appropriate agency, if applicable.
13. A copy of the project's latest financial audit (if available) .
14. Fully executed copy of the MSHDA Green Policy Certification
and, if required by MSHDA Green
Policy, proof ci project Certification with either Enterprise Green
Community Partners or U.S
Green Building Council.
15. Updated Environmental and/or Marketing documentation, if
applicable.
16. Fl,jly executed Michigan Based Product certification, Visitable
Units Certification , Barrier Free
Units Certification , Total Project Square Footage Certification, and
as-built drawings of the
accessible community space.
17. Subsidy Layering Review application and HUD 2880 form (If
applicable).
XIV. HOUSING CHOICE VOUCHERS
This QAP awards LIHTC through a competitive process that can also
serve as a form of competitive
selection fOf purposes of app6cations fOf project-based vouchers and
other focms ci assistance. In
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service at the end the second calendar year after the date the
Carryover Allocation. In extremeJy
unusual circumstances that are beyond the contra ci the developer,
MSHDA may allow the credit to be
returned and may issue a Carryover Alloca ·on in the year in wiich
the credit is returned without the
necessity ci competing for funding provided certain conditions are
met. Such a request win be evaluated
as a facts and circumstances test. Requests fOf an exchange of
credit may not be applied for prior to
October 1st ci the year in wiich the project was required to place in
service, unless the Authority
determines that extenuating circunstances warrant an earlier
exchange a credit. A fee equal to 10% of
the annual credit award .,,,,;11 be assessed m conjunction with an
exchange ci cre<ft
At no time .,,,,; any project be allowed more than three calendar years
from the date ci initial allocation
to project completion unless approved by MSHDA.
XVII. FEES
All app6cations must be accompanied by a check or money order in
an amount equal to $45 for each
proposed IOYrincome unit, with a $2,500 maximum limit This fee is
non-refundable and must be paid
in each funding round in Yklich a project is seeking to be SCOred
and/or evaluated. A fee ci $100 will be
assessed each time a check is returned to MSHDA for non-sufficient
funds.
For any project that receives an award of credit, MSHDA will charge
a fee equal to 6% ex the annual LIHTC
dollar amount reserved for a project. A sum equal to 3% of the
annual LIHTC dalar amount shall be
submitted to MSHDA at the time ex Reservation. The remaining 3%
shall be paid at the time ci the
10% Certification, wiich is one year following the issuance of the
Reservation.
In addition to the fees listed above, MSHDA may establish such
other fees as may be necessary to
effectively administer the program. Such fees may indude, but are
not limited to, charges to process
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particular, MSHDA will continue to make project-based vouchers
available on a case-by-case basis to
projects that agree to set-aside at least five units for Permanent
Supportive Housing.
XV. PROJECT OR DEVELOPMENT TEAM CHANGES
Owners will not be allowed to make changes to a project that would
result in a change to any of the
specific items for wiich points were awarded , unless extraordinary
and well-documented circumstances
would warrant il Any such changes to a project that require a rescoring or re-evaluation which causes
the project's position to fall below its original position may cause the
allocation of LIHTC to be rescinded
or an assessment of negative points on future applications.
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Additionally, Reservations, and/or Carryover Allocations are nontransferable either to another entity or
within the same entity where there is a change in control or general
partner interests, except with the
express written consent of MSHDA, it being the explicit intention of
the QAP to prevent one party from
obtaining such a Reservation and/Of Carryover Allocation in order to
sell or broker its interest in the
proposal (except fOf syndication purposes). Because all
representations made with respect to the
owner, applicant, developer or related party or entity, or any member
of the development team, their
experience and previous participation are material to the evaluation
made by MSHDA, it is not expected
that MSHDA's consent will be granted for such transfers unless a
new application Is submitted and scores
no less than the original application, and the transfer is a ben fit for
the project.
XVI. EXCHANGE OF CREDIT
In certain unusual circumstances. delays may occur Yklich will
prevent the project from being placed in
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waiver requests, changes in CM11ership, and site visits. MSHDA shall
publish a schedule ci such fees 60
days prior to implementation (see Fee Schedule Pa1cy Bulletin) .
Compliance monitoring fees will be charged for the credit period as
follows:
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• All units fOf which an allocation of credit was received on or after
January 1, 2012 must pay the
sum of $475 per low income unit, wiich amount wi cover the initial
15 year compliance
monitoring period and is payable prior to issuance of Form 8609.
Also, a fee ci $25 per UHTC
unit ·11 be charged annually during the extended use period.
• All units for which an allocation ci credit was received on or after
January 1, 2011 , but before
January 1, 2012 must pay the sum
$450 per low income unit,
which amount will cover the initial
15 year compliance monitoring period and is payable prior to
issuance of Form 8609. Also, a fee
of 20 per UHTC unit will be charged annually during the extended
use period.
• All units for which an allocation d credit was received on or after
January 2008, but before
January 1, 2011 must pay the sum of $450 per low income unit,
which amount win cover the entire
15 year compliance monitoring period and the extended use period
and is payable prior to
issuance of Form 8609.
• All units for which an allocation of credit was received on or after
January 1, 2001 but before
January 1, 2008 must pay the sum of $300 per low income unit,
which amount will cover the entire
monitoring period and is payable prior to issuance of Form 8609.
• All units that received an allocation of credit prior to January 1,
1993, and all projects financed by
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may elect to submit a sum
equal to $15 per low income unit on an annual basis for the
remainder of the compliance period,
or may opt to make one payment similar to that described above.
• With the exception of projects financed by Rural Development, all
projects that received an
allocation of credit prior to January 1, 2001 must pay an additional
inspection fee of $30 for each
unit to be inspected once every three years. Projects financed by
Rural Development must pay
an additional fee of $20 per each unit to be inspected once every
three years. This fee shall be
paid at the time of submission of the annual owner certifications.
Noncompliance Fees
• MSHDA v.iill assess a fee of $100 if an owner fails to have a
representative present for a scheduled
tenant file audit and/or physical inspection which results in the
inability to conduct the file audit
and/or physical inspection.
• MSHDA v.iill assess a fee of $50 per unit for significant and
repeated noncompliance issues.
Failure to submit any compliance or inspection fee v.iill be considered
non-compliance.
Compliance monitoring fees are subject to change based on
changes in costs associated with
administration of the compliance monitoring function by MSHDA and
other changes in MSHDA and/or IRS
mandated monitoring requirements.
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XVIII. COMPLIANCE MONITORING
Ov.11ers receiving an allocation
UHTC shall be required to meet
minimum compfiance requirements
and to follow the requirements ouWned in MSHDA's LIHTC
Compliance Manual, which is available on
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MSHDA's website. Please see Exhibit VI attached hereto for further
compliance monitoring
requirements.
XIX. COMBINED APPLICATION, POLICY BULLETINS AND
ADDENDA
Additional program requirements are set forth in the Policy Bulletins,
MSHDA's Combined Application,
and the applicable Addenda. MSHDA reserves the right to modify the
Combined Application, Policy
Bulletins, and Addenda at its discretion foll01Mng notice to the public.
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EXHIBIT I - GENERAL THRESHOLD REQUIREMENTS
I. APPLICATION COMPLETENESS
Submission of a complete and consistent application. This indudes,
but is not limited to, a fully completed
LIHTC Excel Application prepared in accordance with applicati11n
instructions, submission of the required
application fee, and submission of all applicable exhibits. MSHDA
will reject applications with multiple
material errors in documentation, incomplete information, and/or
general inconsistencies found within
the entire application submission. Decisions for rejectioo under this
threshold requirement are
intentionaDy made on a subjective basis and are entirely under
MSHDA's discretion.
II . PROJECT NARRATIVE
A detailed and complete narrative description of the project which
includes, at a minimum , the type of
project; location; prior UHTC status, if any; type of financing; tenants
served; bedroom mix; local, federal
or state subsidies, if any; number of jobs created, induding an
explanation/analysis for how this number
was determined; tenant relocation strategy and budget, if applicable;
and any other relevant descriptive
information. Additionally, appOcants should submit a map and site
plan detailing the proposed project
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site. Applicants are encouraged to provide as much additional detail
and background information about
the proposed project as possible; particularly for describing areas in
the application involving unusual or
complex elements.
Ill. SITE CONTROL
Evidence of site control by the Applicant. as evidenced by an option
to purchase, land contract, offer to
purchase, purchase agreement, long-term lease or other appropriate
documentation . and ability to keep
same for 120 days from the date of application due date, with the
ability to provide additional extensions
as necessary to accommodate application processing timelines. If
site control is vested in an entity other
than the anticipated ov.ner, the control must be unilaterally
assignable to the proposed owner. Site
control documents must dearly identify the physical location of the
property (i.e. property address, full
legal description or plat map identifying street names) and be
consistent with the rest of the development
information provided in the application induding the title insurance
commitment If the site control
documentation does not dearly identify a detailed breakdown of the
components of the purchase price
to be paid to the seller, a written narrative from the applicant
providing additional detail may be
submitted to accompany the site control documentation.
IV. ZONING
Evidence from the municipality of the property's current zoning
designation and what, if any, steps are in
process to obtain proper zoning for the proposed development, if it is
not already properly zoned.
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V. UTILITIES
Evidence from the municipality and/or utility companies regarding the
availability of all utilities and
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confirming they will have the capacity to serve the property electricity, gas, waler and sewer.
VI. MARKET STUDY
A mari<et study completed in accordance with MSHDA's guidelines
(see Tab C of MSHDA's Combined
Application) that indicales the housing needs of low-income
individuals in the area to be served. A
completed market study must be submitted with the application and
dated within six months of the
application deadline. It is anticipated that it v.iill take approximately 5
weeks from the time the mar1(et
study is ordered through MSHDA·s process to receive a completed
study. Potential appflcants should be
aware of this timing ....tten planning to submit an application as part of
a competitive funding round.
VII. ENVIRONMENTAL
Submission of an environmental review in accordance with the
current MSHDA Environmental Review
Standards (see Tab D of MSHDA's Combined Application) together
with a remediation plan , if necessary,
with estimated costs outlined in detail and accounted for in the
Sources and Uses Statement Projects
may be rejected if the environmental review and/or supporting
documentation do not meet MSHDA's
standards or if MSHDA determines additional testing or modifications
to a remediation plan are necessary.
Environmental studies must be dated within six months of the
application deadline.
VIII. TITLE INSURANCE COMMITMENT
All projects will be required to submit a title insurance commitment,
dated within six months of the
application due date, at the time the application is submitted . For
projects located on federally
recognized American Indian reservations, MSHDA may accept, in
lieu of the title insurance commitment,
an attorney's opinion letter describing chain of title and land control.
Applicants must assure that the name of the entity that O'MlS the
property matches with the site control
documents, that the entity to be insured is correct, and that all
parcels of property under land control
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exactly match up, are property identified , and agree with the
application that was submitted. The title
insurance commitment must contain a signature of the authorized
title insurance company agent or
employee, must indicate the availability of a title insurance
underwriter, and must otherwise be complete
and without defect.
NOTE: For proposed projects that contain multiple sites, Applicants
must submit the Property
Identification form found in the LIHTC Application to accompany the
title insurance documentation. The
title insurance documentation submitted must be organized in the
same order as shoYJ11 on this form.
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IX. FINANCING
All projects will be required to leverage a reasonable amount of
financing sources, in addition to the LIHTC
being requested, based on what each project can support.
Applicants should not plan on using solely
LIHTC equity financing . If MSHDA determines that a project is not
appropriately leveraging available
sources of financing , the project may be (1) rejected for not meeting
threshold requirements, (2) required
to secure a reasonable amount of financing before the project is
eligible to proceed, and/or (3) subject to
a reduction in the amount of credit that the project is awarded.
All projects are required to submit evidence of submission of
application(s) to a mortgage lender(s) stating
the amount of the loan, terms, interest rate, and guarantors for all
sources of financing . In the case of a
Rural Housing Service (RHS) project, an original letter signed by an
official of RHS; in the case of
conventional financing , original documentation from the lender(s)
staling that a formal application for
construction and permanent financing has been submitted and is
under serious consideration; in the case
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and how the Applicant intends to meet them consistent with the
LIHTC timetables.
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XI. EQUITY INVESTOR LETTER
At the time of application, the applicant must submit an equity
investor letter from the proposed
syndicator- or investor that includes all of the following :
The amount, price, and terms of the Investment
• The planned equity pay~n schedule.
• Investment underwriting and financial forecast pages compiled by
investor (sources and uses of funds,
development budget, draw schedules, rental income and operating
expenses, cash flow analysis,
lease-up schedule, tax credit analysis, capital account analysis, etc.).
• Certification that investor has conducted financial review of
development team, including
identification of which entities and/or individuals will be providing
guarantees.
• Clear statement of any conditions for investment that need to be
met.
Failure to provide sufficient and thorough documentation from the
equity investor as outlined above may
result in disqualification ct the application .
XII . GREEN POLICY
All projects applying for and receiving LIHTC will be required to
incorporate one of three available green
standards referenced in the Green Policy which can be found in Tab
M of the Combined Application.
XIII. DEVELOPMENT TEAM CAPACITY
Eadl Applicant shall submit information regarding its entire
Development Team . The Development
Team is defined as any of the following (without limitation): 0) the
Applicant entity, Qi) the proposed
OY,1"1er, (iii) principal(s) of the 01N11er or Applicant, Qv) the developer,
(v) the general contractor, (v~ the
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of Federal Historic tax credit, documentation indicating that Part I of
the required application has been
made; and in the case of an Authority financed project, evidence that
the project has passed initial
determination.
The Authority understands that due to differing schedules of funding
rounds for various government
financing sources, including but not limited to AHP or HOME funds,
limited documentation or
confirmation of funding awards may be available at the time of
LIHTC application. Because of the unique
timing of these types of sources of funding , the Authority is
committed to being as flexible as possible.
Accordingly, MSHDA will accept and process LIHTC applications
that are proposing to apply for funding
sources that are only available as part of a funding round held by
another entity. If, at the time LIHTC
awards are made, it cannot be determined that the specific funding
source has been applied for and that
there is a strong likelihood of funding availability, the funding source
will not be considered, which may
result in the disqualification of the application. Applications submitted
that are planning on the use of
these types of competitive funding in this way should also identify a
contingency plan as a part of the
submission to demonstrate how the project will proceed in the event
the competitive funding in not
received. Contingency plans may Include the deferral of developer
fee if the deferral is within the limits
outlined in the 2019-2020 OAP. In this way, applicants are
encouraged to take note of this flexibility,
but are also cautioned to list only those funding sources in their initial
application that they are confident
will meet the requirements noted above prior to the LIHTC award.
X. ACQUISITION TRANSFER
For acquisition/rehabilitation involving properties currently regulated
by another government body
0ncluding HUD, RHS, or MSHDA) , statement from the Applicant of
the requirements for such approval
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property management company, (vii) any third party development
consultant, (viii) any related party(ies)
or entityQes) in the seller of any land or property. For this purpose, a
related party or entity is considered
to be related if one party or entity directly or indirectly has the ability
to control the other party or exercise
significant influence over the other party in making financial and
operating decisions.
The Development Team must demonstrate professional and financial
capacity to plan, build, market, and
operate the proposed development. The performance record of the
Applicant, consultant, architect,
management agent and contractor will be measured by the quality
and quantity of previous
development(s); design, construction and property management
efforts; and affirmative action records.
Each team member is expected to demonstrate satisfactory prior
experience on projects of similar scale
and complexity; to have satisfactory professional references; and to
devote sufficient staffing and
resources, including financial resources, to complete the proposed
development. To demonstrate
capacity, the Development Team will be evaluated based on the
following :
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• Applicants will be required to submit a certification regarding their
previous experience in the
development and OYJ11ership of affordable housing , which includes at
a minimum: (a) a list of all
affordable housing developments the Development Team has
participated in during the three (3)
years preceding the application, and (b) a statement concerning any
felony criminal convictions,
indictments, and pending ctirninal investigations of all Development
Team members, and details
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�of each circumstance, unless otherwise prohibited by court order,
statute or regulation.
• The Applicant and contractor will be evaluated for
creditworthiness and financial capacity.
Specifically, financial statements will need to be submitted for the
Applicant and contractor that
meet the requirements of MSHDA Policy Bulletin #7 and
demonstrates adequate professional
and financial capacity.
If a Development Team member does not have satisfactory prior
experience or adequate financial
capacity, a written plan must be submitted for review by MSHDA to
outline how these deficiencies in
experience and financial capacity will be rectified.
Proposals submitted \Nherein any member of the Development Team
(v) has failed to pay any fee or
expense due to the Authority in connection with any Authoritysponsored program (w) has been
detem1ined to be in default or in major non-compliance with UHTC or
any other MSHDA program, (x) has
been debarred or suspended from any MSHDA. HUD, or Rural
Housing programs, (y) is in foredosure or
been foreclosed, or (z) is under felony investigation, indicted or been
convicted of a felony, will
automatically be disqualified until the event or events of default,
debannent, suspension, foredosure,
non-compliance, or other legal action are corrected or resolved. To
assist in its evaluation of these
criteria, MSHDA may contact other local, state, and/or federal
housing agencies to solicit feedback related
to a specific development team member.
MSHDA has the sole and absolute discretion to deter:mine those
parties ineligible for UHTC due to lack of
capacity, non-compliance, or disqualification status.
XIV. AFFIRMATIVE FAIR HOUSING MARKETING PLAN
Submission of an Affim1ative Fair Housing Marketing Plan consistent
with MSHDA requirements (see Tab
P of MSHDA's Combined Application).
XV. OWNERSHIP FORMATION DOCUMENT
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Copy of the most recent version of the certificate of limited
partnership (or limited liability company) and
any amendments on file with the Department of Licensing and
Regulatory Affairs, Corporations Division,
\Nhich accurately reflects the entities involved in the project
ownership shown in the application. Outofstate entities must submit a copy of an endorsed application for
certificate of authority to transact
business or conduct affairs in Michigan, along with the supporting
documentation submitted with the
application.
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XVI. WAIVER OF QUALIFIED CONTRACT
By submitting an application for UHTCs, all Applicants waive the
right to request a qualified contract under
Section 42(h)(6)(EW) of the Internal Revenue Code. Thus, MSHDA's
required extended use commitment
shall not tem1inate at the end of the compliance period, but is instead
a minimum of 30 years.
XVII. VOUCHERS AND PUBLIC HOUSING
A written statement signed by the Applicant stating:
• it will give priority to persons \Nhose names are on appropriate
Public Housing or Housing Choice
Voucher waiting lists maintained by a Public Housing Commission
(PHC) or Public Housing Authority
(PHA) in the area in INhich the project is located, and
• it will make ongoing efforts to request that the PHC and/or the
PHA make referrals to the project, or
place the relevant project information on any listing the PHC or PHA
makes available to persons on
their waiting lists.
A copy of the written statement and documentation of ongoing efforts
as evidenced by a referral
agreement or other appropriate memorandum of commitment must
be kept on file at the development's
office and available for compfiance inspection and review at all times.
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XVIIJ. MSHDA FINANCING SIGNAGE
A statement of certification that if the Applicant is awarded LIHTC It
shall post signage at the project
construction site listing MSHDA as a financing source.
XIX. MINIMUM HARD CONSTRUCTION COSTS
All applications for 9% credit must Indicate a need for at least
$20,000 per unit In hard rehab or
construction costs (inducting both building and site costs, but
exduding allowable amounts for General
Requirements, Builder Overhead, Builder Profit, contingencies, etc.)
and must indude this amount in the
construction budget. Projects seeking 4% credit to be used in
conjunction with tax-exempt bond
financing will only need to meet the minimum requirements found in
Section 42 of the Internal Revenue
Code.
XX. MAXIMUM TOTAL DEVELOPMENT COST PER UNIT LIMIT
All projects will be subject to a maximum Total Development Cost
per unit that cannot be exceeded .
The Maximum Total Development Cost per unit limit is determined
by multiplying the average of the
Construction Cost Index for 2017. published by Engineering News-Record, by a conversion factor of 33.
Applicants seeking more lnf0m1ation or darification on this
calculation are encouraged to view the Cost
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Reasonableness with Credit Efficiency section of the Scoring Criteria
\Nhere projects will be evaluated to
detem1ine \Nhether they meet this test based on the information
entered in the form.
XXI. MICHIGAN PRODUCTS
All projects must demonstrate the use of products and goods that are
manufactured by Michigan-based
corporations and incorporate them into the proposed development.
(Submit certification from architect;
See Tab HH)
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XXII. PHASED PROJECTS IN THE SAME BUILDING
Developments that are proposing multiple 9% LIHTC phases within
the same building will be required to
present a plan of financing In the event that only one of the phases is
in a position to be funded in the
9% LIHTC funding round. Developments will be required to show a
solid plan to avoid the situation
\'Jhere 9% credits are allocated to a phase of a building that cannot
begin construction until other
financing is secured or a 9% credit award can be obtained on the
other phase(s) of the building . If the
plan is dependent on all phases receiving 9% UHTC funding in the
same funding round, then singular
phases will only be eligible for 9% LIHTC if all phases are in a
position to be funded in the funding round.
The plan cannot be dependent on any phases receiving a 9% LIHTC
award in future funding rounds. If,
in MSHDA's sole discretion , a solid and realistic plan is not
presented, the development will not be eligible
for a 9% LIHTC award. Please note that this section only pertains to
phased projects that are located in
the same building and does not pertain to phased developments that
are spread out over a particular
site.
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EXHIBIT II - PRESERVATION THRESHOLD REQUIREMENTS
I. ELIGIBLE PRESERVATION PROJECTS
Eligible Preservation projects indude those with any of the following
elements:
a. Government financing from HUD (induding Section 236, Section
8, and Section 202) , USDA Rural
Development (inducting 515), or MSHDA;
b. Other below-marl<et financing, defined as a below market federal
loan as defined in Section 42 of
the IRC;
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�c. Rehabilitation of existing public housing provided the project \Nill
involve rehabilitation of existing
units, and not demolition and construction of new units; or
d . Year 15 LIHTCs.
Projects INith federal assistance must retain the assistance.
Prepayment of a HUD loan and conversion
to enhanced vouchers may qualify as retainer of assistance if the
applicant demonstrates to MSHDA's
satisfaction that such conversion is necessary to enhance the
property's long-term affordability and if the
property \Nill remain viable even after normal attrition of enhanced
vouchers.
II. MSHDA GAfl FINANCING PROGRAM SUBMISSION
As outlined in Section V.B.1. of the QAP, an applicant \Nill not be
able to submit a preservation project for
9% credit unless the project has first been submitted to MSHDA in
order to evaluate vmether the project
is likely to be competitive under the MSHDA Gap Financing
Program, using the available gap funding
paired INith a tax-exempt bond loan. Based on MSHDA's
determination, if a preservation project is
unlikely to be competitive in the Gap Financing Program, the project
\Nill be eligible to submit for
consideration as part of a 9% competitive funding round under the
Preservation Category.
Additionally, applications for preservation prtjects that are ultimately
eligible to be submitted for the
Preservation Category may not materially differ from the same
project application that was submitted as
part of the Gap Financing Program : otherlNise MSHDA, in its sole
disCfetion, may determine the project
to be ineligible for an award of 9% LIHTC.
Ill. PROJECT MUST BE 'AT RISK'
Projects must either:
a. Be INithin five years of any permitted prepayment or equivalent
loss of low income use
restrictions; or
b. Preserve occupied and restricted low income units provided the
rehabilitation \Nill repair or
replace components that are:
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\Nill give consideration to the follolNing:
Level of community impact, induding economic and social impact
• Unique financing opportunities
Job growth
Coordination INith other site amenities to enhance the overall
neighborhood
• Coordination INith an overall community revitalization effort
In addition to the usual threshold requirements, at a minimum , to
qualify for this Category, the application
must indude:
• Evidence of a Neighborhood Plan adopted by the municipality that
delineates target properties
(new construction, rehabilitation, demolition, for example) and that
explains how housing related
amenities such as transportation and community services are orlNill
be Incorporated
• Evidence of significant municipal and/or state funding
commitment(s) - not induding housing tax
credits - and any other unique sources of financing .
• Evidence of substantial outside private investment, INithin the past
two years and/or planned and
committed in the follolNing two years - not induding investment in
housing tax credits
• Demonstration of proximity to job growth/new sources of
employment
Projects applying in any of the three Categories outlined in the QAP
can also apply in this Strategic
Investment Category. MSHDA, in its sole discretion, 'MIi make the
determination of vmich, if any,
applications shall receive an award from this Category. It is
anticipated that very few applications \Nill
meet the aiteria to apply in this Category, and that there may, in fact,
be none in a given funding round .
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EXHIBIT IV- UNDERWRITING STANDARDS
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I. In immediate need of repair or replacement; or
ii. Either substantially functionally obsolete or being improved to
provide modifications or
betterments consistent INith new building code requirements and
MSHDA's Design
Requirements.
IV. PROPERTIES INELIGIBLE FOR PRESERVATION
Preservation projects are ineligible if they:
a. Are deteriorated to the point of requiring demolition. or
b. Have completed a full debt restructuring under the Mark to Market
process INithin the last five (5)
years.
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EXHIBIT Ill - STRATEGIC INVESTMENT CATEGORY
REQUIREMENTS
There may be extraordinary circumstances where the evaluation of
an application by the standard review
process outlined in the Qualified Allocation Plan does not necessarily
take into consideration the
contribution that a development would make to the state's overall
economic end community
development strategy. These situations may indude, but are not
limited to, applications that
demonstrate transformative neighborhood revitalization, and/or
unique financial funding and leveraging
opportunities, and/or the opportunity to promote significant job
growth in proximity to such housing.
The Strategic Investment Category has been created to attempt to
address these circumstances.
As part of its review for projects submitting an application for the
Strategic Investment Category, MSHDA
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I. PROJECT FEASIBILITY
In determining the feasibility of a project over the compliance period,
MSHDA has established minimum
standards for operating expenses, vacancy rates, increases in
operating costs and expenses, project
income, debt service coverage ratio, operating reserves, and
replacement reserves. Requests for use of
alternative standards other than those established by MSHDA must
be supported by written explanation
and appropriate documentation. For developments seeking only
competitively allocated 9% credits
INithout financing from MSHDA, applicants may request waivers from
these standards based on the
submission of written documentation indicating that the alternative
underwriting standards have been
reviewed and approved in advance by both the debt and equity
providers for the project. The use of the
MSHDA minimum standards or any alternative standards for
determining financial feasibility of a project
is at the sole discretion of MSHDA. If MSHDA determines that the
project is not financially feasible using
MSHDA's minimum standards or the alternative standards at the
time of initial application review, the
project \Nill not be eligible for an allocation of LIHTC.
In addition to revie\Ning a project to assess its feasibility, MSHDA \Nill
also evaluate each project to ensure
there is no over-subsidization and that the appropriate amount of
resources are being used, in particular
the amount of LIHTC being allocated. In conducting this analysis,
MSHDA \Nill consider the amounts and
terms of other funding sources being planned for the project and the
amount of cash flow generated by
the project, among other things. MSHDA, in its sole discretion , may
allocate fewer credits if the
determination is made that the project could be completed by
adjusting one or more of the other
components of the underwriting (e.g. more hard debt could be
supported resulting in fewer credits
needed for feasibility).
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�MSHDA will review a project's feasibility over the 15 year compliance
period at three different stages as
required by Section 42 of the Internal Revenue Code: 1) prior to
making an award of credit, 2) at 10%
Certification, and 3) at Placed in Service. The following is a
breakdown of how this provision will apply
to each of the underwriting stages in the allocation process and what
this provision will mean in practice:
• Initial Application/Prior to LIHTC Award - In order to receive an
initial award of credit, the
project must be financially feasible for the 15-year compliance period
utilizing the underwriting
standards as applied to the proforma.
• 10% Certification - MSHDA will review the sources and uses of
funds and the total financing
planned for the project to ensure that the amount of credit being
allocated to the project does
not exceed the amount necessary for the project to be financially
feasible during the entire initial
15-year compliance period. MSHDA will continue to monitor a
project's income and expenses
during this phase of the allocation process, but will not hold up the
issuance of Carryover
documentation because of this portion of the review.
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• Placed in Servicenssuance of 8609 - MSHDA will review the
sources and uses of funds and the
total financing planned for the project to ensure that the amount of
credit being allocated to the
project does not exceed the amount necessary for the project to be
financially feasible for the
15-year compliance period. MSHDA will continue to monitor a
project's income and expenses
during this phase of the allocation proc.ess, but will not hold up the
issuance of 8609s to a project
because of this portion of the review.
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For projects relying upon project-based rental assistance for financial
feasibility - If the project-based
rental assistance ends due to events outside the owner's control , any
rent and income restrictions on the
property that the owner agreed to for points as part of a competitive
funding round will revert to the 50%
or 60% AMI level as selected by the owner.
The amount of credit awarded to a project will be that for which the
value is the lesser of 1) the equity
gap calculation ; 2) the amount of credit calculated based on using a
3.4% credit rate (used for acquisition
costs and for tax-exempt bond financing) or a 9%1 credit rate (used
for rehabilitation or new construction
costs), the credit pricing identified in the Equity Investor Letter, and
on its qualified basis; or 3) the amount
of LIHTC requested by the Applicant. If MSHDA. in its sole
discretion , determines that the equity pricing
shown in the application and the Equity Investor Letter is
unreasonable based on current market
conditions, MSHDA may use an alternative equity pricing that i ;
more indicative of current market
conditions.
Applicants should note that the tax credit rates outlined above may
not be the exact monthly rate in effect
and that the actual tax credit rate may differ from this. The rates
shown above are intended to allow for
some flexibility due to fluctuating monthly rates, while not allocating
more credit to the project than is
needed for feasibility.
II. RENT INCREASES
Rent increases on the tenant-paid portion of rent , for occupied units
will be limited to no more than 5%
per year for the first three years. This limitation does not apply to
occupied units protected by projectbased
rental assistance or enhanced vouchers.
1 MSHDA will use the greater the credit rates shown or the
floating monthly credit rate published as of the time of
application submission in its determination of the amount of credit to
award.
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EXHIBIT V - STATE-DESIGNATED BASIS BOOST CRITERIA
Pursuant to Section IX.A, MSHDA will use the following criteria in
awarding the basis boost.
For projects financed with tax-exempt bonds eligible for 4%
credit, the following basis boost will be
available:
1. Projects located in a QCT or ODA will be eligible for up to a 30%
basis boost
For projects eligible for 9% LIHTC, the following basis boost will
be available:
Up to 20% Basis Boost:
2. Projects located in a QCT or DOA
3. Permanent Supportive Housing projects
4. Deep income targeting - Projects restricting 20%
the total units
to 30% AMI or less (in order to
be eligible for the boost under this criteria. the 30% AMI units must
not also have project based
rental assistance associated with them)
5. Projects that receive points under the Developments near
Downtowns or Corridors section of the
Scoring Criteria
6. Rural set-aside projects
7. Historic Projects - Projects that are completing a certified
rehabilitation of an existing certified
historic property listed , either individually or as part of a district, on
the National or State Historic
Register; or that the State Historic Preservation Office expects to be
listed on the National or State
Historic Register. Project must also incorporate the use of the
Historic Credit.
8. Affordable Assisted living developments that qualify for the
Affordable Assisted Living points in
the Scoring Criteria
9. Projects that are located within an Opportunity Zone (as enacted
under the 2017 Tax Cuts and
Jobs Act) and/or a Rising Tide Community
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Please note that MSHDA reserves the right to mod;ty the StateDesignated Basis Boost Policy on an asneeded
basis, should market conditions dictate the necessity for a revision .
Should a revision be
necessary, MSHDA will work with stakeholders to come up with
potential changes, with the objective of
ensuring the criteria allow for feasible transactions In the current
market, and will post a notice of the
revision on its website in advance of the revision becoming active.
This streamlined approach will allow
for a quicker response to market forces and the changes to be
effectuated in a timely manner.
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EXHIBIT VI - COMPLIANCE MONITORING & NOTIFICATION OF
NONCOMPLIANCE
Owners (Applicants) receiving a LIHTC allocation shall be required to
follow the requirements outlined in
MSHDA's LIHTC Compliance Manual (Compliance Manual or
Manual) (available on MSHDA's website).
1. O\NNER RESPONSIBILITIES
Within thirty (30) days of completion of Part II of the Form 8609 and
filing of the form with the Internal
Revenue Service, a completed copy must be sent to MSHDA for its
records. Failure to send a copy of the
completed form to MSHDA within the required timeframe shall be
deemed as noncompliance.
The records for the first year of the credit period must be kept for six
years after the due date (with
extensions) for filing the federal Income tax return for the last year of
the compliance period (a total of
21 years). Owners must k.e ep subsequent records on file for six
years after the due date (with
extensions) for filing the federal income tax return for that year.
These records must indude:
• The total number of residential rental units in the building
(induding the number of bedrooms
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�and the size in square feet of each unit);
· The percentage of residential rental units in the building that are
low-income units;
• The rent charged and utility allowance for each residential rental
unit in the building;
• The number of occupants in each low-income unit;
• The low-income unit vacancies in the building and information that
shows when and to whom the
next available units were rented ;
• Income certifications of each low-income tenant and the
documentation to support the
certification;
• The eligible basis and qualified basis of the building at the end of
the first year of the credit period;
• The character and use of the nonresidential portion of any
building included in the project's
eligible basis; and
• Documentation regarding calculation of utility allowances.
O'Mlers must submit to MSHDA Compliance on an annual basis the
following:
• An O'Mler Certification of Continuing Program Compliance
(O'Mler Certification) Form certifying
that for the preceding twelve month period the project met conditions
outlined in Section 42;
• The original local health, safety or building code violation reports
or notices that are issued by the
state or local government unit. Copies of these reports or notices
must also be kept on-site at
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the development for review by MSHDA during the physical
inspection. These reports may be
destroyed fotlO'Mng a MSHDA inspection and the O'Mler's notification
to MSHDA that the
violations have been corrected. Code violation reports must be
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violations.
Owners must submit to MSHDA electronically, on an on-going basis,
data stating the number of qualifying
units, number of bedrooms in each unit, information on each lowincome tenant household (including
income, rent amount, utility allowance, number of occupants, AMI %
designation , etc.) , and any other
information as set forth on the MSHDA website and in the Manual.
The tenant income and rent
information must be provided in the format required by MSHDA.
which includes electronic submission via
a web-based reporting system.
Owners must submit to MSHDA in writing , responses to the physical
inspections and tenant file audits
conducted, unless no inspection or file audit noncompliance findings
are identified.
Owners must notify MSHDA in writing (Notice of Change in
Management form) 'Within five (5) business
days of any changes in the management of the project, including
changes in the company managing the
project or In the address, telephone number or email address of the
management agent company and/or
contact person.
Owners must notify MSHDA in writing (Notice of Change in
O'Mlership form) within five (5) business days
of any changes in the O'Mlership of the project, including a
foreclosure, deed in lieu of foreclosure, or any
other sale or disposition of the project or any portion of the project
and any changes in the O'Mlership
entity, including any changes in the name of the entity, address and
telephone number of the entity,
percent of O'Mlership changes, and changes in the principals
comprising the 01M1ership entity.
O'Mlers must notify MSHDA immediately in writing (Notice of
Building Casualty Loss or Damage form) of
any unit(s) or building(s) in the project that are anticipated to be
unavailable for occupancy either
permanently or temporarily for a period of time anticipated to exceed
30 calendar days due to casualty
loss, damage, or any other reason .
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2. MSHDA RESPONSIBILITIES
MSHDA will review the Owner Certification Forms and tenant data
and income and rent reporting for
compliance wth program requirements.
MSHDA, or its authorized agent, wll conduct a physical inspection of
all buildings, common areas, and at
least 20% of the low-income units in a project. MSHDA. or its
authorized agent, wit conduct tenant file
audits consisting of a review of the low-income certification, the
documentation the O'Mler has received
to support that certification, and the rent record for 20% of the low
income units.
Physical inspections and tenant file audits of UHTC projects wll
commence no later than the end of the
second calendar year following the year the last building in the
project is placed in service and wll be
conducted at least once every 3 years thereafter throughout the
initial 15 year compliance period.
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MSHDA wit continue to conduct physical inspections and file audits
throughout the extended use period.
MSHDA retains the right to perform an on-site inspection and/or file
audit of any low-income building at
any time or frequency during the initial compliance period and the
remainder of the extended use period.
MSHDA 'Will retain records of noncompliance or failure to certify for a
minimum of six years after the filing
of a Form 8823. MSHDA 'Will retain all certifications and records for
not less than three years from the
end of the calendar year in which they are received.
3. NOTIFICATION OF NONCOMPLIANCE
If any of the submissions required in Section I, are not submitted in a
timely fashion , or should there be
omissions, MSHDA shall request such information from the O'Mler. If
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required documentation wthin the specified time period, MSHDA
shall notify the Internal Revenue
Service of the O'Mler's failure to provide the required Information.
Should MSHDA discover, as a result of an inspection or audit, or in
any other manner, that the project is
not in compliance wth Section 42, or that credit has been claimed or
'Will be claimed for units that are
ineligible, MSHDA 'Will notify the O'Mler. The O'Mler shall have a
minimum of 30 days from the date of
notification to cure the noncompliance. In extraordinary
circumstances, and only if MSHDA determines
that there is good cause, an extension of up to six months to
complete a cure for noncompliance may be
granted.
MSHDA 'Will notify the Internal Revenue Service, utilizing Form 8823,
no later than 45 days after the end
of the correction period, and no earlier than the end of the correction
period, of the nature of the
noncompliance and 'Will indicate to the Service whether or not the
O'Mler has made appropriate
corrections.
\M'lile MSHDA wll notify the o'Mler of compliance issues, neither a
finding of noncompliance nor a
determination that noncompliance has been cured is binding on the
Internal Revenue Service. O'Mlers
who have received a notification from MSHDA that a project is in
compliance may still be subject to an IRS
audit and the possibility of loss or recapture of Housing Credits.
Refer to the Internal Revenue Code for
additional information about federal compliance issues.
The absence of a notice of noncompliance should not be relied upon
by any owners or their investors as
a warranty or representation by MSHDA that the project is in
compliance wth application requirements.
City of Southfield John Grace Re~italization Plan -AtloµLed - )lan·h 21, :!022
119
�Appendh'. E:
2017-2022
Building Permits
(attached on the following pages)
City of Southfield John Grace Re,italization Plan - .\dopted
•
l\lJITh 21, ::022
120
Section 31- Building Permits
Permit#
PB21-4l-163
Job Addrc••
Con1..-,clor
BE.\lrJY BOX SFLD LLC
02/25/2017-2022
Fee Total
2.10:?3 BEECH RD
Con•t. Value
Date IHucd
$+!0.00
~25,,1
06/16/3l21
$359.00
$8,-KIO
06/08/21121
$-196.00
$10500
09/08/3121
Work De,e:criptl.Qru Constrncuon of new Qr'Oodet.1 dwnp!ttcr- ~nclosucc W'l.th wood gate- door.
PB21-0729
\!EYER. ~L-\RTI
& \!ORR£ ~765 EOGE...\1O:S-T
\Vork Oeicripcion: Dtck extension to t-llihng Jeck
1'821-1249
HUTCHINS, GL'<.'\
\\i'ork Oncriplioo: Remove back p;ibO; lean cxitbng wing \\.ill..-. (2h.:13) p.atio. Budd:!' htgb w1ngwall 9 linear ftconnect»on to exi.stmg
Wlng v,iill,
$-16700
$16,516
08/19/21)21
2:.'!;,{~)f
09/"7/"JJ.)21
Work Dc-scription: -176' ofu·atergu.ud
Mloplesafe
S(J' ofc~tcriordi~h.ug-elutc
1'621-1338
J,\CK. TI'RONE & CARE.,
PB21-1356
FOSTI::R. THO~L-\S/BER..,AI 23121 TI-IOR..,CLIFFE
2280111\IBERLt:--:E
$5,884.0,J
$222.00
$R,OCM)
09/02/2')21
$398.00
H3.241
09/ 02/2021
$513.00
$22.951
09/02/21)21
$3>1.00
$11,000
10/()(1/2(1'.?J
$351.()()
$12,108
10/13/2021
$196.(1()
$3.885
10/26/~21
$-150.ro
$3l.-l<Xl
ll/.l0/3l21
$4J(.()(I
~1-.7 1J3
11/29/ 21)21
\Vork lks:crip1ion: Compktc tc!roof
1'821-1-106
TROTITR. R& BAt.:GHM .\N :?33:511 IOR.,Cl!FFE
\Vork Dcscriprion: rcpl!letng l \\'D'ldo\\- .nd 2 P-'UO doon.
PB'.?1-1409
E.R\"CS, CO.RA
2..">902 \~'REXFORD
\Vork Oct.cripcion: ttpl.tcmg 5 erisnng windo\l.-i
PB2J-1610
•
\UNGO, HOR.-\CE t\·
237(-0 S.\MOSCT TRL
Work Description: 1r1Sull if11cnor w:ilcrproo6ng sy:u~n on all -I u:illl,
uubll new m.i~-:,p•1 and pttmp
PB2l - 1<118
LE...'I.PJIART, E.LDO:--: & MJCf 23680 OAK GLEN OR
Work O«cripcioa: 99 Ff INTERJ OR WATERJ'RCX)FJ),;G
1'821-1717
CCBRECO, ~1O,\L-\R.\ .-\
23400 O .-\K Gl.f:N DR
Work O.,scripcion: REPLAO-:-.IG 256 Ff OF Gl TfERS
1'821•1788
STRJCKl....",..\:O, HER..\lA:S- & r :?3160 WRE.XFORD
Work Dcscrip,ion: tcu off 11Jld re-roof hou~ 1tnd au...ched gauge
R~nove n<lge 1.eru
PB21 - 1789
HESDCRSON, TRm
�'\: 'ork Dc.t.cripcion: tc-;1r off .and tt-•roi.:1fhou"C wd .atbchc<l f:tt.'gc
(tht roof not 1ncluJt.-J)
16,7-1(,
11 (01 /'.?U21
$11,769
ll/l'.?/:,1:1
$13,l!J!0
12/1)(,/:l,lcl
$7.8')()
12/09/:l.121
>u
!11/19/7:ll'.?2
S1?5<o
PB21,1800
EHRIC:11\\.\'s. D.\\10
Pll21,tSn
11\RPO<)llJ.\.'-,JOH'sM
21,c,,S.\ IOSE"TlRL
Work De cripc:ion: Ntdtcn/h..J.fb~tb mnudc-1
PB21-IS4<l
\\lrlH, •. IL-\RO's
$}4ll.{O
Work Description: l 4Mt mttnor ba"Cmc:nt , atctpruvling :And l
PB'.?l-1'187
'<Uff'\l
planp
JfSFRlf:.5,JOH'-". R & .\.'-GE Wfl) \'C' 10 MILE RD
\\'ork Dc11cription: Iruwlling :)) sol.u p1uwb. 7 ....-)l, gnd bed. onr.> ground mounted arr,11,·
\\.'ork De aiption: 9 lu~mcnt ;U1c.:h.:,n
PB21 :,:,o;
B.\l'rlSTE,A\TR)
$15~('(1
Work Oescripcion, TE.-\R OH' .\'-.D R.I:ROOI' TO COI>E
PB21-:?1Q8
101!. ·so.• IIE.."-RY & 11:S.D, '.?~Sl~IS!\\1O:-ETTR!.
$~1~9.00
Work Oc cripcion! ELECTRIC.\!. FlRE / 1"-TERIOR REPAIRS TO BE H.\'-.DL£D
PB'.?l-:?1)11!1
T.\YIDR.)011"- F
Work De cripcion: ln!>talhng(U repl~nn"'·nt ,a.-mdCJ\\s
PB'.?1-211.8
2.'\11:llJO.\J.:GLEls DR
SH.\\N"D-DL ·• \JlTOfEU
S:87.0,J
Work O«cription: Roof O\Tr exbhng l t...b roof •~th nc11,· Dunrnnorul W'W10C'J
;!j
S(,.11.00
230WTIIOR.'-"CLIFI-E
Work Oe•criptioo: tut off and re-roof ht~ aod atta,;.tkJ ~r..g,rPBZl-=.!
$13,9"
\'ClSEG.\RDE.'-", D-IRl>TOl1 2-4400 l"-J.:STl:R RD
01/lll/:ll•'.?2
ork Ocsc-rip,1ioo: tc...r off and rc--roof ffltlre' hou,e onlr (no "'r-.age)
P~-OC~
Work DePB'.?2-0l(ll
T\'1.0R.TO\l\flf.& B.\RB.\ 2~163 Gll'SEYR.lf.
S71't0ll
ripctOn: u u ~ <JUb:-oi.l dr.m lilt-~ iutCflQr cxlttl':.t l);l"'"mc:nl ,·-itcrpl'OOfillg
.\ICKIN"-F.Y, TAI..\1.-\DG~~U ~18511\IBERU"-L
Sl,'/33."l
\\ork Dacripcion: Bathroom mnxkW'lo opttung fie'\\ n1t door m the back ,,th nn. ramp and 111.k"all up 10th<- dn\YV,:ay.
PB22-012A
TI IO~IPSO"-. M \RY
261-lll R.\NGE.\IORE
$22,.011
; 1'00
02/01 /3)22
s~;.oo
$19.()1~
02/0J/3117
ripe ion: Rq,hcc: \,nJ1 Mding on lnu,e ooly
2430'I EDGE.\10. :T
Work De cripc.ion: Dcmo'l.ibon ,,C-Bl 5 E.d~nL Sn.Yr <=11("~ foW'kLuon rcmo, Mo hacldill m~bon~ rtqw-cJ pnor 10 fin;J gadutg o(
,.,.. Sod / ,ttJ & mukh ttqUi..d fur fu"'1 in.'P=to"
Work Description:
PB17~l'20t
Re"ide:n:IJ.J. &'nct11110r
RILEY, \ffl \"T'-" & 01
\,•rr:
ork Oc,.crir<ioo: h,,..U Z7kU" Sundby
Jn),td pk'U.lor per tppl'O\,°nl pl.u.u.
PBli.{157)
$19.IWWI
~JIit \\'RfSK>RD
0,/02/:?()17
c;..,..,..,,
Vin.al in~U<,,t requtred. .\f u.un\ml ;ill dfu at lot lane.
\UEDE.'-BECI.:, D L.\.>s;D 111 241,q. \MOSl:"TTRI.
ork Oc.cripcion: :Se• (JJ bcJroom b.,mc, (3 l/:;1 Bathroom. W/1.oft "POL< Coa.1ruct, ,.... 1,.,.,,. fo<>tu,g. b.uem.nt •.rD ..i,..,,
ttm<h f , ~ 1,..,&u, ro.._i., "nJ. ..,ui._, and lirul ,_trons "'!'•r«I. :SOlTh ~""' hn, bad lo
,i.,-,UOIU
:lif'P"'' cJ poor lo p1acnnc-nt of~ cootfflE.
H'•~•
$)4(ll
05.119/3J17
'-"o,1.. ~,ipcion: ·,np ....d R't00fbau1<anJ 11tta<h<Jp>s<
~"'I' & Rnhingl, Roof I 5tl fdt k• & W•1<r Sho.ld, Dnp !:Jg< \"ont , Fl..lung & Nungks. T•·o "'--p«t>on•
~ Or=fP~.,., & Fuul Roo[, un<kr ~/12 p11ch, ""' Lti-.n I ',ti
r,quittd. Roof, und,, Z/12p,rch.
\lnolm= "'1'4..J. R90i?.7
PBli-08}9
ill\".\: :-r.\GI! \\lRF.Lf_-;,·
5 (JO(>
II :?2'155 \'\lU'SI-ORD
()1,/07/:}117
U"or~ D«cripcion: Rc:mo,'C' d.unagc shinp1..~ on roof
R,puc, mn,d wood
lru..U ciumn,y fwh
Atbc, a1ubtmg
G.\f,lungl,-;
Sl"{I & R...!ungj< .cc.ordmg to c:ortlr.oel
I wo ""{"'l>on• a,qu,ttd. Opcn/1',..,g=-, ..,J hn,1
tnp& R,,,,hingk Roof I:>:/ fdt I« & \\"atu,-ludJ, Drip Edi" \",ni., Fluhu,g · 51u,,g1<._ ho1111"'oon
r<qUltt<l Opcn./1',ogrtto& F....t Roof,unJcr~llZ J'll<h. tv.o 1,m, 1;11 ~ Roof, un<kr2/l'.?p11ch,
\{tmbnnt f'«iUUal R9(6.2.7
1'817-'IH¼
HER.'-.\'-DEZ, W\! 'I 'EL
Work De c-rirc--ion: l!S' ,~tcrpmofu.ig& !--uanp
Wl51 \\' 10. IILE RD
~
(U,ch..i.rg,:
10
S:96.<VI
$11,l!Ul
ln~~hon of 1211 fcC't oftnte-nor sub 1uJ dnu,
Plumhmg pcm11t .auJ m.,pcclJOru ttqLDml
5f11~m
pc:r COtltnK:t rough and fin.al
Ul"'fleCl1t11lC.I tt<JUlJ'C'd
$141.011
Work Oe,cripcion,
ll6/13/)l[7
ditch.
$9.l"'l
~rr:sk
08/08/'.)J 17
tnp & R,,,lu,1gk Roof 1511 felt let· & \'C"a1a '1»<1J, Dap Edge \"a11,, n,,.1,;,,g & SrunsJ<s.
T,n, uupC'\:O<>ns l'C<fltll'C'd. ~n/Prugrc,- & hn.J Roof11 unJcr4/11p1lch. 1,a.-0 l•vC'r,, JS# req~ Roofs under
~/12 pitch. Membr>n< ""l"'r«I. R90i27
•
PB17 1092
0.11P~ E.\Rl.L
PB17-l 196
REY:--.OL.OS, STEM-IE.'-" A! 'C 237200.\J.: GLE:S: DR
\\·ork De cri-pcion:-
2:1<,,1 C l 'T\\'OOD OR
�Stnp& Reslungk R.or,f IS# felt lee & \'t'11terSbt.eld, Dnp Edge \ents, fta..,.lung&~h.ingk!i. T"'·o u1~ch()ns
rcqu,wi Open/l'rog,,:., & fin,J Roofs rn,dcr ➔ /J~ p,tch. two loy«• 1:,11 «qllU<d. Roof. under2/12p11ch,
\lcmh-rane rcqusred. R9rJ:l.27
Stnp & Re.ih.inglc flC.:coultng to conrrKI. T \\-"O 1ospcchon,: tcqutrcd. Opcn/Progtt:f! 1U1d Fi.n:11
•
PB17-1298
$285.00
D.\\lDSOS.CAL\l.S & '.\:Of. 21!Ml? L\KE RA\1SF.S
\lork Description: TclU' off roof do"",1 to roofboard" and rcplncc roned
ln:J1:tll1celusrerfdt
$1~.70I)
118/18/:lll?
,,-ood
dnp edge •hingl«
Stnp & Rcshu,glc Roof IS# fclt Ice & \\'arc, Shield, Dnp L:lgc \',no,, Fli,lung& Slungles. T"" ui,•p<cuon,
reqw«cl Op<rt/Prog,u, & Firuil R<lOf, undt'T 4/12 pin:h. two uycrs 15# n,quued. Roof, under 2/l2p,u:h.
\lembnne rt-qwred R905.2.7 Strip & ~hingle- acc:ordmg ro contract. T\\:o in..ipoecllont required: Opcn/Pn:>gre!i1'
;1nd hn.1I.
PB17-1355
STR!CKL.\SD. Ht:R.\l~S & C 23160 \ThE.XFORD
$781.00
$2.,.988
O'J/19/"]JJ17
Work Description: 8.ltb ttmodcl-n:mcwe- ..ttywa.ll fi◊onng,. Joor:, and c.mng. Rrp.ur dryw.ill, prep floor for cm-bless shou.w entt')". \\ "i<lm
both dooN. fur ..\DA compltancc. Rough and final mspccuoru required. $,ookc cktt:c.ton .md c:.rbon molloxidc
dect«tot requir<d.ptt R314 and R319
PB17•1388
"'EBSTER. DORIS
:?3185 BEEO! RD
$7,193
$125.IXI
f)?/15/:l.117
Work Description: Wt..ll 11 ku Gener.ator in rear y,ud ~ lOO wnp tr.tos(er .smtch
lo!'luill generator per apptm·td pl;1n:1. Fuul
PBl7-14!)7
Ul"f)C'Cb.OD
CR11TE:S:DE..'-J, BE.fu'-JAAD & 23455 OAK GLEN DR
rcquirc-d. ~lnimrnn 50 d.Bs at lot hm·.
$430.00
i22.4llr
0?/H/'llJ17
Work Description: Srnp and re-roof house and gan,~
Stnp & R,,hingk Roof 15# felt 1-x & \'\"■ tor Slucld, Drip t:¥ \'enr,, A ..Jung & Shml!Jn. Two "''l><cMn.
rcquu«l Op<rt/Progn,s, & Fuul Root. undcr4/I:! puch. two b)-." !5# r<-quu..l. Roof, undo,, 2/1:?puch.
).{ernbNnc icquued. R'J05.~.7
Step&. Rrshingk a.::conhng to cootracl T~-o iusp«:UOn::. reqw.red Opm/Progtt» :u1d fin.al
PBli-1441
11.-\RPOn!ILL\NLr\TNGTJl 237!05.\MOSETTRL
$3:?7.00
$18..}13
09/14/"1J!l7
$'.!9.800
11/0'i/:lll7
Work Description: Cttanng 2 non-k>.W. bc-;mng ~,alh 111 laundcy room RougJ, and fioal ifl.$J>CCbOO iequittd
PB17-1768
:.OLESKI\. GEORGE A
:?4101 BEEOIRD
$670.00
Work Description: lnstalluion of 13 HelJctl PtetS pc-rcngmeeted specs.. ln~whl:tol"$ logr«fwred before fimJ .in:,pecnon a.sde1.1iled u,
speci.fiQ.ltiOllS
!'817-1887
Kl~D. I ~TIHE\T
:?4-447 GLENI:.'YR!E
$6.800
S:?IR.00
12/07/).)17
Work 0cKripc1on: lu:!tall 10 1.--inyt rcpuct-mcnt 'fib.,do,u
Inst.ill "·indo\\·~ &Jldo.rdvorpcrcontuct. Fene 1ration lrtble, tnusl bc-lefl on,indo"',/doon unttl .Uta 61\.11
uupccbOn. Final in.-pcction required.
PB17-1978
\'tl-!ITE. SH.~ON
23659 LAKE R.\\1''1;S
$:5?.0t)
$1 l.000
12/20/2017
Work Ducriptioo: Strip & Rcshinglc Roof 13# felt kc & \V,tcrShiclcl. Drip Edge Vent,, FJ.,bing & Shingle>. T"·o U'-'pccnons
requittd: Opcn/Prog,.e,s & Final Roof, undcr~/12pm:h. "'-'O U)"Cts 15# n,qwrod. Roofs under 2/12piu:h.
~f<tnbran• r<quued R905.2. 7
PB17•19?7
•
S:?.,7-1(,
I.Js!GHT.A.,DRE& YAL-\Rl 261-IO W9 .\llLE RD
01/11/~18
Work Description:
lru.t.all \l.i.nJo,...- pu cont.tact. Feniest.rntion l:ables mu!t be left on \1,,ndav,.-, unul after fuul inspection. ftniJ
imp«rionrequi=l.
1'818.()(\.16
BLOCKER. OLIYER
'.!5910 FOREST \ "\\"
$1,S-13
$134.00
OI/J0/3118
W'ork De.sc.ripc:ion: Inst.ill 3 \"lnyt replac~menl v.-indows
lrun.l.l ,inJov,"! per contract. ~mstutwo IJ.bl6 mwt ~ lcfr on 0,inJows ua.,b.l 11.nt'r fu,:J. inspe-ction 1-Ilu.l
m.,pccnoorcquircd
PB18--03l2
BIGGS, WALKER \' !fl & BIC 2361)() 0.-.K Gl£N DR
H390
03/01/"1J!18
$13,500
03/16/2!Jl8
\'Vork Dc:sc.ripciori: Ul!>~ rolled li'bctt)· roofing on b1Kk .kldition only. opco roo( an<l 6n-al uupecuoos ttqtn~PB18-03J5
s~urn, ROBE.RT & O!RISTI
23100 'IHOR.,CUFFE
$'.?97.00
Work Description: Stnp llnd re-roof hou,:;c 11,th attached gata~
Stnp & Rewngl< Roof 15# felt ko & ~ ·•ttr Siu.Id. Dnp Edg,, Ven,,. Flblung & Slungl.,s T ~·o lll"(>OCWO,
r<quir<-d Op<n/Prop.s & Firutl Roofs under4/12p11ch. two byer, 15# n,q<ared. Roof.under 2/12pitch.
'.\lcmhr,,ne n,q,iu:«L R905.:.7
S"1> & R..!ungk according to conlract T.,.., inspectioru rcqumd. Opm/Progtt,s and Fin"1.
PBl8-03G5
B.\."-11'5. RICI-L\RD & CORW ::-1644 GLE.'-IEYRlE
Sl,159.!•l
$55,958
O-l/~/:all8
Work Description.: Construct• 491.5 s,q. ft. en.:lo~d t1-un room. Footing, nnd, 1Vugh .ind fuu1 tn5p,CCriotU icqlJU'Cd.
PBIS--037:?
PYE SH!\Ql,lTA Q
:mo; L\KE RA\'ISES
S375.00
$18,N3
03/28/3>18
Work D<scription: I Layer tor off m<l re•roofhousc ,nd g,tra!,"'· Stnp & Reshinglc Roof 13# fub Ice & \''m,r ShicW. Dnp Ed~ \'nu,,
A .... lung&Shingl& Two oi;pecnon, requim,~ Opm/Progtt•>& Fuul Roofs under 4/l2p1tch. two 1,yon 15#
ttqui.rc:d Roof:t un<ltt 2/1:!pitch. Memhr,uie tt'<lUrcd. R9052.7
PBIS-0-157
COWNS. \1CK!
23685 S.\.\fOSET TRI.
$350.00
S6,50(1
04/l3/21ll8
Sl.080
04/.i0/"1J!J8
$9500
06/19/:ll18
$7,720
06/ll/3Jl8
\Vor-k Dcscripc:ioo:
PBl8-0-IR3
ST.\S13ROl"GH.BE\'ERLYJ
2:53:JST.\l,'TON DR
\Vork Descripcion: LJ~tall (2) ,,nyl tepl.lccinent u.-in,k.,"·s.
PB l&-0605
SMrrl !, L>\..\! \R & ~L \R11H
~4833 S!\MO$ET TRI.
Work Description.: R.esidcnriill Pool Dcm.10--complc1~ rcmovi\l
PBl8-0848
•
HELD FA\!ll.YTRl•~•
$31500
or gun.ite mgrouod pooL bac~ pl::1cc ropsoil
:?5875 IUREST \W
$3lR.<Xl
Work D«cripe:ion: Stnp gnJ re--roof hcn.a,c only
Srnp& R.shmgk Roof 13# f<b Ice& \'.i«Shiokl, Dnp Edge \"cnt>. Fl,-lung&Slungk,. Tw0uupcc110ns
rcqntrect Opcn/Progrc.:,..• & Fmal. Roofs um.ler-4/J:! pitch. tw""o b~·ers 13# ~uittd. Roof.s undct ":./12.pik::h •
~tcmbn1M rtqwr.ed. R90.5.2.7
Strip & ReWnglc accorthng IO COt1lrJ.CL Two tn.-!l()Ktromi requucd: Open/Progrns and Fmal
PB 18--086!
$8,78,
TROTTER. R & B.\L"GH,\L'\."> 23325 nroR.,CLlFFE
Work Ocscripcion: Con~truct
A
06/22/3!!8
16 x 16 ~udcck.
Corutrucl 3 ,...--ooJt:.n d«.k
~r iapprou:d p.Ltn,._ Footing. ~o jobt. b.t~nl rcstnunl ,:upport &. final tn..."f>CCbOn
rcq,a.rcd
PBl8-ll9-lq
STOV.\U, T.'.NY \
233311 OM, Gu:N DR
\t'ork Dcscripc:ion: StlJP and re-roof ho'-""C' ~omple-11:
$'.!6:?.00
57.JOO
06/'.!6/2fJ18
�1'1.118-11111
rnxo,. ·.\\l&,ll\\\"'sl'.~\
S16,0&I
:?37:!"llEECIIRD
117/ 21/:)>18
Work Dc.. c rip<ion: TC'..roff 11ntl rc.:~roofh<>u1c- An<l g:Ar.lgt:
sinr & R,,lungk Roof IS# fdt I« & \\'11« Sh.. JJ. Drip EJgc Yrnt>, fl,,Jung & ,hingk, 1,.-o •n,p<cb<>U>
~ - (")pcn / Progre,., ~- rm.J Roofe u,W,u 4/ 1:! pitch, t\\ Oby~n 1:;tt ""'lutttd. Rtlof untLer ':. / llp1t.:h.
\{nnhr.mc f'Nll.W'Cd. R'X)~:? 7
Stop&.
P818-IO>-!
~hinglc .'l..:con.hng1ocontr.1ct
SECORD. L.YN:S
lv.-out."'f'CCUOtl n.'qtntffl Opn,J r'ro~•
wJ J·uul
6,
J~ \47 S~\IOSPT l RI
N)
07/17/ :))18
Work lx"c ripcion: lu~wbw.m of 57 fttl of mtcn,."lr 5ta) sod d.r.11.n "f51:cm pc:r coi1tnt;;I. rough 1J final ln~c.:uos\d req-.11rt:d . Sq,cr.1tr
Plumhmg ~mul RnJ U\.,,«rton-1 ttqlllttd.-Surnr rumr dtx-.h.a~ hlll lX' l•> the ~I >nn dr.un ,-hen .\-.il.abk.or to ..
loobon 'PP'°'«! by the City of Southf><kf• J",,ginttnng Drp,runmt
PBIR-11>)9
PERRY, DE.R.RYL & TIIERF-
p 787 03/0R / :llJR
2.':!l'I 01 'TWCX~D DR
\\ ork t~cripc ion: Zo1ungco1~la.ani.:.ercnmt t.:>uut.dl •1hcJon I concmc uh
tmptthOr\l'C'\f-li.rcJ
PBl8-1:15
and ~i:v.allpnappro,tJrlans S-utd and final
H/IIIR
$187.00
HI "" . COR.'sTl.ll 'S\"&LO :?35705.\clC>SETTRL
08 ( 16/ 3118
last.ill"'tnduw ~JorJ.x»rpcrcontr.act. h:,~o;tnticnll!..&c,mu,tm"ktt('tl v.·mJo,. / do.•o unnl;a.ft1tr fuul
f in,I tmp«ll<ln ,xqu,rcJ.
uup,coon
\\ otk Dncription: T c-arofr anJ Rt-roof hou,c & g:t,..agr.
PBl8-1~
DlX0:-.1, "\.\l&SII\W'sTA\
$119.0lt
:?37:!.'iBfF.CIIRD
$:!.In
09/ 14 / :ll!S
$10,057
09/ 10/:lllS
" o r~ Oc.8Cl'lpc ion: C'41ttn R.tpba-mmt
(m:wlabOo.ofgutte:npcccontr.a..:L f"Vl,.,M~1 rcquucd
PBl8-IH~
BRIGG,, G ...R\' & RHO. D \
:?>'il.O l'l,STER RD
\\ orkO«cription: ·,np& R<.hinglc Roof 15# fdt lcc&\\'.i«Shi<IJ, Drip l'.Jg< \'<n~, llo,l,a,g& Slunglc T,-ouup,ecbOm
tt<pattd0p<n/Pm1"'<'-,&F,rul R,-.,f undcr4112rud1, ... ouvers 15# "''l.attd. Roof,unJcr~/1:!rnch.
\lemb,...., n,quittd. R•Jo5.::. 7
PB18-l~J
PYF.SIHQ\ :IT.- .Q
PBl8-I ~I
\ULE..~l,;.IY, GEORGE-~
$31:?.fO
m.o··
io/<l9/3'18
$11,763
I0/09/:!ll
Wo rk De c ript,o n: Stnp & R<Ju.,glc Roof 15# felt kc & W.icr Shield, Dap EJg,, \"oni., Fb,lung & SlunpN, T,-o arurcction,
ttqUU<d Op<n/Pmgtt,o & fi,ul Ro,,f, undcr4112pitch, ... o I.,~,... 15# n,qW<d Roofs w,J,,2/ 11pi~h.
\lcml,,mc ""f'&l.-d. R<J05 :?.7 S1np & l\,slungk .o,:a>rd111 to coutnc1. T ...., in,p«bon< ""l'un,d Op,n/P...,l(tttt
and fin..J
$4)1,4 1?
$1,0,.7.00
IU/01/3)18
ork Description: Water d.anugt rep.air Jk.!f -pa.~
1'8 18-15 19
LO:SG. BfR.'-ETI.\
:?J111 sr.,l xros DR
$~9.00
\\ ork llacripc ion:
Stnp & R,,b,ngk Roof l'i# ldt I« & \\',t<T ShiclJ. Dnp f:.d. \enr Ft,, lung& Slungks. T"o Ul,p<ell<•n
rcquu,d Or<nJP,ogrns& Frn.J. Roof,1a><kr~ / 11potch,i-..-obr= 1,<1 n,qurttd Roof,und.r1 112pud,
\leml,,...,., n,quaml R90, :?.7
~mp & Rnhm~ ocrotdu,g., contncl h-o 111,,.c:t,on> "'!"'mi Opn, ( P,ogn:,. and ~•ul
PBI
1,>-1
su,ro
J\' PROPE.RTif' &l''\'E.'11-1 ~7:,R.\~GP.\IORE
o rk Daaipcion: R.rpl,cnncnt of 9 nnyl rq,b..:em.:nt
!.f!!Jl
I0/ 17/ JJIB
.,,no;,.,
lnstaD •11llXl•'I ak.l or Joorpn con.tract fn1ntntioo
r-...i ..,,,,..,_ oeqwal.
labks must be- lrft on •--iodo•
/ doors unnl .1fttt final
~
PBl!l-1596
Sl4.5M
FLOYD,G.\RDELL
Ill! 19/ 3Jl8
\\ ork OcKription: Tear-oft· and rc"•-roof
!>tnp&Rnhinpo=,nhngiocontn,u T,-o•»p«""'n~Opcn / Pmgr,, .,,Jf..,.[ •. tnp&R<slunj;k
Roof 15# felt Ice & \\ •t<T 5rudJ, Dnp Cdgo \'rnt•, 11• rung & ~ T•·o uupn-uv,,. n,quaml Op,n/!'rogrr"
& Fuu! Roof ~r4 1t-:?p1t..:h.t•0 layttt l~#ttq\Dttd.. Roofs w-.lrr 2/l::!p,k:h. \(1..-mLranr ~I.AttJ. R')(H .27
PBlll-1608
\TI'.BSTI:R-J.V: K.'iO. ·,\'l"E:\l: 24'JIIO -.\MOSCTTRI .
PBIR-l6"R
S~I.\RT, RICH \RD/ ~IIRI .\.\I
::3:?51 \\"RE.\'.1-0RI)
$)9,131
10,1:413118
$1 J,-l(O
10/ J<l/ 311~
Work O«criprion: Tnmlf anJ ~l'O<Jfhou,. and g,,r,g,
& R<.lungk Rool I<;# Jdt !er & \\",tor ~Id. Dnr l'.Jgc \ 'mt • ll•mong& Slungks. Tv.-, in•p«t.,n
ttq'-'lttdOp<n/P"'S'"'&Fiml R,x,f under4 112p,td,. t-..-o 1.i= J)# mjtR..J. Roof, undcr2/11p,tch,
\tanl,rmc K"q'.nred R~H ~-; Strip & Rc-,.hu,.- .tc:corJi.ng W contr.-.:L Tv.-o in~tfoot ttquim.L Opcn/Progrn-1i
and f",n,J
. tnp
PBl!l-1679
P-.m. \\.\RJ..: .\
24/.00 EDGE.\10. :i
PBl8-16'J4
S. IITII, LA.\I\R & M \RTI I\
:?-1833 5.\.\IOSET TRI
$17,:?13
11 / B / )llR
s2-n,w1
\\ ork Uacripc ion: T~u off anJ rc-roofb.)u'\e' 01Jy,
tnp & R«hingk ao:nnLng tu contn<t. T,..., m,pc:cboo, ~ral. Open / P~• anJ l'ut..d. ~mp&. Re.Jungle
Roof 15# fdt I« &Wata 9u<IJ, Dap Cdgo \ "•nl", R,,lung& Slungk T•·o Ul,p«.bon> n,qutttd Oprn/P,ogr<••
&. Ftn..l Roof~undcr 4 f l2ptd\.1w.--ola)cr-15# ttql.Rttd. Roof undcr-:!./ l~p1h.:h. \lfflmrane rftiUlttd R905 :!.7
PB18-18~
1111.1, DESHA\ . ..\
:?32,1 BEECH RD
$167.(1()
$:')JU)
11 ( 14/)IIR
Jot
11 / 2?/ )llH
\\. ork O«cripc,on: SHIP =node! on $-211~) tncluJ.," mofing. d<mo. and a,raury
PBl8-I <;7
\CII.F-~Y.GI.ORGf.A
~4!01 IIEHCH RD
W"orL. O«cripc: IOn: Construct a •"OOl..ir:n dn..--k ~r llfl'PN'--al pWlS. h,otang. open JO'l"t. latrr.al rutr.unt 5-upport & f:uul uupccbnn
rrqu,,td.
PBl8-1ll6H
1-.J.IEBER. R\Y\f 1-.;D
$199IO
S:i,6/JII
12l U7/ :ll18
\\ ork ~ripcion: ln~lAll 1, nnyl rq,t.:.:.,ncnr • ·iin,d,,l,. & {Z,1 (lo.-,,..n,
In,ull -a."'U.J.:i, 2nd or door pn cuntUICt. fcnr.,.tunon ~ , mu.t ht, l1;ft on
an,p<eb•>n fo..1 ""('«UOO ~
PBlll-1
Work.11cac-ripei.on:
$HJ
,-mdo• / <loon. unnl airer tUl•l
•
Sl'i,~1
11 / 3tJ/ 3ll8
�and foul. Strip & Re.!unglc Roof I '>II- fell k< & W>t« Sluekl. Drip &lg< \'ents. Aa,lung & Shingl,s. R.oo& under
4/12 pitch. two b~ers 15# rf'qum:cl Roof• under 2/1:!: p11ch.. \lcmbr.ine required R905.2.7
PBIS.1918
•
RO\\E,DASH.\WN V
S5,7(XJ
2-'767 TI\IBERLl:--:E
01/03/2lll9
\Vo rk Oescripcio n: Lost.ill (.),. Vlrl)I ttpl.ict:mtnt ~"Uld..>u,
lnsuU "-1ndo\l:s and or door per contuct. Ft'.ne!ttr.1tion 1.ibles mu-.t be left on ,,"l.n<lo\\.'i/<loors untJ .after final
inspection. . fU1.il in."P«rirm teqllll'cd..
PBl9>H46
COX,S!IERYL
26976 \X'9 MILF RD
$1551.00
$ ltJ2.(ll)l
02/08/:ll I 9
Work Ocscripcfon: Compktion of new re,:1drotial con,-1nlcilot1, ongm-'.l bu1khngpemlit PB16--13:H Joh lS c~unurcd to be 6(1'1''"
completed
PBl9-0174
$173.00
TO~ IBEW, CARLO& BL\C 23415 O\K GLEN DR
$3.973
Ol/O-l/3JJ9
\Vo,-k Desc:ripcion: lru.uU ..vindows .ad or door per conlt-.lC-L Fc:n~stT.1tion lable.<J. mwl he left on "-'lndc;,\\.'J/dooB until .ofter fin.d
U191>~tion. Fin-:al inspcc:uon n:-qu::tred.
PB19-0574
IIE.'\OFJt.<;QN, lROY
$569.ll()
$30,000
0"/31/3JJ9
Work Description: Inst.all v.-i:ndo" .u1d or U!aor ptt cnnt.ract F~:>1r.'ttioo lah~ D'll..r!I be lef1 on v.,odo• ,/duo" until after fin.sl
UL•p«ucm. Fm.U tn.~pcction re.quired. ln:otall ::I) vioyl ~ e : n l v.i.ndo'G:.s
S2.'i6.CXI
Wo rk Dcscri ptfon, Smp & Rewuglc Roof IS# fd1 Ju & W.i« Shield, Dnp Edge \'<nl,. Flo,lung &!>fungi<,. Two w,pcctwn,
re9Wr«l Opon/Progre,. & Final Roof, under 4/12pnch.. i,.·o I•)'"" 15# ""l'"'"d Roof, umler 2/12pnd,,
\l<tnb...... "'<!Utt«!. R905.2.7
PBl9-0592
GIBSO?-i, \TILLIE B
S2.S85
24300 lXKSTE:R RD
05/31/2019
Wo rk Dc,cription:: lmtsU 'lliindov..... and or door pttcontncl. F~ocstr.abon J.ibki must be lcfl on wmdo11,.,./doors unu.1 afrCT final
llli,cction.. Fin.ti iz~uon required.. 5 vinyl rep1..ccinent ~mdo,a:-s
PR19-0<,!8
\\1LUE D JONES
:!6075 R.\NGE\(ORE
$215.00
$6,(\()7
06/19/11)19
Work DescriJlrion: lmit:ill 4 ttplao:mcn.1 (6bergl.m:J ~,ndo"·s. LntaU "-indo\L-"S and or door per contoct. fcncstnrion l.iblC"s m\.bt ~ kh
on "mdo~-:s/doon until afler fuu) in~uon. Final uupecuoo ttqu:t.red..
PB19~)6-19
POTIS,JOHN G &JE.\N B
2.10~) L\KE R\\1XES
$652.('()
$-30,5+1
05/JJ/:))19
~ 1ork Dcsc:ripc.io n: lnsull ,'ll1<lao.~.m<l ordoorpn cnntr:acL Fn~str.ttion lable$m\.l!l be- left on 'IL'U.K¥)"'-,/doott until .It« fiml
imp«tion.. Fm.ti in,p«non rcquaral.
PB19-07?5
S.\IITH,JEFF IR
~47UI SAMO'ET TRL
$--187.!l(J
Work Dcacrip(ion: lntce.oor ~·.1tcrproofing. 1908 Sq Fi ccawbpa« n,c.11psuJ... non
engineenng. ,rtt no res on Kope of work.
PBl?--086-1
to
$J.l,5(Vl
06/l9/:llJl9
3 ,u""1 PI.IJ:11f't'· Sunl) location appro\'ed by
STA'-BROL'.GH, BEVERLY J :?253JSft\L':'-'"TO. DR
$147.00
s1.3n 06/rT /3>19
Wo rk D«cription: h1St.Jl v.iodo11r"3- J.ndordoor pc-t contract. FC'nC''-lnttion l~Je~ ml.Ht be left on wutdov.,/doott until 4ifrer fuul
ir,,pttrioo.Fi..-tlin,pcctio11~2v.indo"'
P019-09.>I
~L\11\IOL'D, EZZELDl:S
$81,.00
23310TIIOIL'-CLIFFE
$35,450
07/18/3)19
$6,990
08/05/2019
Work O csCffpt io a: Ship f'tmockl per contnu,: 1
PBl9--0987
KNIGHT, .\.'-DRE& V,\LARJ 26140 W 9 MIL£ RD
\Vork Ix c ripc io n: hucnorb11.:;C"11le1lt ,·:1.terproofut~ U1!'t.alhng 15-1-' of ➔ " S & D pipt l'Q .m c~i,ung sy1ut:m. suolf) d.i.sch.ugc l.!C\1rttndy
ucdinro J"lOnn
•
PB l'l-1075
BOZIN, Kr:.ITII & SCHWART 23565 OL'1'''00D DR
$490.00
SU,721
07/~/2019
Wo rk Dcscripc ion:
lmt!tU -.-i.ildo,i,--, •nd or door per contnKt. Pcnc.suation bbks OW$t be left on windows/door, until :.1.fti:r 6.oa.1
irupection. Fin.,Jirup<ction ttqui,:cd.
1'1119-1 162
JO'-ES,SH.\KIRA
Work o.:..cnpooo:
PB19-1316
coru.tNCt
23049 Sf:\l':-.TON DR
ramps ptt pl;;;.
\ULESKIY,GEORGEA
1'i.l·
$3.308.6-1
$175,000
09/'!ll/2019
g
2-\IOI BEEGI RD
t,
$12S.OO
$9,900
08/1l/.l'119
Work Dc.sc:riptioo: ln.u~.llahon of ~:.mdby Ceoeatoi
PBJ9-l224
HEID F.\.\l!LY TRUST
2587" FOREST \'W
$317.00
Sl3.:?00 08/28/3lt9
Work D«cription: ln..iull u-uidov.--, 1111d or door~ c.ontr.k..-;. fcnt'Rntion LablM: must be kft on WJndo .....,,/doors uubl afi.o: final
in,pecuan. Fm.il UlSp«UOn ~ ~6 ,-inyl rq>l.acffllenlJ.
P819-l.l49
CEBRECO. XIOM.\R.\ _\
'.!J.!00 O.\JZGLEN DR
S320.00
$15,050
Oll/06/21119
$125.0o
$!.600
10/ 15/21)19
$11acxi
$4,285
J0/07/:!JJl9
$30').00
$7.000
10/23/2019
$.l4LOO
$14.79CJ
12/09/~l9
$5.000
11 /07 /:)) 19
Work 1.)ucrfption: Tcu off old r00f .tnd uut.all oc-v.· roof
PBJ9-l+n
JOH:S:SO:S:, MYRTLE,J.\Cl-:5( 258TT BEECH CT
Work Deocript ion: lh 16' ooocn,1< med p•J .,/24" e1tv.all CO:S:CRETI:ONLY PERMIT
PBl9-!516
!IOI-FM \S1ER. DA\10, M.\F 24154 ROL'GECREST
Work De.B-C.ri pc.ion: Rcplxb\8 4- u-U\00"'~
PBl9-l602
HARPOOTIU,\N UYING TR 23710 SAMOSET TRL
Wo rk Descriptio n: .&.thtoom remodel
PB19-1718
COWNS. \1Cf.;J
23685 S.\MOSETTRL
\Vo rk OC1-Cripti.on: l 70 Ft of Ulttrior U.":ltcrpt00ftng. 2 5ltmp pumps
PBl?-1726
JOH's,o:,.:, MYRTLE, JACK.<;< 258TT BEECH CT
Wo rk Ck.scffptfon: - \uu ~,c,,,,
PB19-178?
JKLRE.-U.l'IT.-\TECOLLC
25870W9M1LERD
$146.00
Sl,900
03/l l/2020
23345 11 IOR.'s'OJFFE
$237.00
$8,000
03/ 11 /3J20
$21,687
05/('8/:roJ
$13.0(X)
05/12/3.J:!JJ
\Vork Oeti-«ipcion: ~cv. roof/ ~-roof
PB:!(1..()231
P.\TRICK K'\RL
~ 'ork Deic..ription: ln~"u ~ \ \ (rffietlllOr
•
Pll20-0356
\'FREEN.CH\.\IA\');EC
:?3815O.\KGLENDR
PB:Y).0385
I LARRJS, 0.\\10 JR
23336 TI IO!LS:('.LIFFE
$3MOO
24730 GLENC\'RIE
Sl:?..iOO
\l?ork Dcscrip1 ion:: Demolish in•ground pool
PB'.J)-0516
\lOORE. OOL'GL\., R
S2.JOO 00/03/3!:0
U 'ork De:seripe:ioo: 10' x 1-f Concn:-tc ,w, v.'l1h 2-f' r.>.rv.-all on!) jfo, ih.edJ
Sll,4\JJ
%/15/~JJ
Work Dct1c.ripc.ion: Stq> and tt--roof house and gar,gc-
M/19/?f):!fl
�r
PB:!14105::?
CRl"\lP,.'JlTHl:R&JOH:S:SC 23130 ST;\l''-'TON DR
$317.00
SIOJXIO
07/::?7/'111:,J
$-l80.0(I
s,,,soo
07/::?7/JJJ'.11
$.l04(1(l
$1:?.1'll
07/16/:!J.J:!l.l
54 68
Oft/0-1/3l21J
S'.!32tX'J
$4.1192
O'J/11/3.J:))
$:?1:!00
SROOO
l:?/03/203.l
$227.(WJ
S8 950
1:?/:?:?/:,'J'.ll
$6,111-1
01/211/:ll:?l
$-1:!,7~
02/02/:ll21
$21,986
03/23/3.)21
$330.r.>
Sll,8'>0
0-1/01/;,'J:?l
$-IOll.00
$'.11,9W
04/07/~21
$1,359.40
$1,11,3111
04/3>/20:?l
$9,6?0
OS/0/,/3J21
$249.fXJ
JR,762
05/(16/:)J:?I
$:?97.00
I J 150
06/0.l/3.l:?f
$-113.0t)
Sl7,'Xrl
07/1::?/20:?I
$757.(1()
$4-1,205
07/12/:021
Work Dcticription:: ....:cv. conipo-.,tt deck conlltn.cnon
PB:!11-0/,6'.:
\KRA\I, Ml'H.\\I\U\D, Z\1-1 :?f<l5!l R.\NG['\fORE
\"\'ork De~cription: rebuild e>;:1.sring <kck. Build 16 x 1(, &1~rui,;i11
7 / 16/~l 2dtfendum. ~et1ve<l llrld .1pprm et.I ru
:?~83 Ol..7'.XClOD DR
\\ork Description:
PB3l-\¥)(4
~tnp
.md f'C'-roof hou<,t- .wd ~ltKhcd ganti~
:;s;o \\'9 \IILF. RD
JKI. RF.,\!, E~Txm <:o Ll.C
\lork Dc,cription:: Rc,no<ld Ult.cnor pt't :1tt.6(;hc:>J pl~,, "'-ith 11t\\ rear dcd pct .ittxhed !IJ>CI:~
PB:,).(117,
Bl"RRELL.JEJ',;C.\CE
\Vork Oc:wcripcion: lnc;;t.ill a J0'1:I~ !>lK.J on
PB:)).l:?5:?
1
1!.s:12'x•f' coJKrcte- .J.J:J
Q.tth
1-f' utu.all
\JEWR. \l.\RTIN & \!OR.RE: 24765 E.DGE.\10'-T
\Tork Dc~crip<ion: Rcrl;leitnl cn,.ting l)'xl4' deck on~ ~,ng.le frurulydwdhng
PO:!l'l-1699
HO\\'-\RI), ROOSE\c.LT & L 23::?41 Ol T\\OOD DR
\\orkDcscrip<ion: Tcaroflroofb.iek ideonly
PB:lll-1786
PERR\,DERR\1,&nlERE!> :?.l~llOLT\\"OODDR
'Work De cription: Roof ttpl-accmrot for ho'-'M' and gitcage
P821-005b
\t1NCGARDFS,OIRl5TOPf 2+1<XJl:S:1'.~1ERRD
Work De cripcion: Rq,laang p,tw door
PB:?1~)060
24101 BEECH RD
\flLE$~Y.GEORGE \
Work Description: kitchen rcmodc.l
ro:1-0:;;
243-17 S.\.\fOSE.T TRL
HE5TER,ALUSO'-' K
$4-19.00
\lfork Dcecripcion; uu1.Jlmg suhiioil dram n.lc~. tnlJ:n<>r/ e~nor b.u,em~u ',\·.atetpf"'IOfing, ump p...-np
PB:?1-0:?9,
PD:?l-0374
24-152 S.\.\fOSl\T TRL
JELEZARO\'.\, V,\'--YA
Work Dc:•cription: Remove:
lllground
~\\i.irurung pool
DOL'GL\SS.j.\\lES & PAULI 23700 0,IK GLEN DR
Work Dcacrip<ion: Roof replacrmcnt for hou,c aoJ goragc
PB'.!1--0439
"1Cf,U::\D, ERIC
'.!3-1:!II O.\K GLEN DR
Work Dc1criJKion: ITxU! 1 nory a<1..ht10n
PB21-'l583
to
the rear o( Ml esi a.ng 1 swry si.ngfe. f.iaul:) d...~n.u.,g
00l1Gl.AS1,JA.\1ES& P.\1 11.I :!JiOO O.\KGLE
DR
Work Oucription: RCPI.ACl"JG:? EXISTISG P.-\TIO IXXJRS.
Work Oucripcion:
PB:?1..0789
replocing 2 p•uo doo"
\ICKJ>J':EY, JERC.\IY,JA<:K: 260GO \\9 MfLE RD
Work lkscripcion: Roof rtpUCftnfflt for hou,e only
PB:?1-1115?
JOH--.:so,. MYRTLE, JA<:KS<
aim BEP<:H CT
\\ork. Ocicripc-ion: Tur otT and tt roof l:wu5t'. Md g ~
PB2l-100l
WOODS, <:HER\'L •.._
:?3-l&lO.\KGLL
DR
Work Oescription: rcpm- roof cum.age from f.Jlcn ~ •me l!btwltion. R-49, rq,l.ac.:,e gun~n And do,.."Tlspout;, .1dJ gutter gwurd
n._'ilroff and re-roof ho~ ..ld 11uch«l gar.igc:
PB:?1-1253
.\LTER, N ..ES\
:!37600\KG!F.N DR
$2(4.0t•
$5.9'i<)
08/11/:)121
$23_<;-17
08/09/3.121
Work Oe.cription:: htittll 13J lmc:111 ft Ultcaor v.:a~tpto06.ng ~ tern.~ 10 u:iswtg fUl.11() pun1)
PB:?1 -1 275
SMOUNS~, DP.N:S:IS & JE.A :?3777 O.\K GLEN DR
\t'ork Description: S1:np and re-roof, Ul ull Cl("\\, G.·\J· Tun>t'~ ·~ruc;,J Sh.dow roof ">"tern on bou.:.e And .att.iche<l g.trsl~.
PB:?l-1313
OWC:S:S, ROD:S:E\' & I.AL"RI 2-11)23 GLCNEYRIE
$17')()()
$1,237
08/17/21121
$:?93.IXJ
$11,479
09/02/2021
$189.()1)
$5.000
O'i/3.J/3121
Work Dc,cription: repl.Kcmm.t of exteoor door ID g.anagt
PB:!1-14:!.'i
\~'ORTI-IEY,AI f'llED/~lCIX ~60 L,_KE R.\\1:S:ES
Work Oc1crip<ion: RCPL\0 G -I L\J.STl'-G "1 'DClWS
PB:?1-1529
Q-L\P.\L\'-', Cl-iARI.ES
2-IIJ(ll GLCNEYRIE
Work Dcscripdoo: \1,:"e u~ pW111111g on rt-rno~mg ~ old ..,lungks
Pl\21-1>38
.\II, 'GO, HOR·\C£ I\'
Work De cripcion:: lo.stall re-toQf on b.i.>\»e ffld
PB21-1596
• ,un l,JO!IN & DE.HOR.\!!
thC'Jt
rq,laang '41th ~"' ~,~s, ,~n~. wd Cl.l.'-hmg
2m,OSA.\f0SfcTlRL
11tt;1c~
s.s;oo
SllJ,750
09/1.l/:?IJ:?I
Sll:!ll()
.,
0'1/:?2/:021
gar.lgt.'
:.io;,, TI\IBERUSE
Work Dctfcription: Rq:,l:tU lo,·er p:1d of roof ,tuch LS k.J,;i,,1g 11J1d rcpt.cc ..,ood \\--hetc nttJ,:J.
PB21-16J9
S\l!Til,JEH JR
14701 SA,\IOSE.T TIU.
$487.0l.l
$:?i,,19~
10/(16/:?ll21
2479'1 GLENEYRJE
S:?:?1.fll
$7.0tlU
I0/06/~I
Wotk Description: rc.1.roff & rc--roof
PB:?l-165Q
FORG:\Cll", .\IJ'\:
Work Dcsc-npcjon: Rcrno'-'c .i'l)h.all 3 t:1h ,Nngk~, w.Jc-rtl)meulJ and Dnp «lge. lrutall nr-w Ice A,nd \\"111ter 5lucld. Dnp EJ~.
\.bldtd.1)'Tile'llb,
PB:?l--20tJG
anJ i\n:.h1k:ctur.'1 ffllnid,t:J.
WORTHEY,.\LFRED/\!CIX 2:?86'1 I.AKE R.\\1:S:ES
$23.980
11/17/3.l:?I
$8.ft:?6
l~/01/211::?l
$407.(ll
$10.850
l:?/:?7/:!!121
$1%.00
$,.¥~/
10/05/:lJ 17
$5<J.lf)()
\t·o,k Description: ne, roofing Ylmglc,
PB~l-2017
GOTTSOL4.l.K, OE.llOlVJi
2386'> BEECH RD
W0rk Description: De-ck rephccn~nt-S.i.mc sue
PB:?l -:?189
f-ORG.KIL. AU:S:
:?H'l'l GI.FNL\lUf
Work Ob4:ripcion: li1~t:1U (iJ' ' ftJ of tntcoW. dr.im ,y~ll;"tll
1'817-1 '\/-0
!...""\.1Sf!LCR, ROBE.RT & ORES :?4228 EDGl(\IO:-.,
�\\'orkDegcr-ip1ion: lrut.Jl wmclo'1.-!I- and or door p4!'T oontr.lCL ~ene~t.s:.i.llon bble, mu11t he lefl on \\"1Jtd()\l,·,/doori: until after fi.n.J
m....,,tc-11011. Fin;tl iu::-pecrion reql,.U.t.ed.
PBIS-17!0
2.lo85 S_\MOSETTRL
COLLINS, \'!CK!
lil2,500
$:112.00
10/30/~l8
\'(lork Descriplion: Srnp & Re:5hingle Roof 15# felt Jee & w·a.tee Shiel~ Dnp .Edge \~cnt!'-. fl:1,r;hmg & lunglcs. Two 1nspecuoru
ct"qlutcd Open/Pro~ & fln~I RnoU undcr..J/12 pitch. f\\"n layer, l-# teqlu.rcd. Roob undcr'2./12pitch,
•
\(emb~nc rt'C!wred. R9()5.27
Stnp & Re'!'i-1u-nglc accorJing lO coorr.i.cl. Two in..i,cction, require-cl Opo1/Progtc.$5 and fin.th
PB!9-l391
24780 S.\MOSETTRL
JO:SES. \1'.R.\ ROSETB
$442.00
$23,212
09/:?l!/M9
$947.00
$15,000
03/'.!l.>/1.fl~l
Sl50,l)(JJ
12/10/2020
Work Ocscr-i-ption: Tt:ar nff .uKI reroo( h.ou~. Remove/ repl:\Ce gutten.
PB:?IH 189
BR:STO:s, E.\RLETTE & ~I.\ 2+179 S.\J\IOSET TRL
Work Dctrcripcion: Butldmg~ 30'x..J::!' dtt.icbcd g~gc
5/19/21 :unmcnded ,11e plitn Add 1tcktttion.1l co1Krete dm+C-\1.1lY
PB:?ll-15-13
.-\U.E.,, KE:-;NE11-!
ai.1..l
2.."903 STAL'.>-TON $T
patlo
N
S?,517.00
Work Description: Const:roct1on of a:! "ltory 11i.ugle fiun1ly re:,idc11cc.- 'w;th :u1 l'lltacheJ si'r•g-c on .s. full b:.~ment
Wcinent J~66 sq. ft.
1st floor l5G6 "l·f•
2ndfloor 1519oq.fL
G•"'S"
~50 "l· fL
PB:!0-1736
BE.-\\llY BOX SFLD LLC
$1,105.00
$15,',IJ0
01/'.!9/2021
n821 STAt;:--TON DR
$294,()(l
$?.91!(]
03/19/3)21
:!J.183 OUTWOOD DR
$893.CIO
µ3.250
05/03/'.ml
24940 W,\ YCROSS CT
$341.00
S7,650
05/12/2021
$358.00
Sll,571
06/~/~~1
$~8.00
S6,500
06/'.!J/2()2.I
$3'\4,00
U:?,300
08/~/20:?I
$4,215.llO
$255,000
04/2~/~17
:?5830 \\'9 MILE RD
Work OCicription: Hau: Salon and Rcuil build--out
PB2l-0238
HE:S-DER.SON, TRO\
\Vork Ocicripc:ion: Replac~ Oat roof
PB2l-0518
l.£Bl1RG, SI !Ell.,\
Work Description: 23 pier.r
PB21-06J 7
\'1-ITffiELD. STEPHEN
Work Description: -4 wall 1mchor, and 3 era\\ l,pace 111cks
P82J.()871
GR.CEN\'1:LL. scorr & HE. 24001 S.-\/IIOSET TRL
Wo,k Desc,ip<ion: REPL.\ClNG TE.N \'1:S-DO"''S, SlZC FOR SIZE
PB2l-0960
2+!-ll! GLENEYRJE
\IOR.-\LES. BEU:S-DA
Work De-script ion: TeM off J lnyef house
P82I-IJ.ll
:\ttLlc:h<d gil-r:age
reslunglc re:.iJence-
l..t\STER. JEROME& ~IARG~ 2-1391 SAMOSETTRL
Work De crJpc:ion: Roof repl1'«mffll
PBl<>-135-1
26976 \V 9 Ml LE RD
COX,Sl-lER\1.
Work Dcscripcion: )..:e\l.. Lngle fa.mil)'
r,quittd
tt,idt."flC.~
::?.332 ,q. ti. 1-1ith ba<1em.enL Footing. bnc:.kfdl, rough w:i.O. u1sul.anon and fin.it tn."'J)CCbOIU
SEC PBl9-0146orhousophq1._
B01':D robe used on ocwpemut
•
1'817--0006
11 \YES, DALE .\NO .\_\H 'G< '.!J::00 THOR.,CUFFE
$1,261.00
S65/IOO
01/ll/3l17
$212.00
$8,0CM)
03/21/:?IJ17
Work Dc11c.ripcion:
1'817-0272
_\IAZEY, GAJ L E
26441 W 10 ~OLE RD
Work De1cription: :S-ew Roof/Ho,,«. g,nge and O..t poidi roof. Strip & Rc,h,ngk •ttotdu1g to con<r..ct. Two 1n5pecbom n:qwred
Opc,n/Prog=s and f"inal. Stap & Re.hingl• Roof 15# feh le• & \''at« Sh>,kl, Drip Edge \'001a, Aaslung &
Shingk._ Tv.-o i,up,cuon, l«JW<Cd: Open/Prof!"'"' & Fi.nal. Roof, uncl., 4/ 12. p1td, 1-.·c byen 15# n,qwrcd
Roo& tmder 2/12 pitch, \lemlmn• requm:d. R9052.7
1'817.0276
TI:RNER. \1VL\N & L'PSHA 1 :!.l.JOO L.\KE RA\1:SES
$649.C()
$!5.<,12
03/23/~17
$6,612.00
H'\3,:?38
09/05/::fll7
$192.00
$5.::!llO
04/~/2017
Work Description: Rre rq,,ur•-lntcrior alrMauons.. Fsrc i:ep;Ur pct sp«s Wlttd 3/10/ 17.
Re--cou~t.ruction of the home offic;c due ro ~PBJ7--0:!93
VRHOLDINGS&DE\'E.LOP 23l750LT\'{'OQDDR
\Vork Dee:cription: 1446
PBl7-046-l
COLLlER. C:\SS:\NDR.-\
23100 LAKE R.\\1:S-ES
\Vork Dcscripcion: ln.~talt 13 \-iuyl ttpbcemcut v:indow,1
LbtaU "''llldo\\-, Nlld or door pet c:ontntet. F~lrabon 1.Wlc!i must bt kft on uindou.,/do<>r.i until a~r fu1al
Ut'{>ecUon. Fin.al inspection required.
PBl7-070'i
STEELE. ~OCHAEL/PORTIA 2.31.32 I..>,KE R.\\1:--E
$31)9()()
$14,30-l
07/18/2017
Work °"criptioru Tear off/reploce- rc,of-hou,e and 11tucbed gsr.a.ge
Strip & Rc,lunglc Roof 15# folr Ice & W•t<r Slueld, Drip Edg,- \'enr., Fl,shmg & Shi.ngl•>- T"'" in,pecoon
requu.cd: Opc,n/Prog,e,s & Fuul Roof, und., 4 / lZ pitd,, t•,o layer> 1'># o:<qull<d Roofs w\dcr 2/12pi1d,.
~lembune reqt.lltt'd. R905.~7
Stnp & Rtshingle accortbng to conlc\ct Two irupection, rcqmrcd; Open/Prop.:s!!l and Fin.AL
PB17~)72I
\'lLLI.V.IS, 110\X._-\RD & LIN Z-1611 S:\MOSET TRL
$247.(1()
$10200
o5/n/::!lll7
Work Description: Stnp&Rcshingl• Roof 15# f<lt lcc&W.rcrShield, Dap Edge Ven,., FL,,hing&Shingle< T~c in,pecuons
~cdOpen/Prognm& Final. Roof, 1>l<kr4/12p1tch, lwo by-,,..15# ""luucd· Roofs under ~/12pud,_
~l.ml>,aa, «quid R9l)5.27
PBl7-0ll:?4
JOI 1:-;so:-;, \IYR1LE,JACKSI 25-~77 BEECH CT
$165.00
$650
06/~/'/[]17
Work Dc•crip<ion: 10 X ltJ SHED lNSfAf,L.-\TIO:S \Ull-1 CO:SCRETE SL\B
Z01:ung cruq,li,mce
~mllt 10 w$t.all a
shed 011 • concrete st.band utv..ill pn ;appro,·ed pl.uu.. Sand and fin.J
uupecUOo~UU'«i
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PB17-!010
KNIGHT.. \.'\DRE&\'_\L.'\RJ 26H0W9MILERD
Work Description:
$147.00
-is s: 48 ft E~s \'(tndow
hutall h:11,o;erne-nl egre,-~ -...'ludo"'· ~r 11ppro\·ed pl.ms. Rough and final in~pcctioo required.
P8l7-18-16
FORG.\Cll1,J\Lt:--
2~799 Gl.ENEYRlE
$'i61.(l0
$18.(l!,O
I l/2n/3l17
W'ork Dt..-scription: Rcloc.a.te 2 nou-beanng wilh 10 .o\dd nustt!r b.1.th. next to 1n.1:srer bedroom.. Construct ne"' h;1tthroom :u.ld closet,
Rough and fin;U mspecnon• requu:rd. Repl.ice J~ u·indo"' min.: l1 factor-0.3!. rntinisflt.:kttmu-,;t l>C" l~ft on wmdov.
unol After fuul lll!pC.Ction.
PBlS-0:::!~
ST \:SllROl'GH. BEYERLY J
2520 ST.\l':-;TON DR
$'.!'.!7.0ll
S7.3'l5
03/12/2018
Work Dcscriprion: ln1t..1U 8 \--iny1 \\mdo11·tand '.?dooni.::1lls. lnslilll -.,ndo...,.--s and or door per conlr;&iet. FcuQlt31lOo bbb mwil ~ lef1
on '1in<lo\\-~/d<.>ors unnl after fuuJ -.n,pecuon. Fi.nal mspecoon ttqlJlttd.
�r:
PB18-11J.15
PATE. \L\R.l,,:A
2460(1 lillGE~IO~T
i19.250
$383.00
07/12/:))18
Work De.script-ion: Stnp .and Re~ruof house
~'"P & Re,lu.,gle Roof 15# fclt Ice & ,•rotcr Shiekl. Dcp Edge \"mt,, 11,shing & Shins)« T..,, uupccw"u
required; Opcn/P,-ogn:,~ & Fina.I Roofs 1.u1dcr 4/l::? pitch~ N--o l:i.}""D J .;#- rcqw..ttd. RooB unek'r ~/J2parch,
~lcmbmne required. R905.2. 7 Stnp & Rcs.Jungic- accordi..ng to contuct. TwQ inspecuo,n rcx1uired: Open/Progre:.i
IUld Fi11~1
PBIS-10511
::.."11(11 TI\!BERl~E
Walker, Victo,:u
Sl5.ltl\1
$311.00
(17/19, 2ll18
\~'ork Description: Stop & Rellb111gle Rool 15# felt l~ & \\'uer Sludd. Dnp Ed~ \'ent ... llJ.shing & Slungfo:), Tuo tn~chon~
requin:d: Opeu/Progrc,s & Fi1MI, Rc.,o(~ uudt?r 4/l~pitch~ t-i.vo bycJ:'!i 15# R.'Cj_lurcd Roofs unckr::?/12pitch,
~kmbr,uu: required. R90.5.3.7
PB18-1651
A'lDRfl\"S.OTIS& US.'\
25870 r,()RE:,1 \"\Y
S11,00ll
SH-1.00
IU/23/'.?IH8
Work Description: }louse with att,K'..lit:d giir.1.g-e
Stnp & Reshingle Roof IS# felt lee& Water Shield, Dop Edge,·,,,.,, fl.,hing& ~hinglc,. Two in,pecuons
reqUl.t«i: Open/Progre~ & Vin:i:1I. Roof~ under 4/12 ptti::h~ N'O byers 15# rcquitt<.l Roof-t unde.t 2/1:! pllch,
~lt.mht'.me required R.905.2 7
Stnp -.\: Rc-:;hingle according to
PBJ8-1%5
co11tr-.1t:.L
Two 1mcpccuon~ cequit:ctL Open/Pt1:>gtts -and Fuu,l
Sl,469
$'.?ll5.0I)
C.ROSS.GE:--1.:&Dl.\~'E
0l/16/2019
Work Dc,rcription: Rtpl.u:mg froot ent..ty dooc.
lnsull ·winclo'-\--s and or dour per cootr.tct Fcnei.tr:ition l,1ble,- inu,t ~ leftoo \\1ndo•o.:i/t. li.>0rs unul ~fo~r 6n.J
m.spection. Fm::il u,~ccnon rcqu1ced.
P619-032R
~flLESf..:IY, GEORGE A
$18,286
$-176.00
~·lllll BEECH RD
\Vork Desc ription: 7 Bruk Force pier" to be insulled.
Im,tall.ah(m of 7 Helical Pier, pct engineered 'f'«-"'- l1tSt.ill.1tors log re-qui.m i btfoce. fin.J. lt'bprction
03/l7/'.?lll9
M
de-t1ult.-CI
tr\
:,>ec.1fication~
CWSED 1:S:CO~!PLETE PROJECT. RW
PBl9-0-12l
COLE~L\.,. GREGORY.\ &
:?J'i:!tl CHF.RIMOOR
$4,835
$236.00
0-l/l8/10l9
Work Oe11crip,ion: P11rti11l $t0p and rc-.roof
Strip & R<.hinglc Ro<:>f 15# fell le, & Wotcr Shield. Drip Edge \'mis, A..shing & Sluugles Two m,poc:11<><1'
rcqui,ed Opcn/Progr,ss & Final Roof, undc, 4/12 pi1ch, two Lyers 15# tt<Jwed. Roof, undo, 2/11pitch,
\fembrane ""Jutted R905.:!.7
CLOSED l:S:CO\fl'LRTE PROJECr RW
PBl9--0S-19
$337.00
LE\'ClS, TYRONE
$10,00U
05/ 10/:?019
$1,634
06/l0/:?019
Work Dcscrrplion: Rmlo,·e and replcc bnck on 2 c ~ s ham roorhne up. ttpbc~ caps and slunglet
CLOSED 1:-.:co,1PLETE PROJECT.
PBl9-0763
\,TC"5-JO!l SON, L._1-:EISH 1-1789 SMlOSETTRL
$136.00
Work Ducripcion: I door
Install v,iodov.11 .utdordoor pcrcont.racr Ft.1.lesttatioo l:3.ble:t muM. l:>c' left on u'UKlou.-,/doors until af~r
rln.11
ui.spcctiou.. Fwsd i.n-,,cction rcqt1irffl.
CLOSED I:S:CO\!PLETE PROjECT. RW
PB19-0855
GOS.\. \\llLL'\.~I L
~-1655 SAMOSET TRL
S:?01.UO
$5,743
08/08/1019
$272.00
$I0.169
08/08/1019
Work Descrip«ion:
on windo~/doots unltl :tftcr tin.al m~pt-'Ction. Fllul LO!-pCClloo. cequittcl
CWSED 1.,cm1PLETE PROJECT R\\"
PB19-1}8,8
\,1Cf.:S.JOHNSON, LAf.:EISH 1-1789 SAMOSET TRI
Work Dctic ri ption: Rq,lxiog 5 u-mdou~ tn eb~11ng openin~
Inst.ill u'indov."S .md or docc ~r cont.mc-L Fenes1n1tion l:\ble;: mwt be left on \\,indov.-./doon until after fuul
1.nspcctJon. Rn.id tn,pectio.o required
CLOSED L'-CO~IPLETE PROJECl RW
P819-0885
TOMBEW.C.'\R.LO& BL<\C '.!.3415O.\KGLEN DR
$10.2'.JO
$27300
06/~/:?0 I 9
Work De1tc riprion.: Tear off 11ud caoofhoU5C & attached g:,r..igc~t,ip & R«hingl, Roof 1.5# felt lee & Wai« Shield. Dop Edge Venl>, A.1,hing & Sbmgles. T"" inspecuons
tt-qt.nred: Open/Progcc~& Final RQOf> under 4/12 p1,ch, tv."O L.yer.s 15# rcqui-re<l. Roofs under 2/12pitch,
~1cmbrane ~uit«l R903.2 7 Stnp & R.c5hiogle •ccotding to contnct. Tv.-n 1rtspecuoru requ,.rcd: Open/Progress
and Fm.,!.
CLOSl!D 1:-.:cm!PLETE PROJECT. RW
PB'.!0-0008
RUQ;ER, GJ:OREIA
2:!955 \\JU:Xf-ORD
$.1.389.00
$~'<lJlOO
01/13/2.l))
$310.00
$12,717
05/18/2010
$),M-1.00
$'.?1)6,(00
07 /28/3)?1.I
Work Dcsctiption:: Intenor 6re R.estorabon and tep.ur
PB:?0-0-167
\'v1CKS-JOHNSON.L.'\KEJSH 2-178'1 SA\!()SETTRL
Work D .. «ip<ion: RepLcing 8 windo ..,
CLOSED l:S:CO\IPLETE PROJECI". RW
PB'.?ll-0751
JO:--.T.S. SH,\J-.JR.'\
\Vork OcscriptJon: conslruct cu:Df>S per p1!!.
~
g
Total Permits For Type: 176
,
38
Total Fees For Type: $110,559.04
Total Const. Value For Type: $4,770,808.49
Report Summary
Grand Total Fees: $110,559.04
Popub11on; AU R,co,d;
P.:rn:ul PemtitTyp,,
#
8~
Grand Total Permits: 176
AND
Penni! Datcluucd Ilot\\ cen
1/1/201712:0000AMAND
2/25/2022 I l 59 59 PM AND
Prop,tty Pnr.:elNuml>L-r Conllllns
76--14-30
Grand Total Const. Value: $4,770,808.49
$1,647,9..JS
�Section 31 - Building Permits
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Permit #
PBl9-13l8
02/ 25/ 2017-2022
j obAddrC88
Contractor
Fee Tol-'ll
SIG,\ L\N, DO~ALD / DOR.EE 267:lll SHlA\~' \SSEE RD
Con aL Va lu e
O.u c IH ue d
$21(,1),()0
$91),llU)
11/ 25/ :?IJI ')
$68,335.(l()
$5,82'l,745
05/ ll/2021
Work Desc-rip1io n: Addmg a g-olragt' and addition to re.tr of home. SHELL O>.L Y
PB~! 794
c,n· OF DETROIT
\'('o rk Oc:sc ,-ipt iorn Con,,1ruct a ae\\ 1(1,~~ sq. fl. pump hou,c, 2 teM:rvior
dcmoh-:sh 3 old ~"Atet «sen.iors.
1'821-1 182
~KXlRE. !J,JML\ALAHI-:
t;1nk5
al 3...'',4-17 !(} ft. each ~n<l :iftec ne,-; f.&c::iliuc, :uc huilt
22450R!VERD.-\LE
$923.0()
Sll,-1-15
08/ 12/ :ll2I
$62200
$16,500
08/ 17/3)21
Wo rk D c1Jcript ion.: H.wd.tClifl b.1.1ht00m remodeling
PB2 1-!::!69
E LROBERSON PROPERTIE 2 1351 ~EGAIJNEE
\Vork Descriptio n: Rep11ir Ooor lx-run,s .ind Ooot jo1:!I crnwl :,pace. New sheathing :ind floor CO\"C~ring
PB21-l803
21872 SE~UNOLE
S:?39.00
$8,100
10/25/ 2021
H.\RRIS, R.\QL'ELLE & BE:-- 21220 SE\ILNOU:
S:?30.CJO
$6.0:Kl
11/01/:ll!I
$1,39.00
$17.~Xl
12/ 27/:IJ.121
\'l'R.IGHT. 11-IERES.\ \1
Work Descriptio n.: N'ew roof
1'821-1822
\Vork Description; Roof Rcp.Ur/Rcpli.ct1neni
PB21-3:l5!
~72 POLNCL\N.\
DRAJ.J:, T.\KEIT.\
\Vo rk D « c.riptio n: Remo\''C· mterior u-:1ll
10
the garage. Complete addttioual b:ithroom and bedroom. l "pcbte clcctncal :tiKl plwnbiug tn
area-' H''.\C to tttruin lflhl.Cl. Ltl:,or only ne"· floon.ng. innd.1tio11 1 dl)"'l,'lll.1 tnte.cior tom and paint U'I. new area. Th.i.s
job \\j5 fri:uned pre\'iously An<l plumbing wnt don~ ;il,o
Pll21 -2053
D'.\:--.GELO.~flCH.\EL&C.\ 22411 \IAPLEWOODDR
$9:!4.00
$36,000
l2/ 02/ :ll2I
$Z?.l.OO
$5,590
I 2/06/;al2I
$417.()()
$16,56()
01/31/~
$186.00
$1,500
01/ l).l/:all7
\~ork D escriptio n: B:athroom renov ;1. tinn, see- 111ttJChcd c:ontrnct fordt"l:\il:i
PB2l-2069
HARTOM,JEfFRCY & .\LUS 22147 SE:l!INOLE
Wo rk Descriptio n: Roof ttpbcemen l
PB:!:-0 120
C.\RDO:-SA-~!ORALES, MAR' 26670 EM:IIETT
Wo rk Dcscrip<ion: 120 Fl' 1:-S'TERIOR WATERPROOANG
PB16-l 586
L'I COB:\.'c, GHEORGI IE
207601~Dl,\N
Work Dcscrip<ion: d<ck/doorn·.JL Construct a woocko deck per appro,-w plan,. roobng_. lot<,,al tc5lr11u11 ,upport & 6oa1 in,pcction
~tu..ccc:1- Insull u.1U'idows uod or door per contrucL Fenestration I. ble, must be left on WU,dow,/ dooo until after
fuul U\!!pe('.tiou. FinAl in,pection required
PB l7-0IJ.17
SOLTHFIELDNEIGHBORI I 20766 V/\N BL'RE:--.'
$373.00
$10,100
0! / 2.•/3ll7
Wo rk Dcseriptio n:: Detnohtion of :0766 \ •ru1 Buren. Sewet cap. fouocb.tion remo'\"al, hKkfill in3P«tioni req,ured pno.r 10 fU"UI gmdmg
of ,110. Sod / seed & mulch ''"l'orod for final uupcciton.
•
PBH--0219
EK\~!\Y.\K\, SAXD.\\L\Ll 27105SHJ.\\"t"ASSf.ERD
Wo,k Oescrir,cio n:
$340.00
$2,000
03/ C'f) / 'JJJ17
[11tcrior ~mu of pnrty stotclnt'C":Clor DcmoLuon of :,..;oN loJd bc.&rlug walls. p~rtlOns, gnd ceiling and/ or other noo
~tntetural llcrus. Requited emergency and csil lighting mu!'lt Ix 1:n~int.tined. S\Jpport of Cdw,gjoi.,U. bearing wall, or
01hcr lond bennng compon11nts mu,t be supported. Fuul lnspecuon ~qUU'eJ. No occup.tncy 11 allowed E.kctncal and
Plumbing pc.rmu tftii.uir«l for temun.ition:9. Sq>ernte pennit rC'C.llUrt:d foe tt'n;;tnt bllald out.
PBl7-0230
SOL,HAELD
Work Description:
PBl7--0239
EIGHBORI I 21110V.\NBL"RE.'c
$589.00
$28,00)
03/ 21/3> 17
$1,279.00
$74,000
03/16/ 3)17
J..,N
CIT\"OFSOl'TI IAELD
20816 DEL!\\HRE
Work Ocsc,ipcion: ~RI mteno.c and exterior ttnO\ .tboru as detailed on bid tpec Wei. ~talt' Pluinbing, ELectrical md Mec.:h.utical
pentllU :uld U\Sp«:tton, 11!<.jui.ted. Progress (wluch may include (0011ng.frn.nung.Uuul.ltion etc.)And Firutl 111~n.s
=i,u.red. Clcca1col Pmnit Roquned.
Stop & ReWngk- acc.orchng to cont.t-..ct. Two insp«"lloni ccqutred. Open/ Progtt!lll a.ad Fi.ruilStop & RcWngle Roof
15# (cit Ice& Wate,Shi•ld, Dcip EJS" """'"· ~laslung&Sbingle . T"'D UL-p<Cbo<U n.-quiroo; Op•n/ P~,&
Fuul. Roof, undtt4/ 12pnch, tv,·o l•y«s 15# r<qui«d. RooC. Wld« 2/ 12p1tch.. ~kmbranc requu,:d.
RCX)5.2.71n!ltall u1indo'\\·s :J.O<l o.r door pcr conuact. Fcncstrillion lnble:! mu,t be- left on wiudo\\.,/ door- until 'lfte:r 6nJl
inspection. Fin.al i11spection required 704.21. I Single or mldri-!!l:ttwn <moke llbmu 11~ ceqw.m::l in e\~ery ~lroom
o.od ballw11y in che viarucy of the bcdtoo1ns ;1.nd c,~r') floor le¥el UlduJing hMemt-nt. C/0 detector n!'qtJi.ttd tn the,iciuity of the bedroom
PBl7-0292
H ·\CKETT, RO:--.ALD & MAR 22419 \L\PLEWOOD DR
$571.l)l)
$23,900
03/ 23/ 3)17
$226.()(/
$8,897
04/l).l/ :IJ.ll7
\Vo rk Descriptio n: 15 x 16 Pc,gola IU\d 21 x :?I ~t.at[>«I concrete sbb
PBl7--03¾
\UCKI..IFFC, DE£DRJ_-\ GIL( 21130 SE \ IINOLC
Wo rk Descriptio n: Strip 1ul<l re-roof hou!oe only.
S1.0p & Rcshin~~ acC<>rding to co.nluct T\\-o aru,pecUOM required Open/ Progrn, and Fuul
Stap& Re,hinglc Roof 15# fdt kc& \YatcrShiokl,Dnp Edg,, \ 'onl', A.1.Jung& hingk,. Two m,p<CDOru
neqUU'«I, Opcn/ P..c,gn:., & Fu"'1. Roof,, unded / 12 p11ch, '""'
15# rcqum:d. Roof, under 2/12 p1tch.
.\1t'lnbrArte r:equue.J.. R905.2.7
I,)""
PBH-0595
"'OLVE.Rl~E. TR..\CTOR& E 25900 'Ir 8 MILE RD
$310.00
$7,900
05/ 05/ :all7
\Vo rk Description: ln!h\U.1uon o( OC"W conc.r"Cte dumpster t'nclo,u~ 1;1mh \\.'OO<bidt {g3t6 oo 'lltet>I po:,t) f-oollng. rough(ma$0nty) and
fin.tlUl..<pC\.'.hOn:s reqw.red
$185.(l()
$6,3.16
05/l0/2017
Work Oc&criptio n: Stop & Re,-roofbouse onl~·
Stnp & R.,hingle Roof JS# fell Ice & W,ter Shield, Dnp l:,lg, \'mts, FL.,l11ng & Slu,1gle~ Two m,p<cnon,
teq\llred Opn1/Progress & Final Roof, tu1de-r 4/ J~ pitch, 1wu laycc, l5# rcqllll'td. Roofs under "!./ L2pirch.
~Jcrnhnnc "-"l"ucd. R905.:l7
•
Stnp & Reshu-igk occotdu,g to conlrlCI Two msp«11on, n.-quir«l Open/ Progren ::tnd Final
1'817-0627
O"E :-:S, LOUISE D
21816 :--EG.\LIN BE
$:!98.00
$13,6()1)
05/ !5/ :lll 17
Work D cscri·pc ion: Stctp & re-roof bou,t' onl)·
Stap & R.,hinglc Roof 15# felt Ice & W•t«Shiekl, Dnp Edge \ 'cnu, Fh,hiug& :;lungk,. Two inspccuons
"'<t"'',<l; Ope,1 / Progn-,s & Firm! Roofs undor-1/ 12 pitch., tu·o W)""' 15# rt'<jUlre<l. RooC.vndcr2/ l~pitch.
~rembnno "'<]uire<l. R905.2.7
S1cip & Re.shingle ACcordmg to contrat.:t. Tu.-o in.-,,ection:. reqw..red: Opt.n/ Progress and Fm.ti.
PBJ7-06'.!9
8l'CCILLI. KAR.EN
Wo rk Descript ion:
21823 SDUNOLE
$172.00
$5,500
05/ ll / :all7
�r
.. tnp & Rr•lungie Roof 1;,# felt k~ • Watc:r Sludd, Dnp E<l ;~ \ ·ents, FLuhing & Nunglc .. Tv.v uupect1am!I
rr-cr,u:mi Opcn/Ptogrc~.. & F-iml. Roof., lttKIC"r 4/1:! p1h:h, two by~f!' l~# rcqw.rcd.. Rl,of, undtr~fl~pstch.
\ftmhr.lf'lt" tcqlu.rcd R',tl;.:!.7
Stnp & Rc,hing4e lh:conl.mg tu contr.1c1 h1.-o u1~ uom n.:qwrrti Open/ Prngre,- :'lnd ruul
$,<1,!U<l
\Vork D
16/:?Sl'.11117
cripcion: ,,-mc.1ou· tq,hl.'.ement, guucrc. stdutg and re-roof
S.tnp & Rr,hmglc Roof I :=t# felt le, & \\'.1tc:r :h.Jdd, Dnp Ldgt \ mt~ 11.ulun_i; & Shim,Ju. T""·o u1-,,cct101u
rcquucd: Ofxn/Progi~s & hrul
Roof.,, under 4/1:! p1h.:h, tu·o l.tycn 15# ~um:J. Roof°' ,u1dc:r 2/1:? pitch, Monbruu: te\JWtt~l. R916.27Stap &
Rea:&lungk ..cco~ng to 1.:unlr.u:L Tv.o tn~<:hon• reqmrr<l Open/Prugre..,~ U1d Fuul
ln."ta.U v.,udow" JUl<l or Joor per cont:nct. f-coc,.,tr.ui<.>11 Lblt>s mu~t he k·ft on v,.,ndou, /doon ,u1ul 111Jtcr fin:.1t
mspc-ction. Final t11-.pecho11 rcquucd.
PBl7-077ll
$17200
Rl'SII, ll-\CllELE
\Vork Ocs-cription: Stnp ;and tt-roof hou~
.. tnp & R.r111lu.ngk Roof 1.;#; fdt kc & \Yat~r SluekJ, Onp F<lge: V~nb. Fl.1:,hmg& .. lungks. T\\o Ul"!!'JX"Ch<m,
ttquin..J. Opcn/PtogR:SS & FUUL Roof.. under 4 f12 pit...:h. N·o l.a-..~rs J5# ttquu,e.J. R.i.K>f"!I undt't 2/ 1: p11ch,
\femhr;u1' requucd R'}()i:?.7
\Vork Dcscripcion: Cororlc:tt' 1cu off llJld re-roof of hou,c- o.nly
Stnp& R.ewngk Roof l,tt foh k• & \\'>t,r$1udd, Drip Edge \,nt>, H..Juog&Slunglo. T.. , "''P<'-"'""
"''l'u=I Op<n/Pmg,e.. & ruut Roof, undo,411:pucl,, !WO by•u 1511 rcquU<d. R.ooi,und<, :11:pudt,
\lt'nlhnnt' rcquu~d. R~l5.~7
Siq, & R.•hingk «·cordut~ k> con1nc1. Tt>'O
PB17-Wl8
T\R\'ER. T.\."-ISII \
'"'!''''"'°"
requittd. Opcn/P,ogn,
:?1131 \'.\~ Bl;R.E.'\'
ond fuuL
$6,W
SISiOO
07/IH'.)Jl7
ork De><:ripcion: ~top& l\c,lungl, Roof 15# felt Ice & \ht«Shi•ld. Dap Edge \',n1,. fls,lung& Slung!,:- T,o m,p<ction•
ffl!Uln,,LOpm/Pmg,. &fiml R.oof,undtt4/l:?p1tc:b,twul.y•r., ISi< n,quitt..l Roofsundor2/12p,i.;h.
\l<mbn,w ..q...,«l R9Ui2.7 Stnp & Ralungk 11<cordutg 10 contrJCI T ..-., irupe<uo,t1 n,quind Op<nlP,ogrHt
and Fuul
PBl7-111IJ
ROBERTS. Ll'lO.\ M \lllE
S:?,1~3
21319 :SEG.\USEE
08/01/:lll7
Work Ocwcripcion: lruwl::; \'lrlJ1 repbce-ment ""indoq,
Jn wJ ,-in,h""-, a11d or door per contncl fnx!lttrahOn ubk.~ must be- kft on windo•-,/doon w,bl •ftn- funl
.uupcction. Fiu:J in~bOn r:cqtnrtd.
$6.700
$191.0:)
2:!:!15 ROUGE\fONT DR
07/'!A/'JJJl7
Work OclJCTipt:ion: Stnp ,100 re-roof bou~ only
tnp & Rulungk Roof I 5# felt Ice & Wat« Sludd, Dap E<Js, \-cru,_ H,,hing & Sluogl... T,o Ul'P'"""'"
~ Op<n/Progrns & Fin,l Root under 4/ 12 pudt, ""'O t.,-.rs I;# «quireJ. Roof, wide, :?/1:? pitch.
\lcmlmnc ""luired R91)5:.7
Stnp & Re,hingk occo«ling 10 conlOICl. T"-o ut,pecuon, requmd. Opcn/P.._.. and FIMl
PB17-l:!:!6
PELEG. S.\\fl'EL
21121 SE;\tL--.OLC
Work Oe1iicrrpuon: ttquitt<l
PB17-1374
JS,'
LATORRE, \1TO
21007 POJNCI \
'1 ~
_g •
.\
•
·
~
W
$6,850
$194!0
09/05/3)17
5tnp &. Rt.runglc
Roof 15# fd1 Ice & Wa~rShi<IJ. Dap Edg< \'cut,, H,shing& Shingk,._ T,-o in,pccnons
'"qu,tt<l Upcn/Progrno & Final Roof, undc,4/12 puch. ''"' lai-.rs 1511 r,quuw. Roof, und<,:?/1:?pudt,
\Ian!,....... f«l'"nd. R?05.:?.7
~trip & R,,lungk «corduig to cnntr,c:L T "'" 1n,pect10n> n,quir<d. Opcn/Progn,» md f,n.,J
PE\17-1533
DICl(,CL)TIF.&STM:E:Y
11770 \UPI.EWOODDR
\l'ork Description: J~t.all repl.M:~wnt doonull m
S:?.500
S189.Clll
!0/0-1/2017
SLX1toom
ln tall ordoorpc-rcontract. Fmr,ttarionlabks llllt5l be: kft on door until •f1tr fuwin!l()«bon.. f'uul uup«bOn
ttqum,d.
PB17-1557
WITMER. PHJUP & PA\fl'.L.A 21716 SE\U~OLC
$323.00
Work Dc.cripc.ion: ~1no\·r old Alummum 5<lmg/guttcn• uu1:11l or• on ho~ anJ giauge
lmt:ill:u.x>n
PBl7-174l
,.dmg. tam & a!umaoum tnm /
BE;\"\UU.FR.Ll:i_HI
gut~r,
rc-r contracl
2W51 W9 MJLE RD
hruJ uupcctioo
Slz:!.tO
requua:1.
S:?,-1()3
I l/OJ/3Jl7
Work Dcacription: lmt.allthOal of 120 Ln ftoi quttC""rt 11nd 120 l.,1 fi of do"-n"r">U~~ contr.acl Fm;al tnspccuon ttquueJ
PB17-17M
PRE..,<o1TO, PIIIIJP I
21ct>'> '..;EGAIJNEE
$2,7fxl
II/IJ!l/21117
Work Dnc:Tiption: Stnp and re--roofbouK only
Stnp & Rcshit,g!< Roof 15# felt le< & w,,.. Slu.td, Drip F.dge Vont,, n, hing & ShingJ, .. T ..'O uup<CUOru
ttquit:Nl· Open/Progtt~ & l·m2I Roof, oockr 4/12 ptrd,. l"\1."0 L.~~n 15# ~ui.rrc.l. Roof1' under 2/1 :! pitch.
\fcmbr.).ne n.-qua-cd.
R9U5.2 7 Stop & k'>hinglc .-:cordmg to contr.t-.:L T v.'Q U.up«llOns ~quucd Open/Prog.ttff J.nd Fina.I
PB17-1817
\IORG.\S OONAI..D ....,net
~; \L~PLC\H)OD DR
$331.()'I
s1;,77;
ll/16/21ll7
Work Dc11cription: T c-u off~ r:c•roof hoUS-C and g:-nagc
""!""'"""'
Stnp & Rc,hutgk Roof IS# l<lt I« & \\',r,r Sludd. Dap ulg,, \',ni., !1..,hu1g& Slung!.- ,-.,.,
n:quued: Opcn/Progtt~ & hrwl RtJl'l('j undcr4/12 pitch. tv.o L~"Cl'!t 15# r~uittc.l Roof, undt:r 2/l~pitch .
.\lemlmnc rcqwred. R905.2.7
Stq, & Re:mlngk :w:cording lo contract. 'l wo uupecuons rot=quued {~n/Pro~1• 7-.nd Fi.rut
PBl7-t88:
RF.,ro_ U.C
Z2!>3i :-.-EG.\llSEE
$21:!IO
$8,000
1 l/:8/3ll7
Work Duc.ription: ~c• •hlngle, on roof
Stop & Rc,hingl• oo;o«ling to COrlln>CI. T-.-,, uup,coon r,qu,n:d Opcn/P,opu and fui.J. Slap & Rcslungk
R<>0f 1511 felt Ice & \~._,., Slucl,l. Dap Edg, \"ott,, n,-hiug & 9ungk-< T,·o irupccuon, rcqw=l Op,n/Progn,-,
& hruJ. Roof,..td,,4/12p>tch. "'" l,,yor< 1511 "'!utr<d Roofs undtt :?/12p1kb, \fffli>rane «qw,,J. R905.27
1'817-18&4
11.•,U 11,Df.\\.\'lf.
Work Dcscrip1ion:
~11731'-.DL\'l
$2t,3.00
$11,1'}()
12/15/21,17
�Inswll ,c.1ua.tt flu1cd colum1u lo front porch
Stnp &. R~s.hingle Roof 15# felt Ice&.\\.ucr Shic-ld, Dcp Edg,t" \~cote, A:i.,Jung & Shi11gle-.. Two ii,~cUons
f\:qUl«d.: Opcn/Progr'(-"s:; & Fm.ii. Roofs t.mder 4/ l2 p11..:h, two 1.i.ye~ 15# r«iuif'N Rvof! under 2/ l 2. pitch,
\lcmbr.me requited. R903 2. 7
Stnt> &
PBl7-1902
Rcshinglc 2ccotcllng to c011trJCL
Two tn!l()ectwns ~uirect Open/Progress ind F1r1.J.
$7,750
FREE.1L'\N, D.\vlD& Sl"S.\.'- :u.851 E.M\IEIT
12/01/2017
Work DcKcription: losuU.11t10n of 86 feet of U\te:rior std> ,oi) dr.1.10 sy,tem per con1mc1.. rough .md foul iru,pttt'KJnd required $eper:11t
Plumbing pennll and b1...-,,cc-tio11c
. required..
PB13-0001
an·orsot71-lnELD
\Vork Oe8CTiption:
$76,IJ<XJ
Sl.30?.00
01/09/2018
J fobtu.t for f Ju.rrumity: Rem0<ld Kitchc,1 Baduoom, Roof. inteno.r tcp:\11"!' per contrilCt and U11ul.Jrio11. Inst.ill
m~ulJtiou. per 0011tr.-cl fin.:t.l msr«rion ru1d c.."crtificJt~ required. ID:1L'lllation of ,in)1 n<lil'lg. tnru & 2lumil.1u:an tnm /
gull«> pe, contnu:L foul in,pection ,eqwred.Stnp & R ..hingk Roof IS# felt I~ & Wat« Shidel, Drip E.dg, \'eni,,
Fla.ohing & Shingle,. Two in<p<etio,u ,equiw& Open/Progress & final. Roof, und,,r 4/12 pi1ch. 1,,,0 l.1y=i 15#
reqw..red. Roofs under 2/ 12 pitch.. ~fembl'lllrx- reqw.red.. R905.2 7. Ubt.ill ,nndows and or door per contr.tcL
Feuc!llratwn l:ible1 must be left on windows/dooo until sifter fin:J 1Jl5Pection. Fin.ti 1n.spcction requmed
1.0 , t,; BOX #21'191
P818-(l053
$471,+13
26/JOO \\' 8 /.ULE RD
l.:ATZ BAKERY LLC
01/19/3)18
\Vork Ocscription: Fi.cc d.-um~ rc.l~1ed re,torittwn per the i\lichtgru, Reh.ibilitation .-\ct "-' ,pecifit..-d in the i1twch«l Hugon GC Scr\11.:es
~unutc. Rougb, tnsubtion. or,en ceiling and firu1I in~tion-. ttquued.
PBlll-0129
22;7Cl ROL'.GEMO>.T. SFID l :l2370 RQllGE\IONT DR
$5,985
$21'.15.00
C1/13/c!>l8
Work Oc.sc-ri.p,ion: loterior b11!oement \\."ttterpto0fing. Ul~t:tlhng 15' o( .,f' SD Plf>C to di1eh..a.rge: to the creek 'ii &om the- ho~c
Insu.llJ.hon of 15 liet of infe-riot ,ub !loil dn1in system per contr.,c&. rough ,:md fin.JI inspecnond requi..rftd.. Sep,er.ne
Plu.mbang pemut P-nd insp«uons ttqtured.
PB 18-0336
lMS.\l.\jL\'>:, g!\JU & LIZ:\
flC'U
UJ,980
SJl)400
20774 \Bl.:£00'-=
Work Oc&crip1ion: Tear off tt~roof hol.15e & gauge. ln•utll
04/04/2018
gutttn /Inst.i.l1 sadmg on house
Stnp & Re.hmgle >=>idmg to conl.r.ct.
~"P"''""'"
T.,.o
requi«d: Open/Prog=, and Fu,al. Stop & Reshonglc Roof 15# fdt Ice & \t·aro, Shi<kl. Dop Edge
Yenlil, FL.,sJw1g & 5bingles. T,:o insp«oon~ rrqui® ~.n/Pcogres~ & FinaJ. Roof.J under 4/12. pircb~ tv•o Uyt:n
13# ttqtun,d. Roof, under 2/12pitch, Memb,ane ,equm:d R905.27
tn,-ulbtion of "~1nyl titltng. tom & alununum trun / gutti.-n per contnc:L FU'W 1nspc-.:tiot1 requi.icd.
PB18-0.J62
P.oc.,o., M.uy Lynn
W'orkOc1cripcion: te.,roffand
21591 POJNCIANa-\
$2,727
$128.00
03/23/3)18
re-«x>fgJr.agi:-
Stnp& R.,hingl< Roof 15# r.lt lee& W,tuSbiekl,Dnp Edge \",n,.., Fwlnng&Slungk, T~u tn,p<cnon,
rcquittd: Open/Progress & Finol Roof, undtt 4/ 12 push,
l•ym 13# «<JUU'Od Roof, under 2/12 pirc;b,
~\Iembr.inc ttquircd, R905.~.7 Strip & Rcshi.nglc .iccordang lo co11t.racL Tv.--o irupection~ n-quircd: Opt-11/ProgttU
ond Fuul.
.,.'O
PBll\-0366
SOL71-IFIELD NEIGHBORH
nm l'OINCI.-.NA
$78,500
$1,588.00
04/05/21118
Work Oc:scri:ption: Rq,W' ~~ isidmg, g.magt roof~ ll'lru & door, Ul5tall d1~bwJ.Sher, new 5Ump puo\b,
Jru-t.1U.uon of ,,nrl swing.
tnm & ahmunum rrim /gutter.per con!DCL Fi,,oi in,pccoon requi«:d Strip & Re.bingle Roof 13# fel• Ice & Wo~
!>bi<kl Drip Edge \·em,, Fb•hmg & Shmgte._ Tv.v in•pcc6ons ttq,=:d: Open/Prog=, & Fin:tl. Roof., uodcr 4/12
p1tc;b, NO \ayo,s 13# "-'q\U«-d Roof,unck, 2/12 pitch, ,\!,ml,,,.,,. '"'!utr«I. R9052.7
PB18-0396
•
26000 \~' 8 MILE RD
K.\TZ B.\KE.RY LLC
$163.:?+I
$3.::57.00
04/~/2018
Work Dctcripcion:
~-n;c.e, utinutc and 1"i~ci11tc:s coginect'f ttp<>rt and dl:lgram. Brick 0.i'lhu:t~ grout. rough, open cetbng and fuul
m,pec:uoru rt"quirt.-d
PBIS--0451
JEF!'ERSO'>:, LACIL>\.RMl'>:E 22315 BEECH RD
PBIS--0-1(-4
SOL7HFlEID NEIGHBORH 23!37 POINCIANA
$1.903.00
$98,700
05/01/2018
$193.00
f3,:?31l
05/03/21.llR
\'<'ork O«criprion: .lu-mlcno2' W11teiproofing,-fhbit:t.1 for Hunuruay
LuwLtion of 130 feet ofirtt.eaor sub io0il J.r.un ~ystemper cont:raci. r.ougb itnd final in~tio1"'1 r:equued. ~ l e
Plumbmg permit and inspc,cooru '"'lutred.
1'818-0490
JACQCES,JO!lN & DEBR..\
27347 SHIAW:\SSEE RD
PBlS--0570
$36:!.(10
:l2370 ROl1GE.\IONT DR
L\TES-SMIIB, KIMBERL\'
$'.!Jl,316
$695.00
WorkDcscTiption: Tt'a.rdov.11e-Wung 10 xl8 u"OOd rooru 11nd repbce ""ii.ht~ 12 x 18 sun roos.non
sand :u,d fin.I mspcc bono n,qur.-ed.
QC'1,;
05/01/2018
footlng'5 anJsW>. footing.
$17,8(,5
05/03/2018
Wo,k O«crip<ion: Stnp & Rtsbingle Roof 15# fdt Ice & \'rate, !>ru<ld, Dop Edge \'au,, fu,hlng& Slunglcs Two trupccbon>
"''l'w;at Opcn/P,ogn:,. & ron.t Roof, ,u,d« 4/13 prrc;b, n,.-., la;'<n I'># rcqw.d. Ro,,f,under3/12pitcb.
~lembrane '"'luittd R905.2.7
PBIS-0580
R.\MAN, P.URJCI.\ D.\,1S
$23.i00
26612 E..~l\lE1i
Work Dc,c:ripcion, lrurrall (1) V'anyl a,plaament '"ln<lowo
Install "'indo,.., and or door per contract. Fct\C5t.rah0u bblcs mll:!il be
,n,pcction. F'm.J in.,pection tt'l"'rcd
PBl8-058!
k-ft on windo,,.-s/doots unbl .af1er fu.1:11
1-L\RRJS. KEITI! &J.KKSO>. 21685 ROUGE\HX)D DR
Si.;!.W
05/15/3118
$23,356
<)5/17/::018
Work Description; hutall (2) '1.n)'l r:q,lact:mcnt '1---indou.-,
PBIS-0<,31
DlXO'J. OON.\LD & Rl11H
22130 ROL•GE.\10 IT DR
$474.00
Wo,k Oc,c,iption: Srnp & Remmgle Roof 15# felt la, & \~•.,., 5hickl. Dop Edge \ "ent,. fb,lung & Shingle._ Two uupeeuon,
rcciuued Opcn/Prog,c,. & Fin.ii. Roo& under4/12 pitch,"'" I•)= 15# ,equm:d Roof, under2/12pitcb.
~!embrane ffljUlt& R903.2.7
PBll\.()1>37
~L\YS, nllE.E L'SHER
20782. ·EG.\UNEE
$216.00
$8.256
05/17/~18
Wo,k Oescr<pcion: Stnp & Rcshoogl• Roof 15# ielt la, & \Vatc, Shi<ld, Dop Edgt, \'rob, Aaslung & .hingks. T,--., uupccn<>ns
ttqUtttd:Opcn/Progtt.s & Fm,l. Roots unde,4/12 pitc;b, ,.,.o l•yers 13# "'luired Roof, unJ.t 2/12p,tcll,
)lembnne reqru=L R905.2 7
l'Bl!\-0649
•
E'>:GLISll,Al.E.X.\NDER &
~
21416 L'\i,.STER RD
$125.('()
Work Dc.ac.ripcioo: Concrete ii.th 8 l' 10 ft ,nth rat w.Jl v.-ith :shed on top.
Zosung compliance peunit lo tnSUll
Ulcpcction .required.
PB18-068'i
,1.
shed on 11 concrete sLb 11:nd
\lCCLEl.L\.'s, 11-1O\IAS &JC 26.'IOO SHI.\Wi\SSEE RD
e1tw~
per approYed plan!i &.nd and final
$334.00
$16,001
0:\/18/clll8
Work Dcacription:. Rcano,·c ubn.ng a.l<l uutlllu., new roof fflu.lgl<:-..Stnp & Re.shmgle ~rch11g to contr.1eL T,-o u1~ru tt<Ju:i~dOpen/Progn,,s and Fn,al Stnp & R.shiugle Roof 13# felt lee & \~',tc, SbielJ, Dop Edgt, \"cuu, fl»h.ing&
Shu,gk.. T"'-o irupectioru, ieqwred Open/Progre.. & Futru. Roof, undor4/12pctch. two byen 15# ,<quin:d.
Roof~undcrZ/12pttch . \fembra~ rcqUUffl.. R905.2.7
PBl8-0o99
:\LOSS, '\LBERTB&LORETI 2J066V.'l..1' Bl"RE.,
Work Dc.scriptioo:
$3:?l.00
S,i,!188
06/11/~18
�'\dJcndwn #l _\dJmg67 fl of lntenor.,,,.,.ttrproofing ro c1.1,ibJ\g applie pcntUt.
$151.1,n
Plll~(F57
\TI-HTC. PI-JYWS
$16i00
SJ,IA4
06/ 05 / :)1J8
$173.0.1
$4,0IW)
06/27/21)18
Work Dc-1cripcion: ln~ull I Joor \\.all
P818--0"'>7
PORC!ll:\.Plll!J .IT'&JO\
:u,_;;:lfl\\\"\.SEf'RD
P818--08<,;
Bt"RREU .. ST\Rl.l:Tf
z73:;o .\RHOR\\' \\' # lft
Ln,t.U "t111.lo,-,.1nJ or door pc-rcontr.ct FftV',.lr.anon l.ihk~ mm,!~ ldt on '\\--iodo,u/ doon l11lul •fkr 6o:il
uupcc-tion, f·bl.J. Ul,-,«ftotl ttquu-cd.
$11100
$1.498
07/o:/2018
$'41.00
$1,,400
ll8/o:!/2111R
Wo rk 0c8Ct'ipc io n: S!.t!p n.ml re•roof g;tr.agc onlr
P818.()<}9i
SOl il-lFIElD NEIGHBOR! I 2:505 BEECH RD
Work DcJJcripcion: ~.)l(X'nu.al De1no--l l..b1t.at for Hwn.uul)
Ort:rnolllion of ~u.tre l(:cl buikhng. ::,,C..,.cr ap. f0l ■1dation mnonl. h-..:.lt.60 u,.,..er;r,om ~ua.rt"J pnor to 6n.J gr-.d.ng
of "'lte. Sod / "Ced & 1tU1.lch ttqt.u.n.-d fur tins! m~1ton Proleth\ l' fcnang Ju,quu-rd •round 111.: for~ dc..-mc:,Loon
P818--IOl9
KATZ BAKERY I.LC
:6(•)0 \\"
8 Mil.I, RD
$1.124.00
$i5JO)
U8/l3/))18
Work Dc.a.cri pc1on: Con.,1ruc1 a '47.5 ~fL ..-'.U.km cooler hx>rmg. 111..h. mnonry anJ 6n.1il m~hon, requarcd. ~t.J n~IJOn
ttport
r<qum,J lnr g,ouL
PBIS-l0-19
Eh..'\:-- \Y .>J-.......-\.,D.'1..\1.\LI
:mo; SIIIA\\
\S: FF. RD
$.iOJU)
117/ ll'l/ 3118
$6.750
117/13/)JIS
\\·ork Oacripc:H,n: ~c, ht.1tmg& coohng
~c-. Occtri<al
Son>< plwnbmg
Rq,1.,ccd.imagcJ<b),·all
::-.:... wop«iling
Pam1huaklang
Aoor pl.an oi o~ttng byout
Tc-runt Buildout
P81S-l07:
BCELL. IDA WR.\J:-..E RE\"
2l21lt .:-..F.G.\ll"-IEE
$19:!.(XJ
Work Dc.cnpc ion: TouoffmdRt--roo(
tnp&Rc.lun3'< aoco,du,g.,contnct Tv.-oin,pcctio,uffi!UlttdOpm l Progtt>S•nd I-in.I ."top& Relluni,,lc
R,,of 15# felt I« & War« Sh,dd. Dnp I'd_ Yen,., FL,lung & Srun
f.,o 111-roc1,on, ttqu,n,~ Open/P~
& foul Roof un,J.,,4 1!2ptu:h. ra-o laycro l'\# n,quottd R,,of, unckr Z/ l2puch. \(,mLune r,qulftd R90527
PBlll-1081
KI:180, \UUIAMA\;D GRE 2l<J'l5 WAKEOO~
$191.(XJ
$l,7R2
1)8/ 10/3118
$1.945
lll/07/3119
Wo rk Oc•c1'1ption:
in,pcctiun""Juitcd
P818--l I I I
B.\RRIITT, RICII.\R.D & ARU 21 l lO \"A' BCRIS
·w ork O«crircion: lmwl (31 nn) I replaumrn1 ,mdo"", IruLAll •1tnJowt •nJ or <Lor per c;.vnlr.lCL l·~tnbOn lablct mu~t ~ kft on
v.,ndo•·-'/ door, l.■lul 11f1<"r 6nsl Ul',:)l'Chl>n. f-uul uupec:oon ft."qUlttd
PB18--ll24
R'I..\( \!'<., P.\TRIO .\ 0.\\1S
2Ml2 E 1,rm
$125.00
ork Dc:tcription: lru-ool (I} ,'lllyl ~laconcnt v.-iodo...PBlll--l 161
$10,ll(>I
SOl 7llAELD NEIGHBORH 2114H,KS"ITR.RD
fl8/l3/21ll8
~ ·ork Oc•c:ripc io n: Residential ~Hmltal for Hum.anity
Demoboon of 1848 Squor< fttt building .s.,.., ap, tuw-.Loon reruo,,1. hadJill ,n,po,c11on «qu>«J rnor to fin.I
llC'.
,iced & rnukh rt-quueJ 1;.,r lin.J Ul.tp«lll ,n. Protnbv~ fenang ~Ulmi .. ,. ,unJ tlc: fnr .U
gndmg or
dcmolman
PB lll-11?7
S,"'' '
j.\\lES.STEl'lll:2' P JR
21706 1,DJA.'s;
$:37.00
~ 'ork Oeac.-iption: ~ - ' ...~
lm,t.dl •--in,J,.,.~ and or door per contDCt. Frnic:,.tution L.bb must~ kfton .-indo
/doo" lGlt.d .nn fir.ul
in,.«tio" Fwul 1n,xcoon r,qu,ttd.
J_..,,.
PBUI-- IZl7
Bn'-"'- Ronald&
PBl8--l::!IJ
.TEPH.'l..,.J \ CQl' EU, .
21
W.\Kl·: 00
~IAOOSl-ll:\\\".'-'· 1'£ RD
$9111.twl
$~f){l(1
08/ 09/21.JlS
Sll7.m
$9,108
03/ 13/ ))18
"-ork Dacn pc.t0n: gr.dmg o f sale Sod / x:i & 1nukh ~ for~ uupttllon.. Prr.,1eeu: Fencing~•~
,.:c for all
dcmol,non Dcmoliuonofbo.,.., only II ~,o ~•v..uo<c Ro"'1.
PBlll-1:31
\IERRI\I\, . SCOTT
$188.l lll
~6.5<1(J
08/ 1l / :?11l8
Worl.. De cripcion: Tc.u-off a.nJ Rc--Roo(
Stnp & Rt-wngk >ecordwg 10 oonlr.oel T• -o ""1"<"""' ""l'"red Op,n / P,ng,-o,. and f•i,l >tnp & R«lw,gk
R,,,,f ISi; fdt kc &Wat<r~i<ld, Dnp Ed,,,. \ "ent, F"t.>lung& Sh"'l!lcs- T=,rupocuoru "'luu.dOpen/ Progttsa
&Fanal Roof. UIXU'r4 f l:?ptch.nr.ol.a;·c"l5#ttq!Ared. Roofsui~r2/1:!r1le'h.\kmhrancrNf1Uttd. R9't5:? .7
PB!S-1146
T·l\"I, ST.'\R ASSET \IG\IT I.I 2l5GIJ POISCI.\NI\
$140.0ll
SJ.SOU
08/13 / 2018
\\ ork Oe,ocrircion, Stnp& Rc,lun~ Roof 1,# tdt I«& \,,,.,~ld.Dnp C..d \ ·en,. FL-lung&Slu1#>- lv.o m'(>tC!iom
n:quittd:Opni/Pro~& fU\lll Rll0hundcr4 / 12pt.tch.,~ol.1.~~n 1:.# ttq\Attd. Roof◄ undcrZ./t:?r1"-b.
:\tcml,,.,.. ttqUll'C>I! R905 :!. 7
PBIS-125 1
H\'E !>"T c\R .-\SSITT \IG\IT I.I 11,60 POI. 'Cl\~\
$225.Cll
$500
OR/14 12018
Work Oc.c ripcion: Re-build south '9,::Jl sr,
Rebuild poruon. or ,oulh rxtcrior •·'lll of d-..'t'Dm •nd one ntier Rough and f·UW m,p«.bons ttquittd..
\lust field urify utrnl of •••o.dr. dut to \united con,1rucnon <k'k:umc:nt,._
PB18--l:t,:
).\Ch.SO. 1-10\\'.\RD& PAil 221>66 Rl.)UGEWQOD DR
$149.0I)
$18,7
08/17/))1
\\'ork D«cnpc.ion: Tc:uoft .and rc•f')('lfb(,wrc .ind g ~.
Stt,p& Rt-,lungk Root I'\# fcltlo,&\\,1<,!\hidd. Dnp I.Jg. \"<nh. l·L-.hang&Slungln, T,u, m-rtth•>n,
r<qwr«l L'Jx,n / Progn-.. & Fuul Roof, und<·r 4/ I 2 p,._h, ,...., Ly,r, 1511 r«jwrc<l. Roof, under 2/ l ! p11ch.
\Icmhr~ rtqlllttd R1X.H.~ 7 Sl"I' & Rnhmgk .Kcordmg to C'OltlracL T,-0 11.up~dto!l~ ttql.ittd Open/ProgR"n
-1 foul .
PDlll-1:-'9
:\10. ".-\. P.'\L"l,
!71.ll4 ·rn .\W.",!; "l'E RD
56.793
08/ :11)/ J.118
�W'ork OCl>criprion: lnt.criot B.tscmcnt \X.":uerproofing lmtilling J:!11' of .f' S & D pipe 10 stonn ,1,ith ;a lr.1cku·.t1t:r Vil.h:c
ln!-t:tlbtion of Ultcnor ~uh -cioil drain $}'.'llCm per contract rough .u,d fin.ii 1nspcctw111, ttqwrcd. Sun1p purnp dlsc:h:irge
sh.ill be to lhe stoon dram ~bcu :w-atbble, or to 111 locJ.tio1t 1'ppro,-ed by the City of Southtkld'1 Cngtnttnng
Depntmcnt. Sept'tal'c Plumbmg penni1 11nd impt-ctionJ tt:qwrcd
•
PBIS-1387
ROBl~ETI"f, \X .-\LLACE
'.!1051 DE.LA\!: -I.RE
$123.00
$3.0U0
09/l4/2!JJ8
\Vork Oescripcio n: Zo1ung c:ompliJn<:e pcmul 10 ll15t;ill a shed ou ., <:onucte sW, .and ra~-:tll per Jppro\·cd pl.im. ~and ;Utd CinJ!
inspecuon rt'quircd.
PB18-I '>3<•
TERRY.JEN'>Y I 10\\ .-1.RD
:1205 '>EG \llNER
$-16700
$10.fM)O
11/07/3118
\Vork Descript ion: Correct a.nd ccprufw:ning. rubiccl to field UHpcction.. nC'W \·i:nyt cldlng, \\.indO'Q..._. and dry\\:;111
PB!8-!'>17
BRO\~1'.,FDWARD&TERI: ~ '.!1151 V>.."IBL"RE..',
$ 131.00
$1,l(•l
I0/22/3ll8
\Vurk Dcscrip1 ion: ln,1-.,U {I) vinyl rcphcie-mcnt u-1.nJQw
in~trul '\\-indo\\'!' and or door pet contrnct. Pcne~tr;1.tlQn 1.iblcs mU5t be left on u-indou~/doon ,u1hl ~fter fin-:i]
is1,pcc.Lion. Ftn.1.I mspccuon required
PB IR-1$93
SH.\11, l 'SH..\ & DEEP.\K
21036 W.\KE.00 ..
$170.CX)
$3.800
10/16/ 2018
w.,.,
Wo rk D c,c,ip<ion, Stnp & Rewngl< Roof 15# i<ll Ice &
Sb,cld. Drip Edg,: \ 'cnt>, R..slung & Shing!•, Two m,p<cnuns
requtt<d: Opon/Progn,,,& Fm.I. Roof, umk. -l/12 pitch. two byen 15# rcq"ittd. Roofsund<t '.!/12 pitch,
~l<mb<Jru, ""luu-cd· R905.:!.7
1'818-17-16
$150.()(J
l\(HOFF.CHR IS'Tl'>EE..
$4.16IJ
!0/31/3Jl8
W o rk OcM:Titnio n: Tc-u off old ~JUnglcs md rc,.roof
• tnp & R.slungk Roof I<;# felt lc:e & \V>ter 51ueld. Dnp Edge Y,nl>, fl;;Jung & Slung!<~ Two ut,p<cbol1<
""!Ult«l Op,n/Prog=s & Fuul. Roo& u,id<r 4/ 1~ pitch, two layer> 15# r«jU1ttd. Roof. 1ald<, ~/ 12 potch.
).femhraoc mi,u.ttd. R',105.:?. 7 Strip & Rc,hiug1c according to contr.tct Tv.o in~tion, ttquircd: ~u/Progrcss
and Fmal.
PB IR-1983
T.G. llomcs,LLC
21895 l'>DL\N
$158,W
$1.500
01/I0/2019
Wo rk De11criptioo: lnsulL11on of (6) Gll\ts bl,,ck "'indo•-s. l ~,th opnting
butitll v.-indo"-" 1md o r doorpercontcacL Fcnc,ctrabc.n bhlc:smusi be left on \\.1ndo1':s/doonc w,bl aftf:r lin...J
1mipccoon. Fin.J inspecuon ITqUin:d
PB19-0020
T\YLOR. ~I.ARKA.'S;DBENF :!2-183 ROl'GE~IONTDR
$ 2()().00
\l1o rk Dcsc-riptio n: lnsbdl 6 nxlo\\:,. .ind or door per co,unc1. fl'ucstMtion !.min lmJ5l be left ot1 "mdc,,..,./doon until after Sn.a.I
in,p«uon. Fuul in,pecti.>n r«jU1ttd.
PB19-0C•:!5
POLITO, ROBIN
'.!2012 :SE.GAllNE.E
$1 79.CXI
$'1•.l(J()
0l/2-l/3119
Work Dcsc ripc:ion: lmt.tll 6 "indo,n md 1 doorv.-all pc-r contneL F~tfitrntioo h\ble~ mw:t ht!- kh 011 ,'11\do·G:~/doon until aft£r Gn.J
uupection.. Fuul impecbon ttqlDted.
PB l \l--005?
WU.-...'-TG ROllP
?1337 SE.\UNOL£
$184.00
$6.259
0 1/J.l/3)19
Work Oeac.ripc:io n: Teuoff and rt n>0fbou,e 11nd g11r.agt".
Stop & Rewng!,., Roo1• IS# foll Ice & Wat..- Swdd. Dnp Edg,, \ "cot , A..slung& Shingles. T"" "'"F«''°"'
""luucd: Op,o/Progn," & Fuul. Roof, und.r 4/12 pitch. two b)-." 15# , ~ Roof, u,1dcr 2/12 pileh,
~lcmlmnc ""l"'ttd. R905:?.7 Strip & R,,.hingic ""cording lo conrncc T"'-o impecriotu r<qutred Open/Prag=,
and Rua!.
•
PB l \l-0083
\\'EBB.JOH -"\~' A~D JOA'-
:!2-119 \L\PLR\VOOD DR
$'>16.(1()
$20,916
02/TI /3119
U7C,.OO
$-l()tJ
1)2/12/3)19
W o rk Dcsc,ipcion: ltuwl roof moutucd ~b r p.meb per wro,.·cd plan.,
PB19-0l 57
T.G. I fQn>N, U..C
'.!18951'>O1.\N
W o rk Descriptio n: Bwh 36" high walls on both idb of u~ong buemt'nL
ln tenor :alienations Noo-ioad beanng p,u"tlbon, Rough .....~~ ceiling & fixwl tnspechotu ttqi.ared
PB l!l--0 167
FRAD PROPWnlES Ill LLC
21().IQ DEL.1\\1:' \RE
$173.tl()
$4,(XJO
0J/OG/~19
Wo rk Ocscripc:io n: instill (7) tt:pl.1eement ,-i:odo\\.'S..L1,ta.U wmd..:n1;1, and or door-pet cop1r.1cL Frne,tr:ation I.th.ks mu:.r be kft on
u'll1do"Vo-,/dooa, Udtil ,.ft.et final u1ipt.-ctil')ft. final mspcction ttquucd.
PB 19-0l77
FROST.JOYCE. & A:SURE..-'.
'.!7330 ARBOR"·.\\" 14
$129.00
$1,575
03/0-l/3119
Wo rk D«criptio n: huull (:?) vin~-l ttpbC('mcnl wmdov.~.
Inst.JI -..,nc:lmu and or Joor per cunt.ucL Feoe-!>rrauon tables mu.st be left on v.~,..., / dooa unnJ .tfter final
,mpccuon. Fuul irupccuon r«jU1ttd.
PBl9-0:!0I
Hl.D
$6,638
03/01/31 19
\'(1o rlc Descriptio n: In tenor ~ t t t 111,atcrproofing
PBl?-0288
0 E.\L, HCGH :\ND SO:SlA
:!l:!731'-Ul.-\ls
\Vork D escript ion: Rq>l:K't. 15 \\--indo\\.'j
lrui.U ..~ n aud o, cloo, pc:,; cont..cl
$275.f~I
r....,.,..tion Libltt"""' b< left on ..-w1o ....1c1oo .. until 2ftc, fu,,1
""P••:t100. Ftruol trupccuoo ~
PBl9-0395
HOETGER. t.L'.RTI-L.\
2092:! '-'EG.i\UNEE
$156.00
1\\- o ,k Description: Tear o(f .-nd rr roofhou,t- only.
Stop & Reshingle occotdmg tx> contract Two uupectiom ,..qui,,d. Op,,, / Prog,c,s ., ..J Fuul. Stttp & R..lungk
Roof IS# felt Ice & " ·••er Sludd_ Dnp Edge, V<ou, fu•hing & 51ung1.._ Two tn<p«:l>Ons rcqu.ttd, Opcn/ Progrc,a
,'< Fin.al RooC. i.nde,-l/ 11 pud,, """ lay•n 15# ,..q,m«l. Roofs un<k-<2/ l2p,ldt. ~lembrao< ""ftuttd. R9ti5.27
PB19-04-il
"1Ll-J:R.SON,L\l'R.\ .-\.'-Dl 1113JPOINCIANA
$'.!80.00
$I0.7'-IJ
04/ 17/ 2019
Work Dcscripc:.ion: lnst.llll.lhon of utlenor :rub !tOtl dum 1y,1cm p,r-r con\rlM.. L rough~ foul uupccooru rcqUlred Sump pump didu,~
!Chall be lo the stonn dr.un •hen 11.Yiubblc, OT to :1 locanou :arpro"·rd by the City of SourhJield'~ Cn;:,necnng
D.partmmt. Scp<n1< Plumbing p<nmt and .,,,ecuon; r<qUin-d
PBl?-0-194
l\:lfNYt:.\:>:G. :\.\IPOR..'-'-LIFT 2123) \'.\N BCRJ.:X
$129.00
Sl,2-12
05/20/ 3JI 9
Work O«c1rplion: lnsull CZ) \.,n)·I rcpha:ment wmdo• . ln:.tall "-lndo•-s and or door per conruc L Fen~tn.uon IAf>le,; mw.t ~ kft on
\\ino.)v..-s/ door, until '1\ftrr final trupc'Chon hn.11 m.~tion Rql.Uccd.
PB 19-lJ506
TG. I lam<', Ll.C
'.!1895 l'>DL""
$133.00
$1.500
05/ J-1 '3)19
\Yo rk D esc1'ipc ion: \'C'at«pro,ofing U1SKk of norlh u:~ :!8' ti«.I tnto erittmg sump thnt i, alee.Id_:,· uc.-<l into city stonn •"--cording to 0'\\Yler,
•
PBl'l-0518
Bl.RDEN. LEROY
21815 BEECH RD
$:!58.00
s;.580
o;/ m / 3.119
$9,CX)()
05/30/2JJ19
Wo rk De1crip1 ion: Oumney ~air rough and ftrul m~pet.~fiom required
PB19-068,
BANKS, PETI:R
212-15 \'AN Bl"RE'-
\Vo rk D c1cl'1p1 io n: Remo,~t llOd in.!t.all (8) samr size ,,n:·l 11:iu<lov. .lmtall v.vidow-!' 111\d or door per conttacL fc:oc,lnnon labk, must be
left on \t;m<lou ./<loors until afir r liru1 impccuon. Fuu.1 mspecticm ~uired
PBl?-0710
CLEOPHltS, GEORGE
20772 I ,DI AN
$15\1.00
$5:?6
(l{,/07/7!)19
Wo rk Dc&Criptioo: Reruon and replace ~xi~nng 11.-indo'\\. .ltl$tall "",ndo-w-, anJ or door pe-r contr.ic.t. Fcntstunon I.mies must be lefi on
'9.'Uldu\\'!1/doof'f until after finnl Ut.-t{,«l\01\. f'uul ul!pcclion requued
PBl?-0789
HIU.H.\ROLD
$9,90IJ
0(,/ 13 / 2019
�Work
De ·cripcion: Tc.t.ruff 11ml re-roof.
!:ttnp & R<!~hinglc llcconhng 10 conrnct. Tw,o i.u,tpa:tions rcquittd: Opc:n/Progtt''.'I rutd Ima.I "tnp & RcslunglcRaor I511 r.11 I« & \\'.icr Sludd, Dap Edge, Yent,, 11.l'hing & Slung!= T" o insp<cuons r<quu,d Op<n.l l'rogn,«
& Ftn.J Roofs un(.k.r 4/12 p1td,, ta·o L\ycr1 It;# trqlUt\'d. Ro.,l:. lmdcr J/12 p1fch. \fc:mbuoc rcqut«J. R90.i2 7
PBl9--0875
FRO\! IJOC,r TO 110\ll! PF !1-108 l:SI-.STER RD
1:?l:?.UII
$15-19
07/0!/3119
$3/.IIKI
$'.!, ,ou
08/2tl/3ll9
Work Oc•cription, R•huild liont pon:h
PBl9~~J07
I ICCKLEBERRY.JLSTl:S:
\Vork De.script.ion: Con•tcUct
J.
:?ll'!59 l'C)[N0.\:--J.\
"'-oo<kn dt-c;;b. per J.pprm·cd pl.in!-. f·uoung.. opt"n 1oi"t. U.u:ral tt•tr.unt "uppvrt & fUW Uls~uo11
requir«l..
PBl?-091!
RllSII, R,V:HFI.E.
07/05/::IJ19
$95(•1
!1018 '.'-F.G \l ''iEE
Work Ucticription: ln1cnr 8-bemt"nt \\'ltccproofinp; ln~t.1lli.ng I Hf of-!,. S&
D pifX to a new wn,r that,~~~ to an eriittngd1.,._h,uge
,,,hich duUU to II c-uh ht-rt
PB19-09!7
$1!5.CXl
K.\l!LO:--:, K.>Jl!'IAIL&SllRI ~18ZI ,EGAUNE!i
\\fork Description: In~wl \\1ndo"G:s mJ or d,)Or ptt t.-onlrlKt. ft>1ic:olt:\OOn fable., mwt he lcf1 t'>n
uupec.tion f"U1.1l ut~pt."'CtiOll rcquucd
PBl9-{19(,6
ALFRED Ml'KO\lEL RE\"O< 2'.?403 ROL'GE\IONT DR
$605
\J,,-Ut~\\.'4donrt
$149.00
08/08/311•)
unlll ._ftcr foul
07/17/2!.119
$2,500
\\'ork De cripc.ion: ln5Ull v.indo" and or doorpt::r contrJ.Ct. Fene lr1tion lahle-1 ml.f1't be ld1 on u.'Uldo"'~/doors unnl ;after fuu1
inspection F.n:tl u , ~ requucd.. 5 \,nyl ttpht.;:ffllCllt \\~,a;"
PB19- IOOJ
$ll)0.00
27J05BYRON
O'KE.f:IT. TERRENCE
$1,CJJO
07/15/2!119
Work Description: Stnp & Ruhinglc Ro..,( JS# felt k~ & Winier Slue-Id. Dnp Edge\ enh. r-Whing & SJunglc~- T..,o tn,-,«tlOm
n,qwr«I: Open/Progtt,s & hn,l Roof und,r 4/ 12 pitch,
~len~mne req,ur«I. R905.:?.7
PBl9-l l28
two
l,ver> I '>II r<qu1red. Roor, un<l•r ~/ 1! pitch,
J;:01'.\CZ,JF_,,!FER & YOll :,1975 :S-EG \l 1NEE
S3:!J.IXI
$13,J'i')
08/(l9/::IJ!9
Work D«cription: Inst.:U.huon of uttt"nor sub ,oil dt,un S~""$kDl per contn-:t rough lJld fuuJ insp«-bon, rcqwm:i. Sump pump th;dla-rge
,hall be 10 the ,1ann dr.un ,.-t.,n ",uhblc, or to • location -rrro•-.d by the Guy or Southfield'• Enp,neeang
Dq,ilrtmrnt ~rJk Plumh1ngpcmut and tn:ip«OOJU teqt.u.red.
PB19-1198
'c
K\'.'-'G.\S, E.DW,\RD & '
$178.00
213'5 '.'-EG.\LTNEE.
\\'ork Dc,c,iplton: Stnp & Re-ffl.Ulgl~ Roni I~ felt kt'. & \\'«kr Slucld, Dnp
$-!,JOO
08/16/21119
EJgc- \ cnt~ Fl.&Slung & Shi.1glu. Ta·o tmpt:Lttont
.. quired: Open/Pt0gre,. & Fin.J. Roofs uncle, 4/12 pi1ch, two by"" 15# "'l'"'"d. Roor, umlc, 2/1! pnch,
\(embranc r<quued. R9052.7
1'B19-1328
!G045 ROl'GF.. Cl
BROWER.BETS\'E.
$217.(1()
$8,287
08/30/:))19
Work Ducriptiow Stnp & Rcslung!e Roor 1511 reh I« & W•ter Shield, Dap Edge \'ent>, fu,hing & Shingles. Two tn•p«uons
requued Opcn/Pt0gn,ss & Final Roor, ,u,<l<r 4112 pitch, two by«• 1511 "'luu,d· Roofs under 2/12 pttch.
\fc-mbr.mc rcqwttJ. R905.27
PB19-1448
\IF.RRll.l., UlsD,4.& DA.,lEI 214101:SDIAN
Work Oucripcion: ..
PB19-l 504
SU200
$8.JO(J
fJ9/25/'1/J19
$189.()1)
$5,000
10/23/21119
$+18.0lJ
$:!IJ,IJ()t)
10/23/2!119
$5,006
11/14/3119
-mor
fRO\I HOl'SE TO HOME PF 21-1(18 1,'KS'IT.R RD
Work Dc:.cripcion: lru.i..tll fl<laog and 7 -.-it,do~~
Work Oc,;cripcion: 15 W.U aocl>on<. 5 pov.tt Im<<
PBl9- 1633
FRO\( Hot ·sc TO HOME PF 214118 t,K.',JTR RD
$671.UO
Work O.:.cnpw,n: R<model hnu ..
PBl9-ln2
,1.,mso:--:. i.:RYSTALJ &J.1 2n72 EM\f[TI
$17400
Work Dcscriptlon: 5tnp ,nJ ce-roor
PBl9-1832
....,ur.Rso,. JOE. &
u,o \ 225:)) RIVERDALE
Work OctJCripcion: lnsull 3 '1.i.oclo\1.·i and
PBl9-1869
J
$168.f.lJ
doorvtaU pet: oontr..ct.
\NOLI<:!-:., PEXELOPE
!2106 1:--:KS'!"ER RD
$164(1()
$4,685
12/C/5/2()19
21706!,D! \N
$176.IXJ
$-1,1,.IR
01/2?/'.))20
$180.ll()
$-1,450
01/29/2!)20
$147.11()
$2,3%
01/28/:,120
$:?59.00
$'i,t,X)
03/ 16/203)
$!7-100
$ IO,JS'i
05/08/3.l:!l)
$21120:1
$5,&M)
05/08/]J)'.)J
S211.00
$7,YlO
OS/13/3120
$267.l)(J
~.6/N)
O'i/26/:::IJW
$13200
Sl,4IO
0<,/01/3l21J
$:2:!2.l)(J
$7,032
06/29/'21.):!ll
$1821)()
$6,IIXI
06/16/20:ll
$325(1()
$6.<,Q(J
06/ 16/21)31
Wurk Deac.ription: te11r off .ind Re roof
PB~lO(,O
Jam ..,. tcphcn P. Jr
Work Dc1cripcion: ln~tall 9 11o'U1doy,.-s pc-r conte\Ct
PB::IJ-<JOG!
\fC\!l'LLE..'\:, D. & ZERVOS) 21550 IXDI\N
Work De.scrirtion: Jn.,t:all
1'8'.)).()188
-1-
rq,l.M:iet~t ..indo,u
LEICJ-mTI'JS, .ill AM & Rf'.ll 21)747 DEL\WARE
Work Description: llliull 6 ttplaccment umdow,
Pll:!!)-{)'>-35
LG PROP[Rn· HOLDl,GS
21119 t:--:DJ.\N
Work Oescripcion: \\'ood Dtck l! X 1~· prc~urr lre.tt:d
PB]J)--0269
W.\LTO'.'-', CHARLES/CRM,4. 21800 \IAPLEWOOD DR
Work ~cription: 49ft mtenor 'V.11tt:rproofi11g h> cxl!'nng wmp pump .ind I I 48ft cr<1\\.·bp.u:c cm:.tpsobtc
PB'.3).()383
SADLFR. 1... ,ms S
Work Dc11cripcion: Stnp
1!016 SF\!JNOLF.
and re-rooi
Work Dc1eription: Tiear off/re--roof holbe 21td (kuchtd pr.age
P821J--0473
Lil) W•ng
21344 ~li.\11NOLF
Work Dcsc-ripcion: C-.mpktc bL."<"tnenl ~mc:.Kklmgptt v.-nt1en "C'opt' oi u·odc
PB:?ll-0501
R.\MAN, P.\TRICL\ D.\\1S
!6612 EM\IETI
Work Dcscripcion: In,u.11 I ,-,nyl ttpllcc:-ment \\'Ul<:L>v.
PB::l}-0537
CRL'Z, \llCHJ\EL
Work lk cription: Rerl.Kc- 10 "'m.do,o
PB3J--0586
IIP SN,4.PIN\'ES!"ME..,,LL( 2148'\t,DIAN
Work Description: .)mp and tt-roof
PB21.la)(.01
I IP SN\P IN\'E..'IT\IE..'7' LLC !075! IX!-:SI ER RD
Work Description: \\a.odo,n. nt"Ot· cer.unic Ooonng kn 111nJ bathroom. dryw~J and city rcpain lhroughout. ext md
PB;,J.tJ(.t):?
I IP SN \P !N\T:Snlf:..''T LI .C 21-1851:S.'DI.\N
$320.0(I
Lilt
doors
$9.000
or,/ 16/3120
�\Vork Dcscripcion: E...'fr lX)ORS,
PB:?0--06-16
~C'\\.
llooru1glu1 and h.ath, new C;thu1ett uood dct,lchecl pcrguL., <l..ryw.dl aml rcpJJr:
:10:?6 \X'J\k'EDON LLC
$189.00
s;.ooo
(16/19/1/.1'.!I)
S:4200
$8,30.i
06/24/2fl:?ll
$318.00
$7,500
06/14/2!):?I)
$137,00
$1.747
1)8/13/:?ll:11
$27200
$6,(XJO
08/18/2020
$9U3.CKI
$1U,OO0
10/1-1/:?1)21!
$:!30.00
$1
10/14/2030
Work Description: .St.np and re-roof
•
\Vo(k Description: 114 foelot' 111tcoor waterproofing
PB:?IJ.()658
RR/II HOLD!:S:GS, LLC
20H9 l'.':DIJ\N
\Vork Dcsc:ripcicm: Rcplncc kttCM:n_ new i.ncc-rior dooN OC'W front door
PB20-0954
llRIGMT, CAROLYN
272i! ."\RllORIYAY CU:Bl1SE
Work Uescriplion: R.cp1'-.cc 1 ,,u1~·l window
P82!l-0976
BRAt::-... RO:S!ILD C & 1...-.t:R 21U89 l~ 'AKEIX.J:S-
Work DescripLion: lnsull 1's'12'(/' wood tk-ck .-1 rear of du·c.lling
Rq,t:1ir froot porcb
PB2t). f J 64
~1OTOR CITY C'.ONSl RLICTI 26650 W 8 \IIU' RD
\'(fork Description: ..\dJ I re:.Lr0001 .u,d medumciil m.odifi0,&.llon,.
PB3l-l 166
~IOTOR c1n· CONSTRUCTI 26700 W 8 MILE RD
Work Oucrip1ion: .>\dJ l b11thcoonu 1U1J m1nor :1l temali.00 - M,un PC'nrut ,~ Pll20--l lCH
PB'.ll-1197
ARIZO:S:,\ l'\'\'EST\IENTS L 2n12 \'\' 8 MILE RD
$.366.00
W'ork Description: UbL111.ihonof I olumi.num tube fr.m~ fabric CO\ered :t\\ningove:r fronl \\indows md door - no stgtu~on ,wrllng
PB:?ll-1335
$l32fKl
$3.000
09/18/201/.l
$1,(l.lO.(K)
$-l~JM)()
I0/22/'.l)'}J)
ILALLSR,JOll).'NY& PAlllf 2Q950POTNCIAN/\
Work Oucriptiorc S1np and ~t00f
1'820---1465
Mnny fo\'ti!tment.s UC
Work Description: ln5bll new k.atchcn e:ililltcb, neu. Oomlflg. bct.lroom u·all fume U-ith closeli; uutRll tte\\ s.hu,gle.
Addcndurt1 12/ .2/20: Install r:e,•cnc: W'blc roof ro froo1 of 4l0gle farruly rnic.knce
P821.(l01 l
\ll!NS, RON ...r.D
$1-19.00
$2,50()
02/09 /:ll:?J
Work Dc11c_ription: I.n!rtillmg (4) vmyl reploceme-ot \\.~.tdows
PB21.(JOJ4
BRO\t'N, FE.'\:TO:S: &J.\NET '.!1)')78 DEL.Al'C\RE
$181.00
\Vork Description: 2 hehc-al phlcs
PB~l--0102
J,\\IES, STEPHE:S P JR
21706 l:SDIAN
$133.00
$1,527
02/05/:?1)21
11351 SE\lfNOW
$185.00
$-1.780
~/16/'lD2I
$311.00
$8,500
0-1/:3/2021
$1,786.00
$85,818
05/l2/'.ll21
Work Oc•crip1ion: lnsulhng (I) Doonv..U
P81l•0l50
~
SH.WERS, YOL,\NDA
ork Description: lrut.Ul.u,g ( lO) ,-in)l tt-placement
Ptl11.(!466
\\.-ind0\\"1
GILSTR.\P, BR\'./\NT & SHA' 26611 HUWASSEE RD
Work Detcripcion: '-ew c:otnp<»itc deck WO!llmcbon - :?lb;l2 wnh nu.l.tng and
•
PB21--0-168
Work Du:cri
PB2l-0577
TAYLOR,CA.,DICE
flep$
22425 RIVERD.\LE
ioo: Ft.re- d.anugc/~air iu 6repl;acc- room. R & R <lr)"\"nll, insul.ation. Ille. ou.sonay on fucpl.tcc, -.-.-mdows, c:itcrior door tn
the affected room.. R & R carpet.lng & Oooring duoughout nu.in floor & up:1tair-s. Su:ucl.Utt cle.u1. wall~. b~ho~tt.b,
v.ind:>v.,. doors & paint wall:,. 011cc clcilne<l.
$125.00
$99(1
05/03/2021
26700 fill \IETT
$11-1.00
Q.060
05/26/2021
:?09()9SE.\11NOLE
Sl56.00
$2,955
07/01 /:?1)21
BE:-..1:rncr. ROBERT AND r 2'.!,521) ROUGE\IONT DR
Work Dc.cription: Rep,1.u:-emcru \'('indows I Basenlnn wiudma,.~ Hoppa
PB!l--0675
~l.\'-'~lNG, D.\)1.lt\N
Work Description: 82IT GL71TCRS
PBZl--0985
PAPP.\S, co:---sr_"-.,CE
Work Ocd:cripcion: I11!1l;1Jhng (6) tcplilCffllcnt \\-ilid0\\'5 at :?0909 Seminole and ::?7308 Byron (.2 addrc~5 for one hou,e)
PB21-1181
.\Bil YOMI, DORCAS M
:1023 SE~IINOLF
$+19.00
$15.lU')
07/3<J/3.l2I
Work Description: De:ano Oei...ched gt1ar:age, sLtb ru1d found.WO,i. Demo lnterior o( re~ct to the Huc:b repair ntcrior fron1 porch
and M!C\Jrc the ptopcr1y from the clement,.
1'821-1196
ttp:w- ex.i.sung ch:unlink
~ ~Ulre<l
fence
$3):?.00
$7.-IOO
07 /28/:?ll2J
$118.00
$9.0IJ7
08/09/2021
S:?8300
$12,572
08/09/2021
21121 SE\IINOI.E
Sl96.00
$6.9')7
08/ 11 /20:1
22200 smrrNoLE
$2-18.(X)
$1,500
0S/16/:ll21
\X1TJ\IER, PHILIP & P"-.\!l:.L' 21716 Sl:.\!INOLE
Work Description: stop .i.nd rero0f residentu.l
PB11-1216
STAVROS. PAUL A
2157-1 POINCIANi\
W'ork Description: Tetit off and [C-roofhoo,e .md remove, ru1d replace complete guller ,pm:m
PB21 - l273
\ '.\R.'-.'ER. 7\llCHAIL& LIND. 223'16 \1.\PLE\'\'00D DR
\~ork Description: Roof ttpbcem~nt for house :utd ~rngc-
PB21-l:?87
FTL\,ZEL,ROGERII
\Vork Description:
1'821·1306
Tt-.a.t
off reroofbou5e: only.
CHRISTENSE:S, EMILY
\Vork Dct1cription: Replxing th.c roof 011 my honsc.
Tearu1g off the erist.tng: ~hmgks.. ni.,l.1t..·i.ng any weak boards, and puttmg on llC'\L' HD !ihu,gk, with the appropn;1tc
Liye~ of ~c gu:ml and under lauun.ilc paper undot:n1e11tJt_ ~~ w~U 11<1 drip t-d~ .and lh~hiog for the edge-, :1nd exlult I
pip<
Pl\21-1351
D\\l!\,CI.AIRE&!.L'BERGb 22tl85POINCI-\N.\
$334,00
$10,000
08/20/2021
$166,00
$8,237
J0/06/2021
$371.00
$13,493
10/11/2021
$cll0.00
i9.0')()
11/0(,/2021
$9,200
l2/09/:x121
Work Dc-s-cripcion: Tearoff and re roofboU9C' :llld ga,-.,ge .and n~"" g\lUers
•
21736 XEG!\UNEE
\Vork 'De5c.ription: Ruoi rq,laamcni for hou~e
PB21-1752
YEG l!R HOLDINGS LLC
Work Ocsctiptioo:
21995 POINCIANA
tnp and tc:Shingc.1 roof,
:,..:cw guucn and down.~ut,;
Work Description: Stop and re--roof ou home only, uut11ll new GAF l'"tmhtrlme HDZ rcw)f 5)1tcm.
PB21-21 IJ
CIIIS~f.ARK. U,\,'RENCE M
20'-)56 DELA\X'_ \RE
Work OcBcription: Fasda & Overh:u1g.
Vinyl Soffi.t & Alum. Trim Gutter Sysitm & Guard
$281.(IO
�$:?IIHll
$7.'i<J<l
12/10/ 3>21
$11,308
01/0413>18
\\'ork D«cri ption: :°'cu: roof
Pll:::-11104
$316.l)I
SHRDl.l:D\\'A RD&~l\DEJ 2'165.-HI.\WA: CERD
Work De.saipc ion: Stnp •nJ ~roof hoUS< and g.ara~
Plll7-1983
s.\,KOI•.-\ H,)LDl,GS 1,c
2:(,Q\I ROl 'GE\IONT DR
$<>71.00
\\:ork De cripc ion: \"aciuu Rcoonooru- Bcdrvvrn md b;ath, / ~,bl N.'J').Ur RouW'J \\.ill, irbubbon .and final U\Sf>C"-UOn, rcquuccl ~e
contucr Jul> 9CI for ,pec:1 1mc.t 1'<ld1uon:J permit... tretuu•t•d \ddrn<lum #1 Rern.l\t "1'Ki recon,i.nx1.a dormer
Remodlc ht lloor bathroom. +-:?;..19 ..ill Rough. lll!<iUl.1llo1l and fu\.J in~ptc1iot1, f'«l'o.ttd
Pll:?0.{>819
\n'-'FRFI', GP . BJR& DORJ 27330 .\IU.IOR~ '.\\'# 10
Work Oc1«:ription: Roidcnti.'11
1'8:tl-HJ'JI
,i,.,ndow
.uxl 1 patio door
)KL REAL ESTATE CO LLC
$ll1CWJ
St.'m
08/ 0'\/21l20
27070 SHI.\\\',\SSEE RD
$175.00
$1,0C,0
08/17/:?ll:?ll
2174!, SF\IINOLE
$248.00
Wurk Dcscflpcion: $1\.Wlg worJ..
PB:»-1315
:-;,\Dl.'\N TTO
W ork Descript ion: Rcmo,-e anJ ttpLace rouf p~r coJe
l'B:!tl-13:i,4
2 ST.'\.RS PROPERTIES LU:
2 1;81 1:-;Ul.'I..'>:
$231.00
~419 ,\l\PLEWOOD DR
$51.Wl.<XI
$!3,700
12/0-1/:?l'l:ll
$ 1'i8(0
$1,">00
l2/07/'!Il1JJ
$ 161 O:l
$t.7l•l
12/15/3)21'1
$339.00
$11,3'11)
Ol.'2)/21)21
$148.00
s,,533
o;/14/3121
Wo rk Dc:scrip<ion: Roofing Repll\C'ffllC"tll
P82()..t<;i;
\\1, 88, JOH.'\\ ,. ._,DJOA.,
Wo ,k D«crir< ion: RoofTe.ll'oiC and Roof Ran c.JI .and "Pl><< gutter, & do ..-n,pout,
l'B:?l'-1666
~
.\IIRl_l:\..''-l .\N, \1H£R& :SARI 2110-11,K!>TER RD
o rk D«crir< ion: Repbc< roof on g,u,,gc - ,e,.dcnb.J
PB21l-l7l9
FORBES, SCXYIT & \1CD.\M 2. 1768 :-:EG.\l1':EE
Work Description: Roof ttp.u.r
21081 EAST
\\'ork D«cripc:i.on:
SO"'fl~
l2l.Jf1 for uucrior ,·.derproofing and 1 !ump pump
26700 EM\IETI
Wo , k Ducrir<io n: R£PL\Cl.
·c 7 \'1:-;lX)WS, SIZE FOR SIL.I::
PB21-0713
STROBi.., HEIDI
$198.00
PB1t-0937
HO.\..'-G, l . \M & TONG. SCC 21:>'.)<l(J \'.\!'I BL"RE.'>:
$?760()
$11,900
06/29/3121
$5(1,1()(1
$!3,994
117/o7/JJ21
Work Descriptio n: TEAR OIT SI 11:-;GLE,S R£PL'I.CE \\111-1 NE\\'
PB2l-1Ct!-I
CHL\1ARK,LAWRIJ.:-;CE \I
:?0956 DELAW.\RE
Work D etcripc ion:.
GLTTCR GRATES o:,; HOU E, 2.24 SQ OF SOFFTI A.'D J:?., S(~ OF TRIM o, HOl '~f., 059 SQ OF
SOFFlT AND 0.94 SQ OF TRI\I ON G.\R.\GI'
P811-10;4
A11J',;GU.., MARJ.'\ & .\'-DRf 21335 \LWLEWOOD DR
$166.00
$2,())()
07/12/3111
$2.500
07/'.!!>nJJ:!.l
$15,0:Xl
01/17/:lll7
Work Ocacripcion: 178 FT Rf.MO\T:: A:. 'D Rl'PL\CE GUTTERS \HTI 1 S 00\\'NSPOLrfS
PB11-IQ71
FR.\D PROP!lRTIES Ill U.C
$::41.00
211HO DEL.\WARE
\l'ork Dc•cripcion: Rew>{ Tear off anJ rq,lxnnent
PB:?.1-1156
ER\\1:-,:,JO\'CE
214051. Dl.'\N
Wo rk Ocactir<ion: Roofing - ~roof bou,c - ln•..U .,.., hiugl,.
PB1<,.t07ft
1-:0RJ-'..•S PRE$8\TuRlA.'- C 27095 \\ ' 9 MILE RD
$-189.lK)
Work Ocacripcion: Dcmohbon of270?5 WQt ?\:mc ~We Road.. ~tic tank must he emptied and cruMlccl OaklauJ \..ounty \li·cll pemV1
ttqtu.rcd for capping, fo\lflJJ.tio11 tt:roo,.-al . backfill m1f>«t10ns ceqULJ:ed paor to fuul gr:idmg of sate Sod / seed &
111ukJ1 ttqlllted for fin.ti Ub{)C'Cltoll.
PBl7-03~,
TATE. RlffillEMTRUST
2733'1/JUJORW/\\'# IQ
$168Jl0
$3.684
03/ )(J/2017
Work Dcacrlpt ion: lmtal.12 ,1.0~1 rq,la«nralt Wllldo, AlKI I door'\l-c:111
List.ill
""'--inJ..>"'1 a&.1dot doorpcrcontrAct
fmc.~1rat1on
1.bk·\ mu:lt be left on ,a.,ndo"'. / doors unnl after final
uupecuon. Fuial u,,spec-uoo ttq'An.J.
H.100
05/IJ.l/3!17
Work~ription: Te-aroff111dre-rouf
.tnp & Rc,lungl< occurduig w cont,...:I T"o uur«bon- n:quittd· Op.n/Prvgr,, and hn-1.
Stnp & Rc,luuglc Roof 15# fdt I« & \t;Aler Shield, Drip Edg< \ ·cut,, n,,hu,g & Slung!<, T.. o in,pccnon,
rcquu-«l Op<n / Prog,tt, & hr..J. Roof, unJc,4 / l: p,t<lt, t"''O U)-.r, 15# ceqwn,J. Roofs ,aKk<:?/ 12 pnch.
\{<ml,...,. r,qu,rcd. R'J05.27
PB17-07~
KITCHEN, IILL
:n;.J ,\RBOR\\ W
II 25
$170.lO
Work Oescrtplion: lru-t.U 3 \'"lllyl rq,Llcemcar ,,iklo~""'
hut.all w1ndo,a."' Mki or c:hor p,e-r contrac.L r~stnooo uNes mu.-.1 }1< Lef1 un v.,.nJn,a.·<1 / d•lOI"!! uab.l after foul
unp«uo.L Fnul .,,,..a,,., rcquu<d.
PB17.08-16
TRIPLE I HOSPIT:I..Lln· 1.u; 21(~,0 DE.I.A\~ .\RE
$3114.00
$1,1,00)
1)6/ll6/ :?lll7
\{ o,k Descript io n: Kitchen c.bJn<t> ond h'1h.room ttm<><kl, rough ood final in,p,cn,,n, r,qwn,d Stnp & Rcshiui,Jc Roof 15# fd1 I« &
Slu<kl, Drip Edge Yen", Fl.,,lung & !-lungk Two Ul,p«ll<>n, "'I"'""' Op,n/l'rog,«, & rm.i R.,.-,f,
uruk,4/l2pu.:h, two 1,,y<« 15# ,.q,•n:d Roof undn2/12pud,. \lombrone r,quu-ed. R90.,.2 .7
w.,.,
l'lll7-1 (1)6
co,:--1::R. I..Y1'DON
S?,21Jo
216711 ROl:GEW'OOD DR
07/ 19/3117
Work Oescrip<ion: . ·..,. rool /tcnoll and r«o,cr/GM Slu.lJ /\'nutocO<kS1np& Re.hmgk Roof t;# foll Ice &\\·,i.,Shu:kl, Dnp
F..dg, \ 'cnll, Aa.tlung & Slunglc . T.,-., Ut<p<ct0<>n• tequiml. Open/Props, & hnal Roof, undo, 4/ 12 puch, n.-o
bya'I- 1~ rcqusttd. Roof~ under 2/ I~ pttch. \lcmbr.ulC' m,wrcd. R905.~ 7
PBl7-12l5
BR.•8TLE\', \L-\RK & ROSAi 2t,4AA SJ IIA\\'.-\~'l.f. RD
$125.00
$1,-IOO
08/1 l/:ll17
Work Dcscripc ion: 8}. 10 ft 'JohcJ \\Ith ccmtin ut ,i;,1.ll
Zo1ung co1nrliam:.c permit
to
1mt.Jl a :<1hc<l 011 • com:rctc :tbb and r-al"\l..ill per olf'PtO-.cJ pl~. Slnd ti1d fin.I
irup«tion n:qu,"'1.
PBl7-l'.!6-I
GL\SS,SH.WL-\
\Vork Description:
:z:::l05 \l\l'LEWOOD DR
$337.00
$7,:l<JO
08/31)/ 3Jl7
�fntcnor a:ltentioo, ~on -lo.id bc.anngp.irtit1',n~ Rough u.Jll. opf'fl ceiling & hnii.} tn,.,pecbo11' required
l11,t.1U v.i:mlo\\~ :\J1d or door per contract. Penc~t.ration Lilile$ m,1,t ix- left on "'u,dow.,/ doon unn1 .afte1· fin\U
mspccrion. Fin;1l 111.~tlon requucd..
PBl7- U36
•
ROBE.RTS. LIND.\ .\L\RJE
S2.0-C
21319 'EG.".UNEE
09/:Y,/ :J.Jt7
L1,tall \\o"U.ldoW!I aud or door per contcacl rfflC',tr.abon I.J>k mu!'tt be left on u"U1dov.·-;/ doon unuJ after final
in,,cc:uon. Fin.al tm,pect10n ttquu~
PD l7-1676
LO\'E. !AMES & CAROL
$\00(1
209')() POINCIANA
I0/31/2017
\1:'ork Oc:.scriptio n: Stnp & Rcmingle .o:ordmg Ct> contr..1.ct . T\\"O 111.sped.10ru requited · Open/Progte,, ilind Fmat Stop & Rn:hu1glc
Roof 15# felt Ice & " '.rec Sh,dd, Dop Edge Vcntll. Flashing & Shuiglc; T"·o 1nsrccnon• requu<d· Opcn/Progtts,
& Fm~l Roof, undcr-f/ 1:? path. t\\.·o b~-crs 15# requucd. Roof, unda :?/12 pm:h. \(cmhnnc rcqturcd. R90;.:?.7
1'817-1716
DRAKE, T\KEIT.\
Wo rk Descnptron: ht.,m.:.
PB 18-0003
g;
$521.<IO
:!2!J72 l'Ot'.'lCL\N.\
~
D \ \ 15. ESTES 0 .
·
·
S
$I8,(Wl()
·
03/ 2l / :Jllt9
g · "t'
l9
=10 ROLJGE.\IONTDR
$2$5.CXI
$lfl,752
01/11/21118
Wo rk Descript ion.: ~;;1';;; ;e:;:;;•Roof t 5# fe:lt ke & \'\':u.er Shidd. Dop Edge \ 'cnh, A~lllng & Shrngks. Tv.o 1mpect10n..:
rcqtnred: Opco/Pt0grt5j & Fwal Roofe under 4/1:? pitch, hl.-o 1:t)"C'~ 15# n.-quircd.
Roof~ Wlder !/12 p1~h. ~fombnme rtquu-=cL R90S.2.7 SH \;ob.non lJ.sr f o e ~ perm.i~tnp & Reslungle
JCtordmg to conll":tct. Tu.--o inspe.r;1l()1u required Open/Progtt1s and Fu1al
PBIS-0084
BE'\:GRY, CELI,\
21528 '\:EG.'\UNEE
H71.00
$15,000
02/06/2018
$81),000
05/29/20 18
Wo rk Dcacripl.iOn: 2018 - Ntc:hen R.c1no<lel~ rcmQn· su(liu. Rough tnd fuul in.,pccttoru n:qlllt'C'd.
PBl!l-0712
GRA'-lTE~OL'RCEJ'\:C
26530 \~· 8 MIU:: RD
$1.6J.l.00
Work Oc~cripc ion: In:.ull mcmbf'11.nt" roof. mmimrnn R·32 uuularaon required Optn roof and fuud inspection ttqurre<l.
1'B18-0779
\~1-llTE, Pl IYU,IS
$308.00
22431 ~L\PLE\\OOD DR
$14.2')?
06/05/21118
Wo rk Dcscrip1io n: Smp and reroof bou.."C & g.m1.gc . Rq,bcc guttc:rs
Stnp & Rcshmg!• Roof IS# l<lt le, & \''•terSluekl, Dnp Edge Vent,, A.&ung& Shmgl,.. T"o tn,p<cnoru
requn•ed, Open/Props• & final. Roof• under 4/ 12 pi1<h. tv.o l•y•n 1311 roquued. Roof, under 2/12 p11ch,
~lembr,nc r:cqWI«l R91J;.'.?. 7 Strip & R..hu1glc ..-cordtng lo contraec T .,'O uup,,:tio11, r:cquin:<L Opcn/P-•
ondFm.il,
CLOSED
PBl3-0788
~
1:-.:co:-.1rLETE PROJECT
\IISSIO:S: 117
$330.CIO
$5,-lOO
06/21 /3'l8
$6,000
06/2?/:?lll8
o rk D«c:npcion; ~nenr rcnx:><kl Rough. u1jljbtt0n and 6n.J 1n.._otpecnons rrquir1...J.
PBl!l-0873
BEL~CHE\~·. \ 1'11KAL H
l'B 18-t Ill
STI.IRDY, BRIDGET
$166.00
23>57 SE~IlNOLC
Wo rk Descriptio n: Rq,IUr of -:1 7ft x 8ft -.all and
•
R\~
2134-1 SE.\IINOU::
add.h«'Y11~
wall rep:ur tO ,Wrcase 8 r IOft. Rough and £in.al
$7 19.00
U.137W9~11L£RD
ltl>pec-1100 tcqU&.red.
SJ0.1199
08/08/2018
Work Octrcript ion: N.h.:httl Reno,•111tion (rc-vdcntia.l). ~ew c.lbu,cb Wo. Rot1gh and r11.1.u tnspt'COO(l.$ required.
PBl!l-1276
\[1&;10:S: 117
$125.00
213+! SE \UNOLE.
Sl.3JO
08/21/~18
Wo.rk Description: lml21Ltio1l of of an 8 x 10 shed u.,th nu u-,tll
Zonmgcompli.u:1.C<= pemut to 1.05ul) a s.bcd 011 a conc:rctc tab and .nnv.·all per appn,vtd p.Lui.5. S.md .uld fuul
impcction icquirccl.
PD l!l-1336
PETERSON. R.~E
$'.!33.00
:UIOI POINCIANA
$9,333
12/ 06/21.118
Wo rk D«cription: 10 ,q rooting R&R (hou,c & gauge) G.\F Deck umor unded,y. No scructurnl ch ..,ge,
Stnp&R.slunglc Roof IS# &.lrlcc& \\•1erShickl. Dnp Edg, \ ',n", Aa,hlng& Shii.,gtc.. T..-u impecuon,
requlr& Opcn/Pmgn,..s & Final. Roof, undcr 4 / 12 puch. "'" L,y..., 13# r:cquittd. Roofs under 2/ 12 picch,
~lembra11c «<]uirccl.. R')();.2 7 Step & Rc.hrngk aeco.dmg to conll'ael T ,.." insp,cuoru cequuc<L Clpcn/Po>g<c>,
tlild Fuul
PB18-t,:J.J
~ICCOR~11Ct,.;, ROD EY &
21793 :--EG.\11'-!EE
S2U.00
it.710
10/ 24/:J.JIB
$16100
$4.800
I l/ 2'J/20l8
$219.00
$6,900
03/14/:))19
Work Descript ion: Rc~ 11ti;\], Ntchcn aud Bathroom re-model
PB IS-1888
Sl'ARK, HALONA..'\; RE\'OC.' 21801 POINO.\
A
Work Dc,,cripc ion: Scrip & Re roof -..-ill, 6(hntl EPD\I Open and fin..t u,-,,ectioo., r,quued.
PBl9-0:?50
BAKER. CYN11-IL\
2..."()15 BEECH RD
\Vork Dc.K:ript ion: Te11.t off complete roof o.nd te•roo[
Strip& R.e.hinglc Roof IS# f•h Ice& \Vot«Shield.Dnp E<lge \ 'cn1s, A.clung&. hcnglcs. Twotn,pecno,,s
rcqt.ti.tcd.: Opc-n/ProgteS!I; & Final Roofs u1'kler-t/J:?pitch. two b)"Cn 15# requtttd.. Roofs under 'J./ 12pltch,
\Jcnihnnc "'l'"~d. R905.'.?. 7
CLOSED l.:S:CO\IPI..ET[ PROJECT. RW
PBl?-0264
\IO:--.TGO\tf.R\, 1-.A.\f\RIA
21&01.:S:EG.\ t:. ' EE
Wo rk Ucscrip(ion: lu,iull (11) \-U1yl npl,1ccmcnt '-1.lndo\\"S.ln.stJ.ll wmdou."5 .ind or door pee conuacL Fenc-sW'!Uon hhlcs mu.-ct be- left Oft
wmdov.--,/ doon until -Lftcr final lll!i)Kbon. Final Ul-~crion teqlured
CLOSED l:S:CO\IPI.ETF. PROlECl . RW
PB19--031I
2590ll\\' 8~ULERO..-\OLLC
Work Dcscript:ion:
l1t."t.all:HJon
$10,(llJO
04/ l5/:J.Jl9
$3-17.00
SIS~l
05/07/:J.Jt9
S-1<>8.l)'J
$23,174
05/ 01/:Jlll9
25')()1)W8 IlLERD
of II k-rnpon~· offict": tr.uler, ,·alid \la.rcl1 :;. ~)19 through M,uch 5, :!l'20
O..OSED l:S:CO\fPl.ETE PROJECT. R\,
PBl9-0453
PERRY\!\! , REECE TRUST
26431 SHI \WASSEE RD
Wo rk Description: 138.lf 111R:-'00r v.":ttcrptQCfi.ng ncd to new :-tunp pump
•
Appcov«l by Lngan«-ong
O..OSED l'\:CO\ll'LETE PROJECT . RW
1'B19-0507
SlUKES. OOROlHY
217,:, \lAPLE\,OOD DR
Work Ducripc io n: In.suluhOn of ,,n:-i ndmg. trim & 1th.unmum tnm / gunt-rs per conlr-..ict. Fuul UlS'f)tcllOn rcquittd.
CJ..OSED I ,CO\fPLETE PROJECT
1'B19-0511
SOt.'11 lflELD NEIGHBOR! I 21870 \l\PLEWOOD DR
\Vo rk D escri ption:
$2.()41.00
$108,575
05/03/ :Jlll?
�.md .\1C'\.'.h,uuc11.l penml:> and uupecllu1\S reqt.Dre<l. Progtt:,~ (~luch may mclude foot1ng~fo11111ng.uuuLU..>n et..::.).\n~l
f-in.il ul,p-cction, ccqulred
CLOSPD 1:--cm!PLETE PROJECT
PB19-0G06
fRA: ·cc..-\LE.'\ D & Dl\.'I>; :!2-105 RIYERD \l E
$5,171
05/2:?/21)19
$750
06/05/2\ll 9
$750
06/0'i/:!019
SI l,4()(1
06/ 13/2019
\Vork Desc:ripc io n: \'t:'atc:r dam,1ge ttp:ti.r
CLOSED !>;CO\lPLETE PROJEC1
PB19-073,
RW
TOTil,STEPTI.E:S&JANICE 267U0l~'8MILERD
$:!9().00
\'('ork Ocsc:rip1 ic,n: Demo only of floonn& <lrywaU - no ,trut.lurlll ~O Pl .\NS OR SPF.CS, SUB~UTfE.D.
CLOSED 1--.:CO\fPLETE PROJECT. R\'(
PBI9-0736
TOTl-1.STEPIIE>;&J\NICE 16650WSMTLERD
$290.00
Work Dcscrirt ion: Demo only- no ,irucnml -lloonng and wyv.,!L NO Pl~\'sS OR SPECS Sl'BWTTED
CLOSED J>;CO\IPLETE PROJECT RIX'
P8l9-07\)(l
D'_\,Gl'.LO. MICH \EL & C.\ Z!-11 I \LIPLf.lX'OOD DR
Wo rk Desc ript ion: Tcaroff .md re--roofhou~ .:md g.tnge.
Stop & Rcshinglc accordmg to cootr.tcL T,vo in!peCtiOn!J rt,qwtctl Qixn/Propss aod f"'i:nJ.l. Stop & Rc~lunglt!
Roof 15# fdt kc &
Slucld, Dop Edg,, \"en<>, Fb,hing & l'lungl«. Two uupccuons r«Jluttd, Open/Progn:»
& Fin.!. Roofs und<r-l/12pitch, t•o laym 15# r<qutred Roof, unJec2/12 prn:h,:-.fonbr.uw requm:J. R905.2.7
w.,.,
PBl9-0869
EO\X'.,RDS, DORIS R Ll\1-..;( 21574 POINCl!\N!I
$195.110
$5,-!00
07/~/'1JJ l9
$6,000
08/lJ/::!)19
o rk Dcsc.riptio n: 130 Fr. lnten1d dcin"A~ ,ystem/ Sub :soil J.r.un. ~cw :sw.np ptunp .ind lmt:r
\ \1
CWSED !>;CO\fPLETE PROJECT R\'\
PB l9-1177
~7:!SE..\ll'JOLE
11\LB.-\NY,DANIE'.L
$ 180.00
Work Oc,;cnption: Stnp & R,slungk Roof 151< fdt k• & Water Srucld. Dap Edge \'cnl•. H,slung & Shmglu. Two 111,p,,c:n,,ri,
t<quued; Opcn/Prog,:css& F1ru1L Roofs under 4/12 pitch, two byeo 15# «quued Roofs under 2/l2p11ch.
\krnlmne requtrcd. R9052.7 Strip & Rc.lunglc m:ot<lmg to contract T"v iR<p«tioi" requ,r<:d Opcn/Prog,:cu
111ndFw.1I
O..OSED 1:--co:-.lPLETE PROJECT RI'
PB I9-1799
CRL'DER. 0 C III & \!IO·L.\E 2ll.l06 W:\KEDO'-
$1.597.49
SS0.001
l'.!/ Jl /3! 19
$2,-1-16.00
$133,000
08/ I9/::!)20
$9,.l,l7
02/06/:!J.>'}J)
$7,800
IJ9/28/:!IJ2l)
Wo rk D esc ript io n: Pire rep:ttr 1 '!U\'.>ty fr:une n:sidt:ntial
CLOSED J'-;CO\IPLETE PROJECT. Rl'C'
PB!9-J925
210:?3 SE.ID 'OLE
•\BAY0\11, DORCAS M
Wo rk Description: Interior & E~tcnot ~novatlOn.. alrc:rntions and llddiuon to single f:unily rnidem:c
P820-0l59
S:\.ll EL\L £
:!:llll2 L'sf.3TER RD
$28-1.00
Wo rk Dcscripcion: Tc-aroffhousc roof and tc:-roof
PB20-0219
>;1Cf..:&CO LLC
Work Dcscnpttoru
PB::!0-1008
$993.00
'+'
t'~
•
G& R PROPERTIES& RENC 2:?053 PO INCL-.NA
·
$ 1-12.00
$J.6l)Q
08/ I9 /2!>::tl
$283.CXI
Sl,50<)
l ~/ 18/2!):?0
$90.0C)
$:?5.139
09/02/2021
\Vo rk Oetcriptio~ Remove a1ld replace roof
PB'1JJ-I757
11.\Ll.SR,JOfL\;N\'& PAJIU ~50POINCI\N\
\Vork Dcac:ripc ion: ~e\li b;u.;k porch
PB21-1~27
PERERA, H-0-.\SHWlN-OL--: 26650 SHlA\V-\SSEE RD
Wo rk Deacr;pt ,on: "'Pl.icing 9 cxl<nng .,;,,&,w,
Total Permits For Type: 218
Total Fees For Type: $156,236.49
Total Const. Value For Type: $9,125,491.51
Report Summary
Grand Total Fees: $156,236.49
Popubuon: All Rccottb
Permit PennitT)p< = Bwlding
AND
P<mut Dotdssued Betwe<n
Grand Total Permits: 218
1/1/20 17 l 20000 M!AND
2/25/lOll 11:59 59 PM AND
ProJ"'1) ParcelNumbcr Coolalns
76-24-31
Grand Total Const Value: $9,125,491.51
�Section 32 - Building Permits
•
Pe rm it #
PB20-1788
U,ntr.ictor
J ob Add.rcss
02/25/ 2017-2022
Fee Total
LIO:\ l:\Y£S'n!f''JlGROL"l 2l4778RIDGE:.G
Cons L Value
nil.re JH uCd
$1.33:!.00
$35,001)
02/08/3121
$7,89?.01)
$50,00)
()(,/07 /3121
Work Oc,t1cri p rion: Alter.it.ion of int.cror ~pace for office. ::!J..J77 Bridge- Suite G
PB21-07n
ROBPRTS. ERJ K .'I.
2,HO SIIIA\\'..'I.SSrJ' CIR 105
\Vor k Oct1c ription: hrc rest.omtio11 to Bldg ➔ to the c:ummon ocerui :ind I 'nil'" !05. 106, 107, IOa.2llS,3)6. 207. ::::il8
-\II fee, on 1'821-0792
1'821-0793
CO:S:~T.~l'<TINE, FRAXCES
253-IO SHIA\~·ASSEE CIR 106
$1..~J.OO
~so.om
06/07/21J2I
Wo rk Descriptio n: fi.re ~toul.lon to Bldg 4 Lo the com.tn)n '!\rea'" an<l LT1ur!l !05, JO(>, 11)7, IOR,3:>5.20G, 207, :2!)8
All f,.-. on 1'821--0792
PB2l-079~
SURE WAY HO\IES
r:s:c
25340 S111.\\\'ASSEE CIR 107
$130.00
~50,000
06/07/'.!02I
Work Description: Fire t"CStDtabon to Bldg 4 lO the common-;ircfti an<I lfru1 105. 106. 107, Jl)S,:",,)5..,:),)6, W7, 208
All f= on 1'1121..0792
1'821-0795
HE.i\D HE..\D HllAD & HEAl 25340 Slll\WASSEE CIR W8
$130.00
$50,000
06/07/21)21
Wo rk Description: Fuc tcjU)i:,1tion t0 Bldg -4 to the co1runon a:re;1..5 and l 'nits 105. 106, 107, WS,205,..20(\, 207,208
/\Jl fee, on PB21-0792
PB'.!1..0796
\'.\ S.: .-IJ-'mNE, ERIKA
25.HO SHL\\X'AS$EE CIR 21J5
$130.W
$i0,000
06/07 /,!.J21
Wo rk Dcsc:Tiption: Fire rHloeation to Bldg•ho thcconunon a.L"Cas and Units 105. 106. 107. 108,3,15,-3)6. 207.208
All fett on PB21--0792
1'821-0797
K.\l"SHll-J...7.".\ lAR. G ..\XDHI 25340 SHL\WJ\SSEE CIR 206
$130.00
F,'l,Of(l
()6/<rl/2021
Wor k D<:,cnpt;o,. foe r<>tornuon io Bldg~ to lh< conunon .,..,.. ond Unit, !05, W6, 107, 108,205,206, 2JJ7, 208
All fees on PB21..079'3
P821-0798
TAYLOR,JEROME&D.\RI..r 253-1<.lSHL\"'ASSEECIR:ll.17
$130.00
$50,l)(l()
06/07/2021
Work Dctcription: Fm, ..,.,o,..riou IO Bldg 4 10 die conunon ,rca, and Unit> Ill5, lll6, !07, 108,21.15,2116, 207. 21)8
.\ll t'ees on P821..0i9:?
PB21-0799
G.\NDHl. l(.\l'SI IIKKDIAR 253-IQ SHl.•\\\"ASSEE ClR 318
$130.11()
$50.01.IO
06/07/2021
Work De&cripcion: hrc rc,,omtion to Bldg -I to the <:oou.non ate.as .a.nd Units 105. IO(>, 107, 108~5.206. 207, 20R
\Jl f.,.. on PB21-tl792
PB2l-1463
$876.00
P.\\1JK, ~LIOl \EL
$30,l~I
0?/03/21J'.!I
W o rk Ocl!lcripc:io o: Rep.Un due to full.c:o tr:ec. Rcplaccmcot of roof and brok~1 r:aftcr~ Rcpl-accmcnt of atbc in.~Jatiou.
PB2J-1~3
FELIX BANk:5
22803 Ll!EWRIGI IT
$252.00
$5,800
09/IU/'.ml
$615.00
s2,.1v1
09/22/'.!021
$319.00
$11,670
10/06/2021
$~21.UO
$16,8(!0
10/01/'.?1)21
$375.00
$15.395
10/25/:?1)21
$31,376
l:?/13/:xl:!1
Wo fk Dcscrir,cfo n.: Jre-t:llling (9) replacC1llCO.I windo·w~
PB21-1559
•
AT&T'.\IOB!UTY
2.,,;3 \'\' 9 MILE RD Ant<n"""
\Vork Oc-8criptio n: Du,h Xctv.uck collocalion al ~l'..i.sbng telecommunication f.adJny
PB21-!5R2
GOOD..\U...SANDM
Work Dcs cripc io n:
1'B21-1663
21880 DAISY LS.:
Roor Repl~ccmC'tlt on house
S11':ORSl(J, ALE..X..\..'\DF..R
22309 PROSPER
Wofk D ucripcio n: replace u.i:etmg rQO ( residenct and gi;ar;1.ge
P821-17-15
LA.' IB. KE:S:NETH EA..'\TI D :!.2292 PROSPER
W<J rk Dttcriptio n: tt--!'hlngle th~ roof
PB21-2127
BO\x-\L',X, RYA..'\ M
:?2'753~\?'sCY
$87:!.00
\Vo rk Description: Roof r:eplac~mrnt. ~iduig tcp,tir wJ in1~nor dry"-·)tlJ .and paint due to 111 c:01,ered
cl:unage
PB21-219I
Dl"PRI:. \L\RLENE
21396 PROSPER
U1!!UtlllCII!'
loM ~uffe.red dut to stonn
s-1s1.m
$20,830
12/17/3)21
$3.}1\-100
$150,000
04/':3/:xll7
\ Vo fk Dcscr ipcio n: 1ea..r off & re,.roof
PBl(...085?
ACOUSTIC..\LL\:\TIU.C
2t:H2BRIDGE
Wo rk Oescripc:ion: \1('(Ucal \1"n1lli\1l.l. Facility mt.coor ..Ut. :? hour fire sep11;.U.1on ~ .t.U, rto1UO.tdbeiiru1g pru-ti.rion,,. Rough wall, open citiling,
opt'f'I trcllch / ,md and 6rul ~tions rcqlll.I.'«I.
PI..AX); 11',G SIGN OFF REQl:IRED PRIOR TO 1ssu:--c C OF O mf
PB!7-007I
CO D-IERY HOLDINGS LLC
22223 TELEGR..-\PI I RD
$-165.0(1
$MOO
0~/15/.l!Jl7
\Vork Desc rip: ion: AdJmg 3 antnanas 3 r.Khos and •~red oblang to cn'"ttmg¥run telccom f.aaht}'- :'\o ch.31\~ rn hnghl to itructure .
'-=o ground or d«trial \\--Ork. Equipment modtfic;anon lo existing 1el«o1mm.tnK11tions (:\CU.It). Must compl) u-ith
Ac1110 of 2006. Fmal ,n,p,ction reqw,.,d
PBJ7-0IU
$5.950
S..\L'\MEH,L\ITil&GL-\WS 2S'.?1IOSHH\VA5SEERD
03/07 /21>17
Wo rk Desc riptio n: In.sull 16 \"Ul)1 repl\\Cemen1 \\'Uldov., per oootuc:t.. Fen~1rntion lsble, mu~t be Id, on \\'111(.f..'>W!l/tloors until ~ftcr
ftn:11 in..,,cctmn. Fuul u1.,x-ct1on required.
PBl7-0:::99
UO:\ I'\,'E.'IT\fENT GROl ·r 21477 BRIDGE B
Wor k.Dc::s-cripc.ion: l
4
ru1
$3,0JJt)
$1,500
03/28/21117
B--lnterior Demo
Interior Demohtion o( NO~ loJd be:mng "'-alls., pattions, grid ceiling and/or oth<-r non stnicrut-.J 11rm<1. Required
fire 1\1.trm., 6tc supp~Sbion, t:mergtncy and exj1 bghtmg m.usl be m..iinhuncd Fu,al Jmpecuon ttquircd. :,...·o
occupancy ,sallowed. ~rate pcnrut rcquittd fol" lenanl build out
1'817--0300
•
LIO'- J:\,l:ST\lENTGROl I 21-ITI BRIDGEC
$330.01)
$1500
03/28/2017
\l'()rk Oc-scription: l 'rut C-luterio.r De-n10
I ate.riot Dcmohuon of NO>-: lo:id bcsnng wall§, partJ.ons. grid «ihng nod/or. ol.hc-r 0011 stn1crural Jfems. ~uittd
Grc Wnn., fire sttpptts.sLOn, ~mergency ,uKI exit bghung must be maint:un«L Fin~ ln:f>CCOOO tt-qUtn..-d • ·o
OCC\1pancy is allowc<l Sepcn1te pcnnit required for tenant build ouL
PBl7-0301
LIO'\ J:S.YE.ST\ IENTGROl"l 2HTI BRIDGED
$330.lltl
Sl.500
03/28/2017
Wo rk Ocscripc ion: l"tut D-lntcr:ior Demo
lntecior Ocmohtion of NO~ loJd bc,mng wall~. p-artioru. god ceiling :and/or al.Mr non ,truch.lt'.tl 1tcm!l. Ril!<Juitcd
6re Wr:m, fr~ suppro.sion, emergency 1nd exit bghu.ng mu':'l be m.i.inta.incd. Fuu.1 h1~Uoo required. "o
occupancy u allo1t.-·t.-d. St-pc111lr' peorut required for tt"JUnt build out
PBI 7-0302
LIO:S: I'\YEST\U::NT GROL"I 21477 BRIDGE E
Wo rk I)c9c,iptjon: L'"nit E-lmcnor ()e.mo
$330.00
$1.SOO
0J/'Ji!,/1!H7
�Pl117-1ll0.I
LIO'- I'"\U'T\11~'-TGROl"I 11477 BRIDGI' G
\\ o rk Descript ion: l·1u.t G-Intcnor Dano
lo tenor Dt:tn(lhlJon of NO'.\ loJd bt-.ir1.ng wall!,. parboru-. gnJ ceiling 1nJ/or oth<:r non ,,nictu.rJ.l 1tcm,. Re-qui.red
fin: l\l.1m1.. fire sitpptt~l(.)n, eine-~tC) ~n<l UH hghllng mu:-1 he mainf,uncd. Fm:V ln--pc\'."Uon ttquin.-J. '.\:o
occupo1.n~· 1 allo~-a.l !5,q>c-~te pc:nrut rcc:iuircd fo.r tetU.tlt build ouL
PBl7-03C4
suo.oo
LIO'.' l"TSl"\tr:ST GROL'I 11477 BRIDGH II
\Vo rL. Dc~c.ripc ion: l
1ut
H-lntcnor Demo.
lntenor Dic1nohoon of NO:'\ loJ.J beanng \\ ;1Us,
p;,1,rtK)nl,
gn<l ceiling anJ/or oth~r n,)n •tructur.il 11~1!1'. RN:fmrrd
fire ilirm.. 6re 5Upptt:.ston, emergf'ncy .lnJ t-J.11 bghttng rnu~I he m,unt:unffl Fut#l [n.spectton requue<l. ~o
~atp.uicy LJ .illou:cd ScpetMt' pcmlH rcqutrt'<l for tenant build out.
Pl117-tllO,
uo, 1,YI.:ST.\.[Cl\'TGROU
\Vo rk Dcscrip, io n: l~rnt
1-(oiecor
$1.500
21477 BRIDGC I
~3/.'.!8/:!0!7
Demo.
loteQ<>r Dc1nobtion of 0~ lo..d be-,anng ,ulls. plU'tlon.s. gnd ceiling .llnJ/or olhcc non "llnlduul 11en1 ... Reqt.uced
fire a,bnn. tire- ~rrre.,, .. 10n, emergency ~nd e>.it 1.igbUJ.tg mu"t be m.unt.Mn«! Fm.ti l n ~ n requucJ. "o
Sq,cr:1tc pcnntl required for tc.N.nl build out
occupancy i, a.llowcJ.
PBJ7--0307
:-Ol7lff!ELD
EJC-,HBORfl 253l6SHI.\~ ~\SSl:f\CIR#31I
$3'7.00
\\rork Description: #.:~01•lntcoor :\llcnlion:,...
)\Rf mterior mJ t-ltcnor rcnonUOn'I u dct:u.Je<l on had spec ,hcct. Scpc:ratc P1umbtng. E.kctti..:al wd ~k-dl..an.h:al
pennus ;a.nd in.p«ti,:,m ttqUircJ. Progrt, {"iuc:h 1n2~ indudc foottng.fram.ing.in"Sul.tuon th:.).\uJ Fmal in.specbOn.!r,qui,eJ.
7<M 2..1.1 Smgk or nuJb•4UUoo . mc,b.e !Wmu Ire' required u1 ,n·e.ry ~ m .mJ b...illw~y m the vic.tru~- ol lhe
bc:droom., and c,·tty tloor lc,-cl uidudmg b~ncnt. C/O detect.or rcqwcd in t.hc: ,;ciruty of the brdroom.
s;.200 0~10113.111
$135.(ll
Work Oe1c,-ipc.ion: :'.'."n, Roof• Tear d>,TI to "'-ood. 1hcn ttpla~l' "',lb lk'V. .
Stnp & R,slu,1gk 11ttotding to contr,cl T-.o in.<p«U•>11S tcqW«<i Opcn/Ptogrc,. auJ Fu,.J,
Stnp& R.wngk Roof l'i# felt I« & \\'•t<rSlutlJ. Drip Edge \mt;, lb>lung , Slung!<' T,.,1n,,_cu,m•
roqui«d;OpeQ/P"'8""'5& hn.! R,,of, unJ.r4/11ptk:b. two l•ye<' 1,11 roqui«d Roof,undcr 2/l~puch,
\ km!,...,. r<qWttd. R'ltH2.7
P817.{l59~
B\KER,JUSTI .
25!75W9~0LF.RD
\\ ork Dffcripc ion: Roof te,1.r off .md
SJJllO
$132.00
b'i 10;/3ll7
n:➔htngk .
Stnp & R.,lungk Roof 15# fdt kc & Wa1« SludJ, Dcp Edge \"eni,. fttming& Shingles. T ..-., unpecuons
ttquu«l OpcniProgre & F1n-,l Rout, unda 4/12 r1k:h. t.,.., t..y«• 15# requi<e<l Roof, und« 2/ 12 p,tch,
\if1nbrule ttqui~ R905.2. 7
~tnp & Re.luogl, ..:cording to co,Hnc:L T•-o U1.,p«UOm ttquu«t Opcn/Prog,,es, .nd Fuul.
P!ll7--067I
CH.\'-:OLF.R, GR.-\CE
2'.?811 LP.E\'OUGHT
s-tsoo
$l;GJX)
05/t5/:xJJ7
\\-ork DcK.ripc ion: ~cv. :uding. gutters .nd elecrocill tnm
lo:tta.lbt.aoo of ,,nyl stdtn.g, tom & aluminum trim/ gutn:n pc-t contract. Fm.al uupcctioa rcqtu.rcd
P8l7-'ls:?5
'- JOR,SDA.>s;Ot:&R
$13,S<xl
$322.00
06/07/-:!JJl7
Work Dacrip:ion: I lO' lntennr 1'-~aterpflx>6.cg& sump pwnp to d.ttch. ln~r11.ll:ib00 of 110 r~ct ormtc:oornab soJ d.c.un ~y,tffl\f)er
cantraet "'"gh and foul uupo<h<>l><i r<qWttd 5.r<n~ l'lumbmg pum,I ..,cl ,rupecuoo; ttq10r«t.
I'B l7~)343
n;sl"t-O\', IS.\Y
:?25511 LP.E\'OUGI IT
$:!,(l'.!7
$!16.llO
Work Dc<eription: Stnp & Rnhingk Roof 15# felt fa, & \~·•••r Shield. Oap Edge \ 'all•, H"hing & Shin!1lc
r<q<urcd. Open/Progtt & Fin.I
PBl1-0860
L-\\\"SO'-:, ROBERT
1.."'723 Ll:EWRIGI IT
06/07 /3Jl7
T= tmpecuon,
$3,001)
$125.IXI
06/119/3)17
Work Oeocrip<ion: In,wbuon of 12 x 16 u.:lt built >heJ ..,th Jt,J pad
Zorung c::~UKe pcmut lo mst.Jl a ~hcd oo • conctttc ,lab
and at,1.·,U pt:r appro\:'M pWls.
fuotlllg •nd
final
uupectionttquu«l
P817-I312
on·oFSOl711HOD
=l()BE.EOIRD
$:5.67~.oo
I 90(),000
09/l4/-:!JJl7
ork Dacripcion: Brtxhv.'OC><b ReoeabuO <"..L"fttcl'-lntecior ..\.ltcuboftj .and eottill\A:.bOn of an ek,,ator Foohng. -t..tnd, rough. open
oeiling •nJ final
in-poction,
r<q,arcd. 5p<cwl '"'!"''""'" rq,oru ~weJ P""' to C of 0
24~3() S!,RGE.Yf
$R,.1f.0
$2IQ.00
09/01 /3Jl7
'Wo rk Oc-saiption: TurofJ .and tt-roofhcHl-C only--Gun,u rtpL.ccmt-nt
Stnp& R.sbingk Roof 15# l,h kc& \~,tcT.hidJ. Onp f:.dg< Vent•, fb,hinge· Shingle• T,roimp«oom
ncqu,.=l Opcn/Prog,ns & Fuul R,...,f, wkltt4112puch, n.-o r..,.,., 15# r«r,u=l Roof, under 2/12 r••ch.
~lembouw "-'!"'<Cd R'l05.2. 7
Strip & Rdw,gle .cco«hng to can«•<t T"" bl'f'«hOn.< ~ut=I Opcn/Progn, .. and foul
PB17-!789
:\LUSO:S:_!R. IR\l'-:G
$471.(1()
Work Ducriptio n: Construct ~ deck and suruoorn. f;ooting'!', rough t.nd fin.J t0!>pc-crl()l1.~ rcquattd
$:!,077.00
$1(19,:?:?<l
U2/28/3ll8
Work OcFcripcioo: Rt'1'Jde:nti,J fire ttp.uo~Room by Room Sp«" httt mclud..,l Fite r:rp,aar per ,pe«. rough 11.nd final uup«hnns
l'l'((UUeJ..
PBIS-<121 i
\l\X\\"EU.. TERRJ:SCE/CY: :!2336 UIBWRIGHl
$125.11()
~1.3)0
03/()(,/3:118
;anJ pl.ace on uuru,g L1h. Cost.ruct a 11n1,. 1(1' .X IZ .Jicd on c:rl.Slung slah iul<l c,d'\l,·;dt Zo1ung
coavL..mcc pcnrut to irul.111 a ~hcJ ou • concrc-1c sL.b .s.nd ntv. :ul per appro"e,c,.I ph.1u Fuul Ul'JX'ClWn rtquircd
Wo rk Dcsc-ri pt io~ Repl.u.~ shed
PB13--06S8
LE"1S. N-4.lll.\SIE.L
2..'??2 LE.E\~'RJGI IT
$8.0-17
$2381)1)
1)5/21/3)18
Wo rk Descript ion: Tear and tc•roof hou~ .utd t.tt.a~J gar~
r.. o ID't'«UOn•
r<,quu«l Opeo/Progtt,s & hn,l R.,ofs undcr4/12 puch, "'-o I•)~" 15# miu,..J. Roof, under 2/IZrnch.
\l<mbrn"" ""!'"red R903 2. 7
~mp & R<,lungk Roof 15# li,h kc & \\ .,., SluelJ, Dap Ldg< Vent,, lb hing & ~htngk•
Stnp & R,,hinglc ,ccorwng I<> cou""-L T,.-., m,pectious "'l'"'eJ. Opcn/Prog,.» anJ Ftml
PBl3-<M?
QL"EZAD:\, GANDY
U.o rk Description: Imull
25319\\'?iUI.ERO
~ gft>Cr.llh1r & 1'iln.ut
SHl,314
module tr-.&11 tn
huuU gt:ncrator per wrm·ed plan'!l. hn.J n-,,ccuon ttqus«d \1aun1.t1n iO dBs 11;t
PB18-071l5
RICI!, RO,.\ID B
\\ o rkOcKripc.ion:
25111 W9WU'. RD
$:5?J,0
lot line-..
0,_,30/-:!JJIR
�Stnp & R.C'!!lunglc Roof I~ felt Ice & \\'ater Slucld, Drip Edg<!' Ven1s, F1.a:.hing & Slungles. Tv.·o u\-,,e-c11011~
reqw.rccLOpen/Progrc-t~ & Fin;l]. Roof, uoder-&/12 pitch, N-o layer, 1.5# re-quired. RQO~ under ~/12pitch.
\lemhrnnc te,qlu.rcd. R90:l..:?.7
~tnp &
•
PBIS-0716
Rcsl-ungle ncco«hng lo conlt:1e(. Two ta!lp«tions required: Open/Pn>gteJ, and fu1:U.
$9.260
S232..01
:?2-1 l1 LEE\t1UGHT
.\DA~l~,DENISE
ll5/2-l/'.!IJl8
n ..
WorkDc.crip<iom Stnp & R..h.iuglc Roof 15# f•lt t« & WarerSlucld, Onp &lg,,,·• .,,..
hing&Shingle,. Tu•o m,pecuons
required: Ope11/Progre~!t & hmJ. Roof:; under 4/12 p11ch, N.-o J;1ycn 15# required. Roof~unJcr 2/l~pi~
\fembr:tne rcquirie<l. R905.2.7
PB!S-0897
P!Hll-09:-1
·
L.:\WSO:S:. ROBERT
$24,000
$897,0ll
LIO:S: 1~·vr:sn1CNTGROL'l 21-1n BRIDGE H
\Vork Dci1cr1p11on: ~quired.
·
gI - ·
·
~
2.."723 LEEW1UGHT
07/l l/:?lll8
g
vt
I
$21,0-16
Hl0.00
06/:l5/2fll8
Work Dcscrip,ion: Stnp & Re\lllungk Roof 15# felt Ice & \l'atcr Slueld. Dnp Ed~ Venl5 1 A.t.Shtng & Shmgtc~ Two m~chon,.
requued, Open/Progn·>< & Fm.I. Roof• under 4/ 12 pil<h, two byer, 1511 ""l'""'d. Roofs uod<r 2/ 12 p11ch,
\lc-mOr.. nc rcqu1m::l R905.:?.7
PBl8--0'J38
L:>.lTED CE.'-"fER
Sil 06/22/'.))l8
$29<).QU
:!5700 W 8 \111.E RD
Work Dcscriptioru Fin-works Teut $.ile
fa<nt
PBIS-0969
<1,,,., 6-2(, 18 through 7-6-18
DOLLING, C.\L\1N
S-1,209
$176.00
22321 C.\RLETOS
07/17/2tll8
Work Description: lmtall (4) '\myl repbCC"ment 'Q.'lOdo\\>~.
InsLill windov.'§ .md or <loot per cootmct. Fcnest.rabon lab-le, ttlU!il ~ leh on ~,ndo"'~/dnor,. until afte-r fin:J
io""[>cction Fuul lil.-,:,cc1..1on 11:CfUlted
PBlll-1331
LE\~15, ROY &JOAS ·
$2.CX•l
:?2300CARLETO:S:
09/17/'.!lllS
Work Ococ,;p<ion: ln.sr.>11 (I) doo"'olL
huull \l.'11tdo""' and oc door per con tr.Kt Feoe,tr:1tion Lblu mU!!lt br lcft on u'llldo..-s/doors Laud iftcr fuu1
in<ipection. fin;1l U\..'f)Cct1on ttquu-ed.
l'Bl8-l-158
$176.CXI
\Jt\lE: 10, GEORGE
$4,2f•l
10/17/'.!IJIS
Work D«criptioo: ltubll (7j ,,nyl ttpfacemcnt win.do\\~
I.rut:tll u-indcnr,-,, and or door per contrncl. fene~lr.iaol\ L:blcs must be left on u~udov.,/dooa unu.J after final
mspcctioo. Fm:1:1 io.._,xc-tion requu-cd
PB1R·16J2
$-1,837
$186.IJO
COPEl--\~D,CR.c\JG& D.'1.'-1 249-IO FREDRICK
10/29/2018
Work Dcecrip<ion; Jnsull (6) \.11\fl rq,Ul%,nen.r uindo"':,..
Lnstill \\-,ndow5 uidordoorpttc.ootracL Fene~1ratio1t labbmu,tbe lell on '\\.'Ul<lou-s/doon until :;aft« 6n.J
trupection.
P818-1628
Final mspecuon ttquuecl
ARM.f!.~1O.Gf.ORGE
$21:?.00
J8,000
11/08/2018
$+17.00
$16,500
0l/lO/'.!lll9
Work Oc::1cripcion: Guttc-n.. bathtoom 'im.tny and nks. kitd,ni c.abint'tl and countcrtops.
•
PBIS-1867
DL1K.\, l',\L:L & PH.\N, HO 24596 5-\RGE;,-,T
WoTk Dc1cr1JW]on: dcgtte patch.
PBl8-1896
'il:·.\SHINGTON.J.\\IES O&
Work Dcsc:riptio,:u
PBlS.191-1
p·
~
~10..l.ot.fS
L"9<J5 '-hNCY
51.lll.OO
"
S3.358
01/08/3119
lnst.JL..hon of \'lnyl sidmg. tmn &. alurrunum trim/ guuc~ pei: oonr.r.lcl f-uul u,,pccuoo ttqtiired
$?,700
DA\1:XPORT, LDL\R/DIN. 2:!9'18 C.IRLETO~
11/07/~118
Work Description: R,plocing (10) "iodov.'>
1ruull ll.-indou, .mdor doorpcrcontr..c:L Fcucslniuon lable, mu,t Ix kt, on ,a:indo\\°"$/ck>or1 until aftt'r ftml
m.spc-cnon Fuial by.;pecUot1 tt:quittd
PBlll-1976
$6,000
BO\t,L\'-, R\'.'1.'- M
0l/lY.?/2019
Work Description; Sbo~-cr and shower pan UlSl.ulltion. Es:~001: w.tll q.ilJ h;1\-e msLlllattQO eq,o.5ed. Rl!fflO,mg clq,-all and k-2;,;ng
ui,Uog U1Stall..1.rion.
PB!8-1'186
COTHER\ HOLD[NGS I.LC
:?:!:!23 TELEGRAPH RD
$1.13:!.00
Work 0-c:f!cripcion: lntttior :1hcr.nions- Non-lo.id be-i1ring p;artiuon.s. Rough ,1,all~ opeu c.ciling &
1,t Floor !lhowroom .uW ofbcit
PB I 9-00-15
\~·.\SHINGTON, J.\:\l.ES D &
$118.00
2.."905 '-ANCY
S38,000
01/10/2t'.Jl9
ru,:U in.,,«tioru.
.
~quu«i
$1,:nl
0l/:!5/:?1119
Work Ococ.rip<i.on: lnsr.>11 (2) ,;,,yl n:pl..a:a:ncot ,nod,.,..,.
In,tall uindo'\\"5 mdor<loorpercontnct. Feue-,c.tr-.ul011 LhlN must be kfton "',ndo"/doors until .Eta fuial
irupcction Fin.1lUl.,,«tionttq1.w-cd.
PBl9--0'.).l<,)
LIO>. r:s:n:.,7,[E'ITGROU 214TT BRIDGE A
$2,67:?.00
$t:l0,00U
03/12/:,:)19
$1
03/12/3119
\Vork Oc.s-c.ript.ion: \bin Pcmut PB19-03'J9 ; ln1crior- remodd ofSk- ..\ & B for QI I Studio
PBl9--02JO
1.1O:S: J~'YEST\!CNT GROL'T 2l~TT BRIDGE B
$1911.00
\X'ork Dc.criptioo.: .\1:nn P~nlUI PB19-0209 : lnte-nor ~rnc><lel ors,c ·" & B for QI! Stud.to. Ftts
PBJ9-0135
llt"e
on PBt9-0.:?09
$2.100
HE\U.ETI, EDWARD & fRA 25303 \~' 9 MILE RD
03/26/2fJ19
Work ~cTipcion: frh,u.11 wtn.dov.'\ .lt\d or door p,er con.LucL f-mt:$-lnltion lahlc, mu,t Ix- lef1 on "',.ndo"-,/cl.>o~ unttl .1.fkr fuul
~non Fm..1.1 in~ctio11 required.
3,"bly.lttpl:\Ct'n1a11.1,1,v,dow-,:
PBl?-0012
•
S0l 7HFIELD NFJGHBORH 21909 CARLETO:-..:
S2.0'i<J.O(J
$i'J9.088
IJ5/29/'.))l9
'Work Dcscripc:ion:: Habit.at for HUJ.nm.aty intenor and cxteno·r rct.\o,·.anon~ a, cktai.lcd on bad .tpe:c shceL Seper111e Plumbing, Elcctricid
~1\d ).fcch,mrc:tl permits 11.nd mspecbo1u rt"q_ou-ed. Progre:~$ (uhich nu:y Uldudc footu\g.fmnung.m.sul11uon ere.) And
Fuul an."!""'uon> requu.<l
PBl9.0569
SOl'lHFIELD NEIGHBORH 25360 SHL\'il:'A..<.sCE CIR# 201
$890.00
$39,9<Xl
05/09/'.))l9
Work l)c&<.'1'"1pcion: Rnnodel f-la.btt:U for 1-harurucy 1nlcnor md csicnor reno1,,-..1t1onti ~ deuikd oo b1d ,pee a~e.t Scpenlk Plwubuig
,nJ Ek-clnc.J p<ann, .u1d .n<pecbons requ,,.d, Progre,, (,.l,,,h m,oy U1Cluck fooung,fuurung,m>Ul,noo ~•e-):\nJ
FuuJ~,.n,qui«d.
PB19>)6I I
JlOA'DlA.'s, UXDA
~216 S.\RGE:S:T
S2.~3.00
$7,-i:!4
fl6/0+/3Jl9
Work Des<,tip<iom R,pl>ciog (9) ,.,ra1.,,..,,
lru-wJ .,.-indo,.., IUldor door pcrcont~cL Feo.e-,tr.!llon Llbl~ mu,orfbc left on ~ndows/doocs unul dltr fin:.J
"1"f"'Clmn. Fin..lmspecuon
PB19~l639
RI\ 1:RSTOXE GROUP I.LC
,.,qu;r,;d
25nl SHI\WAS.SEE RD
$2.756.00
Sl'.)),000
05/10/21'.ll?
�\Vork De.sc rjption: Fltt' ttp:ur ~, eul wu3
Plll''-'>6'14
RJ\l:'RSTO:S.E GROll l' l.l.C
S l I 000
0;/30/ .'.lll')
$~)0.(Xl
J
Ot,/17/ )119
$::!..171.4(1
$1YJ.::tl2
07/()2/:lll9
$50500
$15,l)(Jt.1
lrJ/03/3.119
e-;7::ll Sill\\\' \SSE! ' RD
\'\'ork lxscriptioo: ~!'-hu,cfe roof
:!570() \\" 8 .\fll.E RD
Work lx•crir<ion: Fitt ..-orks ,k Crom 6/'21/ -7/(, :ip<cu.l l ",c he,rn,ggr,,ntc<l 6/ 17/ 19
Pl319-089?
SOL'll!FIEIDNEIGIIBORH '211Hls.T.EFFR
\\ork Dcscripcion: 11.Jmat fvr l lurrwut} rq_l:tU' anJ :;cconJ floor "--"lnoJd
PB19-IQ77
COll-lE.RYHOLDNGSU..C
:?Z'213TELE.GR.-\PHRD
~ ·ork Ocscr-ipc.iun.: Sw:1p 9 •nl<T\t'l.ld :tnJ 1 h~'nnd cahle. llUd 3 RRl
Pl319-J089
CHERRY, ,\.
·,c:n.\ D.
:!53"15HL\\\~•\Ssn: CIR
$1.(>'i?.OO
\lork Ocacr-ipcion: \r.1r1mc:nt bwldu'lg, ~tnp MW re-roof {3) OU1kh11~1.:'on.n«h: I \\"iih I ..Jdn.-.. ~ 20 Cnit
\\ork Dacription: Jn«t:ill gcner..tor JX"I'
Pl319-l2'13
llf'P'°'·«I pl-an, Fiiul uupcctioo rc-qwr'C\l
l 11Ut ~.i30U IUld 23504
\luumun 50 dB,. at lot line
Sl.1."\7.00
C~Rf,ll·lFRS,JOSl'PH &JI 'E 21472 BRIDGE
Work Oescripcion: IrutJ\ll mcmbr.ux roof. o,:a el.i-:,tmg .upruJ, auJ gra, c-L
1'819-1387
'.!5319 SHI.\\\ \SSH'. C:IR # IOI
IL~RJUS,G.\11
Sl,Cllle-00
\Vork Dcl:cripcion: Soop and Rt•t·oc:.•f for the fvllm\'lng Jlrartmcnt numbef':h ltll, 10'>-.1{)1. ~•:!
Thuu the- mau1pmnn fur the toDo,"1t.1gadrcs.cs: ~319, 2$3'.!$. :'.!3331,25337.
PB19-1388
T'Bl9-138~
$4<1!!0
23325 ~Hl.\WJ\S.SEE CIR# 103
I-L\N'-1:-.:S.SHARO:S.
~·ork Description: SUl) rnJ re-roof aJ)lltlmeots: IOl. H)-1, 21H. 204 . lam
25331 Hl.\WASSCE CIR# I05
i\1.US. \1CTORI.\J
$1
1r>/J6/)i19
$1
09/16/21119
IM'""'' for 1nul ftts ,., on PBl9-1387)
\VorkDc•cripcion: Stq, t:1"1 Re-roof for apJ.rblknl #'~: IO~. Ilk.,, 20.~. 3l<1 ( l.un pnmit for lotal fen 1sm1 PBIQ..1387)
PBl9-J3'JO
PB19-1395
SI
SLO\UCIKO,BES' & DOI.OF 25337 SHH\\}\S,>CECIR # 1()7
RI\T.RSTO:S.EGROtTPU.C
09/lb/3ll9
ownhcr-· Ju?, 11)8,207,21)8 . hm P•nwt fortoul lcu1son PBl'l-1387)
Work Ocscrip<ion: S..-., and R,-<00(apartmonl
257tlOSHIA\~ .\: CERDl26
$8'/R.<XI
s;o 000
I0/04/21119
$8,C'OO
10/01/~19
Work Oacripcion: Fire Repair/ Rebuild wu1 after kilchcn 6.«. Per oontractor no othc-r 1.nu, '\lo'C'te damaged.
PB19-J40l
SOL'TIIFIELD NEIGHBORH :?2133 l,;EEffR
\Vorkl>«cripcion: Add lkkhh011
PB19-1465
l
VW)i
ts
~XI~
$123.00
$584
10/10/)119
$13}.()(1
$1.500
10/09/3>19
$24?.00
$8,nB
11/01/21119
$199.()(t
$7.0:•) 1/2/U5/)J'.)J
rq,Lw;.cmcnt " ~ , a ;
24::,J;l S:\RGEXf
IL-\NN.-.H, HENRIETI.\
Work Description: Te,r off md rq,lac<
PBl9-l(,00
H51.ll0
reuofhomc v.-h~rc old porw>n of home,,, drmoli."1\cd.. .\ckhuon me
T.\YLOR, PATRICIAJOH:s;S( '213-IO :-;,\NC\
Work Dc.cripcion:
PB19-15~
lo
slun!IJ<
OL\:--:DLER, GR.~(!,
on bad.id, of ruui
2::!811 LEE\UJG~IT
Work Dc.<:ription: 138' ofbuancnt v.atnproofing
PB20-01H
SK \IICIIIGA."l RE!\!. ES'fAl :!-l391 S.\RGE.'\'T
Work l}e,crip<i<m: R<pbc,, r:oof
e-'\341 $111.-\\\"\S, EF. CIR# llll
Work De1crip<ion: :.,,., ..,(I .r-roof on tlldg ti 9 ,mclucb
PB3:I-O<,JO
l''-ITEDCE:S.TER
$1,143.t•J
$-17 W•
0<,/01/:!020
.Jd,..,..,, :!53-11, 2_',:J.1?, 25355) , M•tn p,ntvt. l'l,21'-'>487
SI
06/1'\/':!J.l.'.ll
$,-l'\,027
O<,/"J.l/']f.•'.)l
$2.'\.0(,(}
llR/14/3'.13)
$13,6()1)
08/17/2!)3)
$70.(NlO
08/27 /3)20
237ll0 \~' 8 MILE RD
Work Ocscrip<ion: hcnutk• ,ak, 6/2;/3l--7/7 /:!IJ . •'li,>ro,c<l ,p,ci,J ,.., h<=ng 6/ 15/':!J.l
PB3l-07JO
DZ1E.'-GEI..CY'\'1lU .-\M
Work Oncription: Ga.r.age fuc,
PB3l-1030
ttmo"~ 10d
21238 Ba.dg, UC
2Z',l(l()C,\Rll:TO'\
$951.fOl
rtpla.:c 1,--sndo"'--s, rt:1nJn and rcpkr antcnor fumhc-j,
212J8 BRIDGE.\
Work Dcacripc.ion: lntenor t.kmohton · nnn-litructund
PB20--H152
B& R IS'\T.Sf\1CNT:
25:?ll3 \'' 9 \111.f, RD
$32B.W
\\'ork O«.crip(.ion: Rmlovc- dl roofing on bvtm & suxhJg.anc-, replace ,o,nc d.-u11.1boed roof dcclw1g
t'B:!0-1093
\!I)
HOLDI 'GS LIL
3•J:!9BRIDGE
Sl,849.(IO
\"l1o rk O«cription: Jk\itrt :!.00) ~- {L 8 ,paor LO Door 'f)>.att conli,tcnr "-"Ith ptt'\-,ot1-I) llf'lHO\Cd tloor p1m ~\b\tt foor~g.. . ,-\dde1i..lurn
# I [CfflO\~ room~ u1 '.tbop UCiL 2-18-3l2l All
PB20-121 I
BRJDGEC:O\LMERCP.CE~,T 21130 BRIDGE
\'(.'ork Dacripcion: CommetK""".J kitchen 11»Wbuon bl
Pl3:!l'J..1801
All
$42,(Xl()
tl?/(4/3)20
I (,87
OJ/::?2/3J21
crnpry W-'«hou,c, pk.e
l''-ITLD Cll'-TER
Work Dct1cripcion: l~!Ail,rl'.1n oi onr(l) fu«l·fr\'Ul'k' •\l·rung o\·ec 5outh door \nth .a 'Q.,.n<l panel on ~ach 5llk to bln..:k ...,.mc.l/wl"J.lheT
"hc-n enttrolg/uuing bldg_
PB2l-0121
11.\1..E, UNDS.\ Y
2491,0 fR.CDRICJ,;
$'.!80.00
$J0,7(KI
02/(1)/21)21
$-19,100
01/24/']f.]21
Work Description: ln:,ulhng (If)) nnyl rt'pl;.w;mlnlt 1,1,mJo-.u (l) Doorw.all
PB21-01..t
\L\RTIN,\llCHAELG
\\<ork Description: 13 roof 1nount«l ,ncx.lub gnJ bed, 4 ~91..W ..:>br & ball<'[) m,tall11Uon on an cXbtu1g rc"1dmcc
1'B11-0197
\1.-\RTIN,\UCl·V,Ll.,G
24123 SARGEST
$17700
H:?:?3
03/CJ5/llll21
'.!23:?:? LEEWRIGHT
$40c_OO
$)).<;00
ti,/03/3)21
$187.CIJ
$6,4:?11
04/08/3121
$141.00
$1,039
(4/29 / ~21
Work De.ac.rip<ioo: palJO door rcplacitmtnt
PB21-0378
\fCCJl:i"-ER, P.~TRJC:J,;J
Work.Dc.saipc-ion: Re-roofhosnc&g.uagt'
PB21-')386
P.\RJ..ER. TilOM.\S
Work Ducriprioo: Roof ttpl,&ce:mc:nt for hoU>C" imd g,tr-,1.~
PB11-04?2
SIJ..;ORSJ.:l ..\LE..'X.'\.'-DER
:2:!3<1'l PROSPER
03/25/2021
�Work Dc$cription: Stnp md reroof
PBZJ.0785
FEUX B.\NKS
\Vo rk Dce.<::ri ption:
•
PB'.!1 -0829
Rcn\O'\'C
rcnO\'ilUOn,
$1',:!9?
06/ 03/ 2021
$21 ,IX>l
0<>/ 0.t/ 2021
$608.W
$15,7:5
06/ 25/:ll2I
$608.00
$ I 5,7'.!5
116/25/ :lJZI
$7.;(JJXJ
$)1,000
07/'2:3/ 'JD2I
$182.00
$4536
08/ 09/20~1
$637.00
$ I5,7:?5
0'J/0J/21Y.?I
$578.%
co!!-mctJc onl)', kitchcn,.Ooonng pwu .ind countC'ttop,
RJ\1~RSTO:S'E GROL'P LLC
\Vo rk Desc ription:
PB2l-0'14I
$293.00
Sis'. \l! C HIG .'\."< REAL ESTA1 24391 S\RGF.'\1
Work Oc11c ript ion: lnttriot
PBZ l-0938
2211(13 LEEl~lUG!IT
e:si .. tmg .-,-,halt '.',hingle-,, 011 houat.c- i1nd ~Qgc. .lOd replace v.,th 11ew asplult shmglc,.
~548 SHIA\\".\SSEE RD
Roof Rep!Jcement - Rc"'C~looc .\p.1rtJnenl$ llklg I &
RJ\l:.RSlD:-;EGROl'PLLC
25506SHIAW.\SSE.ERD
~ 'o rk Oc1'cript io o.: Roof.RepLu:cmen1 - Rivc~tOnC' Apartments• Bldg 1:i
PB2l-ltl-12
AD.\.\JS, DE1'1SE
'.!:l412 LEEl~lUGHT
\Vork Descripc ion: \X·.au-r d.urwge rep,1r
PB~J-1129
uo:,.;l',TEST\!ENTGROL1 2l477BRJDGEE
$1,433.1)0
\t~o r.k Description: Intenoc remodel of c!utmg5wtr; Stuffed food
P821 - 1241
BIGGS, A'\:GELL.".
~C!-
2J7;y) CARLETO'\:
\VorkDc.scrip1ion: In,ulhng(C1) repl,11,;ement \\indo""i
PB21 - 132<J
RJ\'ER..<1'0>.'E GROL!P LLC
.:!5710 SHl.e\": \SSE£ RD
\Vork De.sc ript ion: Rrmo"'C' and rcplxe a..."Ph.Jt slungle roof ro deck. h1~l1lll oc"· felt, 1u &
PB21-1330
RJ\'ERSTO:-;EGROlfPLLC
255'JDSHIA" ..\SSEERD
w.1lc-[
!>hick! and new asphalr sh.tnglcs.
$373.00
Sl5.7:?5
09/02/3)21
\Vork D c.scripc iom Rano,·c im.d ttpl.a.CC' •~ph.Jt ~ht.ogle roof to ck"Ck. hut.ill 11e"9.~ fell. tee: & ,ntcr slndd and uc"'· asph:ch shin~
1'821 -1413
:SEGRO:,.J• .\DRUX"-&
~'.:ll:S\NC\
~.300.(1()
$13,71)6
09/ 02/3)21
$171.llO
$i,413
U9/ 3l/ 21l2I
Work De!cripcion: Roof repl..c~nent fot bou~ 2nd garngcPBJl - 1516
\l.\SO'\:-'-"EDOCK Dl \.'\:C \ 2=!78 PROSPER
\Vork Descriptio n: te.1roff and r:e-roofleft front .1nd m11in/ omter froot ofbip-stylc n:,of (hou:iC only), not touch.mgg.m1ge.. (Le-ft from
sand cmttt of Mu:sc/hip--!lt)·lf' tQO( ~-ett dsunJ.gcd in ~tom~ i.n,sun.ru:e i, oovering Lh~ 2 11rc:1..:s :tll outlinet.t). Nt>w
.slm-,gb~ia': gwi rd. synthetic undcrbymcnt., tlashifag .u:ow1<l dumocy, a.nd hos: vcors.(t11 WC!'( IU'Ci13) ,
PB21 - J548
2152/l BRIDGE. STREET, LLC JJ53l BRIDGE
£1,531.01)
$15.000
09/ "?:7/ 'lfl2I
$380.00
$15,718
!0/ 26/ '.!()'.!I
$137,115
02/ 07/ 3)17
" 'o rk D«cripc io n: lntenor :tltenbon for usonbly ai:ea ao:c:u
P82l-1795
GEn!A.'\:, J.:.ATIE & CA n.Et '.!1950 CARLE10X
Work Dctcripcion= Hou,e Alld g:1ragc- roof wtallu:io11 tear off and reroof.
PBIC.-lll6
cm'OF SOL711FIELD
25753 W9 MILE RD
\Vork Descriptio n: Rt-nov;1oon o( Fu-e How.c #:2. Rtnovanon mcluJe~ nev. curt.:1.i.1.1 ,,,all systern. piunang. masonry, Bond w.u'l"ed per
~I.ult Pilo1. Rough and 6nal ""J)CCUOU «<jutr«l
PBl!l-00 14
•
$-I0,000
'-'E\'"° PAR OBA VERJZON" 21537 TELEGRAPH RD
0 1/31/ 3) 18
Work Dc-1criptio n:
Equipttient mocbfsc.ation
10
cri..rang tdeoomrnurucatiortl'> fu.cihty. Mu.st comply ~th Ac:~ I 10 of 2tJ06. Fm.al
U1"})CC1:ion requirecl
PB19- W6
f.:ITZ~l.\N, JA.\ IES
'.?:531 LE.EWRJGJ IT
$2120(1
$8,00I)
09/23/ 3)19
$340.00
$16.383
01 / 1-l/3)2:J
o rk Descri ption: T e:u off .a.nd re--roof on hou~ ool)
PB19- 18'.!8
Gl'll.LAtlME. DESIREE
217L5 C.\RLL.O:-..
Wo rk Oac:ript ion: Roof replact,nenLStcip & Reshingle «ccor<ling lo contracL Two uupccnona re-quired: Open/ Pro~s.s and Fuul.
S1np & Remiogk Roof 15# felt !cc & \'\'at« Sruc!J. Dap Edge \',nLs, H..ltmg& Sbi,1gk•. T..-o in"f'C<UOM
rcquued, Opcn/Prog=, & Fin.u. Roof, unJ,,4/ 1'.! piich, l"-'O la)-.n 15# «qUU«l. Roof, UU<~t '.!/lZp,ich,
~(m,b...,. required. R905.2.7
$657.00
f 2?,ooo 05/ 27111.r:s:i
Wo rk Desc riptio n; &:.cmcnt 6m!h: Demo J.nd add. m:un un .1nd s tern~
PB:20-0-lSS
I 1-\RRJS, .-\RT.'\., BI GH \.\J-L '.!5341 SHIA\\ .\SSEE OR# IU2
$-l(l.00
µ7 500
0<,/ 01 / 20:0
Work D c.,crip< io n: Stnp and .-.-roof on llldg# 9 (mcl,idcs .ddn,.,.. '.!5341, 25349. 25355). M.unpcmtit Pb21J-0.187
PB:!0-0489
0
SPOTSE.R. HELEN CL.A Y-LII '.!5341 SHL\1, .\SSEE CIR# 3H
$-MJ.00
$-17 <;()<)
06/ 01 / :l)'JI)
Wo rk Ducrip<io n: Stqt and re-mof on Bldg# 9 (indudtt addn:,,cs '.!53'1l, '.!5349. ~355J. l\la,n permit Pb:?1).-0.187
PB20--0-l90
1o~c-,:so:,.;.r..:A'11-JR\"-. C
25341 SHHW\SSEE CIR#3J2
$41).00
$-17500
06/(11/3)20
Work Dcscripcio n: Stnp and =roof on Bldg# 9 (w:ludtt addrc,,., :?53-ll, 25349. '.!5355) . M.w,p<mlic Pb2!>-0-187
PB:?0-0491
HOPSON, IID>.'.\ R
PB'.!0-0-192
$-1(1.00
25355 SHl.\W.\.SSEE CIR 105
\Vo.rk Ocscripcio n.; Stnp -:tnd re-roof OJI 81dg# 9 (uxludes addre
C':i
7,51(1
06/ 01 / 3'.120
2i341. 25349, ~355). M.Jlllpermit: Pb3)....(J487
SMI'll-1, L\ \'ETTE "lW IV-t 25355 SHI 11'1..ASSEE CIR IO(,
$4000
$-17,'>M)
06/0l/20:?0
Wo rk Dc ocriptio n: Strip and ,e--l'Oof on Bldg# 9 (mdudcs .ddttssc, 2,341, :?5349, 25355) . M,in permit f'b:))-0487
PB:)).()-193
TOOTL\, , .\SHEREEN
25355 SHL\ \\'.\SS[.E C IR 205
$-I0.00
µ7500
0o/01 / :?031
W<>rk De«:ript ion: Stnp and «--roof on Bldg# 9 (include. ,,klre,,., 253-U , 25349, 25355). ~l.un pcmuc Pb20-0-l87
PB20-0494
AD.'\.IIS,CATI-fERINE Q
'.!5355 SI 11 :\\,'.\ SSEE C IR :ll6
$40.00
$-17,5!KI
06/ 01 / 'lfl'.n
Wo rk Description: Strip and re- t00f on Bldg# 9 ('mcfodes addre,ses :?5:HJ, 2534<>. Z5355). Mam permit Pb.20-Q.t87
PBW--0-195
•
IAC K."-0'\:,J.\\\'.\R.-\ F.\11
'.!534? SHJAl'<\SSEE CIR# 103
Work o ..c,iption: S1t>p and tt-roof on Bldg# 9 (indude,
PB2(1.fl-196
$-11).00
.dJ,....,. :!5341, 25349. 25355). M...n pcanic PbZ04187
$-10.00
POSITI\1'.RE..\LEST\TEIN '.!5349SI-JlAW'\SSEf' C IRll'lll-l
$-17,5ll0
06/ 01 / 3'.l::n
\"\'o rk Descriptio n: St:q., 111od te-roof on Bldg# 9 (indudcs itddn:~ 25341, :!jJ.49. 253S.~. Main peDTl11: Pb:?0-0-187
PB3).()-197
POSITIYE REAL ESTATE lN 25349 SHl.\\\'ASSCE CIR H ~3
$-Ml.DO
S,17,5<X>
06/ 0l / 3)'.ll)
Wo rk Ducripc ion: Strip ia.ml ~roof on BIJg # 9 (include!!. addtts.sn :?5341, ~349. 253:0,5), MJUn pc-n:rut: Pb3)4'87
25.3-19 SHI.\\\ ASSE.C CIR# 20-I
$-I0.00
$47,5ll0
06/ 01 / Zl:ll
Wo rk Detcripcion: Stnp and cc-roof on Bldg#. 9 (includes addrc~~:1o 25.H l. '23349, 25355J. M:un pennil: Pt,:l)..()487
1'820-0746
ORTIZ, EDU.\RDO
Work Desc ription: Bu:JJ
;1
nc"; tufr ~d HJ "I: 12on 4" COrK:JTrt: pJd
$1'.!i.OO
u,t}1
4' x 2-1'
ri.t'll-all.
$4,700
07 / :3/ ?!J:ll
�$1,1,,7.00
21-l211111J, R'1'21
\\:'ork Deacripclon: Jntenor ttmoJding of uc~nt ~r:tce for b.J.cry ~·ullnn .
rB21-028R
:?57'.'3 \\'I) \111 l. RD
.IT&T \10811.lT\
$615.0CI
Anlt'.fln1(;
10,UOU
ll-l/31/3l2I
\\'ork De.script ion: l . J\lobilr ~lup~nt up~.i<le "' ex1,:ttng 1ck·conunuruc.itinn t.K1111 ·, Ritpl....:.it ,qx nnt.nm,1 "1th thrn: nc\l. antenn.&.) "m.l
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Title
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Wyckoff Planning and Zoning Collection
Creator
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Planning & Zoning Center (Lansing, Mich.) (Organization)
Wyckoff, Mark A.
Description
An account of the resource
Municipal master plans and zoning ordinances from across the state of Michigan, spanning from the 1960s to the early 2020s. The bulk of the collection was compiled by urban planner Mark Wyckoff over the course of his career as the founder and principal planner of the Planning and Zoning Center in Lansing, Michigan. Some additions have been made to the collection by municipalities since it was transferred to Grand Valley State University.
Coverage
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Michigan
Date
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1960/2023
Source
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<a href="https://gvsu.lyrasistechnology.org/repositories/2/resources/870">Planning and Zoning Center Collection (RHC-240)</a>
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<a href="http://rightsstatements.org/vocab/NoC-US/1.0/">No Copyright - United States</a>
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Michigan
Comprehensive plan publications
Master plan reports
Zoning--Michigan
Zoning--Maps
Maps
Land use--planning
Publisher
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Grand Valley State University. University Libraries. Special Collections & University Archives
Identifier
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RHC-240
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application/pdf
Type
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Text
Language
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eng
Text
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Southfield_Master-Street-Tree-Plan_unknown
Creator
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Laurence A. Schenk, Assistant Superintendent (Forester), Department of Parks and Recreation, City of Southfield, Oakland County, Michigan
Title
A name given to the resource
Master Street Tree Plan
Description
An account of the resource
The Master Street Tree Plan for the City of Southfield was prepared by Laurence E. Schenk, Assistant Superintendent (Forester) for the Southfield Departments of Parks and Recreation.
Subject
The topic of the resource
Master plan reports
city trees
Southfield (Mich.)
Oakland County (Mich.)
Source
A related resource from which the described resource is derived
<a href="https://gvsu.lyrasistechnology.org/repositories/2/resources/870">Planning and Zoning Center Collection (RHC-240)</a>
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<a href="http://rightsstatements.org/vocab/NoC-US/1.0/">No Copyright - United States</a>
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Text
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application/pdf
Language
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eng
Publisher
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Grand Valley State University. University Libraries. Lemmen Library and Archives
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https://digitalcollections.library.gvsu.edu/files/original/2965eda62346756afc414d0e6d766228.mp4
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Text
Interview Notes
Interview Length (50:00)
Gregory Laws
US Army
Pre-Enlistment
Born June 1, 1946 in Chicago, Illinois (0:20)
Mother was a homemaker, moved to Muskegon, Michigan to work with her father (1:00)
Lived in Muskegon Heights for awhile (1:20)
Neighbors took care of each other (1:30)
Attended Martin Luther King, Jr School, then Lindbergh, then Angel, then to Steele School. All
schools were elementary/Junior high and integrated (2:30)
Finished high school in 1964 (3:00)
Could not find a job in the factories in Muskegon, so he moved to Chicago and worked in the
factories there, eventually started driving a bus (3:30)
Was drafted into the Vietnam War, but refused to go to the war and worked in a hospital (4:00)
Enlisted in the Air Force as a combat engineer (4:45)
Training
Was sent to Fort Leavenworth, Missouri (5:05)
Was older than most of the guys he trained with (5:30)
Responded to military discipline faster than the others (5:45)
Managed to stay out of trouble (7:00)
Enlisted in 1975 (7:20)
Learned how to build and demolish bridges as a combat engineer (8:50)
Was married and had children living with him during basic (9:45)
Housing was paid for during this time (10:30)
Enlistment
Spent from 1975-1977 in Fort Leavenworth (8:00)
Supported other infantry companies, building different kinds of bridges (8:30)
Enjoyed his work, but came home tired (11:30)
Had to qualify with weapons once a year, also was on the M-60 machine gun crew (11:45)
Was transferred to Heidelberg, Germany, in 1977 (12:30)
Brought his family with him toward the end of 1977 (13:30)
Germany
Life was a little slower in Germany than Fort Leavenworth (14:00)
Began building Mobile Assault Bridges during this time (14:40)
Went on exercises with different countries once a year during war games (15:30)
Had to get permission from the German government to bridge the Rhine river, and could only
stop traffic for so long (16:00)
Trained on other NATO tug boats (17:00)
�Enjoyed high morale in the Army while he was in, despite the loss in Vietnam (18:45)
Had some members in his unit that had done time in Vietnam (20:30)
Traveled off base often, because he was in charge of keeping up the morale of the unit and their
families (22:10)
Attained rank of Sergeant (E-5) and was assigned to the Headquarters unit (23:10)
Duties included getting maps, driving the Major around, making sure people went to school
(civilian and military) (23:30)
Could even take college courses via computer terminals in the early 1980’s (24:45)
Took his kids to see the Berlin Wall before it came down (25:15)
Wife and kids were able to see East Germany, shop around (27:00)
Stayed in the Army for 25 years, two tours total in Germany (27:25)
United States
Between tours, was at Fort Stewart, Georgia, Fort Knox, Kentucky, and Fort Leavenworth
(28:40)
Volunteered to help out at the Special Olympics while at Fort Knox (29:00)
Did not go to the Gulf War because he was the only living son of his mother (31:20)
Stayed at Fort Leavenworth to train troops to go (31:45)
Military changed quite a bit since he has been in (32:45)
Much more politically correct today (33:15)
More high-tech military today than it used to be, as well (34:45)
Military levels the playing field, especially for minorities (35:30)
Was respected as long as he did his job. Bullets do not see in black and white (37:50)
Saw women in the field while he was in the service (39:30)
Post-Enlistment
Teaches ROTC in Muskegon, Michigan (41:25)
Substituting in the Muskegon school district, and saw they needed an extra instructor (41:50)
Teaches kids structure, discipline, respect and to give back to the community (42:15)
Teach academics and physical training and awards given for achievement (43:00)
Cannot recruit for the military (43:45)
Program is very well supported by the Muskegon community (45:00)
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Dublin Core
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Title
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Veterans History Project
Creator
An entity primarily responsible for making the resource
Grand Valley State University. History Department
Description
An account of the resource
The Library of Congress established the Veterans History Project in 2001 to collect memories, accounts, and documents of U.S. war veterans from World War II and the Korean War, Vietnam War, and conflicts in the Middle East and elsewhere, and to preserve these stories for future generations. The GVSU History Department interviews are part of this work-in-progress, and may contain videos and audio recordings, transcripts and interview outlines, and related documents and photographs.
Coverage
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1914-
Rights
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<a href="http://rightsstatements.org/page/InC/1.0/?language=en">In Copyright</a>
Subject
The topic of the resource
Afghan War, 2001--Personal narratives, American
Iran Hostage Crisis, 1979-1981--Personal narratives, American
Korean War, 1950-1953--Personal narratives, American
Michigan--History, Military
Oral history
Persian Gulf War, 1991--Personal narratives, American
United States--History, Military
United States. Air Force
United States. Army
United States. Navy
Veterans
Video recordings
Vietnam War, 1961-1975--Personal narratives, American
World War, 1939-1945--Personal narratives, American
Publisher
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Grand Valley State University. University Libraries. Special Collections & University Archives
Contributor
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Smither, James
Boring, Frank
Relation
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Veterans History Project (U.S.)
Identifier
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RHC-27
Language
A language of the resource
eng
Source
A related resource from which the described resource is derived
<a href="https://gvsu.lyrasistechnology.org/repositories/2/resources/455">Veterans History Project interviews (RHC-27)</a>
Oral History
A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge.
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Identifier
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LawsG
Title
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Laws, Gregory (Interview outline and video), 2009
Creator
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Laws, Gregory
Description
An account of the resource
Gregory Laws served in the US Army as a Combat Engineer. He served in the Army for 25 years, spending two tours of that time in Germany. As a Combat Engineer, Gregory learned how to build and demolish bridges, and was eventually promoted to the rank of Sergeant (E-5). Gregory now teaches an ROTC program in Muskegon.
Contributor
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Smither, James (Interviewer)
Subject
The topic of the resource
Oral history
Veterans History Project (U.S.)
United States--History, Military
Michigan--History, Military
Veterans
Video recordings
United States. Army
Other veterans & civilians--Personal narratives
Language
A language of the resource
eng
Rights
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<a href="http://rightsstatements.org/page/InC/1.0/?language=en">In Copyright</a>
Type
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Moving Image
Text
Relation
A related resource
Veterans History Project (U.S.)
Date
A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource
2009-01-12
Source
A related resource from which the described resource is derived
<a href="https://gvsu.lyrasistechnology.org/repositories/2/resources/455">Veterans History Project Collection, (RHC-27)</a>
Format
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application/pdf
video/mp4
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Young Lords
In Lincoln Park
Interviewee: Mike Lawson
Interviewers: José “Cha-Cha” Jiménez
Location: Grand Valley State University Special Collections
Date: 3/29/2012
Biography and Description
Mike Lawson is a civil rights activist who first met Mr. José “Cha-Cha” Jiménez in 1968, after Mr. Jiménez
was released from prison. At that time, Mr. Lawson was in charge of a G.E.D. program for ex-offenders
that already had enrolled a number of Black Stone Rangers, Disciples, and Young Lords. The group met
at Argonne National Laboratory. Because Mr. Lawson lived in Old Town, he helped some of the students
who lived in Lincoln Park get to the classes. In the morning most of the students would work part-time
as janitors; they would study part-time in the afternoons.As an extension of their classroom lessons, Mr.
Lawson took some of his students on a fieldtrip to Grant Park during the Democratic National
Convention where they witnessed police beating up on hippies and reporters firsthand. These
demonstrations helped to remind Mr. Jiménez of the goals he had set for himself while in jail. Today
Mike Lawson lives on the south side of Chicago and is dependent on a wheelchair to get around, as he is
plagued by muscular dystrophy. He is probably not aware of the deep way his work has changed many
Peoples’ lives.
�Transcript
MIKE LAWSON:
-- the housing situation because it was the number one issue of this
town and therefore, we invited Dr. King to come to Chicago -JOSE JIMENEZ:
ML:
Wait, I’m sorry. Go ahead.
And -- I’m sorry. I had a thought.
JOSE JIMENEZ:
Sorry, because I’m thinking that today we’re still dealing with the
housing issue. So, what year was that, basically I was just trying to…
ML:
It was back in the ’60s and ’70s, early ’70s, right?
JJ:
Early ’70s. Okay. And you were just kind of working all over the city in terms of
the housing when you brought Dr. King here to Chicago?
ML:
Well, we brought Dr. King -- let me talk about this first because I got deeply, much
more deeply involved in civil rights because [00:01:00] I was teaching school up
on the North Side. And one night, I had the TV set on and I watched a movie
called The Judgement of Nuremburg [sic]. And that was a movie that dealt with
the atrocities of the German people toward the Jewish people. Before I turned
the TV off that night, there was a newsflash from Selma, Alabama. I witnessed in
that newsflash horses going over a bridge and driving Black folks off the bridge
and beating them. I said, “My God. This is like Nazi Germany.” And all
[00:02:00] the next day, I went to school. I taught in a white Catholic school.
Therefore, all the next day I went to school and I was in great distress. And I had
great anger about what I had witnessed the night before. And very interesting
because it was a young -- the students I taught were all young white Catholic
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�students. And one little guy, [Ray Sandton?] said, “Mr. Lawson, I think you
should go to Selma.” Two weeks later, I left school for about a week. I went to
Selma. And it was through that experience I got involved in civil rights and my
life began to change. [00:03:00] Before that time -- when I say my life began to
change, it’s because before that time, I identified more with middle class white
culture. With the Selma culture, because of the kindness of many Black people
who gave us their homes, who fed us, who helped us get involved in the march.
We began to march in Selma, began to go to Montgomery, Alabama. I went a
few miles, and then I came back to Chicago. But it was that whole entire
experience that gave me a whole different awareness of who I was as a Black
person and also my involvement in civil rights. [00:04:00] It was then we invited
Dr. King to come to Chicago, because we had a very serious housing project
along with educational situation in Chicago. But housing was the reason why we
invited Dr. King to come to Chicago, because we wanted to begin to organize
marches. It was Dr. King in Chicago. We finally eventually marched into
Marquette Park. And if you recall, it was at Marquette Park, somebody hit Dr.
King in the head with a rock. It was in Marquette Park that I experienced -- my
car was almost turned over. It was the type of [00:05:00] violence through the
white population there that caused me to begin to realize how serious was the
racial situation in the city of Chicago. I was scared. I didn’t know what to do. I
finally drove out of that park and returned to a Black church that we were trying to
organize from to march in the white community.
JJ:
Okay. And this was around 1965, 1964?
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�ML:
No, this was around ’65, ’71, ’72.
JJ:
That you were doing that work.
ML:
I worked for two years in civil rights. Then I ran into somebody from Argonne
National Laboratory [00:06:00] and I decided to leave civil rights, and therefore
get a job as an educator in a program which we had Black P. Stone Nation
disciples and Young Lords. This is where I went to Argonne.
JJ:
Okay. So, if I can backtrack just a little bit -- okay, so, you were teaching school
at -- you said a Catholic school. What school was that?
ML:
St. Gregory’s at North Side. It’s no longer there.
JJ:
What address?
ML:
I don’t --
JJ:
I mean, what streets, basically, cross streets.
ML:
Bryn Mawr and Ashland.
JJ:
Bryn Mawr and Ashland, [that was?] St. Gregory’s?
ML:
Right, mm-hmm.
JJ:
Okay. And you were teaching -- what grades were you teaching then?
ML:
I taught high school. In those days, you taught all kind of subjects. I taught
history, religion -- I call it theology -- [00:07:00] a social science course, sociology.
I taught a whole variety of things there. But that was very typical of Catholic
schools in those days.
JJ:
And your car was overturned during the demonstration?
ML:
Right.
JJ:
And to have your car overturned means you were --
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�ML:
No, no, it was not overturned. They attempted to overturn the car. They rocked
it.
JJ:
So it was in the procession basically -- was it in the procession or the march?
ML:
It was driving people into the area to get out of the car at Marquette Park and
become a part of the march, yes. [00:08:00]
JJ:
Okay. So, you were driving people from different churches?
ML:
The church that we met at in the very beginning at 71st and about Halsted.
Right.
JJ:
Okay. And they saw that you were doing that and they tried to break your car?
ML:
Once we got the cars into -- they saw Black folks that were in the car going into
their neighborhood.
JJ:
They rioted. This was like a white riot then.
ML:
Somewhat. It was white anger. And many of the -- it’s interesting because many
of the other whites were part of -- they got the church structure in those
neighborhoods, and they would come out of church and they would come out of
church very angry. “What are you going in our neighborhood? Get out. Get out.
Get out.” [00:09:00] Again, in those days, there were white neighborhoods and
Black neighborhoods. The thing was the whites could not -- excuse me -- Blacks
could not go past Ashland. In other words, we kind of knew that this was white
turf. If you check out the South Side today, Blacks are up to [Kinzie?] and
Pulaski and so forth. Not in those days.
JJ:
So, what happened to a Black person if they passed that street, that dividing
line?
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�ML:
Well, it’s interesting because -- to respond to your question -- let me respond this
way. [00:10:00] I knew of some Blacks that got up the nerve to move into
Bridgeport.
JJ:
Which is Mayor Daley’s old neighborhood.
ML:
That’s the issue. Mayor Daley had the cops move those people that were friends
of mine who moved into Bridgeport -- he moved them out of Bridgeport. In those
days, it was, again, day and night. The people that moved in to -- found a place
to live in, found their apartment -- they were there less than a night. They were
moved out. They could not stay. And we know by fact that the mayor said,
“Move them out. Get them out of here.” [00:11:00]
JJ:
With a document from the court? I mean, how can they be moved out? Was it
the sheriff that moved them out?
ML:
It was police.
JJ:
Regular police?
ML:
And police would not make a decision without the mayor enforcing their -- it was
ultimately -- very quietly, it was the mayor.
JJ:
This is the mayor of the city of Chicago.
ML:
Boss Daley.
JJ:
Boss Daley, right.
ML:
The old man.
JJ:
So, he wanted certain people in certain areas and people that were Black,
African American, could not be in that community? Is that what you’re saying? It
was the mayor?
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�ML:
Well, Chicago, in those days and even today, has Black folks community, and
you yourself know, Puerto Rican community, Mexican community. We still have a
system of [00:12:00] very deep segregation. It’s not as bad as it was in those
days I’m talking about. But you know from your experience today that the system
still exists, okay?
JJ:
Of segregation? It still exists.
ML:
Right.
JJ:
I’m not going to interject. So, you were saying the Black P. Stone Nation, the
Black Disciples, and the Young Lords were --
ML:
In a program at Argonne National Laboratory. Argonne decided like many of the
businesses in those days, “We had better do something -- we had better start
hiring” what they called the hardcore. In those days, if you recall, the [00:13:00]
terminology was -- you, because you eventually went to Argonne, were
considered hardcore. I kind of smile because, in other words, hardcore were the
bad niggers, the bad Puerto Ricans. That’s what the term meant. And so, we
decided that we would not only give them a chance to work, but also give them
some jobs. When I first went out to hardcore as director of the education
program, the hardcore people that we allowed into that program were janitors.
After being on site and finding that the laboratory, eventually [00:14:00] they
ceased being janitors and they decided at that point there were various divisions
at Argonne in terms of biology, solid state science, chemistry. We would let the
young men that were part of the hardcore eventually be trained and do jobs that
were in various areas. We brought about a whole different utilization. For
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�instance, I’ll give you an example. One of the -- [Crip?] is dead now. One of the
Disciples was given a job in glassblowing. He was taught glassblowing. We had
a man in solid state science. We had a man in chemistry. [00:15:00] When I say
a man, a young Disciple or a Black P. Stone Nation or Young Lord. But we got
them some meaningful jobs, some jobs where they weren’t just janitors no
longer. José, you went to Argonne. Were you a janitor?
JJ:
Yeah, I was a janitor.
ML:
Eventually, but --
JJ:
I was a janitor half day ,and half day, I went to school to get my GED.
ML:
Went to school, right. But you stayed a janitor.
JJ:
All the time I was there, I [stayed as?] a janitor.
ML:
You were new. But we had made some changes. But you were part of the
changes.
JJ:
I was part of, I think, the beginning of the program and then I left after that, or got
in trouble and then left after that and got in more trouble. But it didn’t -- it helped
me a lot [00:16:00] [when I was with?] the program. I’m very grateful for that.
So, what were some of your -- what you wanted to do with the students at that
time? Because you’re dealing with the hardcore and that. What was it that you
were trying to do?
ML:
Well, I guess the issue for us was to get personnel and to convince personnel
that the men just can’t be janitors because those were the jobs that were almost
the jobs that a lot of folks got caught in no mobility situation. Therefore, we got
people involved in being trained not only in school in the afternoon but also being
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�trained on the job. [00:17:00] Example being we had [Crip?] trained in being a
glassblower. We had another person being trained in biology, some of the
fundamentals of biology. So, we began to -- and that caused a problem because
there were a lot of Black folks at the laboratory that were janitors, and they began
to realize that the young gang members that we brought in were now being given
better jobs and they were stuck in their old janitor jobs. The other people
themselves were stuck in the janitor jobs. So, that was a conflict that we did not
anticipate and we had to become aware of that.
JJ:
So, what changes did the Argonne Laboratory do? How long did the program
stay in effect?
ML:
The second year I decided that -- I began to see the program was having some
internal political problems. And they were going to bring in somebody to replace
me. And they brought a person in. And that was the beginning of the real death,
quote-unquote, of the program because the new person did not work out also in
the program. And it was one of those types of programs where it didn’t last much
further more than the two years that I was involved. [00:19:00] It ran into
problems in those days.
JJ:
I know that you were wearing at that time a dashiki to work and your hair was
teased or -- you know, the same fashion as the ’60s during that time. I wasn’t
even aware that you were involved in civil rights. I knew you looked militant to
me, what they call the militant stereotype at the time.
ML:
I was given a chance to really -- I’ll give you an example. One day -- I would
spend a lot of time in jails and in the court fighting to get the various students that
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�were part of the program out of jail, out of the court systems. [00:20:00] I can
recall one day that I spent the entire day in a courtroom, and fighting like hell to
get the men out of the jails and so forth. And I returned to the laboratory at night.
And I was asked to kind of talk. There was a laboratory meeting of some of the
folks that stayed around after regular hours, and I was asked to give a talk to
those people. I gave a talk, and I was told that it was such a fiery speech, as one
person said, I ended up preaching. And the director of the laboratory was at that
meeting. [00:21:00] And he was so overwhelmed with what I had to say, he
began to make some significant changes. This is when we began to get the men
into better jobs. Again, I was told that through my fiery talk I confronted the
laboratory director and he began to make some changes.
JJ:
But his changes were to try to get rid of you.
ML:
No, no, no. That was other politics. I don’t think he was aware that some of the
other politics were going on at the laboratory.
JJ:
Okay that was other politics. Okay, so what other politics? Was it just personal
politics, not political?
ML:
Well, it’s hard to talk about because -- [00:22:00]
(break in video)
JJ:
Okay.
ML:
I was born -- my name is Michael Lawson, L-A-W-S-O-N. I am 71 years old. I
was born May 29, 1940. I was born and raised in the city of Chicago, a part of
the community called Englewood. Englewood was a community on the South
Side of Chicago, 63rd and Halsted was the heart of the community. And in those
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�days, 63rd and Halsted was (inaudible) Sears, [Hi-Lo?], A&P, some banks. In
other words, it was an ongoing vibrant community of people. [00:23:00] If we
compare it, it’s like the Chatham in those days or rather Chatham today. In those
days, it was like Chatham because it was a very good community of people. I
was born, again, and raised a Catholic in Englewood. I went to (inaudible)
school for first eight years and then for four years I went to Quigley, which was a
preparatory seminary on the North Side of the city of Chicago.
JJ:
So, you were -- Englewood was a vibrant community. What do you mean by
that?
ML:
What do I mean? For instance, the community had -- in those days -- good is
relative -- but we had good schools, both Catholic and public schools. [00:24:00]
I would say if there was any unemployment in those days, it was eight percent or
nine percent or even six percent, five percent. People had jobs. Black folks
either worked in the post office or in the stockyards or in the steel mills. We
could get jobs, and we had jobs. We had a home. Well, let me backtrack.
JJ:
What year was this, basically?
ML:
I finally got moved into a home in -- I was about eight or nine years old, so 1948.
[00:25:00] In those days, we got a nice bungalow in Englewood from a German
woman, and we paid $6,000 for the home. In those days, Black folks could only
buy homes on contract. And that means that if they missed one payment, just
one simple payment, they lost the house. That’s buying on contract. That was
the only way that Black folks could buy a home. And we bought a home on
contract. It was a good home. When I was eight or seven years old -- it was
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�interesting. My mother went to the [grammar?] school and she talked to the
monsignor who was the pastor of the parish, and she wanted his permission
[00:26:00] if she could bring her daughter to school. He said, “Of course you can
bring your daughter to school.” And the irony of the situation was my mother was
very light. And my sister [Sandra?], who went to grammar school -- they realized
they had their first Black child at the school. My sister was the first Black child to
go to that school. I was the third Black child in that school. There were no other
-- very few, I should say -- Black children in the school until I was about in
seventh or eighth grade. [00:27:00] When I was in seventh or eighth grade, I can
recall coming home one afternoon and saying to Mother, “Mommy, what is a
Negro?” I had no idea because the kids that went to school were Irish or Italians
or Germans or Polish. And there was no separation. I was just part of the group
that went to school. I never realized. And we weren’t taught at home about
racial pride and so forth. We simply understood, quote-unquote, we were to fit in
and that was part of the reality of being raised and born in those days.
JJ:
So, Englewood was an ethnic minority community? (inaudible)
ML:
No, Englewood -- we had Polish, [00:28:00] Germans, Irish, Italians, Blacks. If I
go back and tell you about the Black -- next to Aberdeen Street -- I lived on
Aberdeen which was half Black. Just to the east of us was -- I can’t recall right
now -- it was [Sangamon?] was in there. But everything east of us was white.
There were no Blacks east of us. Black folks were at Aberdeen and the block
west of me and the next block were Black. But that’s all the Blacks were in the
area. [00:29:00]
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�JJ:
So, the South Shore Drive was primarily white at that time?
ML:
If we go into South Shore, it was all white at that time. South Shore --
JJ:
Okay. And this was in 1948?
ML:
Sure, 1940, 1945, ’48, ’50. Blacks didn’t start moving into South Shore until I
was in high school. And there were very few Blacks that were allowed into South
Shore. For instance, the South Shore Country Club would not allow any Blacks
in the South Shore Country Club. Even the postman had to leave the mail at the
front of the South Shore. He could not go past the [00:30:00] gate if he was
Black. Therefore, he was not allowed to come into the place. The whole idea of
race relations in those days was like black and white. Black folks -- we folks
knew our place and we knew what blocks we could go on and what blocks we
should avoid. For instance, I would go to school with some of my classmates. I
recall one of my classmates was [Raymond Lamont?]. He lived on Aberdeen,
but he lived across 59th Street. It was an unwritten law that we should never go
across 59th Street. And we knew that. And therefore, we wouldn’t go [00:31:00]
across 59th Street. I’ll give you another example.
JJ:
Across -- heading north or south on 59th?
ML:
On 59th, it’s just north of us. So, it was north of us.
JJ:
So, you couldn’t go north of 59th Street?
ML:
No, in those days. A little further north of 59th Street, at about 55th and Racine
was a park, all white park. I can recall -- let me tell you about that park. I was
the only Black in the area allowed to ride my bike in that park. I found out I could
do that only because they recognized me to be Catholic. [00:32:00] I went to a
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�Catholic school, and that park was controlled by Irish Catholic Visitation,
therefore being light skinned and also being Catholic, I was allowed to ride my
bike in that park. The park that we could go to was Ogden Park at 64th and
Racine. But I can recall when I was at Ogden Park, we would stand and put our
hands on barbed wire, on the wire fences and look in at the white kids swimming.
We could not even go in the swimming pool in those days. We weren’t allowed in
the swimming pools. Let me tell you -- eventually, I [00:33:00] went to Quigley
Seminary. I left there about four or five years later.
JJ:
So, when did you start Quigley Seminary? Because that’s going into the
priesthood. Were you going to -- [that’s to prepare for the?] priesthood?
ML:
Well, that was -- in those days, they considered Quigley a seminary, but it was a - we look back on it now and we kind of smile. The question is, how can any 13or 14-year-old kid have any idea of what he wanted to be? It was ridiculous to
put any kid in that situation. And so, I went there.
JJ:
But it was still to prepare kids for the priesthood.
ML:
That was the goal, and I’m saying it was ridiculous. It was crazy. [00:34:00]
JJ:
But you were there, you were there.
ML:
I was there.
JJ:
So, you didn’t want to be a priest?
ML:
Eventually, in my fifth and sixth year, I decided to not to go and pursue Quigley. I
went to Mundelein, which was the major seminary. It was at Mundelein I decided
not to continue my studies for the priesthood. That’s when I went to Loyola
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�University, a Catholic University in the city of Chicago. I went there for about
three years, got my bachelor’s degree. And I moved into Old Town.
JJ:
Okay, if we can go a little bit back. So, why did you decide to leave the seminary
and go to Loyola? [00:35:00] I mean, what was going through your mind at that
time?
ML:
I changed my mind about wanting to be a priest. So therefore, I did not want to
be a priest. Therefore, I left the seminary.
JJ:
Were you angry with the church or something?
ML:
No, no, no. It was just a matter of I didn’t want to pursue this way of life
anymore.
JJ:
Okay. So, you went to Loyola.
ML:
Right. It’s interesting because I went to Loyola because it was a Catholic
university. I was still in that mentality of that security of wanting to stay within the
Catholic structure. So, I went to Loyola, got my degree in sociology. I left Loyola
and moved for the first time [00:36:00] after graduation into Old Town. I moved at
1452 Hudson Street, [or 1450 Hudson Street?], and in those days I had an old
beat up car that ran and got me around. I had apartment of five rooms. I made a
hundred bucks a week. I point that out -- I taught at a Catholic high school. And
I point out the fact that I made a hundred bucks a week, which was no money,
but in those days, one could exist on that amount of money and have a car and
pay rent and do things. If we compare that to the way people live today,
[00:37:00] it’s like day and night.
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�JJ:
Okay. So, you’re in Old Town. You’re on Hudson, and also on Sedgwick? Was
this also part of Old Town?
ML:
Right. I moved from Hudson Street further north to Sedgwick, 1752, and it was
there that I first encountered many more Puerto Rican friends. I had my Black
friends. I had my white friends. And I had my Puerto Rican friends. If you recall
[Juan Colon?].
JJ:
Yes, I know Juan Colon.
ML:
Juan Colon and I were good friends. I don’t know where Juan is right now.
[00:38:00]
JJ:
I don’t know (overlapping dialogue; inaudible).
ML:
The last time I saw him, he was married. I got the impression -- I smile because
we all change in life. Juan became a very middle class person. What does that
mean? Unlike the Juan Colon that I knew years ago who was somewhat a poor
person and a gang banger to some degree.
JJ:
Now he’s more middle class at this point?
ML:
That’s what -- when I saw him and I met his wife -- we didn’t talk a lot. But that’s
the impression I got, right.
JJ:
So, you were teaching for a Catholic institution?
ML:
Right. I taught for a Catholic institution. [00:39:00] That was my first -- no, it was
my second job, because my first job -- I used to be a vocational counselor for
people on welfare. I worked there for about a year. And then, I applied to a
Catholic school and I taught there for two years. Then I went full time into civil
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�rights. I became assistant director of the Catholic Interracial Council. I was full
time civil rights -JJ:
Catholic Universal Council?
ML:
Catholic Interracial Council. In those days, the Catholic church in Chicago was
very much involved in what was called social justice. And the Catholic church,
quote-unquote, was a witness to many things in life. When I saw witness,
[00:40:00] in other words, the church through various agencies was very deeply
involved in causes. And one of the causes was racial cause and therefore, I
became the assistant director of the Catholic Interracial Council.
JJ:
They were located where?
ML:
The Catholic Interracial Council is now Superior Street -- 21 West Superior Street
is now a condominium that probably cost $3,000 or $4,000 for each one.
JJ:
So, at that time, Superior Street had Puerto Ricans also around La Salle. Do you
recall that or no? La Salle and Superior?
ML:
Yes, I do recall. It’s interesting. I recall -- since you mention it -- because
[00:41:00] the people next door to us were young Puerto Rican family that had a
good number of Puerto Rican kids. And their kids would hang around the
neighborhood and play. I recall now yes it was Puerto Ricans, around there
along with probably some poor Black folks that were around there.
JJ:
And that area at that time -- wasn’t that a poor area? That was Clark Street and - what do you recall?
ML:
I recall -- but again, when you say poor area --
JJ:
I’m thinking that it was like a Skid Row area.
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�ML:
It probably was. But in those days, [00:42:00] we more or less accepted it as we
were part of the same way of life. We weren’t much different. So, we could
identify with the poor people. We identified it as good people.
JJ:
Okay, as good people.
ML:
Yeah, sure, who happened to have school problems, various problems. The
father was not home bringing a paycheck and so forth. But that was part of our
reality.
JJ:
And the interracial council was working with that community?
ML:
The Catholic Interracial Council was working with that community, and also it was
one of the clear goals of the Catholic Interracial Council was to get Catholic folks
involved in social causes. Therefore, many of our members were middle class
and upper class people who got involved in the [00:43:00] various problems of
Chicago. And one problem was housing. Black folks, in those days, occupied 10
percent of the land and yet they were 25 percent of the population. And that’s
true of -- when I saw Black folks, Puerto Rican folks were also part, in my mind,
of the poor situation, of the situation that needed to be dealt with for equal justice
and a real clear cause.
JJ:
Okay. So, the housing was one of the major issues that [00:44:00] the Catholic
Interracial Council was working with?
ML:
If you recall, we invited in those days Dr. King to come to Chicago -- (break in
audio) that we make some of the Black folks who were caught into janitorial jobs
angry, because the young men in the program I was in charge of were getting
better jobs. But some of the, quote-unquote, white employees also were
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�becoming disturbed because they didn’t want to see some of these men now
being part of biology, [solid state?] science, glassblowing and so forth. So, they
were becoming very angry. In other words, looking back at what we were trying
to do in those days, we [00:45:00] overwhelmed people. We did not spend
enough time educating people, preparing people for some of the changes that we
were trying to make at the laboratory. So, some of the problems we caused
ourselves. It was not just everybody on the outside. We caused our own
problems. You understand?
JJ:
You mean some of the participants caused their own problems. Why not
discipline some of the participants?
ML:
In other words, we should have spent more time educating some of the --
JJ:
Participants?
ML:
-- employees that were caught in dead-end jobs. They were caught in janitorial
jobs, dead-end jobs. And the young men who we bought [00:46:00] out there
were getting better jobs and they were aware of that.
JJ:
Okay, so, that was the politics then.
ML:
That was some of the politics going on.
JJ:
That was the jealousy that was going on.
ML:
And at the same time, some of the white people, white employees themselves -because you spend so much time doing so much for these young people, “What
are you doing for us?” So, they were becoming angry.
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�JJ:
Could it also have been that some of the -- because these were former gang
members or in some instances still gang members -- could they have also
contributed to the fall of the program, because they were not that disciplined?
ML:
Yeah. That was part of it. In other words -- it’s interesting. They weren’t
disciplined, and they would miss a lot of days of work. [00:47:00] We would
oftentimes, to get these men to work, send out government cars. Argonne had
its own taxi fleet in which they would send government cars and then they would
pick up the men in the program.
JJ:
They’d pick them up at their house?
ML:
They would pick them up at their homes. And these very gang members that
were gang members in their community -- once they got in the cars and were
going outside of their turf were scared enough to hide on the floor of the cars.
(laughter) It was incredible. Once [00:48:00] we took them out of their
neighborhood into new neighborhoods, this was a whole new experience for
them. And these tough gang members almost were crying, “Oh, please, please,
don’t take us out of here.” Right.
JJ:
I remember they had golf carts there at Argonne. I don’t know what they were
used for. Like, little golf carts for --
ML:
I don’t remember.
JJ:
You don’t? Okay. But I know that some of the members, the employees or the
participants, would take the golf carts and just drive around all day through the
place, where they would be found asleep in the janitor’s closet. So, they were
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�doing mischievous things too. [00:49:00] That was part of it too, (overlapping
dialogue; inaudible)
ML:
That was for sure, right. Sure, right.
JJ:
So that kind of contributed also. And we would sit segregated too when we
would eat lunch. And sometimes we would just joke around and sit.
ML:
And make a lot of noise.
JJ:
And make a lot of noise, so everybody knew we were there. So, we were kind of
like in a way outcasts. They didn’t want us to be outcasts, but we were, in a way.
ML:
How long were you in the program?
JJ:
Several months, a few months. I never did get -- I got my GED later. But that
definitely helped me -- contributed to it, because I remember we were doing
speed reading and all that. [Carlos?] stayed there.
ML:
And he moved ahead in the program. He did very well. He was very serious.
[00:50:00]
JJ:
Oh, he has a master’s degree today. Today he has a master’s degree.
ML:
Okay, that’s great. Is he married with his own family?
JJ:
He’s not married now. He has been married. But I’m going for my bachelor’s.
It’s taken about 40 years.
ML:
That’s great. And wasn’t [Poppy?] -- your cousin was a part of the program?
JJ:
[William Jimenez?], yes.
ML:
He’s probably retiring now. He’s getting up in age.
JJ:
He is retiring. He had a good job as a supervisor. Yeah, he was a supervisor for
a store, one of the big stores.
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�ML:
Good for him.
JJ:
He’s retired now.
ML:
He’s got his pension. He’s retired. That’s good.
JJ:
So, most of the people kind of advanced. The people that (overlapping dialogue;
inaudible) did advance.
ML:
Now, let me ask you -- how much more do you want from me?
JJ:
We’re almost done. I’m just going to ask you some final questions about -[00:51:00] do you recall when the Young Lords -- you were still living in Lincoln
Park when the Young Lords started, became political?
ML:
Yeah. Actually, I’m aware they became very political but I’m not aware of the
details behind that.
JJ:
How did you feel? You knew some of the people? How did you feel when they
made that change?
ML:
Well, to me, it was like experiencing the same old problems. For instance, at
Division Street and La Salle Street where it used to be a very poor neighborhood
-- when they began to rebuild the neighborhood, they built the very fine buildings
that Puerto Ricans and Blacks and poor whites could not afford to move into the
new housing. So, it was the same old game being run on people in the city of
Chicago. [00:52:00]
JJ:
Basically to kick them out of the area. How did you feel that you knew some of
these members and now they were now beginning to protest, actually some type
of similar work as the Interracial Council but a little more militant maybe? So,
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�how did you feel about -- did you oppose them because they were more militant,
or how did you feel?
ML:
No, I didn’t oppose them. I guess I was so busy with my own life, struggling to
get into business and do some new things in life, that I was not aware of the
details of their program and what they were trying to do. I was very unaware.
[00:53:00]
JJ:
Okay. So, you weren’t aware at all of what was going on?
ML:
No.
JJ:
Okay, any final things that you would like to add to the interview?
ML:
Well, it’s good news that you are doing so well in school. That makes me feel
good, even though, like myself, you’re an old man now too. (laughter) How old
are you now?
JJ:
I’m 64 now (inaudible). Not yet but I’m going to be in a couple months.
ML:
Right. I’m almost 10 years older than you are. Almost, not quite.
JJ:
I’m very grateful for the program there at Argonne. I had just come out of jail.
And so, to me, it was like an ex-offender program. And so, it kind of opened up
my eyes, especially again, the fact that you were [00:54:00] a little political. I
didn’t know you had been in civil rights. But the fact that we went on a field trip
one time to the Democratic Convention.
ML:
I guess one of the things I was very conscious of was the whole exposure is very
much a part of the educational process. To expose your group and you to as
much as possible about other parts of life, what was going on. That to me, was
very, very important. It was part of my responsibility.
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�JJ:
Well, we definitely appreciate it. It worked for us, it worked for us.
ML:
Thank you.
JJ:
All right. Thank you.
END OF VIDEO FILE
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Collection of oral history interviews and digitized materials documenting the history of the Young Lords Organization in Lincoln Park, Chicago. Interviews were conducted by Young Lords' founder, José “Cha-Cha” Jiménez, and documents were digitized from Mr. Jiménez' archives.
The Young Lords in Lincoln Park collection grows out of the ongoing struggle for fair housing, self-determination, and human rights that was launched by Mr. José “Cha-Cha” Jiménez, founder of the Young Lords Movement. This project is dedicated to documenting the history of the displacement of Puerto Ricans, Mejicanos, other Latinos, and the poor from Lincoln Park, as well as the history of the Young Lords nationwide.
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Mike Lawson is a civil rights activist who first met Mr. José “Cha-Cha” Jiménez in 1968, after Mr. Jiménez was released from prison. At that time, Mr. Lawson was in charge of a G.E.D. program for ex-offenders that already had enrolled a number of Black Stone Rangers, Disciples, and Young Lords. The group met at Argonne National Laboratory. Because Mr. Lawson lived in Old Town, he helped some of the students who lived in Lincoln Park get to the classes. In the morning most of the students would work part-time as janitors; they would study part-time in the afternoons. As an extension of their classroom lessons, Mr. Lawson took some of his students on a field trip to Grant Park during the Democratic National Convention where they witnessed police beating up on hippies and reporters firsthand. These demonstrations helped to remind Mr. Jiménez of the goals he had set for himself while in jail. Today Mike Lawson lives on the south side of Chicago and is dependent on a wheelchair to get around, as he is plagued by muscular dystrophy.
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Grand Valley State University Veterans History Project
Oral History Interview
Veteran: Robert Layton
Interviewed by James Smither
Transcribed by Grace Balog
Interviewer: We are talking today with Bob Layton of University Heights, Ohio. The
interviewer is James Smither of the Grand Valley State University Veterans History
Project. Okay Bob, start us off with some background on yourself and to begin with, where
and when were you born?
Veteran: I was born in Madison, Indiana on August 24th, 1946.
Interviewer: Okay. Did you grow up there or did you move around?
Veteran: Lived there until, I think, 12 years old. My father worked for a military—government
facility there at Jefferson Proving Ground. He was laid off in 1957. We had to move to Ohio. He
worked in Dayton, Ohio. I grew up in a small town west of Dayton, Ohio. Eaton, Ohio, a town of
5000 people.
Interviewer: Okay. And, did you finish high school there?
Veteran: Graduated high school in 1964, yes.
Interviewer: Okay. And what did you do after you finished high school?
Veteran: Well, my freshman year in fact, I went—freshman year of college, I spent at the
University of Arizona, where I thought I was going to be an architect but they quickly disabused
�me of that notion. And I didn’t see the sense in staying in Arizona, paying out of state tuition, so
I transferred to Ohio University.
Interviewer: Okay. Alright, and then was that a school that had a required ROTC program
in it?
Veteran: It did not. It did not. Interestingly, I think, the reason I ended up in ROTC was the
University of Arizona, which did require ROTC and so, in the fall of…what? Fall of ’66, I heard
at Ohio University—I was reading about this thing called Vietnam and I just had the sense that
another 2 or 3 years, it might still be happening and if I was going to go in the service, I might as
well go as an officer rather than wait to be drafted. So, had I gone to Ohio University as a
freshman, I am guessing I would not have gone into ROTC. But the fact that I went to Arizona,
they changed my life in that regard. (00:02:05)
Interviewer: Okay. And now, what did ROTC training actually consist of in those days?
Veteran: Oh crap—what do I remember…It was a lot of classroom work. Military histories and
that kind of stuff. There was drill once a week. There was a 6 or 8-week sort of basic training
between junior and senior years. And that was, you know, as much as I remember.
Interviewer: Okay. Now, what did they do for the basic training? Did you actually go to the
basic training base or did they just—
Veteran: Yeah, I went to a place called Indiantown Gap, Pennsylvania, which I think was an old
World War 2 camp, really. And I, it was—I don’t remember… later in life I commanded a basic
training company for a while and in comparing the two, it was kind of basic training. But again,
there was an emphasis there on leadership skills, so each day, a new cadet was the acting platoon
leader or he was acting squad leader, something like that. So, we are moved in and out of
�leadership positions and graded on those days when we were in leadership positions. And it was
marksmanship…I guess the major thing I remember is the marksmanship training, the 82nd
Airborne were the cadre for that. A lot of them had either served in Vietnam already or had been
in the Caribbean, or the 82nd Airborne excursion down into…
Interviewer: Dominican Republic.
Veteran: Dominican Republic, yeah. So, you saw these crack troopers with their airborne wings
and CIB above it. Good-looking troops.
Interviewer: Okay. Was there much of an anti-war movement going on at Ohio U in those
days?
Veteran: Well, of course there was, yeah. Of course there was. Ohio U is a pretty liberal school. I
don’t think it was beyond the average. I mean, but there was a, you know, strong anti-war
movement and teach-ins and that sort of thing. And I remember Dean Rusk coming to speak on
campus and a huge walk-out was staged. That sort of thing. (00:04:26)
Interviewer: Okay. Now, how—did any of that kind of touch on you as an ROTC cadet? I
mean, did people treat you differently? Or…were you…did you just feel a little bit outside
of things?
Veteran: I don’t think—I mean, within my circle of friends, no.
Interviewer: Okay.
Veteran: And my circle of friends includes some anti-war people. A friend of mine became a
conscientious objector. But I—but that’s what a university is supposed to be: you have divergent
views and divergent interests and people and you mix together and try to—try to coexist with
�that. You know, if I get political, it’s what we have today: one seems to be on one side of the
fence or the other, nothing in the middle.
Interviewer: Yeah.
Veteran: Yeah, I didn’t have—I didn’t have any trouble in that regard, being in the ROTC.
Interviewer: Alright. Now, when did you graduate from college?
Veteran: March, 1969.
Interviewer: Okay. So, you were in school and then in 1968—would summer of ’68 be when
you had your summer training then?
Veteran: Actually, I had mine in ’67.
Interviewer: Okay. Alright, but you’re in school in ’68 so what did you—what went on on
your campus in ’68? Because you had various assassinations and all that kind of thing.
Veteran: I think—the assassination of King and then the assassination of Kennedy had profound
impact on the campus at Ohio University. I don’t recall classes being cancelled or anything but I
know that there were, you know, there were just gatherings and activities and…I mean, and
rightly so. Rightly so. I mean, that was also—I remember watching Johnson’s…Johnson’s
address to the nation when he said I will not run again. I mean there was a lot of activity, a lot of
political activity going on at that time. It was impossible to ignore it. Absolutely. (00:06:36)
Interviewer: Alright. Okay, so now you get into ’69 and now you graduate and so now it’s
time for you to report for duty.
Veteran: Right.
�Interviewer: So, what happens next? You graduate from school, now what?
Veteran: I graduated and I had—I received a commission and orders at the same time. And two
weeks later, I reported to Fort Benning, Georgia for the infantry officer’s basic course.
Interviewer: Okay. And what does that consist of?
Veteran: Well, first let me note, a little historical note, when I reported to Fort Benning on the
appointed day, the guards at the gate told me that the post was closed for the day. You can come
back tomorrow. I had assumed Vietnam had surrendered because they knew I was on the way,
right? But it turned out, interestingly enough, my first day in the Army it was the official day of
mourning for Dwight Eisenhower, who had died just a few days previously. So, in fact, literally
my first day in the Army, I was sent home. But the next day, you know, the war continued. So,
the infantry officer basic course, again a lot of leadership skills and a lot of tactics, a lot of map
and compass land navigation, familiarization with a lot of different weapons systems, probably
classes on such things as logistics, military law, stuff like that which is—I have long since
forgotten. But it was—and it, and really, it was—for me it was the transition you know again,
from a fairly liberal campus to suddenly now we are in the Army fulltime and there’s no doubt,
you know, what’s ahead of me and so it was…There was a mind change going on there also, you
know, getting—getting geared up for what was going to be going on. That was just what I was
going through personally. Getting geared up for the fact we are in the Army and we are headed
for Vietnam. (00:08:43)
Interviewer: Okay. Is this where really sort of heavy-duty discipline sets in as opposed to
ROTC? Or had you learned the way the Army did things already?
�Veteran: Not totally. Not totally. There was…But you know, it was not, it was training but it was
not training in the sense of—it was called infantry officer basic course but it was not basic in the
training sense. We were officers so you know, we were treated with a certain amount of respect,
they say the old OCS candidates didn’t have. We’d have classes in what was called Building 4,
affectionately known as Bedroom 4. And during the breaks, the officers would go out and get a
cup of coffee. And while we were getting our coffee, we’d see the OCS candidates braced
against the wall—that was their break. So, you know, as an officer we—you know, we had—we
didn’t have the discipline those guys went through.
Interviewer: Okay.
Veteran: At all.
Interviewer: Alright. So, how long did you spend in the basic course?
Veteran: I think it was 9 weeks.
Interviewer: Okay. And what did they do with you once you are through with that?
Veteran: Well, when I was there, I volunteered for jump school and ranger training. So, I
graduated from the basic course and I think I had a couple weeks of down time and then went to
jump school which was 3 weeks.
Interviewer: Was that at Fort Benning or…? (00:10:12)
Veteran: At Fort Benning, yeah.
Interviewer: Alright. Alright, now parachuting was kind of going out of vogue at that
point. I mean, I guess you did—I guess rangers still did it. Unless—
�Veteran: I think the Army always wanted it. Yes, it still was out of—certainly we did not have
airborne units jumping in Vietnam. I think for the Army though, I don’t think it would ever go
out of vogue because it’s sort of a confidence building thing and it sort of shows that you know,
here’s a guy that’s a hard charger. And so, I think, I—my personal belief is that the Army will
probably always have a parachute unit because they want that kind of personnel.
Interviewer: Right.
Veteran: Personality. And for me it was, it was—I loved it. It was fun. It really was.
Interviewer: Alright. So, how did they work you up to jumping out of an airplane?
Veteran: I think the…I think the—I think the cadre jump school were the best psychiatrists or
psychologists in the world because they spent two weeks—first of all, there was two weeks of
intense training but it was two weeks of very purposeful training. There was no harassment for
the sake of harassment, because in the third week, you’re going to be 1,200 feet above the
ground jumping out of an airplane. So, there was no screwing around with you just to do that.
Everything was for a purpose. And if you’re not paying attention, they are on you right away
because, you know, there’s no fooling around here. And they were great at just building your
confidence and building your desire. I mean, by the time I got in the airplane to jump, literally I
would have pushed my mother out of the way to get out the door. I wanted to jump and I think—
I don’t think I was alone in that. They fire you up to go. And they are very good at it. And I
enjoyed going. I enjoyed doing the—I did not find jump school to be that difficult physically.
And I did enjoy jumping.
Interviewer: Yep. Okay. So, that’s sort of like 3 weeks. And now ranger school comes after
that but that’s a little bit different. (00:12:30)
�Veteran: Ranger school is hell. Yeah, I had, again I had another couple of weeks off, whatever.
And then I went through ranger class 70-2 in the year of 1970 which I think we started in
September of ’69. Ranger training was the best thing I ever did. It wasn’t by any means fun but it
was the best thing I ever did because of the training that I received while in ranger school.
They—it is…It is fully geared for small unit combat leaders. And that’s all you do for 9 weeks.
And there is harassment there and that’s purposeful. There’s harassment in the sense that when
you are in the field training, you get one meal, one C ration a day. And your day goes anywhere
from 18 to 19-20 hours. That will continue for 2-3 weeks sometimes. And the idea is really, it is
just to—to put you under pressure, to see how you react under pressure. As they would say, they
can’t shoot at you so the best thing they can do to find out what you’re made of is just not feed
you or not let you sleep, see how you deal with tension, and how you deal with stress. Can you
function? And it was constantly patrolling, constantly out in the field, map and compass. And so,
you learn to navigate over land which is something that came in very handy in Vietnam. And you
learn…You learn that you have a lot more in you than you would have ever thought. You know,
at the point you think you want to quit, no you got another three days in you easily. You don’t
know that, but they’ll get it out of you. And it was—it was absolutely the best training in the
world. And the—frankly, I knew officers who did not go to ranger school and I never understood
why they didn’t, because I would have—I would have felt…I did not think that the infantry
officer basic course, while on paper I graduated from that, qualified me to lead a platoon in
Vietnam. I didn’t think so. Okay? I felt that I needed everything I could get and I wanted that
ranger training. (00:15:03)
Interviewer: Okay. Now, what kind of terrain were you in for ranger training?
�Veteran: Depended—well, there are three phases when I went through. Well, there was a phase
at Fort Benning, Georgia. Camp Darby, where we did a lot of the preliminary—we did a lot of
PT in Darby. There was a lot of—every morning was an obstacle course through—where we had
a low crawl through freshly watered-down Georgia clay, which was just as slick as oil. And after
that, when you got enough of the stuff on your hands, then you start doing those ladders. And
you can’t hang onto them, right, and then you fall into the water and then you keep going. And
we had a lot of—we had the I guess what we would call the orient training courses where you
start out with a map and a compass and you have to find the stake in the woods 3000 meters that
way and then there would be instructions that say go find this other thing. So, we had the nav—
the land navigation courses. And you did that with your ranger buddy at night, which was an
interesting…interesting course. And there were other classes at Camp Darby. We were pulled
together one time administratively because of some order that was issued, some very high-level
command that was supposed to go to all of the officers in the Army and so they even broke us
out. I think it was the only break we had from ranger training where we actually, you know, not
just hard charging ahead. And I remember…Well, I’ll tell you. My ranger school started—it
started maybe 3 or 4 days after Armstrong landed on the moon, because I remember watching
the moon landing in my motel room. And when we had this get together for this Army whatever
sort of thing it was for all the officers, we got an update on what was going on with the guys
going back to the moon or not to... But we—so, Camp Darby was really a lot of almost
preliminary stuff. We went to Dahlonega, Georgia—northern Georgia for a lot of—we did
mountaineering there, a lot of repelling and that sort of stuff. And a lot of patrol. Just patrol,
patrol, patrol through northern Georgia. Up the hills, down the hills, along the ridgelines. And we
completed that. You come back to Fort Benning, you get about an 8-hour break and then we
�were down at Eglin Air Force Base in Florida for the jungle phase of ranger school. And again,
more patrols. More patrols. We did a riverine assault, I think they called it, where we actually
were loaded onto Navy landing craft and did an assault on the—to the beaches. And then one
day, we were called together. And they started calling out names. And if your name was called, it
turned out, you went over there, it turned out you didn’t pass. And those guys—those guys had
just gone through the 9 weeks of hell and they didn’t have the grades to get the ranger tab. And
they found out on the next to the last day they didn’t graduate from ranger school, which…just
one of the toughest cuts you ever see in your life. And the rest of us then had one more day of
ranger school and it was all what they called administrative. There was no patrolling for grades
anymore. And so, we were—we were getting ready to go back out and I was a cigarette smoker
at the time and I was out of smokes. And my ranger buddy—you go through ranger school with a
ranger buddy and the two of you are supposed to be closer than husband and wife for that 9-week
period. You each depend on the other to keep going. And I was out of cigarettes and I saw Joe
throwing a couple packs of cigarettes in his rucksack. And I said, “Joe, I am out of cigarettes. Let
me have a pack to get me through this.” And he said, “No, I need these.” And I said, “Joe, we
only got one more day. What’s this all about?” He says, “They’re lying to us, Bob. They’re not
going to let us out of here.” So, I think I finally got a couple of smokes from him. But I
remember that: “They’re lying to us.” (00:19:56)
Interviewer: Alright. Well, I take it in the end they were not lying to you?
Veteran: No, we graduated the next day. They brought us in, we had a graduation ceremony out
on some abandoned runway up at Eglin Air Force Base. And they came by with a safety pin and
ranger tab and put it on your shoulder. And then we had…We had like this picnic. Barbeque, all
that kind of stuff. Beer. And we spent the night at that, on that airstrip in those, you know,
�Quonset huts. And I remember, I don’t know, it was maybe 3 or 4 in the afternoon or whatever.
The sun is kind of starting to set. And I remember walking to this Quonset hut and you see the
sun filtering through those windows and you see the dust floating. You know what I am talking
about? And we are all so exhausted that literally you hit that bunk and you are asleep in no time.
And I would see guys, and it was almost like walking into a morgue because guys had gone and
you know, fallen asleep before I got there and they just however they hit, that’s how they lay.
You know? It was an eerie feeling, you know? And 5 seconds later, I was one of them, you
know? So, we spent the night then at Eglin and then the next day, they took us back to Fort
Benning. We processed out but we had to spend a second night at Fort Benning. And one of the
things we were told was that literally they wanted us to get two good nights of sleep before we
left the post because they didn’t want us driving down the road and falling asleep and killing
ourselves or someone. So, the second night at Fort Benning. I had some leave. I went home. And
then I was assigned. My assignment was Fort Leonard Wood, Missouri. I went out there and go
there I guess in October of 1969. And I was assigned as a training officer for a basic training
company. And maybe three weeks after I was there, the company commander, who was a first
lieutenant, his tour was up. He was out of the Army and they had no officers. And so, as the
second lieutenant, I became the commanding officer of Echo company, 5th battalion through
training brigade. And I was the smartest company commander on the post because when they
said I was in command, I got the drill sergeants together and I said, “You guys know what you’re
doing. You’ve been doing it for a long time. Keep doing it and I will stay out of your way.” And
that made all the sense in the world to me and so that’s what I did for the next…I guess until the
end of January 1970, when I had to—I left there and had my orders to Vietnam. (00:23:04)
�Interviewer: Alright. And so now—now, do you get…Do they give you another leave? Or,
because—
Veteran: Yeah, I had 30 days leave.
Interviewer: Okay.
Veteran: Before going to Vietnam.
Interviewer: And then when they sent you to Vietnam, how did they get you to Vietnam?
Veteran: The Via Panama. I went to—I was assigned to the jungle operations school down
in…was it Fort Howard, I think? In Panama. Which was kind of nice because first of all, Fort
Leonard Wood in the winter was called Little Korea, and with reason. And I really think, I mean
after ranger school, there was nothing that I really learned in jungle ops. But I think—I really
think it might be just acclimation. But I got there and found maybe 10 or 12 guys that I had gone
through jump school and ranger school with and so we kind of partied it up for 2 weeks in
Panama and drank every night and got up the next morning and went through the training and
then drank again every night. We weren’t the most serious students at the time, I must admit. But
again, there was nothing new for us to learn down there and so…But it was good to see those
guys again. (00:24:12)
Interviewer: Right
Veteran: So, I went there for 2 weeks. Then to Travis Air Base in San Francisco and then to
Vietnam.
Interviewer: Okay. And did they put you on a military aircraft or charter?
Veteran: American Airlines.
�Interviewer: Okay. Alright. Remember where you stopped on the way over?
Veteran: Hawaii.
Interviewer: Okay. And did you get off or…?
Veteran: Go surfing? No. We got off—while they refueled us—we got off the plane. I think
technically I could say I was—have been in Hawaii but I didn’t touch the ground I guess, just
standing on the tarmac for some air while they refueled.
Interviewer: Alright. Okay. Alright, and then where do you land in Vietnam?
Veteran: Tan Son Nhut.
Interviewer: Okay. And what’s you first impression of Vietnam when you get there?
Veteran: My first impression was…The door opened and I saw these guys behind a wall. They
are screaming and yelling because the bird I took in was the bird they were going to take out.
And they were very, very happy to see their freedom bird. I think…And I think to me there was,
again there was—getting off that plane, there was a reality that sets in because there’s no way out
of this now, until the end of your tour. You know? And there’s no dodging what’s going to be
coming next. So, there was a harsh—to me there was a harsh reality that okay, you’re here now.
You know? And all the games are over.
Interviewer: Okay. So, when did you actually arrive in Vietnam? (00:25:49)
Veteran: It was the end of March. I am not sure of the exact of the day. It was the end of March,
1970.
Interviewer: Alright. Now, did you have orders for a unit yet? Or were you going to go find
them?
�Veteran: No. No. I was—we were given…we were given 3 options or 3 choices. And then, of
course this being the Army, none guaranteed. And I was somewhat of a mercenary at heart, I
guess. My first choice was 173rd Airborne Brigade because they were still in jump status. And I
figured if I am going to be there, at least get the extra money. My second choice was 101st
Airborne Division. My third choice was the Cav. And I went to the 101st. (00:26:33)
Interviewer: Alight. And how long did it take to sort that out?
Veteran: I think just a day or two.
Interviewer: Okay. Alright, now where was the 101st at that time?
Veteran: North—I Corps.
Interviewer: Okay.
Veteran: I flew into Phu Bai.
Interviewer: Did they still have a base back a Bien Hoa that you were allowed to go
through or do you just go up to Phu Bai?
Veteran: The 101st? No, I went straight to Phu Bai.
Interviewer: Okay. And once you got there, did they give you any kind of orientation
before putting you through?
Veteran: Yeah, there was. I think it was 4 or 5 days, something like that. It was called Screaming
Eagle Replacement Training—SERTs.
Interviewer: Yeah.
�Veteran: And that was…I really don’t remember a whole lot about the actual training we had
there. I remember—I remember a conversation I had with a chopper pilot when I was going
through SERTs. And I, again I, you know…He probably sensed that there was a second
lieutenant that was shaky on his feet. This guy was coming back from his second tour. He was a
Huey pilot. And I remember we had a conversation one day and it was a really good
conversation. Very reassuring. He—because he told me, he said—he said, “I don’t think you can
get yourself into a situation” he said, “As long as we have communication back and forth, I don’t
think you can get yourself into a situation where we can’t work something out for you.” And I
remember…That’s probably the major thing I remember from SERTs, is just…You know, you
just sort of get a feeling of confidence again that you know, okay this is doable. You know, other
people have done it. It was—it was just a very reassuring conversation I remember having with
this guy. I don’t remember his name or anything but it was a good conversation. It helped me.
(00:28:12)
Interviewer: Okay. Alright, you go through that. Now, what unit are you assigned to?
Veteran: Bravo Company 2nd Battalion 501st infantry.
Interviewer: Alright. And where were they at the time you joined them?
Veteran: They were maybe a mile south of a firebase called Ripcord.
Interviewer: Alright.
Veteran: A place we called Reup Hill because it was…it was a very active area. And a lot of
people were re-enlisting. I shouldn’t say a lot. There were people who were re-enlisting to get
out of the field because it was a very hot area. And there was a section there called Reup Hill that
�had been a source of contention, let’s just say, once or twice between the U.S. and the North
Vietnamese.
Interviewer: Alright. And so, how do they get you out to the unit?
Veteran: Chopper.
Interviewer: Okay. Do you remember anything about that particular ride?
Veteran: No. I remember I…I flew out with a light colonel, a lieutenant colonel. I am not—I
don’t remember who it was. We went to a firebase. I don’t know if it was Ripcord or not. And I
was there for just a few minutes and then there was another chopper that took me out. Out to
where Bravo Company was. I landed, introduced myself to the company commander. My
platoon sergeant came over with the squad leaders and met them. I remember one of my guys,
one of the guys in my platoon saying that they had—well, they had been waiting and they had
killed a trail watcher and he was over by the side of the LZ. And he had asked me if I wanted to
go see him? And I remember just declining because I remember just thinking to myself, well
there will probably be a few more of these in the future so I will just wait until it happens. But
that’s, you know. So, I was on the ground. You know? (00:30:10)
Interviewer: Alright. Now, were you—was the man you were replacing, was he still there?
Or…?
Veteran: No, he was now the company executive officer.
Interviewer: Okay. And so, was he back in the base camp then?
Veteran: He was back in Phu Bai, yep.
Interviewer: Okay.
�Veteran: I met him, in the course of things though, yes.
Interviewer: Alright. And who was your company commander?
Veteran: Full name Robert Stanton.
Interviewer: Okay. And were you with him long or did he rotate out?
Veteran: For about 3 months. 3 months, 4 months.
Interviewer: Alright. And I guess, what kind of…What did you do? You joined your
company, your platoon basically, what did you do or how did you approach them when you
joined them?
Veteran: Well, I joined the company. It was probably mid to late afternoon. We were getting
ready to leave the LZ. My first conversations with the 3 squad leaders, I said—introduced myself
to them, told them who I was. And I had had, when I was at Fort Leonard Wood, I’d had some
bad experiences with NCOs. And so, I…And I told these guys that the only thing I expected of
them really was be truthful with me. Because I had some bad experiences with NCOs before.
They were lying to me and bad things happened. And I said, “You know, I am not here to make a
career off your back or anything like that. But, you know, we just have to be truthful with one
another and we will start everything from there.” That was my first relationship with those guys.
Interviewer: Alright. And so now you head off the firebase. You go out and settle in for the
night—
Veteran: Oh, off the landing zone.
Interviewer: Okay, so it’s an LZ not a firebase?
Veteran: Yeah.
�Interviewer: Okay. And then you make a night—make a night decision somewhere?
(00:32:08)
Veteran: We set up—we had, when I had landed it was—the company, the whole company was
there. My platoon and the company CP, command post, moved off the landing zone in one
direction. 2nd and 3rd platoons went another direction. We set up a night position and the
commanding officer told me that I needed to send a squad back down the trail. We had moved on
to set up a night ambush position. And the platoon sergeant told me that this duty rotated among
the three squads and it was—the first squad was up for—I think it was the first squad. Frankly, I
think it was. But the squad was up to go out. And they went out. We set up the—you know, the
rest of us set up the DP. And the next morning, the squad was hit. And it was wiped out. 4 of
them were killed outright and the rest were wounded. And that was my first morning in the
field… (00:33:38)
Interviewer: Okay.
Veteran: …In Vietnam.
Interviewer: Alright. Now, did you get the wounded men out alive? Or…?
Veteran: Yeah.
Interviewer: Okay.
Veteran: One of them, I didn’t know it at the time, one of them was a paraplegic. He came back
to his home in Cincinnati, Ohio. My home is a suburb of Cleveland, Ohio. And he died in the
mid ‘80s. And his family was able to…They got his—his death was attributed to Vietnam, to
what he had suffered in Vietnam, so. And I think it was 1990 I opened the Cleveland paper and I
�read this story about a guy from Cincinnati whose name had been added to the wall. And they
talked about the fact that he had been with the 101st Airborne Division, you know, the squad that
was ambushed in April 1970. And I thought he had to be one. He had to be, right? I didn’t know
it—I didn’t know any of them.
Interviewer: Right. (00:34:58)
Veteran: I clipped that article and kept it and when I went—2003, I went to a reunion, my first
reunion with Bravo company. And my platoon medic was there and I showed it to him. He said
“Yeah, that was your guy.” That was us—one of ours. And you know, while I know that’s just
the way the cookie crumbles, I guess, I wished to hell I had known he was there. I could have
gone to see him, you know? You know I mean, I don’t know, maybe he would have said “Screw
you, you got me all fired up, get out of my house.” Or maybe we…I don’t know. But I would
have—I certainly would have gone down to see him. But yeah, so we got—we got the wounded
out.
Interviewer: So, how many men were in your platoon?
Veteran: Each squad was probably about 5-6 people. I had 3 squads so after that first day, I never
got that squad back. I went through—I went through several months in Vietnam as a platoon
leader and basically leaded a reinforced squad…12, 14 men. That was—I never got that squad
back. (00:36:16)
Interviewer: So, you’re not taking very many replacements at that point?
Veteran: We were not. We were not. I left the platoon in October and the last operation I went
out on, somewhere the floodgates opened because my room—my last operation, my platoon size
mostly doubled. And it’s—I mean, when you’re that small, you’re very, very quiet. You’re
�very—you become a very cohesive unit. And suddenly, we are twice as big. And it sounded like
a circus going through the jungles, as far as I was concerned. I couldn’t believe the noise. But
yeah, we didn’t get any replacements all through the—from April through the end of September.
Maybe one or two but you know, nothing—again, I never got that squad back. I only had two
squads.
Interviewer: Alright. Now, was the rest of the company in similar shape? Or do they have
at least a little bit bigger platoons?
Veteran: They have bigger platoons but they weren’t getting replacements that much either.
Interviewer: Yeah. Alright. So, that’s sort of your welcome to life in the field at that point.
So, that’s March, or thereabouts, 1970?
Veteran: First of April.
Interviewer: First of April, okay. And by this time, they are trying to establish—I mean
Ripcord doesn’t get established on a regular basis for another week or so after that. And
then there is a base there and your battalion is kind of in and out in that general area. So,
now kind of take us through now the next couple of months. What’s going on? What are
you seeing?
Veteran: We went—I think we left the Ripcord area for a while and then came back. But when
we were in Ripcord, it was just a constant skirmishing. Not on a daily basis, but two or three
contacts a week where a trail watcher or someone, we would have contact with. Quick contact
with. I lost…I lost eight guys total over there. The fifth guy was probably two weeks after that
first squad was ambushed. We were moving along the trail and came on an LZ and it turns out
there was a trail watcher on the other side there. This by example. We start moving across and he
�opens up on us. You know, this was the sort of thing that would happen. And I lost a guy there. It
was just pretty constant skirmishing. Nothing—no major pitched battles. But just constantly
bumping heads with the NVA. All around that Ripcord area. I don’t think we were alone in that.
I think a lot of units were having the same experiences. Because they were patrolling heavily too.
They were, I think, they were trying to figure out how many of us were out there just as much as
we were trying to figure out how many of them were out there. (00:39:54)
Interviewer: Okay. Now, in these months, sort of kind of April/May/June, is your platoon
normally by itself or are you more commonly—
Veteran: For the most part, yes. We were. Yeah. I don’t think we had that many company-sized
operations at that time. And again, when you’re—when you have 12 or 14 people, it makes
you…You become a very cohesive unit. I wouldn’t—I wouldn’t recommend going to war with
12 or 14 people but if you do it, you quickly find out how tight you can be. (00:40:33)
Interviewer: Now, how long did they keep you out in the field?
Veteran: God, weeks. 3, 4, 5 weeks at a time. I remember once we didn’t get fresh uniforms. You
know? But you just, you know, you…You know, you don’t go back and sleep at night, you don’t
go back for a shower at night, you don’t get warm breakfast in the morning. It’s just—those
operations were anywhere from 4 to 6 weeks.
Interviewer: Okay. And what—did you have kind of the standard operating procedure if
you are moving from one area to another? What do you do or not do?
Veteran: Well, you start each day with a stand down. You know, early in the morning. And that
can go for, you know, 20 minutes—whatever it takes. What you’re looking for: you want the
first light to pass, so you don’t get hit at first light. So, you start with a stand down at first light.
�You end the day with a stand down at last light. And in between those two things that you always
do, there was no pattern because I didn’t want a pattern. Some days after first light, we’d eat.
Some days after first light, we were moving. I don’t ever want to get caught in a routine because
someone might pick up on my routine and do a swarm. Sometimes at night, you’re moving to an
NDP at 6 o’clock at night and you eat and you stay there tonight. Other nights, you are moving—
you’ll sit down and you’ll, you know, eat at 4, 5, 6 o’clock and maybe 10-15 minutes before last
light, you move to another position before you find an NDP. You never want to set a pattern. So,
when you asked me what went on—there is no pattern. You know? But you don’t…You just
don’t want to…But you don’t want to stay in one place too long. Other than obviously at night,
you’re going to stay there. But you’d hear about—I don’t know if it happened a lot with those
platoons, but you would hear about officers who would call in fake positions. And they would
stay in one spot because they thought that was safe. Well, I think that was the most dangerous
thing in the world you could do. There was no way in hell I would have ever done that to my
men. You know, you just—you always assume the worst. And that’s how you operate.
(00:43:14)
Interviewer: Okay. Would you move on trails or off them?
Veteran: Both. But many times with ridge land, there’s only one way to go and that is the trail.
You know? But there were times, actually, there were times when I would take my platoon off
the ridge line, down along the side and move through an area. You know, sometimes you would.
If you do that, you want to keep at least one guy or two on the top as long as the flank position.
But yeah actually, there were times when I’d move on the side of the hill.
Interviewer: And did you have rules about day and night noise discipline, light discipline,
that kind of thing?
�Veteran: Yeah. Yeah. Basically…I think the thing that—the noise that used to grate on me the
most was a zipper liner closing. You know? Because it’s so foreign to the jungle. You know, you
don’t want any noise that’s foreign to the jungle. I had guys that one time got a fucking radio.
That’s what it was, a fucking—well, he didn’t have it long. I mean, you don’t play a radio out in
the middle of the jungle in my platoon. You know? Who are you? You know? Yeah,
so…Smoking at night, I will admit to you that we did some of that. You know, you’re not
supposed to but we did some of that. But you’d, you know, get a little poncho over your head or
something like that to light the cigarette or whatever. But you know, not too much of that.
(00:44:39)
Interviewer: Okay.
Veteran: But every once in a while, you know, you just…
Interviewer: Alright. And how did you get your food? Fresh water? That kind of thing.
Veteran: Well, mostly helicopter supply. If we found streams, we obviously—we used them. But
most of our water and obviously the food came in every 4 days on log birds.
Interviewer: Okay. Alright.
Veteran: And they were their own problem because that’s when you were exposed. Everyone in
the unit knew where you were because that—the chopper was there. And now, so again you
know, you got a 19-year old, 20-year old kid. I was the old guy; I was 24 years old. You got a
19-20-year old kid and he’s got a letter from home. What’s he going to do with it? He wants to
read it. What do I want to do? I want to get his ass moving out of this visibility where everyone
in the world knows where we are. And we will stop 10 minutes down the road, 15 minutes down
the—whatever, read it then. You know? It’s a matter of trying to…It was controlled paranoia, I
�think that’s what it is, okay? You just, you know you—you don’t relax. You don’t relax. And
honestly you know, if I couldn’t see behind the tree, my assumption was always there’s
something bad behind the tree. And that’s kind of what you do. (00:46:15)
Interviewer: Alright. Now did you have kind of sort of the same core group of guys in for
the next several months?
Veteran: Yeah kind of, in a way.
Interviewer: Or you’d maybe have one guy out and one guy in once in a while?
Veteran: Get once? I am sorry?
Interviewer: One guy out and one guy in? So, you’d stay about the same level in the
beginning?
Veteran: Yeah. Yeah, in terms of total numbers, yeah. Yeah, I had two squad leaders. You know,
that—I did, my two squad leaders were there for quite a while. I had a platoon sergeant when I
got there. He was what we called a shake and bake. Went through NCO school. Graduated at the
top of his class. He was an E-6, and I think only the top 1-2%, whatever it is in NCO school,
became an E-6. And he had actually been with the 5th Mech Division, which was north of us in I
Corps and they had been sent home and he didn’t have enough time in, so he was sent to the
101st. So, he was my first platoon sergeant. And he was—he was an excellent platoon sergeant.
And he left I guess in July. And then I got a—we called a hard stripe E-6, you know the kind that
come through the ranks. So, I was very, very fortunate I had two excellent platoon sergeants.
And that goes a long way to help run a platoon.
�Interviewer: Alright. Now, your battalion gets involved, or engaged, in some of the stuff
going on around Ripcord as things get more intense. So, I guess what kind of, just in
general, we are kind of following your time in Vietnam. So, you’re doing patrolling in and
out of the Ripcord area. Operations for a while. Ripcord itself really starts to heat up in
July, when the actual base comes under siege and so forth. What is your battalion doing
around that time? (00:48:03)
Veteran: Well, we were in the Ripcord area. We were probably, if I can get my directions correct
here, a little south of Ripcord, I guess. And we had some—we had some significant contacts
there. I remember at one point, there was this huge mountain called Coc Muen. I am trying to
remember my directions. I think it was south of Ripcord.
Interviewer: Yeah, it was south and west.
Veteran: South and west, yeah. I set up there. This was one time when we—we did stay in one
spot for two days. I was attached with—I was attached to the recon platoon, the Italian recon
platoon. And we were…We were up on Coc Muen for a couple of days. And we moved off and
we had a trail watcher following us. And one of my guys spotted him because recon platoon…I
think recon platoon was on the point. We were following them. But the decision was made that
we would get—that we’d go back and get this trail watcher and kill him. And they sent their—
the recon platoon had sent a sniper team back. And the guy was on a little—he was above us, a
little ridgeline. And I went back with them. And he missed the kill. He hit the guy in the hip. And
the problem was, you know again, I couldn’t see up there to know what was up there. Because
this guy was up there. He’s moaning, he was hit. And I couldn’t get a chopper out to recon that
area for us. And so, I don’t know is this guy by himself? Or does he have a squad up there that is
now using him as bait? Because my instinct is well, go get the guy. You know, grab a medic,
�let’s go. But I can’t risk this. And we stayed there for I don’t know how long, just listening to
this man die. And that was a bitter, bitter feeling. Just unable to do anything for this guy.
(00:51:02)
Interviewer: Wasn’t staying there also kind of dangerous? I mean, there had been a
gunshot. Or, was the sniper shot quiet?
Veteran: Well, it could have been dangerous. I wasn’t going to walk away from it, I guess. It
could have been but I just remember…So, we set up that night and my platoon would always put
out booby traps, mechanical ambushes, where we just left. And we had a joint CP with the recon
platoon leader and his CP and mine. And…And someone, somewhere along the way said he
thought he saw more trail watchers on the way we come in. And I remember the sniper came into
the CP and he wanted to go back out and try to get them this time. And this was getting toward
dusk. And he wanted to go through my position, my part of the perimeter. And I, you know, of
course I knew what was out there and I told him. I said, “Check with my people before you leave
this perimeter because we will have booby traps out there.” And I think it went in one ear and out
the other. And the next thing we heard were the claymores going off. And this sniper and his
spotter I found where they had just blown right through the perimeter, right into the claymores.
But by that time, you know, it was almost dark. The spotter was killed instantly. The sniper was
badly, badly wounded. And by the time we got the med evac out there, it was dark. We brought
in those strobe lights. And he died on the way in. The—our sniper. And I just…I mean, just a
tough day. So, now we have made contact with the NVA and you know, the battles there, but
other things happen, you know? And—I mean that movie that came out about a year or two ago
about the sniper in Iraq and—there’s no way in hell I am going to go see that movie. You know,
there just is no way in hell I am going to. I just—I am not going to deal with…I mean, right now
�is maybe the 4th or 5th time I have talked to people about this thing. It’s just a horrendous day.
You know? I mean, we let the guy up there die and then the guy who walks into a booby trap.
Just miserable, miserable day. So, in addition to again, sort of bumping heads with the NVA
around Ripcord, you know these other things are going on which are just difficult. (00:54:10)
Interviewer: Okay.
Veteran: Yeah.
Interviewer: Now, I think your battalion got involved in a couple places around Ripcord, I
think—
Veteran: We did, yeah. We went, on the 14th of July, we went after—we went after Hill 1000.
The 506th had tried to go up with I guess the…Get my map straight here. They tried to go up the
west side of Hill 1000 a couple weeks earlier and almost got to the top. But they couldn’t stay
there. We tried to go up the east side. We had gone back to resupply. This was after the incident
with the sniper. We went back to Phu Bai for about a day, resupplied, came back out, again
landed up on Coc Muen, then moved down. Moved down toward Hill 1000 and went after it the
second day. We moved out with recon platoon on the point, Bravo company 2nd in the
movement. And hit a bunker complex on Hill 1000. And it would be—I saw the NVA were
going up with RPGs into the trees so you get that spreading effect of the shrapnel. And pretty
much shoot up the recon platoon. There was a guy who, I didn’t know his name, I think I might
have known it at one time, lost his hand in that explosion down in there. And it was amazing—in
the middle of that fire fight, I think he was in shock. But I think he was also lucid enough to
know that he couldn’t stay there because he was going to bleed to death. And I remember
watching this guy: he got up and he walked out of that fire fight just as you’d walk to the grocery
�store to buy a loaf of bread. And he was holding…And I mean, rounds are going everywhere.
And he was—he was unscathed after losing his hand. He walked right out of the battle.
Damndest thing I have ever saw in my life. But we pulled back. We got recon out of there. We
pulled back, brought in artillery—I am sorry, brought in an air part with another—brought in the
fast movement, the 105s. And I think just bombed the hell out of those bunkers. I remember
literally the ground shaking. And the concussion was knocking branches off trees that were
flopping down on us. One of my guys actually got cut in the face with tree particles flying
around. And I—he was a good soldier. And he looked as white as those sheets. And I was trying
to buck him up and I remember I just told him, I said, “Listen, I’ll put you in for a purple heart.”
Better day, kind of trying to joke with him about it. So, the jets finished their work. And we went
after the bunkers again, this time Bravo was the pointer. The 2nd platoon was leading us, my
platoon was right behind Bravo. And they got about the same point recon did and once again, an
RPG initiated the contact. And they got the same thing, you know. They got many guys
wounded. A lot of people fired up there. And I took—I took my platoon down through to relieve
them and we managed to get them out of there. And we withdrew. I think we had—I think we
had over 20 guys wounded that day. But when I got back to the company position, I found that
this guy that had been—that had hit with that tree bark and I told him I’d give him a purple heart,
he was dead. He had apparently been helping evacuate some wounded guys onto med evacs and
apparently a stray round came out of nowhere and went right through him. And that was the last
guy I lost. He was the 8th that I lost. And we set up that night and I thought, well, we will go
again tomorrow. I really thought we would go again tomorrow. And I figured well okay, let’s
see…I think I know who is going to be on point tomorrow, right? And, we didn’t. We withdrew
from Hill 1000. And I—as I think about Ripcord and I think about that battle, I feel—then again,
�I am not a great military tactician by any stretch. But I think that really…That was a
foreshadowing of leaving Ripcord. I think…I think Hill 1000 was…I think we had to have Hill
1000 if we wanted to keep Ripcord. It was just—the NVA were just using it as a launching pad
for a lot of stuff onto Ripcord. And it was higher than Ripcord. And I think—I think in
retrospect, that was the foreshadowing of the withdrawment. This was the—this was the 14th and
we withdrew I think it was the 23rd of July. And yeah, we withdrew from that battle. (01:00:53)
Interviewer: But did you come back to the Ripcord area before the evacuation? Or were
you now just in other places?
Veteran: We went south and constructed a firebase called Brick. And really, that was…That was
sort of the—Ripcord was the last real significant contacts I had in Vietnam. The next several
months, every once in a while, something would happen but it was not heavy-duty.
Interviewer: Okay. Alright, so we have gotten to the point in your story where you talked
about having left the Ripcord area and you no longer had a lot of intense activity in your
remaining months in the field. But you had some larger comment about what you saw
going on there?
Veteran: Yeah. I think…This was an army that was withdrawing. The only war left in Vietnam
was I Corps. I am pretty sure of that. And the only unit fighting in I Corps was 101st airborne
division. And these guys knew it. I mean you know, by 19-20 years old, maybe they weren’t the
most sophisticated people in the world but they knew that everyone else was leaving and they
were left to fight a war that the country was withdrawing from. And it was not easy duty for
them. It was not…It was not—it was not a time filled with glory and all of those things. And as I
think back about it, I think one of the things that really impresses me is, and what I think is
�overlooked a lot, is the courage these guys had. You know, it’s easy to talk about the courage of
the Army of ’65, ’66, ’67. But by 1970, we tend to want to start thinking about the Army in
Vietnam with drug problems and race issues and lack of discipline and certainly that was there,
to one extent or another. It was not there in the field at Ripcord. It was not there when we went
into battle and there were guys who didn’t want to go but their buddies going and they’re going
to go with them. And there was courage. There was a courage that these guys exhibited that I
think is undervalued. And it needs to be acknowledged. And so, my point there is, you know this
was not—these guys did what they had to do and they tried to take care of themselves and each
other as best they could. And they—and it was a crappy mission. I think if Ripcord had been
1968, the 101st would have piled on every asset they had and would have borrowed assets if they
had needed them and we would have established Ripcord and did what we had to do. But it was
not 1968, it was 1970. The political situation was different. But the courage of these men was
still there. (01:04:23)
Interviewer: Yeah. One of the stereotypes is—and it’s something that some people in
higher levels of the command certainly thought that in 1971 or so, was that—and if the
Army couldn’t fight or was in crisis or whatever. But you still see here at this point, and
this is consistent with what I’ve gotten from an awful lot of people who were there, was that
the soldiers in the field would still fight and they could still be effective and part of it was
because they had to be to get out of there alive. But that could still function and that most
guys were still actually doing their jobs.
Veteran: Yes. Yes.
Interviewer: Now, you have—now with officers, it’s a standard thing to rotate them in
different assignments. So, what happened to you and your assignment? I mean, did
�you…Now, you have mentioned something about when you were supposed to rotate out,
when you really did rotate out. Talk a little bit about that and how that worked.
Veteran: Yeah. Well, after Ripcord, after July, I had been there 4 months and 4 months seemed
to be the standard for an officer to serve in the field. And I recall we were—we were in Phu Bai
on a stand down and I was told…And jeez, I don’t know who could have—Sometime in the end
of July, my company commander Captain Stanton left and a Captain named Joe Swazzle—
Schwazzle or Swazzle? Replaced him. And I was—someone came to me and said that they were
looking for a rear job for me because I had completed my 4 months in the field. And again, there
was 4 months with no replacements coming through and I simply remember asking, “Who takes
the platoon?” Because if nothing else, I’d like to meet my replacement and sort of orient him or
whatever. And I was told they had no officers, that they would simply assign the task to the
platoon sergeant. He was certainly a very, very capable man but he was not being paid to be a
platoon leader. He was a platoon sergeant. Actually, he wasn’t even a platoon sergeant, he was
an E-6. Technically, he should have been a squad leader but the Vietnam of the day, he was a
platoon sergeant. And so, I simply, I said “You know, when you have a replacement, I will leave
the field. Otherwise, I will stay in my platoon.” And as it turns out, one of the things you, I—the
reason, or at least I did early on for me on my tours, you get there and they ask well, when do
you want to go on R and R and where you want to go and you get that paperwork out of the way.
And my R and R was scheduled for after 7 months and as it turns out, that’s when they got a
replacement platoon leader for me. So, I had the platoon for 7 months. Went on R and R to
Australia. Came back and found that I had been assigned to the battalion staff as the S-2, the
intelligence officer. And…And that was a strange job in a way. I remember at first, I didn’t—I
just, I couldn’t…I don’t think we generated that. I wasn’t interrogating prisoners or any of that
�kind of stuff. It was just—my job…I don’t know. I don’t know that I really did it particularly
well because I didn’t understand what they wanted of me. And no one was very forthcoming
with what I should have been doing. And I have, you know, when officers would come—the
brigade commander or the assistant division commander or division commander would come in,
and one of them—at least one of them showed up every day for briefing because the world was
on forward firebase. And so, we’d have a briefing for them and it would always start with the S-2
in terms of talking about any activity that happened in the last day or two, contacts or this that,
what are the disposition of the units. And then the operations officer, the S-3, would talk about
what are plans for the future and then the battalion commander would sort of wrap things up and
whatever discussion ensued took place. And there was a young secretary and I was always
quietly off to the side. But I will say that I have—while I think I did my job as a platoon leader
as best I could, I mean there are things I certainly would change, but I just—I never felt that I did
a great job as the S-2 because I never fully understood what I should have been doing. And I will
say there have been times when I look back on that and I wonder about it. You know, that’s an
area where I really should have tried to improve myself but I am not sure what I would have
done. (01:09:29)
Interviewer: You weren’t getting guidance from the battalion commander or XO or
anybody else?
Veteran: No. No, or even brigade S-2. You know? And I tried to reach out to him a couple times.
I mean, no one said you are doing anything wrong. You know, no one said, you know, “Jeez,
you’re the crappiest S-2 I’ve ever seen in my life.” But it just seemed to me that, you know, I
should be—there should be more that I was doing. I don’t know. I did in that period…Probably
in March of ’71…No later than March ’70. We had a combined operation with the 1st ARVN
�division. And I was assigned to the 1st ARVN as a liaison officer with the battalion, which I
found an interesting couple weeks in the field with the ARVN. I mean, they operate in totally
different ways than we did. You know, sit out and build fires at night and each officer had his
own little bat boy who would hang—strong his hammock for him and everything. It was going to
war the riviera style, if you will. So, I did do that but the…Yeah, the stint as the…As the
battalion intelligence officer—I just never really felt that I got a good handle on that. (01:11:00)
Interviewer: Okay. I want to jump back for a minute to the R and R in Australia. What
was it like to go to Australia after having been in Vietnam all that time?
Veteran: I had a meltdown. I learned…Which, years later in my life, I heard the term “survivor’s
guilt” and immediately I understood it. I mean you know, I got to sit in the—you know, the first
couple days I did what any G.I. does on R and R, right? You know, find some booze, find a
woman. And about the 3rd day, I just had this horrendous, horrendous guilt feeling crashing down
on me because here I was in a bar, drinking and having fun and you know, with women, and my
platoon was back there in the monsoon now. You know, it was October, it was monsoon month.
And it’s cold and it’s wet and it’s, you know…And I literally—literally drank the last half of my
R and R. And that’s all I did. Either in my room or there was a bar on the ground floor of the
hotel and I would just go there and…because I…And I knew, you know, I knew I was going to
go back to Vietnam and get killed because I had abandoned my platoon, you know? Deserters
get killed there. And I must have heard…I must have heard on the jukebox in that bar “The
Boxer.” Simon and Garfunkel. There was someone in that bar that played that song about 1000
times a day. I mean I just—I remember drinking, being drunk as hell, and hearing “The Boxer.”
And that was my last couple days of my R and R. I just—I couldn’t deal with, you know, I just
really…So, my R and R was not…a great deal. (01:13:13)
�Interviewer: Did you have any impression of the Australians or how they treated the
Americans there?
Veteran: The 2—my first couple of days there, yeah, they were great to us. Which I will say
really surprised me because I thought well, God by this time, they are going to be as sick of G.I.s
as any Army town around the United States, you know? But they were very, very friendly as far
as I can remember.
Interviewer: Okay.
Veteran: But I just couldn’t handle it.
Interviewer: So, was it almost a relief to go back to Vietnam at that point?
Veteran: Except I really thought I was going to get killed. So, I am not sure if it was a relief or
not. I don’t know what it was. I just know that it was a horrible time.
Interviewer: Alright. Now, were you still there when the South Vietnamese conducted their
operation in the Laos?
Veteran: The Lam Son 719.
Interviewer: Yeah.
Veteran: That was—I remember I was leaving as that was starting. (01:14:09)
Interviewer: Okay.
Veteran: Bravo company had a big part in that. It was the 2501 rather that had a big part in that,
because apparently, we provided a lot of the security up to the border. And I would think…I
�would think that the Bravo S-2 probably had a lot to do at that point, you know? But it wasn’t
me. You know?
Interviewer: Alright, so you’re on your way out?
Veteran: I was on my way out, yeah.
Interviewer: Okay. Now, what—as you…Now, how did they get you out of Vietnam? Or,
what is the process? Your year runs out, do you just wait for orders? Or…?
Veteran: Well, actually what happened was yeah, I—they finally—I was sent back to Phu Bai to
process out. And everyone knows his deros date—the day I am going to leave. And I didn’t get
any orders. And I wouldn’t know the day and then no orders. And finally, I went to the battalion
and someone says, “You’re not supposed to leave for 2 weeks” and “because you got here March
of…” whatever, you know. And I said, “Yeah, but I went to Panama and that counts as 2 weeks
overseas duty.” “Oh really? Don’t worry sir, we will have orders for you this afternoon.” And
they did. You know, they did come up. But if I hadn’t walked in there, they didn’t realize that I
had 2 weeks in Panama first and that was supposed to count as part of the overseas duty.
Interviewer: Right.
Veteran: So yeah, so that’s—you know, I sort of got myself out of it, in a sense. (01:15:33)
Interviewer: Okay. Alright. Now—
Veteran: Went to Da Nang and flew to Fort Washing—Fort Lewis, Washington.
Interviewer: Okay. Now, did you still have time left to serve on your enlistment or were you
done?
Veteran: I was done.
�Interviewer: Okay.
Veteran: ROTC was 2 years active duty commitment and…
Interviewer: I guess you had trained long enough before you got to Vietnam at that…
Veteran: Yeah, that and the time at Fort Leonard Wood. My active duty was—on my DD214, it
was a year and 11 months and like 15 days or something. I got 2 weeks of vacation pay for…so I
got that.
Interviewer: Alright. Now, did the Army make any effort to encourage you to stay in?
(01:16:11)
Veteran: Yeah. They—I was informally…Officers in Vietnam—my, probably the one that
impressed me the most was my company first sergeant, wanted me to stay in. And I think any
time an NCO says to a lieutenant…You know, you give that consideration. I mean, you know,
because I respected the hell out of him and the fact that he thought I should stay in the Army
meant a lot to me. My last company commander wanted me to. And there were a couple other
guys. I had a long talk with an officer—well, a long talk? I had a talk with him. He was a West
Pointer. I can’t remember his name. he had been with a mech unit somewhere in the south and
they went home and he came up to 101st. And I remember I had a discussion with him one time.
Because he was in for the long haul. He wanted a career in the Army and he was the guy that
thought I should stay in. And I—and I said, “Well, why do this?” Because the Army was a mess
then. I mean it was, you know, it was getting to be a mess. And he—and I was so impressed with
his answer. He told me, he said, “Look,” he said “that’s—anyone can be an officer when the
going is easy.” He said, “Now is when the Army needs us.” You know? And I was impressed
with his, you know, he was going to stay in. You know? I couldn’t do it. I couldn’t, it wasn’t in
�me but I admired him because he was, you know. He knew that it was going to be tough. He
knew that it was a bad Army at that time but he also knew that the bad Army needed good
officers and he was going to—he was going to ride it out. And I admired that in him but I—you
know, it just wasn’t in me to be a career officer. (01:18:06)
Interviewer: So, what had you seen at that point that led you to think it was a bad Army?
Veteran: Well, I—because of the stuff that was going on in the rear, with the drug issues and that
kind of stuff, the racial issues. I wasn’t in the rear that much, but I knew of it.
Interviewer: Right.
Veteran: And I knew those problems were there. And it was also an Army that was—that you
know, that the country didn’t give a damn about at that point either. There was—I don’t think
there was anything easy about the Army in the ‘70s.
Interviewer: Yeah.
Veteran: You know? And…But, you know, this guy was—he was sticking it out. I think, you
know, people like that deserve a lot of credit.
Interviewer: Alright, so you come back now. What do you do once you get out?
Veteran: Initially, I had another…I had another one of those…I was released in Fort Lewis. And
you know, there must have been a group of 20 or so of us. And we were taken to a bus station on
post and there was a ticket booth to Seattle/Tacoma international and there was a ticket booth to
the city of Seattle. And there was this mad dash for the airport and I remember standing there
and looking at the two of them and I realized I couldn’t go home. I wasn’t ready to. You know? I
needed to process a lot of this stuff, so I went to Seattle. I got a room there at a YMCA. It had a
�bed and a lavatory and a layout 2-4 to a room. And all the showers and the toilets down the hall.
And I stayed in Seattle for about a week. And I just walked the streets. Get up in the morning, go
out and get some coffee, read the newspaper, walks. Just to get it back. You know? I mean you
think about it: they—you know, even the guy who’s drafted and gets some basic AIT, he’s
trained to go. You get nothing to come back. You know? And I think that, you know. And that’s
one of the feelings I look back on, in all my military time, I think that is one of the failings of the
Army. You know, I was in an airplane for 12 hours or so. We didn’t need 12 hours of orientation
to come back but it could have been something, you know? I knew if I went home, I wouldn’t be
able to handle it right away. You know, my mom would be, “Oh, good to see you” and letting
the family know and all that. Not that I didn’t want to see them, I just wasn’t ready. Not yet. I
remember walking to a little mom and pop place one night, you know the linoleum floor type
place, for dinner. And I was sitting at the table and there’s a couple over there and they get up to
leave and I remember the guy reaches in his pocket and puts—leaves change on the table and
walks away. And I am not kidding you one second, it took me 2 or 3 minutes to remember tip. I
couldn’t remember. Why the hell is this guy walking away leaving money? You know I—and
finally, I got it back. So, I…You know, I—that was nothing that was planned. It’s just when I hit
that spot, you know, this way or that way, I just—something in my gut just said you don’t go
home right now. You know, you got to sort this out. So, then I went home. And I was still, you
know, trying to adjust to the world, I guess. I was in the states for 3 months and I packed a
rucksack and went to Europe. And I spent 7 months hitchhiking through Europe. Just, again,
processing. Processing, processing. Came back from Europe. One of the things that had
happened back in the late ‘60s at Ohio University, I had a degree in Business Administration but
I knew I really didn’t want to—I wasn’t cut out for the corporate world. And I think a lot of that
�social upheaval at that time in the ‘60s…I got really interested in that: what’s going on there,
how does you get—how does the nation deal with it, what office shoulders it. It led me to a
career in urban planning and so I came back—after I came back from Europe, I went to the
University of Akron and got a degree in Urban Planning. And went to work for a 5-county
regional transportation planning organization in the Cleveland area. And my—I think the thing
that mostly interested me in business I know, in the business curriculum, was economics. The
thing that interested me a lot in going through the planning programs was urban economics. So, I
gravitated into a lot of work in urban economics. I ended up getting a second Master’s degree in
Econ, and I worked—I guess I worked 32 years there in the field of urban economics. A lot of
analysis, a lot of demographic work also. Which I found very—I enjoyed. I really did. It was
very, very interesting to me. I never had the sense…I never went to work a day in my life. I was
never got up and said, “Damn,” you know, “I got to…” I enjoyed it. You know? And I think I
was extremely fortunate in that regard. (01:23:27)
Interviewer: Alright. Now, to look back at the time that you spent in the Army, how do you
think that affected you overall? Positive? Negatively?
Veteran: Well, I think there’s no question it was a positive. I mean, I am sure there was some
negatives here and there. I think…I think people—we should serve our country. First of all, just
flat ass, we should serve our country. I think—and again, in a sense, I served my country in
Vietnam. I feel I served my country in a career in public planning. I am now retired. I serve my
country 2 days a week with Habitat for Humanity, building houses for people. I don’t see
anything wrong with a life spent like that. I have nothing against, you know, the guy that took
the career in finance and went to work for Merrill Lynch and made his billions. That’s part of
this also, you know. But this was my way. I think…I think had I—well, I never would have
�avoided the service, I never would have gone to Canada. I know that. But let’s say I had a bum
knee from football or something like that—was medically ineligible for service. I think that
would have bothered me a lot. My father served in World War 2. All of my uncles served in
World War 2. I sort of—and frankly, had there not been a war, I would have been in the Army. I
mean, I would have gone in the military. Because that—I sort of…I mean, we didn’t, you know.
There wasn’t a big flag waving at home or anything like that but I knew they were all there. And
I would have been in the military, war or not. So, I look back on—and I look back with pride on
my military time. I do.
Interviewer: Alright. Well, it makes for a good story so thank you very much for taking the
time to share it today.
Veteran: Thank you. (01:25:35)
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Robert Layton was born in Madison, Indiana on August 24th, 1946 and graduated high school in 1964. He briefly attendd the Univeristy of Arizona before transferring to to Ohio University where he participated in the ROTC program in 1966. Layton underwent Basic Training at Indiantown Gap, Pennsylvania, in 1967, and graduated college in 1969. He then attended his infantry officer's traiing course at Fort Benning, Georgia, and completed both jump school and ranger training. His first assignment as an officer was to Fort Leonard Wood, Missouri, in 1969 before he was deployed to Vietnam with the B Company, 2nd Battalion, 501st Infantry Regiment, 101st Airborne Division. His unit articipated in combat at Firebase Ripcord as well as Hill 1000 before Layton was reassigned as an S-2 Intelligence Officer. After two years of deployment, he left the service and completed his Master's degree in Urban Planning and, later, in Economics.
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Young Lords
In Lincoln Park
Interviewee: Higinio Lazano
Interviewers: José “Cha-Cha” Jiménez
Location: Grand Valley State University Special Collections
Date: 7/12/2012
Biography and Description
Higinio Lozano arrived in Chicago and settled in the La Clark neighborhood in 1947. He later moved to
North Avenue and Sedgwick in Old Town, right across the street from Lincoln Park, and lived there until
the 1980s. Mr. Lozano is considered the official “Grandpa” of the Young Lords because he does not miss
any of their events including socials, funerals and weddings. Several of his children were part of the
Young Lords including his daughter, Yolanda Lucas, who held a top leadership position within the Young
Lords. Ms. Lucas is also the mother of Alejandro “Alex” Jiménez, José “Cha-Cha” Jiménez’s only son.
Alejandro Jiménez is now an adult who went to Truman College, has sold insurance and other products,
and has even worked for the Northwest Community Organization, a neighborhood group known for
their grassroots activism, especially around housing concerns.Ms. Lucas and Mr. José Jiménez separated
after the Jiménez for Alderman Campaign when pressures contributed to Mr. Jiménez‘s relapse.
Circumstances related to divorce, safety, distance, the Young Lords, and repression prevented a more
traditional type of family communications. Communication was nearly non-existent and usually done in
public places, which became cannon fodder for those without clear understanding, and who loved to be
involved in gossip. This contributed even more to the pain of a child. But Mr. Lozano provided needed
support to Alex and to the Young Lords group. Ms. Lucas remains very close to the Jiménez family and
now there is also a granddaughter, Alessandra.Mr. Lozano is always happy go lucky and the biggest flirt
�ever, who will not miss a beat on the dance floor. His son, Albert, was a salsa king at the Rico’s Club that
Young Lord Angie Adorno owned, and which many Young Lords and others from Lincoln Park patronized.
Mr. Lozano is the typical Puerto Rican joker who will catch your every weakness. And his politics are soft
spoken. One does not realize how clear he is on Puerto Rican politics. He knows racism firsthand and
what Mayor Daley did to Puerto Ricans; removing them from the lakefront and downtown. He saw it
with his own eyes. But he is patient enough to wait until you can see it.
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Young Lords in Lincoln Park Collection
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Young Lords (Organization)
Puerto Ricans--United States
Civil Rights--United States--History
Lincoln Park (Chicago, Ill.)
Personal narratives
Social justice
Community activists--Illinois--Chicago
Description
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Collection of oral history interviews and digitized materials documenting the history of the Young Lords Organization in Lincoln Park, Chicago. Interviews were conducted by Young Lords' founder, José “Cha-Cha” Jiménez, and documents were digitized from Mr. Jiménez' archives.
The Young Lords in Lincoln Park collection grows out of the ongoing struggle for fair housing, self-determination, and human rights that was launched by Mr. José “Cha-Cha” Jiménez, founder of the Young Lords Movement. This project is dedicated to documenting the history of the displacement of Puerto Ricans, Mejicanos, other Latinos, and the poor from Lincoln Park, as well as the history of the Young Lords nationwide.
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Jiménez, José, 1948-
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<a href="https://gvsu.lyrasistechnology.org/repositories/2/resources/491">Young Lords in Lincoln Park collection (RHC-65)</a>
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Grand Valley State University. University Libraries. Special Collections & University Archives
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2017-04-25
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eng
spa
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Text
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RHC-65
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2012-2017
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Título
Spanish language Title entry
Higinio Lazano vídeo entrevista y biografía
Sujetos
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Young Lords (Organización)
Puertorriqueños--Estados Unidos
Derechos civiles--Estados Unidos--Historia
Lincoln Park (Chicago, Ill.)
Puertorriqueños--Relatos personales
Justicia social
Activistas comunitarios--Illinois--Chicago
Source
<a href="https://gvsu.lyrasistechnology.org/repositories/2/resources/491">Young Lords in Lincoln Park (RHC-65)</a>
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RHC-65_Lozano_Higinio
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Higinio Lazano video interview and biography
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Lazano, Higinio
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Higinio Lozano arrived in Chicago and settled in the La Clark neighborhood in 1947. He later moved to North Avenue and Sedgwick in Old Town, right across the street from Lincoln Park, and lived there until the 1980s. Mr. Lozano is considered the official “Grandpa” of the Young Lords because he does not miss any of their events including socials, funerals and weddings. Several of his children were part of the Young Lords including his daughter, Yolanda Lucas, who held a top leadership position within the Young Lords. Ms. Lucas is also the mother of Alejandro “Alex” Jiménez, José “Cha-Cha” Jiménez’s only son. Alejandro Jiménez is now an adult who went to Truman College, has sold insurance and other products, and has even worked for the Northwest Community Organization, a neighborhood group known for their grassroots activism, especially around housing concerns.Ms. Lucas and Mr. José Jiménez separated after the Jiménez for Alderman Campaign when pressures contributed to Mr. Jiménez‘s relapse. Circumstances related to divorce, safety, distance, the Young Lords, and repression prevented a more traditional type of family communications. Communication was nearly non-existent and usually done in public places, which became cannon fodder for those without clear understanding, and who loved to be involved in gossip. This contributed even more to the pain of a child. But Mr. Lozano provided needed support to Alex and to the Young Lords group. Ms. Lucas remains very close to the Jiménez family and now there is also a granddaughter, Alessandra.Mr. Lozano is always happy go lucky and the biggest flirt ever, who will not miss a beat on the dance floor. His son, Albert, was a salsa king at the Rico’s Club that Young Lord Angie Adorno owned, and which many Young Lords and others from Lincoln Park patronized. Mr. Lozano is the typical Puerto Rican joker who will catch your every weakness. And his politics are soft spoken. One does not realize how clear he is on Puerto Rican politics. He knows racism firsthand and what Mayor Daley did to Puerto Ricans; removing them from the lakefront and downtown. He saw it with his own eyes. But he is patient enough to wait until you can see it.
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Jiménez, José, 1948-
Subject
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Young Lords (Organization)
Puerto Ricans--United States
Civil Rights--United States--History
Lincoln Park (Chicago, Ill.)
Personal narratives
Social justice
Community activists--Illinois--Chicago
Language
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eng
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<a href="http://rightsstatements.org/page/InC/1.0/?language=en">In Copyright</a>
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Moving Image
Text
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video/mp4
application/pdf
Date
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2012-07-12
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Grand Valley State University. University Libraries. Lemmen Library and Archives
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GrandValleyStateUniversity
Veteran’s History Project
Vietnam War
Lan Chi Le Interview
Total Time: (31:47)
Background
(00:11) Born in SaigonVietnam in 1970
o Mother from My Tho
Had 4 brothers and 4 sisters
Moved to the city for a better job
o Mother met father while working as a waitress
o Father from America, worked for GICC for Vietnam
He was a chief management officer
o At the time, her mother knew just a bit of English
(2:09) Ms. Le’s mother quit working after staying with her father
o Her mother became pregnant, father gave her money before leaving
o Says he knew he wouldn’t be back
o Gave her documents in case Ms. Le wanted to look for him one day
(3:17) Says mother was depressed after father left
Communism in Vietnam
(3:51) Was about 4-5 years old when the communists took over
o Does remember when she was upstairs in her house playing, saw many
helicopters and jets
o Engines were loud; was scared
o Found out they lived about 20 minutes away from the airport
(5:13) Ms. Le said the cops threatened to take her mother’s house away
(5:26) After the communists took over, her mother had a very hard time finding a job
(5:45) Her mother did end up finding a job as a receptionist at a hospital
(6:15) Says her father left just enough money behind to get a house and start off
(6:25) Remembers that there wasn’t enough rice in the house as a child
(7:05) Ms. Le said she was fortunate enough to go to school
o Said she got picked on a lot in school because of her American heritage
o Said that sometimes she would have to go along w/others in saying she hated
America
o Had to wear a red scarf to show Ho Chi Minh loyalty
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(8:54) Every family was required to have a picture of Ho Chi Minh on their walls
o Risk of going to jail if they didn’t
Opportunity to go to America
(10:46) There was a program called ODC
o Took three years before they received a ticket to go to America
o Americans paid for them to go
(12:07) Flew over with her mom and sister
o Had to stop by the Philippines for 6 months
o Went into a training program
o They learned English, and a bit about everyday life
(12:51) Ms. Le was surprised by snow
(13:19) There were many emigrants at the orientation in the Philippines
o Temporary homes were built
o 10 sections with cubicles; each family was put in one
o Food and drink was distributed
o Walked to school
o Philippine teachers
(14:07) Many of the other emigrants didn’t talk about their past
(14:33) Ms. Le’s sister was 100% Vietnamese
o Her mother remarried
o Her stepfather didn’t want to come to America; not sure why
(15:15) Ms. Le knew they were to be sent to Michigan, but wasn’t sure what it would be
like
o Said they were warmly welcomed when they landed at the Grand Rapids airport
in November
(16:11) Stayed in Hamilton for about 5 years before moving to Holland
(16:25) She and her mother cried a lot when they first moved because of their family
members back in Vietnam
o Weren’t sure if they were able to see them again
o Sister was too young to think about this stuff
o Her mom worked hard to get a driver’s license, job, and took ESL night classes
o Became a US citizen after 5 years
o Mother worked at a factory in Zeeland for 11-12 years
o Later worked with medicines
(18:09) Ms. Le started going to school when she arrived in Hamilton
o Graduated in 1990
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o Was in the top 10 of her class
o Went to Western Michigan University and earned a degree in accounting
Graduated in 1994
o When she first got to high school it was hard because of her English, but the
teachers spent extra time with her
(19:53) Says that in Vietnam she was considered to be a foreigner, but when she went
to America she was considered Vietnamese
(20:22) The first couple of years were very hard for Ms. Le, especially because of the
English
(20:37) Ms. Le’s husband is Vietnamese
o She met him in Holland
o His family was very welcoming towards her
(21:40) Watches national news every day and learns a lot from it
(22:08) Says she would love to go back and visit her Vietnamese family
o Wants to help Amerasian students there
(22:55) They have regular contact with family in Vietnam
o One time she and her husband and older child went to Vietnam to visit in 1997
(24:43) Her husband’s family is from an island off the coast of Vietnam
(25:45) Mentions that she used to sing in Vietnam
o The government used her singing abilities; at the time she didn’t realize she was
singing communist songs
(28:10) Ms. Le says she really appreciates the ODC program
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Veterans History Project
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Grand Valley State University. History Department
Description
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The Library of Congress established the Veterans History Project in 2001 to collect memories, accounts, and documents of U.S. war veterans from World War II and the Korean War, Vietnam War, and conflicts in the Middle East and elsewhere, and to preserve these stories for future generations. The GVSU History Department interviews are part of this work-in-progress, and may contain videos and audio recordings, transcripts and interview outlines, and related documents and photographs.
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1914-
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<a href="http://rightsstatements.org/page/InC/1.0/?language=en">In Copyright</a>
Subject
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Afghan War, 2001--Personal narratives, American
Iran Hostage Crisis, 1979-1981--Personal narratives, American
Korean War, 1950-1953--Personal narratives, American
Michigan--History, Military
Oral history
Persian Gulf War, 1991--Personal narratives, American
United States--History, Military
United States. Air Force
United States. Army
United States. Navy
Veterans
Video recordings
Vietnam War, 1961-1975--Personal narratives, American
World War, 1939-1945--Personal narratives, American
Publisher
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Grand Valley State University. University Libraries. Special Collections & University Archives
Contributor
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Smither, James
Boring, Frank
Relation
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Veterans History Project (U.S.)
Identifier
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RHC-27
Language
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eng
Source
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<a href="https://gvsu.lyrasistechnology.org/repositories/2/resources/455">Veterans History Project interviews (RHC-27)</a>
Oral History
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RHC-27_ChiLeL0494V
Title
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Le, Lan Chi (Interview outline and video), 2010
Date
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2010-01-07
Description
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Ms. Le was born in Saigon in 1970 to an American father and Vietnamese mother. Her father had to leave, and her mother struggled to make a living, especially when the communists took over. A program called ODC allowed them to leave Vietnam, go to the Philippines for orientation for 6 months and then move to America. Mastering the English language was a struggle at first, but Ms. Le worked hard and became very successful. She said she is grateful to the ODC program.
Creator
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Le, Lan Chi
Contributor
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Smither, James (Interviewer)
Subject
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Oral history
Veterans History Project (U.S.)
United States--History, Military
Michigan--History, Military
Veterans
Video recordings
Vietnam War, 1961-1975--Personal narratives, American
Other veterans & civilians--Personal narratives, American
Language
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eng
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Text
Moving Image
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<a href="https://gvsu.lyrasistechnology.org/repositories/2/resources/455">Veterans History Project collection, (RHC-27)</a>
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Grand Valley State University Libraries. Allendale, Michigan
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Veterans History Project (U.S.)
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application/pdf
video/mp4