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                    <text>Grand Valley State University
Veterans’ History Project
Robert Hoolsema
Cold War-Korean War Era
41 minutes 7 seconds
(00:00:10) Early Life
-Born in 1928 in Grand Rapids, Michigan in Blodgett Hospital
-Grew up in the Grand Rapids area
-Father was a carpenter
-During the Great Depression his father didn’t have any carpentry work
-Thirteen years before he went back to carpentry
-He had one sister
-His mother stayed at home
(00:01:09) World War II
-Cousin came over on December 7, 1941 and said Japan had bombed Pearl Harbor
-Followed the news of the war in the papers and the radio
-The war ended while he was still in high school
-Saved tin cans for the war effort
-Had air raid drills
-Neighbor and father were air raid wardens
-During an air raid drill a siren would sound and they’d turn their lights off
-Happened at night
-Never thought Grand Rapids would be bombed though
(00:03:37) Getting Drafted
-He graduated from high school in 1947
-Became a carpenter after high school
-Getting drafted interrupted that for a couple years
-He got drafted in mid-1950 not long after the Korean War started
-Sometime after June 25, 1950
(00:05:24) Korean War
-Remembers seeing pictures of the winter of 1950 in Korea during the war
-Didn’t pay as much attention to the Korean War as he did to World War II
(00:06:08) Basic Training
-Sent to Camp Carson, Colorado at the end of October, 1950
-Travelled to Detroit then, Fort Sheridan, Illinois then took a troop train to Camp Carson
-Met National Guardsmen from South Dakota
-Assigned to the 196th Regimental Combat Team
-Had to fill the ranks of the 196th with draftees
-He wound up training with a lot of men that he knew from Grand Rapids
-The men from South Dakota were welcoming and friendly
-Some were officers, some had fought in World War II
-He was part of a rifle company
-Trained to live in foxholes and to prepare for infantry warfare
-Started off with marching, learning to follow orders, running, and hiking

�-The area was dry and could be very hot, or very cold
-Also had to adjust to being 6,000 feet above sea level
-It was hard for him to adjust to Army living
-He complied with orders though
-The drill instructors were reasonable people
-He wound up spending nine months at Fort Carson
(00:13:41) Infantry Training
-Part of those nine months were spent in infantry training
-Trained with the M1 Garand rifle
-Familiarized himself with the .30 caliber and .50 caliber machine guns
-Trained with hand grenades
-Trained with the Browning Automatic Rifle, but didn’t do much with it
-Remembers that it was a heavy weapon
-Went on maneuvers in the foothills
-The artillery units would train by shooting over them as they advanced on a hill
-Also worked with tanks and “Weasels” (M29, tracked vehicle for traveling in the snow)
(00:16:44) Orders for Alaska
-Didn’t know if they’d be sent to Korea or not
-They eventually received orders to go to Alaska
-They kept receiving draftees that wound up getting sent to Korea
-The men that were sent to Korea were the ones that caused problems
(00:18:40) Downtime during Training
-Didn’t spend much time in Colorado Springs
-Did visit Denver on leave during the weekends
-Hitchhiked there and hitchhiked back
(00:19:49) Traveling to Alaska
-He was given five days of leave before being sent to Alaska
-The men were happy being sent to a place where they wouldn’t be shot at
-Took a train up to Seattle, Washington
-Spent five days there
-Boarded a troopship in Seattle and sailed north to Alaska
-Traveled via the Inland Passage to Haines, Alaska
(00:20:50) Maneuvers in Alaska and Canada
-After landing at Haines he and the 196th maneuvered through Yukon Territory
-Making their way towards Fort Richardson, Alaska
-The maneuver took about one month
-Did it in later summer/early fall 1951
-Remembers that it rained a lot and there were some nice days
-It was a 500 mile trek to Fort Richardson
-Traveled on foot as well as in trucks
-Took part in simulated combat with troops from Alaska
(00:22:36) Stationed at Fort Richardson
-Fort Richardson was near Anchorage
-They were supposed to be living in brand new, 500 man barracks
-They weren’t ready when they arrived
-Had to live in tents until late fall 1951

�-Moved into the new barracks when they were completed
-They continued to do drills and war games when they were settled in in Alaska
-Once winter came they were given skis
-Became ski troopers
-It was incredibly difficult
-Had to carry a 9 pound rifle and a 60 pound pack
-Did cross country skiing
-Only rifle companies became ski troopers
-Used snow shoes to get around as well
-The skis were easier for travel though
-The snow in Alaska stayed around, as opposed to gradually melting like it did in Michigan
-The snow was two – three feet deep on average
-It could get down to -40oF
-Had to watch for signs of frostbite on the face where it was most susceptible
-The coldest it got while he was in Alaska was -50oF
-They were working so hard that they were still sweating in the cold
-Had to camp out in the cold
-They had portable heaters
-The rations would freeze and had to be thawed
-Slept in sleeping bags on top of the snow because the ground was too cold
(00:29:38) Downtime in Alaska
-They had pool tables at the fort
-They were busy all day, so they would write letters at night
-Also had to was their own clothes, so “downtime” was used for that as well
-He would go into Anchorage which was still a frontier town
-Met a man who drove a semi-truck and would travel with him around Alaska
-The roads were unpaved, so sometimes they traveled on frozen riverbeds
-Alaska has changed since he was there
-The soldiers were treated well by the Alaskans, better than the Coloradoans
-This was because in Colorado Springs soldiers would cause trouble
-Some men would go hunting and fishing in Alaska
-They would use their bayonets to go spear fishing
-Some men would go rabbit hunting
-Allowed for a variety of food
(00:33:40) Cold War
-Remembers the Elmendorf Air Force Base was basically next door to Fort Richardson
-Fort Richardson’s purpose was to protect Elmendorf from being attacked by the Soviets
-They would have had to hold out for three days before reinforcements could arrive
-The only way the Russians could have successfully invaded would have been with paratroopers
-In retrospect this seemed ridiculous
-Also monitored Soviet troop movements in Siberia
(00:36:01) End of Service
-Stayed in Alaska for thirteen months (time in Alaska most likely ended in late 1952)
-He was sent back to Camp Carson and was discharged from there
-A lot of the men he served with were discharged at the same time

�(00:36:53) Life after the Army
-He returned to Grand Rapids and continued to work as a carpenter
-He worked for a contractor then started his own contracting business
-He bought a furniture factory and ran that for twenty years
-Retired after that
-Made chairs and then did wood bending
-His sons run the factory now
(00:38:45) Reflections on Service
-His service was good for him
-Maybe not good for everyone though
-It taught him to appreciate being a civilian
-It taught him good values
-Learning how to live with different people and get along with them
-He gained life experience and independence
-It helped him later when he went into business
-He met a lot of men that were good to serve with

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Ralph Hauenstein
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(00:03:03) Beginning of Military Service
-Working as a city editor [for Grand Rapids Herald] in Grand Rapids, Michigan before the war
-Called into service by the War Department in September 1940
-He was a reserve officer at the time
-Sent to Fort Sheridan, Illinois
-This was the beginning of his duty as an intelligence officer
-At the time the Army’s intelligence capabilities were very limited
-He was made the Public Relations officer for Fort Sheridan
-He worked alongside intelligence officers
-Worked with an intelligence officer who had worked in the FBI
-His duty as a PR officer was to insure that Fort Sheridan had a good public reputation
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-A soldier had been stealing gas, and smoking a cigarette while doing so
-Worked in conjunction with Great Lakes Naval Station, Illinois
-Acted as a liaison for the Army with the Naval intelligence there
-Another job was to work in counter subversive operations
-Select an informant from the lower ranks to report any subversive talk among soldiers
-He felt that it was insidious
-Eventually the operation was eliminated
-At the time he had access to top secret radar detection systems
-This was because one of Fort Sheridan’s primary duties was antiaircraft
-When the machines arrived they were broken
-It was initially thought to be the work of sabotage
-Learned that it was just poor materials
(00:09:27) Deployment to Iceland
-He learned early on that the United States would eventually get into the war
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-They were going to relieve British troops that had occupied Iceland
-Iceland was technically in the zone of combat
-The objective in going to Iceland was to stop Germany from taking over Iceland
-If Iceland was lost German U-Boats could work from there to stop supply convoys
-The British that they were relieving had been the ones that fought at Dunkirk, France
-Went to Iceland in September 1941
-His assignment was to be an assistant G2 (intelligence) officer
(00:13:00) Awareness of the War
-He was convinced early on that the United States would go to war

�-Thought that it would be because of German aggression, not Japanese aggression
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-This happened before the U.S. was even formally in the war
-He had to take an Icelandic tug boat out to where the ship had been attacked
-He made a report to be sent back to President Roosevelt
-Tried to keep the incident quiet in Iceland so that the news couldn’t report on it
-Had the news reported on it the U.S. could have gone to war much earlier
(00:15:14) Living Conditions in Iceland
-Slept in Nissen huts
-Helped build up the infrastructure of Iceland
-Building roads and setting up telephone lines
-Had to live on spam for a few months
-He worked with a good staff in Iceland
(00:17:16) Start of the War
-He was largely unsurprised that the United States was finally dragged into the war
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-Immediately concerned about a possible German attack on Iceland
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-Had to hope that the British Navy would be able to aid them if necessary
-Early on Germany began to send over bombers to gather intelligence
-If they flew low enough to take accurate photographs they were shot down
-He was sent to investigate a German bomber that had been shot down over the glacier
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-He was sent to London to deliver the code book to the British intelligence
-They realized the value of what had been found
(00:20:47) Wartime Operations in Iceland
-The main purpose of forces in Iceland was antisubmarine warfare
-Remembers watching convoys of 50 ships being sent to aid the Russians
-Only seven or eight would return
-He was promoted to be the commanding intelligence officer in Iceland
-Worked as the liaison between Washington D.C. and London
-Part of his new duty was to oversee the recon operations being carried out in Norway
-Worked with Norwegian troops that had retreated to Iceland
-Helped them infiltrate Norway to gather intelligence on German forces there
-Began working with two Norwegian agents: Beetle and Cobweb
-They would later become instrumental in the success of D-Day
(00:23:20) Transfer to London
-He expected to be sent back to the United States in 1943
-Instead he was transferred to London to begin working on a special mission
-He was placed on an intelligence task force to handle the invasion of France
-Planning the intelligence aspects of the invasion
-Working with French resistance groups to aid in the invasion
-When he got to England he was allowed some leave time in London
-His task was to plan a phantom invasion of France
-A ruse to distract the Germans from Russia long enough for Russia to counterattack

�-Unfortunately Germany didn’t take the bait and stayed in Russia
-His new position in London was to be the assistant to the chief of the Intelligence Branch
-Worked with him on numerous projects, but namely D-Day
-Placing new officers in new positions created in the Army
-Translators, interpreters, and intelligence officers specifically
-Worked in the G2 (intelligence) and G3 (operations) sectors of the Army
-For the most part the British had commandeered the intelligence operations of the war
-Relied on a “bodyguard of lies” to protect the truth
-Essentially, deceive the Germans as much as possible to trick them into making mistakes
(00:29:29) Intelligence Operations in London
-Project Bodyguard was a two part intelligence operation
-Fortitude which focused on Northern Europe
-Zeppelin which focused on Southern Europe
-He would liaison with British intelligence staff, but worked with an American staff
-Aided by the British “Body of Twelve”
-Designed plans to deceive the Germans
-Submitted the plans to American intelligence to review
-Look for any possible flaws or logistic problems
(00:32:54) Operation Fortitude
-He helped work on the plan to convince Germany the invasion would happen at Pas de Calais
-Had to insure that 2,000 German tanks were kept away from Normandy
-Specifically wanted to deceive Hitler into staying away from Normandy
-They were always successful in tricking Hitler
-They were able to know what the Germans were going to do, before they actually did it
-Used British “Ultras” to intercept communications between Axis leaders
-Always made sure to never underestimate Hitler
-Managed to keep the bulk of Hitler’s forces in Norway and Denmark and out of France
-Created “phantom” divisions and real divisions of troops as part of the deception
-Managed to convince Hitler that the invasion would happen through Norway
-Worked in conjunction with the Russians and the Swedes to pull this off
-Started setting up a phantom division in southeast England to be led by Patton
-Used inflatable vehicles and mannequins to convince German recon aircraft
-Relied on the help of German double agents to gather intelligence from occupied Europe
-Convinced Germany that nonexistent forces were going to be involved with the invasion
(00:40:48) Preparing for D-Day
-On the eve of the invasion the biggest concern was whether it would be successful or not
-Took part in a council of intelligence officers from the U.S. and the British Empire
-Organized by Lord Mountbatten
-He was one of the two American officers at the council
-Addressed the council and told them that battleships would be needed for the invasion
-His idea was dismissed at first, but later implemented
-Held in the Scottish Highlands
-Watched as British Royal Marines prepared to scale the cliffs of Normandy
(00:43:05) Logistics of D-Day and the Liberation of France
-The logistical preparations were led by General CH Lee
-Convinced Hitler that they would invade with 87 infantry divisions and 7 airborne divisions

�-In reality they only had 37 infantry divisions and 5 airborne divisions
-The only logistical problem during the French liberation was the gasoline supply
-Patton was advancing so quickly they couldn’t keep his vehicles fueled
(00:45:10) D-Day
-On June 6, 1944 he was in the war room watching Operation Overlord play out
-It was a somber environment
-Everything wound up going according to plan for the most part
-The only snag was a German reserve infantry division showed up at the last minute
-Had gone up to Normandy to train and was there during the invasion
-Another problem was that some troops were being unloaded too quickly
-Got dropped off in high water and drowned
-Began receiving reports that the bombardment and paratrooper missions had gone well
-He knew at the end of the first day that this was the beginning of the end for Germany
-Received reports that the French resistance had done their part in aiding the invasion
-They had managed to destroy roads and railroads necessary for German movement
(00:48:51) Liberation of France
-After D-Day the next major strategic moves would be in the hands of Allied generals
-The intelligence forces were able to keep a good order of battle
-Basically knowing exactly where Allied and German forces were at all times
-His job became to oversee the analysis of aerial photographs and the interrogation of prisoners
-He was sent to Normandy and from there flew into Paris
-Landed at a soccer field
-Met with the French Forces of the Interior who escorted him through Paris
-It was a grandiose entrance for the French forces to reenter Paris
-He was taken to the Majestic Hotel in Paris which had served as the German headquarters
-He converted it into his own intelligence headquarters
-Throughout the war gathered intelligence about newly liberated areas
(00:53:17) Battle of the Bulge
-By December 1944 he knew that Hitler would ultimately be defeated
-The only reason Hitler’s bulge strategy worked was because of communication discipline
-He had ordered all German units to maintain a communications blackout
-As a result that is why the German offensive caught the Allies off guard
-After the Bulge failed in January 1945 Hitler was, for all intents and purposes, defeated
-Knew it was just a matter of crushing German opposition
(00:54:43) Beginning of the Cold War
-As World War II neared its end he could see the Russian advance across Europe
-There was concern that the USSR would turn on the Allies and start a whole new war
-Stemmed from Russian troops occupying areas they were not supposed to occupy
-Patton wanted to strike Russia first as soon as the war with Germany was over
(00:56:10) End of the War
-At the end of the war in Europe there was a chance he’d be involved in the invasion of Japan
-There were concerns about morale for infantrymen that were going to be redeployed
-At the end of the war he was back in the United States working in the War Department
-Helping to get the CIA established and the placement of intelligence officers
-He was anxious for the war to come to a complete end and to get out of the Army
-The main purpose in establishing the CIA was to insure the U.S. had a concrete intel service

�-At the start of the war there had been nothing until the OSS came along
-The OSS being the precursor to the CIA
-He was overjoyed when the war finally came to an end
-At the end of it didn’t think of himself as being anyone that special in the war effort
-Just one man that was part of a larger force for a higher good
-Feels there are so many heroes that suffered so much for the cause
(01:00:27) Meeting with German Officials and the Holocaust
-At the end of the war he was involved with interrogating German officers
-The purpose was to gather as much intelligence from them as possible
-He met with Field Marshal Von Rundstedt of the Wehrmacht
-Amicable to talk with
-Von Rundstedt had wanted to surrender even before D-Day had happened
-Confessed that he had had no faith in Hitler whatsoever
-Said that he should have stayed in the mountains tending a farm
-Met Herman Goering commander of the Luftwaffe
-Found him fat, arrogant, and narcissistic
-He was part of the Allied force that liberated Dachau
-Saw the unbelievable atrocities that the Nazis had committed
-Saw rooms filled with corpses and lye waiting to be burned or buried
-Saw the gold fillings ripped from the mouths of victims
(01:05:19) Postwar Duty and Reflections
-One of his last duties was to help with the organization of the occupying force of Germany
-Getting intelligence officers from the U.S. to Europe and in position
-Felt a sense of accomplishment with the war being over
-Went from working behind a desk becoming a colonel in the Army
-Because of what they achieved there was a sense of accomplishment in everyone
01:08:38 INTERVIEW ENDS

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Korean War
Jack Harris
Length of interview (00:45:32)
(00:00:18) Introduction &amp; Pre-War Life
 Childhood (00:00:18)
o
Born in Lucas, Ohio to a family of farmers in 1933
o
Father was a bootlegger
o
He was seven when World War II started
 Education (00:01:38)
o
Attended High School in Buckley, Michigan, south of Traverse City
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He then went to Michigan State
 Remembering World War II (00:02:30)
o
He remembers seeing newsboys selling extras right after Pearl Harbor was
attacked
o
His father entered the army, serving in Italy as a cook in Patton’s army
 Korean War Era (00:04:35)
o
He finished high school in 1951
o
Jack was in the ROTC while at Michigan State
o
He struggled with college and eventually dropped out and was almost
immediately was drafted into the army in April of 1953
(00:06:00) Training
 Jack went to Camp Atterbury, Indiana, for basic training (00:07:55)
o
He remembers it being a rather active training camp, having maybe as much as
30,000 troops there at one time
o
Jack had sixteen weeks of basic infantry training
 How to throw grenades, shoot a machine gun, how to use a bayonet, and
rifle training
o
He remembers having no fear of going to Korea
 He was in his fifteenth week of infantry training when news of the armistice came
(00:09:25)
 He was on a march to where they were going to bivouac when a jeep came up and the
driver announced “it’s over”
 Jack remembers that after the armistice, training was pretty loose and the army had
difficulty with discipline (00:10:04)
o
He remembers that discipline was relatively lax to begin with
o
Jack also remembers some corruption at the camp, with the officers giving men
leave and then renting their cars to them so they could travel to Detroit for $50 to
$100 a piece
 Most of the camp cadre had been to Korea (00:11:37)
 Jack remembers there being propaganda that they were soon going to have to fight the
Russians and they had to be ready, however he and most of the men knew this wasn’t
likely to happen (00:12:16)

� After basic, Jack was assigned to keeping the fires going in a coal fire furnace that heated
the barracks (00:13:00)
 Jack was interviewed by a corporal, who was trying to figure out where to send him
(00:14:08)
o
During the interview the two built a rapport and the corporal moved him from
the list of men being sent to Korea to the list of men being sent to Europe
(00:15:15) Atlantic Voyage and Active Service
 He reported to Camp Kilmer, New Jersey, getting there by train, before being sent to
Europe on a troop ship (00:15:20)
o
Spent ten days crossing the Atlantic
o
He remembers the weather being spring-like
o
Jack was sea sick for some of the voyage
 They landed at Bremerhaven, Germany where the men were then dispersed in Germany
(00:16:37)
 Jack was sent to Frankfurt, Germany (00:16:56)
o
Germans were very friendly towards Americans
o
He was a part of a German-American club, which was a social club with
German citizens, American serviceman, and German students
 He was assigned to the 4th Infantry Division (00:17:40)
o
Jack doesn’t remember himself as being a very good soldier, never making it
farther than private first class
 Jack was assigned to division ordnance, where they had him keep track of where all the
division’s broken down vehicles were (00:18:35)
 He stayed in what had been a German barracks in Frankfurt (00:19:25)
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He recalls going by the opera house, which was a shell of a building, having
been hit with fire bombs during World War II
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There was still a lot of destruction left over from World War II despite the
rebuilding that was going on
 They were on combat alert at least once a month, treating the alert as if war had been
declared (00:20:55)
 Jack had thirty days of leave that he used to travel Europe (00:21:27)
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The cost of travel was very little with his military pass
o
Jack also remembers the black market being big in Europe at the time and the
American dollar having high value
 Jack served with primarily other draftees who were quickly processed and discharged
(00:23:00)
 Jack remembered having a Major who was reverted back down to Sergeant First Class after
the Korean War (00:23:34)
o
Promotion could be rapid in war time, but with the war over the Army was
diminishing in size and there were a lot of cut backs
 Having grown up in Northern Michigan, Jack’s service in the Army was his first time
around African Americans (00:24:15)
 Jack recalls more of his training
o
He recalls half of the men in his basic training group were from poor African
Americans from Detroit
o
He remembers getting along with the other men well

� Prostitution was wide-spread in Germany due to the lack of jobs (00:26:20)
 Almost all the officers and non-commissioned officers had German girlfriends, which were
called “Class B Dependents” (00:26:40)
o
Not all of these women were prostitutes however and some serious
relationships did develop
 Jack never really learned much German, because most of the Germans spoke English
(00:27:40)
 Jack was deployed in Germany for a year, roughly half his time in the service (00:30:00)
 He was anxious to get out of the army, because he knew that he had the GI bill to take
advantage of when he returned home (00:30:20)
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The GI bill paid for his education nearly all the way through his master’s
degree
o
He remembers the GI bill wasn’t a lot of money, but due to the relatively low
cost of college, that didn’t matter
(00:32:20) Returning Home and Post-War Life
 Although some of the men were flown back to the United States, Jack had to take a troop
ship home (00:32:30)
 Jack was discharged in Chicago at Great Lakes Training Base, having disembarked from
New Jersey and taking a train to Illinois (00:33:07)
 He immediately returned to college after being discharged (00:33:50)
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Jack was a much better student this time as he was more mature and serious
about his education
o
Initially, he went to a community college in Traverse City, earning an
associates degree
o
Jack returned to Michigan State where he earned a baccalaureate degree in
political science and a teaching certificate
 Jack spent his first five years as a teacher, first teaching government and then later English
and social studies (00:35:46)
 Making very little money, Jack took a series of different jobs (00:36:38)
 Jack eventually returned to education after returning to school and earning a master’s
degree (00:37:14)
 Jack feels that his time in the Army was beneficial for him, especially because of the GI
bill, although he didn’t enjoy it at the time (00:38:15)
 He remembers that during the Korean War Era, he and most of the other men viewed the
war as “the right thing to do” (00:39:10)
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Jack did not feel the same way about the Vietnam War and shared the growing
sentiment that it was “not the right thing to do”
o
He recalls Kent State happening during his years in graduate school and
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George Gordon
World War II
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(00:00:22) Early Life
-Born in Evanston, Illinois in 1925
-Raised in Lacrosse, Wisconsin and Winnetka, Illinois
-Graduated from high school in 1943
-Father was initially a beer distributor for Heileman Brewing Company
-Later went on to become a stock broker for Ashland Oil Company
-Had three brothers
-Remembers that the family had a cottage in Wisconsin
(00:03:06) Start of World War II and Enlisting in the Marines
-Head about the news concerning Pearl Harbor that Sunday night
-Didn’t know anything about Pearl Harbor prior to the bombing
-Gas rationing took effect quickly after the United States entered the war
-Had to do a lot of walking just to accomplish every day errands
-He was made aware of the war by the personal impact that it had on his life with rationing
-Prior to Pearl Harbor he hadn’t followed the war in Europe
-In April 1943 he was drafted by the Army
-On the way to being sworn into the Army the Marine Corps offered him a chance to enlist
-Changed his mind and decided to enlist in the Marines instead
(00:06:35) Marine Corps Boot Camp
-Went to boot camp in San Diego
-Didn’t do so well with rifle training because of bad knees
-The Marines desperately needed new soldiers so he qualified as a sharpshooter anyway
-Got to boot camp by way of train
-After twelve weeks of training he was allowed for a short leave home
-Went on marches in the mountains around Camp Pendleton, California
-Most men actually enjoyed being in boot camp
-They were given three square meals a day and a bed to sleep in
-Specialized with the Browning Automatic Rifle (BAR)
-Remembers that there was competition between the training platoons
-Who could do a training task better, who would be rewarded, etc.
-Main emphasis was discipline and following orders
(00:14:37) Deployment to Guadalcanal
-In December 1943 he was sent to Guadalcanal in the Pacific Ocean
-He was assigned to C Company 1st Battalion 3rd Marine Regiment 3rd Marine Division
-Remembers that his lieutenant had been an editor for the San Francisco Chronicle
-Had gotten to Guadalcanal after being sent over from New Caledonia by way of transport
-Noticed that older men didn’t deal with deployment as well as the younger men did
-While he was in Guadalcanal he developed a serious infection
-While at Guadalcanal they received additional training for fighting in the Pacific

�-Learned that he was incredibly adept at throwing grenades
-Broke a Marine Corps distance record
(00:20:21) Marianas Islands Campaign-Landing on Guam
-In June 1944 he boarded an LST (landing ship tank) bound for the Marianas Islands
-Lieutenant got a personal letter from General Teddy Roosevelt Jr. before landing
-Landed at Guam
-LSTs were being protected by a destroyer
-Still took a hit from a Japanese dive bomber
-Before the landing at Guam they ran out of cigarettes
-He was part of the third wave in
-Still took Japanese artillery fire
-Japanese had already been pushed off the beach by the first two waves
-Abandoned his BAR and instead chose to help wounded down a hill back to the beach
-Later got hit by several banzai attacks without any kind of rifle to defend himself with
-Remembers that the Japanese were using dud grenades
-He was finally able to find an M1 Carbine to use for the time being
-Shot and killed a charging Japanese lieutenant colonel
-Noticed that the lieutenant colonel was attempting to become a suicide bomber
(00:33:45) Marianas Islands Campaign-Silver Star on Guam
-After getting established on Guam he and his unit were sent out to relieve an outpost
-They were set up in a skirmish line to attack a Japanese position
-Miscommunication led him to initially going out on his own
-Was able to get back to his own line without alerting the enemy
-Eventually the skirmish line pushed forward to engage a Japanese machine gun position
-He wound up running straight towards the machine gun position and got separated from his unit
-Only had two grenades on him
-Used last two grenades and two live ones that he found to neutralize the machine gun
-For destroying the position on his own he was awarded the Silver Star
(00:44:10) Marianas Islands Campaign-Other Details on Guam
-Spent a lot of time hunting down the Japanese forces on the island
-Given alcohol one time by a doctor to relieve his fatigue
-Wasn’t a drinker at the time and was able to fall asleep in his foxhole
-He wound up being able to sleep through a firefight between Japanese and Marines
-Spent three days in a hospital because of having dengue fever
-Spent most of his time on Guam going out on patrols
(00:48:33) Iwo Jima
-After Guam he and his unit were sent over to participate in the invasion of Iwo Jima
-Remembers that it was a hellish looking place
-Ugly island with nowhere to find cover from fire
-Soldiers welcomed getting horrendously wounded just to be off the island
-Remembers seeing amputees that were happy to be done with fighting
-Remembers that even after Mount Suribachi fell the Japanese continued to fight on
-Almost had to land on Iwo Jima
-His unit was being sent in, but after a logistics mix up his unit was sent back to the ship
-The plan from there on out was to keep his regiment on hand as a reserve unit
-Worked with cargo on board the ship during the Iwo Jima Campaign

�(00:56:29) Return to Guam
-In later 1945 after Iwo Jima he and his unit were sent back to the northwest part of Guam
-Mission was to help clear out the 7,500 Japanese that were still at large on the island
-Placed in charge of his squad
-Ran into a Japanese suicide bomber
-Was able to kill him before he could detonate the grenade that he was holding
-Eventually was able to clear out the remaining Japanese on the island
-Remembers that Guam had a diverse mix of terrains
-Red soil, arid places; jungle; and beautiful beaches
-His platoon was sent to a hill as a show of force for the higher command
-They weren’t supposed to be near the hill, but were because of miscommunication
-American artillery barrage wound up killing half of the platoon in a friendly fire incident
(01:05:24) Interactions with Non-Americans and Foreign Experiences
-Didn’t interact very much with the native Chamorro people on Guam
-They were U.S. friendly, but they didn’t exactly like the U.S. presence either
-Knew that they actively fought against the Japanese though
-Heard about one Chamorro farmer killing a group of Japanese soldiers
-Caught them on his farm and hanged their bodies
-He and the other Marines were allowed to eat the native fruit on Guam
-Got to know some of the native farmers on Guam
-Got to know some of the Korean forced laborers that they liberated from the Japanese
-Very friendly towards Americans
-Saw the Marines as liberators and allies
(01:09:03) End of the War and Coming Home
-Got back to the United States on December 14, 1945
-Landed in San Diego
-Went back to Chicago by way of train
-Didn’t have any overcoats provided to them even in the dead of winter
-Had been kept on Guam even after the bombs were dropped
-Serving as a U.S. presence there
-They had also been training for the planned invasion of Japan
-Sent to Great Lakes Naval Academy in Chicago and was discharged from there
-His father picked him up in Chicago and brought him home to Winnetka, Illinois
(01:14:22) Life after the War
-In early 1946 he enrolled in and attended Cornell University in Ithaca, New York
-Graduated after attending for four years
-Went to work for the same company as his father
-After that got involved with Standard Oil of Indiana (renamed: Amoco, now part of BP)
-Worked in Grand Rapids and Detroit, Michigan as well as in Chicago
-Met his wife while working for Standard Oil
-Settled permanently in Grand Rapids, Michigan in 1955 (or 1960)
(01:16:59) Reflections on Service
-Learned that sometimes you have to have faith in fate
-No amount of training is ever too much training to prepare you for something
-Happy and feels lucky that he was able to avoid some of the worst landings in the Pacific
-Combat experience taught him to listen to intuition

�-Feels that instinct and intuition saved him when he destroyed the machine gun on Guam

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Veterans’ History Project
William Gerber
World War II
1 hour 20 minutes 22 seconds
(00:00:09) Early Life
-Born on June 26, 1921 in Menominee, Michigan
-Had three brothers (two were twins and one was a single brother)
-Grew up on a farm near Menominee
-Attended a country school until the sixth grade
-Moved into town to attend middle school and high school
-Graduated from high school in 1939
-Father had worked as a mechanic
-He was a WWI Navy veteran
-Mother was a home maker
(00:03:58) U.S. Citizens Training Corps
-In August 1938 he received military training through the U.S. Citizens Training Corps
-Went to Fort Brady, Michigan near Sault Ste. Marie
-Training lasted four weeks
-Trained from six in the morning to eight at night
(00:05:24) National Park Service and Beginning of the War
-After high school was sent to Houghton, Michigan as part of National Youth Administration
-Received training about radios there and learned Morse code as well as radio technology
-Got appointed to be the radio technician for the National Park Service at Isle Royale
-Arrived at Isle Royale on December 6, 1941
-They had access to a radio and heard about the attack at Pearl Harbor the next day
-They weren’t allowed to leave the island to enlist or do anything like that
-Stationed on the island until the spring of 1942
-During the week they would patrol the island
-After Pearl Harbor he had to encode all radio transmissions
-Left Isle Royale in May 1942
(00:14:58) Returning to Menominee and Hospital Job
-Returned home to Menominee after being on station at Isle Royale
-Got a job at the nearby Marinette General Hospital in Marinette, Wisconsin
-Lived at the hospital
-On duty for eight hours a day and on call for the other sixteen hours
-Worked as a medical technician on the ambulances
-Worked at the hospital from May 1942 to July 1942
-Remembers one ambulance call where a woman suffered a head injury at a farm
-He was driving the ambulance for that call
-Nurse on board made it clear that he wasn’t going fast enough
-Wound up going 65mph through the town to get back to the hospital
(00:19:36) Getting Drafted and Basic Training
-In July 1942 he was drafted into the Army

�-Reported for basic training on the fourth or fifth of August 1942
-Went to Fort Custer, Michigan to be inducted into the Army and to go through processing
-From Fort Custer he was sent to Fort Story, Virginia
-Training he received through Citizens Training Corps proved to be extremely helpful
-Got promoted to the rank of corporal after being in the Army for only six weeks
-Told that his Citizens Training Corps training had effectively been basic training
(00:21:52) Radio Training
-Because of his experience with radios he was placed into the radio training program
-Wound up receiving a total of five months-worth of radio training in the Army
-Got sent to radar school at Fort Monroe, Virginia
-Six weeks of intense training
-Equipment they were using was top secret at the time
-Day started at eight in the morning and ended at nine at night
-Radar unit got broken up and he was placed in field artillery training
-Got sent to Fort Chaffee, Arkansas
-Received his field artillery training there
-Had less work to do than the other trainees because of prior training experience
-Got trained on how to be a radio operator for field artillery units
-Job was to receive codes and coordinates and relay that information to gun crews
-Stayed at Fort Chaffee for a couple months
(00:25:13) Deployment to Europe and Overview of Deployment
-He was assigned to the 663rd Field Artillery Battalion
-From Fort Chaffee they were sent to New York City and from New York got sent to England
-By the time they arrived in England it was spring 1944
-Eight weeks after the D-Day Invasion his unit landed at Omaha Beach in France
-His unit was involved in the Allied offensive in the Rhineland and pushing into Germany
-Eight inch howitzers were the primary artillery pieces that they used
-Got to go through Paris en route to the Rhineland
-His unit was one of the first to fire across the Rhine River into Germany
-Offensive began in late 1944/early 1945
(00:32:49) Personal Responsibilities and Experience with Combat
-His task was to act as a liaison between the forward observers and the gun crews
-Transmitted the coordinates from the forward observers to the plotters
-Gun crews were usually made up of six to eight men
-There were three guns to each battery
-Had to sleep wherever you could
-Unit moved forward every day if an advance was possible
-They were usually just behind the frontline if not within eyesight of the main fighting
-If they and the infantry were able to break through German defenses they would advance
-Germans never got very close to the artillery position
-Usually had Allied infantry between them and the Germans
-His unit didn’t sustain any casualties that he knew of
-He himself didn’t get wounded during his time in Europe
(00:37:24) Interactions with Civilians Pt. 1
-Remembers moving into liberated towns and being greeted by the civilians
-Civilians would come right up to Allied troops and give them hugs

�-They knew that they had finally been liberated from German rule
-He had never seen so many happy people in his life
(00:38:20) Logistics of Deployment
-When they were deployed to Europe the equipment and personnel were moved over together
-From England they had traveled to France aboard a larger landing craft (LCT or LST)
-Able to pull right up to Omaha Beach and unload soldiers and equipment right onto the beach
(00:40:01) Battle of the Bulge
-Got involved in the Battle of the Bulge in the winter of 1944-45
-Unit acted as artillery support for the infantry units under siege in Bastogne, Belgium
-They were only about five miles away (at the most) from where the main fighting was occurring
(00:41:09) Interactions with Civilians Pt. 2
-Remembers the French women being very welcoming of the U.S. troops
-Children would also come running up to the U.S. troops to give them hugs
-Moving experience for the soldiers that had children of their own back home
(00:42:27) Battle of the Rhineland and Pushing into Germany
-Pushed across the Rhine River in early 1945
-Eventually made it all the way to Berlin
-Supported infantry during the offensive all the way up to Victory in Europe Day (May 6, 1945)
-Some of the Germans welcomed the U.S Army and the end of the war
-Others were resentful about being occupied
-In time they eventually accepted the reality that they had been defeated
(00:43:58) Coming Home and End of Active Duty
-Returned to the United States as individuals and not as a single unit
-Got sent home depending on how many “points” you had
-Point system: Acquired points depending on length of service and action seen
-Landed in New York City and got sent to Camp Kilmer, New Jersey
-From Camp Kilmer took a train to Fort Custer, Michigan
-Got processed out there and was discharged from active duty in February 1946
-From Fort Custer took a train to Chicago and from Chicago took a train back to Menominee
(00:46:44) Involvement with the American Legion
-Upon arriving home he joined the American Legion in Menominee
-Has been a life member of the Legion ever since
-Became vice commander of the American Legion post at Menominee
-During his time with the American Legion helped in any way he could
-Doing odd jobs and a variety of tasks for the post
-Had a couple hundred members at the post that he was a part of
(00:48:29) Life after the War
-Attended Spartan School of Aeronautics in Tulsa, Oklahoma for two years
-Studied general commercial radio with a focus on radio engineering
-Also received his radio license through them
-Spent some time in Oklahoma City
-During his time there met a girl and met that girl’s sister
-Wound up marrying the sister and stayed married for twenty five years and eight months
-She died in 1973 and he never remarried
-“Never ran into anybody that could replace her”
-After completing his radio studies and getting married he returned to Menominee, Michigan

�-Got a job at WMAM radio station out of Marinette, Wisconsin
-Acted as both their radio and TV engineer
-Also worked at their satellite station in Manistique, Michigan
-Stayed with WMAM for several years
-Got a job in the Michigan State Police through his twin brothers who worked for the police
-Started at Houghton Lake, Michigan as a radio operator
-Stayed there for about half a decade
-From Houghton Lake got transferred to Rockford, Michigan
-Worked there for twenty five years until he retired in 1974
(00:54:38) Morale and Conditions in the Field during the War
-Stayed in touch with family by way of V-Mail (Victory Mail)
-Form of military sponsored postage that used microfilm to make shipping more efficient
-Had a mess sergeant for their unit who was very particular about the quality of food
-He was such a good cook that a general wanted him to be his personal chef
-Refused the offer, so the general would come down and eat with the enlisted men
-Also very strict with the cooks that worked for him
-If food was not prepared to his liking he would force them to redo it
-Never had any problems with having enough supplies
-Didn’t feel stressed during his time in Europe just tried to take everything in stride
(00:58:38) Downtime and Entertainment in Europe
-Everyone had their own form of entertainment
-On the first New Years that he was in the Army he got into a poker game
-Won five paychecks even though he’d never played poker before
-Got to see some of the USO Shows
-Some were good, some were bad, and some he was indifferent about
-Soldiers were allowed to take leave into nearby towns
-Grew up speaking Danish, German and English so he could talk to German civilians
-Germans were surprised that so many Americans could speak German
-He was able to visit Paris and various small towns during his time in Europe
(01:04:58) Relationship with Officers and Fellow Soldiers
-Held officers and the other enlisted men in high regards
-There were a few officers in particular that were good leaders and good men
-Didn’t keep in touch with anyone that he served with after the war
-Men that he served with were from all over the country
-Too difficult to maintain a friendship with someone that lived hundreds of miles away
(01:07:53) Involvement with the Veterans of Foreign Wars and American Legion
-Belonged to the Veterans of Foreign Wars for a while when he lived in Menominee
-Not all that he thought it would be
-Kept his American Legion membership no matter where he was transferred
-Officially remained a registered member of the Menominee post
-If he walked into a local American Legion post with his hat on people didn’t question it
-Didn’t bother to transfer his membership to the Houghton Lake or Rockford post
(01:09:03) Army Reserves and Korean War
-Stayed in the Army Reserves after WWII
-Didn’t seek out warfare, but if he was needed to fight he was willing to go
-When the Korean War broke out he was called to active duty and was sent to Japan

�-Due to security clearance issues he wasn’t allowed to be sent to Korea though
-Stayed in Japan for a year until he was sent back home
-Retired from the Army Reserves in 1967
-Spent a total of twenty five years in the Army
(01:12:07) Life after State Police
-Retired from the State Police in 1974 in Rockford after serving them for twenty five years
-After retiring from the Michigan State Police he worked odd jobs for various people
-Anything that came along he was willing to help out with
-Experience in the Army and in the Boy Scouts had taught him a wide array of abilities
-He’d been very active in the Scouts as a youth and as a parent
(01:14:34) Reflections on Service
-The abilities that he’d learned in the Army transferred well into civilian life
-His service in the Army instilled in him a sense of community and selflessness
-If his help was needed then he would pitch and help where he could
-Saw it all as just something that had to be done and he did it

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(00:00:14) Early Life
-Born in Winnipeg, Canada on July 17, 1921
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-Moved to Saint Joseph, Michigan
-Parents were farmers
-Had a small plot of land and worked that during the Great Depression
-He had nine siblings
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(00:02:03) Start of the War
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-Initially wasn't too concerned
(00:03:21) Getting Drafted
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-Already started receiving orders
-Wasn't a problem for him because he was expecting it
(00:04:48) Basic Training
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-High emphasis on discipline
-Adjusted to the Army pretty well
-Received some rifle training
-Lasted six weeks
-Got weekend passes home
-Took the interpreter test near the end of basic training
(00:08:19) Stationed at Fort Custer
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1942
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�-Interacted more with regular German soldiers
-Most were between eighteen and twenty years old
-Some could understand English
-Most seemed very content with where they were
-His job was to ask them basic questions when they were brought in to be processed
-When he was done with them he would turn them over to the military police
-They were all very cooperative
-Never saw any prisoners being used for simple tasks or menial labor
-Had a lot of free time
-It was relaxed duty
-Lived in Army quarters and was fed good food
-Never noticed any civilians coming down to look at the prisoners of war
(00:14:16) Stationed in Santa Ana
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-Working as an interpreter
-No real difference with the prisoners being kept there
-None of them appeared to be unhappy, and they were being treated well
-Continued to deal with regular German prisoners
-Got out to California by bus
-Took about three weeks to cross the country
-Stopped in Army camps along the way
-Never heard anything about the internment camps for the Japanese
-Kept a secret
-Had good conditions at the prisoner of war camp because it was fairly new
-Got to visit Los Angeles and San Francisco
-Interesting for a serviceman and got treated well
-Saw some USO Shows
-Lived with a family off the base
-Didn't have to live on the base if he didn't want to
-Rationing was very noticeable
-Rationed food, sugar, coffee, and gasoline
-Tried to make life as comfortable as possible with the circumstances at hand for the
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-The prisoners introduced him to soccer
-He enjoyed playing soccer
(00:21:10) News &amp; Progress of the War
-Kept up with the news of the war
-Never concerned about being deployed to the European Theatre to work as an interpreter
-Had some black outs at night
-Nothing too involved though
-Never thought that the United States and the Allies were going to lose the war
-Victory always seemed assured
(00:23:25) End of the War
-Victory in Europe Day (May 8, 1945) was a pleasant day
-Even the German prisoners were happy that the war was over

�-A lot of them were trying to get out Germany
-Many of them didn't seem to have much loyalty to Hitler or the Nazi
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-On Victory in Japan Day (August 15, 1945) it was "jubilation"
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-A lot of them were content to stay in the U.S. and wanted to stay
-Especially the case for those going to Soviet occupied Germany
(00:26:17) End of Service &amp; Life after the War
-In Santa Ana until he got discharged in November 1945
-Just had to wait around to get a ride back to Michigan
-Went back to Central Michigan University
-Studied teaching social studies and business math
-Graduated in the late 1940s (1946 or 1947)
-First teaching job was in Remus, Michigan
-Taught there for ten years
-Began working for Kelloggsville Public Schools in 1957
-Taught there until 1980 or 1981
-Went on the Talons Out Honor Flight to Washington D.C. in May 2015
-Non-profit organization that sends WWII and Korean War veterans to see the
memorials
(00:29:47) Reflections on Service
-Could speak with the prisoners of war and see that they were human too
-It was a worldly experience without leaving the United States
-Most them were happy the way the war ended

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(00:00:15) Early Life
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-Someone came out of a gas station and said that Pearl Harbor had been bombed
-Prior to the war he knew a little about Pearl Harbor
-Heard in the news that the Pacific Fleet had been moved there
-At the time of Pearl Harbor he was seventeen years old, going to turn eighteen in February
-When the war began he started to think about enlisting
-He knew men that were dropping out of high school to enlist
-He wanted to at least finish high school before he enlisted
(00:03:38) Enlisting in the Army Air Corps
-He graduated from high school in the summer of 1942
-His father wouldn't sign for him to enlist
-At the time you had to be twenty one to join the military
-In August 1942 a new law was passed that allowed for eighteen year olds to serve
-He started to see friends getting drafted
-He wanted to go into the Army Air Corps and become a pilot
-The admission process was changed when the war began
-No longer needed a college education, just had to pass the physical
-He went to Cleveland, Ohio in December 1942 to take the physical
-A week later he received a letter telling him that he was approved
-The next step was to wait for them to tell him to report for training
(00:05:46) Basic Training and College Training
-He went from Barberton to Columbus, Ohio by train
-In Columbus he boarded a troop train bound for Florida
-He received basic training at Miami Beach, Florida
-It lasted one month
-Largely consisted of marching and classroom training
-From Florida he went to Capital University in Columbus, Ohio

�-In Miami Beach they used hotels as their barracks
-On Sundays they were allowed to go down to the beach
-The hotel rooms were left as is, so they got to sleep in hotel beds
-In Miami Beach they had contracts with the local restaurants to make their food
-Marched on golf courses near the beach
-All in all basic training was an enjoyable experience
-At Capital University he took a speech course, mathematics courses, and flight courses
-He also received ten hours of flight training with the Piper Cub aircraft
-First time that he ever flew in a plane
-During college training spent all day in the classroom or in flight training
-Despite the busy schedule he kept up with it all fairly well
-They slept on cots in the dorms
-Stayed at Capital University for March-June 1943
(00:09:29) Pilot Classification
-After college training he was sent to the Nashville Classification Center
-In Nashville he received more physical exams, interviews, and testing
-Process to decide if you were to be a pilot, navigator, or bombardier
-He wound up being assigned to be a pilot
(00:10:02) Pre-Flight Training
-Sent to Maxwell Field outside Montgomery, Alabama for pre-flight training
-Spent two months in pre-flight training
-The first month you spent in the lower class, second month in the upper class
-Upper class would haze the lower class to reinforce discipline
-Those two months were spent on class work, exercise, and drills
-Lots of marching
-Getting accustomed to military living
(00:12:26) Primary Flight Training
-The first phase was called primary flight training and was at Bennettsville, South Carolina
-Began training with the Stearman biplane
-It was a bigger airplane and more complicated than the Piper Cub
-Had to listen attentively to the instructor
-Remembers one flight during primary training where a heavy fog rolled in
-Some men were forced to land at other air fields
-No major accidents occurred during primary training
-Some men dragged the wing as they landed
-But no one got hurt as a result; it just slightly damaged the wing
-Lots of men washed out in the first phase for a variety of reasons
-The predominant reason seemed to be airsickness
(00:14:50) Basic Flight Training
-The second phase was basic flight training at Sumter, South Carolina
-Started off flying the BT-13
-Bigger than the Stearman
-Single engine, canopy, and two seats for the instructor and trainee
-Also worked with the AT-10
-Twin engine aircraft
-Used it to get trainees used to flying aircraft that had multiple engines

�-During one flight there was a training accident with one of the AT-10s
-An engine died and the aircraft didn’t have enough power to make a stable landing
-One of the men onboard was killed in the resulting crash
-Fewer men washed out during basic flight training
-It was another two months at Sumter
-One month for each aircraft
(00:17:21) Advanced Flight Training
-Advanced flight training was at Turner Field outside of Albany, Georgia
-Trained with the AT-6 single engine aircraft
-Began to train with the B-25 Mitchell bomber
-In service aircraft
-Flew at 200mph
-Had to land the B-25 at a fast speed, or the engine would stall
-It was a heavier aircraft because of the armor
-Required more concentration to fly the B-25
-Took some adjusting learning how to land it
-It was imperative to keep the nose wheel straight
-He never heard of any accidents during advanced flight training
-During one time he had a rough landing, but it wasn’t serious and there was no damage
-At the end of advanced flight training he became a commissioned officer and received his wings
(00:21:15) Sedalia Air Force Base, Missouri
-His first station was at Sedalia Air Force Base in Missouri
-It is now called Whiteman Air Force Base
-Home of the B2 Strategic Stealth Bombers (long range nuclear bombers)
-Started there in March 1944
-Began learning how to fly the C-47 transport
-Primary use was to transport troops
-A little easier to fly than the B-25
-It wasn’t as fast, but it also wasn’t as heavy
-Overall, just a safer aircraft to fly
-He learned how to pull gliders, pick up gliders, and drop paratroopers
-Spent three months at Sedalia AFB
(00:24:34) Deployment to the European Theatre
-He left Sedalia AFB in June 1944
-His assignment was to pick up a new C-47 at Baer Army Air Field, Indiana
-He was allowed to go home briefly, then began the transportation of the aircraft
-First to Syracuse, New York then to Bangor Maine
-From Bangor to Goose Bay, Labrador, Canada
-From there they were redirected to Gander, Newfoundland, Canada
-Stayed there for a week
-From Canada they flew across the Atlantic Ocean bound for Casablanca
-They flew for eleven hours and stopped in the Azores Islands
-Chance to refuel and get something to eat
-From the Azores they flew to Marrakech Air Field near Casablanca, Morocco
-Arrived there in early July 1944
-From Casablanca they flew to Algiers, Algeria

�-From Algeria they flew to Tunis, Tunisia
-In Tunis he finally saw evidence of the war in the form of destroyed German planes
(00:28:22) Arrival in Italy
-From North Africa he flew to Capodichino Air Field near Rome, Italy
-This served as his main base of operations for the duration of the war
-He was assigned to the 35th Squadron of the 64th Troop Carrier Group of the 12th Air Force
-The runway had have been lengthened to accommodate the American aircraft
-Their living quarters there were in bombed out buildings
-The building they were in, you could only stay on the first floor
-The roof had caved into the second floor
-For a while the only shower system they had was a primitive shower system
-Eventually he just went into Rome and used the bathhouses there
-Able to get hot water and have a private stall
-When he arrived in Italy he started flying missions immediately
-Part of the missions involved preparing for Operation Dragoon, the invasion of Southern France
-This was scheduled for, and carried out on, August 15, 1944
-The initial missions he carried out was ferrying supplies, mail and personnel in the area
-Around Italy, sometimes to the island of Corsica, and eventually to Southern France
(00:32:00) Operation Dragoon and Other Missions
-On August 15, 1944 he took part in Operation Dragoon, the liberation of Vichy France
-Before dawn he dropped paratroopers into Southern France
-The next phase was to tow gliders in that were carrying supplies
-Some of the gliders were destroyed upon landing due to bad terrain
-During Operation Dragoon he didn’t encounter any antiaircraft fire
-After Operation Dragoon he went on missions airdropping supplies to partisans in north Italy
-He did receive antiaircraft fire flying those missions
-After Southern France was secured he was sent to Istres Air Field near Marseilles, France
-From there he flew supplies north to the U.S. Army
-The usual load he carried was 16 gallons of gasoline for General Patton’s tanks
-The Army was advancing so fast they relied on aircraft to resupply
-Ground resupply was just not fast enough
-During those resupply missions he had to land in farmers’ fields
-While flying into northern Italy he would sometimes pick up casualties and medical personnel
-His unit took some casualties, but far fewer than the bomber squadrons
-He knew some men in his squadron who died when they crashed into a mountain
-Another plane crashed during a formation flying accident
-He would fly missions five days a week
-If the weather was bad he wouldn’t go out
-If there weren’t many missions to fly, fewer pilots were called up to fly
-If you had a mission you were told what it was the day before you flew it
(00:38:53) Downtime and Relations with the Italians
-While he was stationed in Italy he visited Rome once and a while
-During downtime he wouldn’t travel far from base
-He was also working as in operations so he couldn’t be far from base
-He helped schedule flights for his squadron
-Got the job after helping to get his plane landed at Marseilles in bad conditions

�-The Italians would cook their meals and Italian girls would serve them their food
-For a while he was sent up to Rosignano, Italy
-Stayed in a house with an Italian family there
-At the end of each month he would pay the family rent
-The woman of the house would cook him and the other airmen dinner
-Some men had intimate relations with the Italian girls
-Remembers one soldier smuggling a girl into their quarters in Rome
-Men never got in trouble for fraternizing with the civilians though
-Towards the end of the war he landed at Milan a few times while aiding the partisans
-They took him to see the gas station where they hanged Mussolini and his mistress
(00:44:24) Mission to Cherbourg, France
-In October 1944 he flew up to Cherbourg, France
-His mission was to pick up new recruits and take them back with him
-Their final destination was fields in northern Italy
(00:46:00) End of the War and Coming Home
-On April 12, 1945 President Roosevelt died
-On April 14 he transported some Slovenian prisoners of war from Corsica
-Talking to them, they told him that FDR had died
-They had been captured by the Fascist Italian forces earlier in the war
-I.e. pro-Allies
-The war ended on May 8, 1945
-On May 24 he flew the southern route back to the Americas
-Stayed in Trinidad for about a month
-His assignment was to transport soldiers who were going back to the United States
-He would fly to Georgetown, British Guiana to pick them up
-Fly them up to Florida
-Then return to an airfield in Puerto Rico
-This assignment lasted from July-September 1945
-He was sent to an airfield in Georgia for a brief time
-After the assignment in Georgia he was allowed to go home on leave
-After the leave he reported to San Antonio, Texas and was discharged from the Army
(00:50:57) Reflections on Service
-He feels that he was extremely lucky to have never gotten hurt
-He feels extremely lucky to have gotten to see the parts of the world that he did
-Got to meet people that he formed lifelong friendships with
-At the end of his service he toyed with the idea of staying in
-Ultimately decided that he wanted to go back to college instead

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(00:00:11) Early Life
-Born on February 2, 1919 in Salamanca, New York and grew up there
-Father was the superintendent of Public Works and also worked for BRP Railway
-During the Great Depression she learned how to live with less
-After graduating from high school she wanted to attend college and become a doctor
-Her family didn’t have enough money to send her to college
-She decided to become a registered nurse and went to Bradford, Pennsylvania for nursing
-It was a two year program
-It was an integrated program (classroom work and hands on training)
-Her parents were able to pay for nursing school
-She graduated from that in 1941
-She returned to Salamanca six months after completing nursing school
(00:03:37) Start of the War &amp; Entering the Army
-While she was a student she got off work and went to listen to the radio
-She heard the news that Pearl Harbor had been bombed
-She was told that patriotic nurses joined the American Red Cross Nursing Service
-Decided to join that and she enjoyed it for a while
-She eventually received a letter that was essentially a draft notice
-She had the option to go into the Army or into the Navy
-Decided to go into the Army Nurse Corps
(00:04:53) Basic Training
-She reported to Fort Niagara, New York to be sworn in and processed
-Reported for duty on May 1, 1943
-She was sent to Pine Camp (now Fort Drum), New York for basic training
-She was subjected to the same type of training that regular enlistees and draftees faced
-Crawling under wire while a machine gun was fire over the wire
-Climbing up and down rope ladders
-Learning how to fire carbines and pistols
-Map reading
-She trained alongside other nurses
-They were all roughly in their early twenties
-There was still an emphasis on military discipline, following orders, and following regulations
-To her it felt similar to nursing school
-She also did well with the physical aspect of training
-Some nurses had problems adjusting to the training
-Especially crawling under the wire and being fired over
(00:07:50) Deployment to the European Theatre
-After completing basic training she was sent to Fort Devens, Massachusetts
-Didn’t spend a long time there

�-In March 1944 she and the other nurses were deployed
-Left out of New York City aboard the Aquitania (sister ship of the Lusitania)
-They sailed alone without a convoy
-Remembers everyone getting seasick during the voyage, including herself
-They were fed two meals a day, and most of the time she didn’t have an appetite
-Sailed over with men and women
-They were kept separate from each other though
-It took seven days to cross the Atlantic Ocean
-It was frightening to be out there on their own, defenseless against a U-Boat attack
(00:10:37) Stationed in England
-They arrived in Glasgow, Scotland
-Only stayed overnight there before moving again
-From Glasgow they travelled to Wales by train
-While in Wales they stayed in Welsh houses
-While stationed in England her unit did not have a hospital set up yet
-She was assigned to the 62nd General Hospital
-Served alongside sixty other nurses
-Same function as a general hospital in the United States
-Just dealing with different kinds of injuries
-They were taking in medically evacuated personnel at the time and treating them
-They had a ninety percent turnover rate in forty eight hours
-From Wales they moved down to a town in England
-Gathering clothing, equipment, and preparing to cross the English Channel to France
(00:14:00) Downtime in England
-While stationed in England she got a chance to visit nearby towns
-The English were happy to see Americans
-Viewed Americans as saviors of their nation
-She was invited to dinner at people’s houses while stationed in England
(00:15:04) Crossing to France
-They didn’t stay in England for too long (roughly three months) before crossing the Channel
-She remembers on D-Day seeing planes flying over to France in formation
-Most likely the pre-dawn airborne assault on Normandy
-Remembers seeing those planes come back one by one, not in formation
-Upsetting because it showed how intense and serious the invasion was
-When they finally crossed over to Normandy there was still fighting near the coast
-Particularly between Carentan and St. Lo
-She remembers landing at Utah Beach on a landing craft
-They were loaded onto trucks and travelled inland that way
-Passed through Carentan and St. Lo after the towns had been liberated
-Both places had been levelled by the intense fighting
-Roughly ninety five percent of St. Lo was destroyed during the war
-They arrived in France about one month after D-Day (placing them there sometime in July)
(00:17:50) Stationed near Paris
-They boarded a train and travelled deeper into France
-Remembers seeing craters and burned out tanks dotting the French countryside
-Whenever they stopped at a town they were greeted by civilians

�-Usually waving American flags and offering gifts to them
-Eventually stopped in a chateau that had been used by the Germans
-They had to clean out the chateau and make sure to avoid landmines in the area
-Arrived there on Labor Day, 1944 after the liberation of Paris in August 1944
-Prior to getting to that place they lived in tents in fields
-The chateau was their first established hospital in France
-It was in the country and fairly close to Paris
-They did not receive regular casualties even after getting established
-While stationed at the chateau she got the chance to visit Paris multiple times
-She would ride into Paris in a jeep to the American military sector
-Remembers that the Red Cross had an outpost set up there
-First time she got to have a donut since leaving the United States
-She never got to spend too much time in Paris whenever she visited
(00:23:14) Stationed near the Belgian Border
-After leaving the chateau they moved into a regular county hospital
-Once they moved to the new hospital they started to receive far more casualties
-There were German prisoners of war working for them as litter bearers
-They always had to be prepared in the event of an air raid
-Made sure to keep their clothes organized so they could dress quickly if necessary
-They were stationed near the Belgian border at this time
-The job there was to stabilize the wounded and treat them until they moved again
-Recalls seeing disturbing and grotesque combat injuries
-Remembers some of the men not even being old enough to be out of high school yet
(00:26:26) Battle of the Bulge
-When the Battle of the Bulge began in December 1944 she was near the fighting
-They started to receive a high number of casualties from the fighting
-During the battle they were prepared in the event that they would have to retreat
-The wounded would go first followed closely by the personnel
-In January 1945 they still received a high number of casualties
-Due to American forces pressing a counter-offensive against the Germans
-During the battle they worked in conjunction with company aid stations
-The more severely wounded were sent to their hospital for further treatment
-Once the wounded were stabilized they were sent back to the front, or further back to the rear
-Depended entirely on the severity of the wound and time it would take to heal
(00:28:47) End of the War &amp; End of Service
-She was back in the United States when Germany surrendered on May 8, 1945
-She had been sent back to the U.S. due, in part, to having pleurisy effusion
-A sickness that causes a buildup of fluid in tissues between the lungs and the chest
-She was receiving Novocain shots between her ribs to treat the illness
-The doctor managed to puncture one of her lungs in the process
-She was stabilized and sent back to the United States in early spring 1945
-She went to Walter Reed Army Medical Center, Washington DC for further treatment
-During one operation she suffered nerve damage to her right arm
-After she was mostly healed she was discharged from the Army in fall 1945
(00:31:08) Interactions with the Europeans
-She doesn’t remember anything too memorable happening in England

�-Other than the people being gracious to see Americans
-Recalls how ecstatic the French were to see the Americans advancing
-She pitied them and appreciated their gratitude
-The German prisoners of war were very young and some had been part of the infamous SS
-She learned some German from them
-Remembers that they were guarded and watched by Military Police
-Most of them were contemptuous of having been captured and put to work
-Believes it has something to do with being so indoctrinated into Nazism
(00:34:24) Life after the War
-After the war she wasn’t able to immediately go back to being a nurse
-She decided to go to Spring Arbor University in Michigan
-From Spring Arbor she went to a college in Illinois and got her bachelor’s degree
-After that she went to Michigan State University to pursue her master’s degree
-Only attended for two terms
-Her old nursing director offered her a job as an instructor in Bradford, Pennsylvania
-She accepted the offer
-Enjoyed the work until the administration changed
-She moved back to Michigan and found work at Blodgett Hospital in Grand Rapids
-She set up a course to teach aids and orderlies
-She was offered a position with the State Nursing Association in Lansing, Michigan
-She would become an assistant executive director if she took the job
-She took the job, but did not enjoy being behind a desk doing paperwork
-She missed working with students and with patients
-She returned to Blodgett Hospital and became a pediatric instructor there
-She enrolled in the University of Michigan extension program in Grand Rapids
-Got her master’s degree from there in 1963
-Became a coordinator for the nursing program at two local colleges in Grand Rapids
-Calvin College and Grand Rapids Community College
-She eventually went on to teach anatomy at Grand Rapids Community College
-Did that for thirteen years until 1980
-In 1980 she was diagnosed with spinal stenosis and underwent intense surgery for it
-She attempted to return to teaching, but after the operation was unable to do it
-It was difficult for her to adjust to that
-She eventually moved in to help a friend suffering from Alzheimer’s in 2007
-Stayed with her until her death in 2011
(00:43:51) Reflections on Service
-Her service taught her to appreciate life more
-It also taught her to appreciate living in the United States
-Remembers being overjoyed when she arrived in New York City from Europe
-She can now empathize with the men and women coming back from Iraq and Afghanistan
-It also showed her the real ugliness of war firsthand

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Kenneth Farris
World War II
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(00:00:03) Early Life
-Born in Pernell, Oklahoma in 1923
-Walked a mile and a half to school
-Father worked in the oil fields
-Went through high school
-Started school in a little country school
-Went to high school in Pernell
(00:01:01) Pearl Harbor
-He was eighteen years old when Pearl Harbor was bombed
-Remembers hearing President Roosevelt's "Day of Infamy" speech on the radio
-Read in the paper about the Japanese "peace" ambassadors in Washington D.C.
-Disappointed and upset that the United States had been pulled into the war
(00:02:17) Civilian Service &amp; Getting Drafted
-Graduated from high school in June 1942
-History teacher was also a government inspector
-He was able to get some of the boys jobs at a Texas air base that was being built
-Drove to the air base
-200 miles away
-Helping build up the base for the war effort
-In November 1942 the draft age was dropped to eighteen years of age
-Meant that he was made eligible for the draft
-Received his draft letter in January 1943
-Didn't bother him
-Deeply upset both of his parents though
-Father took it especially hard
-Went to Pauls Valley then took a bus to Oklahoma City for his Army physical
-Passed the physical
-Given seven days of leave before reporting for basic training
-Father died in April 1943
-Believes that the stress of his youngest son getting drafted contributed to
that
(00:06:01) Basic Training
-Took a train to Miami, Florida
-Took seven, or eight, days
-Initially went to Fort Sill, Oklahoma to be processed and given clothes
-Didn't matter if the clothes fit
-Given vaccinations
-Everyone was lined up and moved through a door getting injections in
each arm

�-Greeted by a 2nd lieutenant
-Spent seven days at Fort Sill
-They were all draftees
-Mostly from Oklahoma, but they came from other parts of the country too
-Hadn't travelled much before that
-Only went to Illinois for a couple summers to work at his brother's gas
station
-Reported to Pauls Valley and took a bus to Fort Sill
-Took about one full day to get to the fort
-Fort Sill was a big base
-Started learning some basic things about Army life
-Ex. learning how to march
-From Fort Sill he took a troop train to Miami
-Basic training lasted twelve weeks
-Quartered in a hotel on the beach
-Had blackouts at night
-First day at Miami he had to march two miles with a rifle
-Got up every day before daylight and went to the drill field
-Had to make your bed and go to breakfast first
-Marched a mile and a half to two miles to the drill field
-Marched back for lunch
-Marched back out to the drill field in the afternoon
-Marched back to the hotel for dinner and then went to bed
-Initially had trouble adjusting to the Army
-Didn't enjoy the Army and was homesick
-Met men from all over the country and made a lot of good friends
(00:13:30) Salt Lake City, Utah and His Father's Death
-Boarded another troop train and was taken to Salt Lake City, Utah
-One train car was a cook car
-Brought your mess kit into the car and got some food
-Returned to your own car and ate there
-Took seven days to travel from Florida to Utah
-Received word that his father had died
-Got that information through the Red Cross
-Reported to a colonel (or a general)
-Interviewed to make sure that this was legitimate
-Granted an emergency furlough to go home
-Given $40 and a round trip train ticket from the Red Cros
-Went back to Pernell, Oklahoma
-Rode from Salt Lake City to Denver, then from Denver to Topeka
-Took three days to get back home
-Got to attend his father's funeral
-The day after the funeral he had to go back to Salt Lake City, Utah
(00:17:45) Assignment to 461st Bombardment Group
-In July 1943 he was in Scottsbluff Army Airfield, Nebraska
-The men he had been with in Utah had been sent to the Pacific Theatre

�-From Wendover Field, Utah he was sent to Scottsbluff Army Airfield, Nebraska
-Trained there with B-17s for ten months
-He was in ordnance
-Learning how to load ammunition
-Got a furlough going home and was about one week late getting back
-Punished for being AWOL and was transferred to transportation
-Meant hauling crews from their quarters to the bombers
-Sent to Hammer Field, California with the 461st Bombardment Group
-While he was at Hammer Field he remembers a bomber crashing in Huntington Lake
-He had been sent to Hammer Field in October 1943
-Hammer Field was basically made of tar paper barracks
-Allowed to go off the base but he had to return by a certain time
-Got in trouble for coming back to base late and drunk
(00:23:55) Deployment
-Shipped out in January 1944
-Placed on a troop train and taken to Virginia
-Most likely Camp Patrick Henry
-Boarded a Liberty Ship
-Carrying personnel, ordnance, and vehicles
-For three or four days they waited for the convoy to get together
-Didn't get seasick
-Saw men lose a tremendous amount of weight due to seasickness and not eating
-On the ship for forty six or forty seven days
-Convoy was strafed by an Axis plane when they entered the Mediterranean Sea
(00:26:25) Arrival in Italy
-Anchored off the coast of Sicily for about one week
-Waiting for the harbor in Naples to be clear
-Pulled into Naples and was taken to a bombed out college
-Stayed there for about one week
-Slept on a floor with a blanket
-Fed two meals a day
-Had only been fed two meals a day on the ship as well
-Boarded a troop train and went to Torretto-Cerignola Airfield
(00:29:27) Stationed at Torretto-Cerignola Airfield
-Made a camp on a farm near the airfield
-Used one barn as a mess hall
-Used another barn as an officers' club
-Six men to a tent
-Had a barrel in the tent that they could use for a fire source
-Used plane fuel
-By now it was February 1944
-Had to sleep on the ground for a week before they got their tent
-Stayed in the tent at Torretto-Cerignola for the rest of the war
-Torretto-Cerignola was the base of operations for the 461st Bombardment Group
-Got close with the bomber crews
-Painful when they got shot down

�-Had to wait for the bombers to arrive so missions could begin
-Missions began in April 1944
-His job was to pick the crews up from their quarters and transport them on the base
-First pick up the enlisted men and the officers from their quarters
-Take them to headquarters for their briefing
-After the briefing they were brought to the flight line to board their bombers
-Found out what the missions were after the crews returned
-Got to know some of the crews really well
-Knew how many bombers went out, and how many bombers came back
-Got close with the ground crews as well
-A life long friend was in the 461st Bombardment Group, just in a different squadron
-On a mission over Yugoslavia this friend lost his arm
-He was able to visit him in the hospital before he was sent back to the
U.S.
-Friend later became a lawyer and then became a judge
-Became routine picking up crews
(00:42:07) Downtime and Travel
-When he wasn't taking crews to the flight line he would just kill time on the base
-Took crews to the nearby town if he wasn't busy doing anything else
-Went to Rome for three days
-Visited Venice for three days
-Rode on a gondola
-There were a lot of American soldiers in Rome and Venice
-Got to visit the Vatican and see Pope Pius XII
(00:44:16) Progress of the War
-When they first got to Torretto-Cerignola they were close to the frontline
-Could see flashes of artillery fire at night
-As time went on though, Allied forces advanced north and the frontline moved
north
-At first he was afraid that they would be bombed by the Germans
-Some nights wondered if he wouldn't wake up the next day
(00:46:08) End of the War, End of Service, and Coming Home
-461st stayed at Torretto-Cerignola for the rest of the war
-He was at Torretto-Cerignola on May 8, 1945 when Germany surrendered
-Everyone was happy because they knew that they would be going home soon
-He returned home because he had enough "points" to go home
-Points: Awarded based on length of service, rank, combat seen, and dependents
-Taken to Naples by truck
-Boarded a troopship in Naples bound for the United States
-Some of the men on the ship were infantrymen that were being redeployed to the
Pacific
-On their way to the United States received news that Japan had surrendered
-The infantrymen were ecstatic that they could just go home
-Took eleven days to sail from Italy to the United States
-Places his departure from Italy as sometime in early August 1945
-Arrived in New York City

�-Got to see the Statue of Liberty
-Docked in the Hudson River
-Taken to shore by smaller boats
-Given a carton of milk
-Greeted by a welcome home committee
-Sent to Fort Dix, New Jersey
-Stayed there for three days
-Sent to Camp Chaffee, Arkansas
-Discharged from the Army Air Force there
-Felt good to see the Statue of Liberty and get welcomed home the way that he was
-At Fort Dix you could go into the mess hall and get anything you wanted to eat
-Called his mother when he was at Fort Dix and told her that he was back in the U.S.
-Had a sister that lived in Shawnee, Oklahoma
-Took a bus from Camp Chaffee to Shawnee
-Greeted by his sister and his first wife
-It was a happy time
-Hadn't been home since July 1943
-Mother was happy to see him
(00:53:09) Reflections on Service and Life after the War
-His service made him mature
-Went in as a boy and came out a man
-Glad to get out and get a job
-Got a job on an oil rig
-A lot of things he has forgotten and is glad that he has forgotten them
-Out of the six men that he bunked with in Italy he is the only one left alive
-Remembers there was a Catholic orphanage in Italy they could take their laundry to

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(00:00:42) Early Life
-Born in 1928 in Spring Lake, Michigan
-He stayed in high school through the tenth grade
-His father worked in a factory, owned a farm for 6 years, then started a construction business
-Hank and his brother became business partners with their father
-He had numerous cousins that served in World War Two
-One cousin was shot down over Switzerland and captured
-Managed to escape and made his way back to the United States
-He had no interest of going into the service
-In the construction business he laid brick, did carpentry work, poured cement, etc.
(00:02:36) Start of the Korean War and Getting Drafted
-Paid attention when the Korean War began
-He wasn’t surprised when he was drafted
-He was drafted in the summer of 1950
-Reported for his Army physical and was deemed fit for service
-Sent to basic training in December 1950
(00:03:19) Basic Training
-Went to Detroit for the physical
-Sent to Camp McCoy, Wisconsin for basic training
-Got there by train
-It was a four (or five) hour train ride
-Camp McCoy was cold during the winter
-Some days they would train in -56oF wind chill weather
-Basic training lasted six weeks
-The main focus was learning to be disciplined and to follow orders
-Difficult to adjust to the psychological aspect of training, but eventually adjusted
-Physical training wasn’t difficult for him
-One man was killed during a training accident
-Stood up during an infiltration course and got hit by machinegun fire
-Infiltration course: crawling under barbed wire while a machinegun fired over you
-Drill sergeants would punish trainees in various ways
-Most common punishment was to be put on “kitchen patrol”
(00:06:23) Cook Training Pt. 1
-Originally sent to radio training and took the basic courses at Camp McCoy
-Some of the tables in the mess hall were worn down
-He took it upon himself to repair the tables
-Oddly enough this led to him being placed in Cook School at Fort Sheridan, Illinois
-He had wanted to be a combat engineer, but never got accepted for that

�(00:08:00) Getting Married
-Prior to going to going to basic training he, his family, and his girlfriend had an early Christmas
-His report date for basic training was December 15, 1950
-During that Christmas gave his girlfriend a ring
-He was allowed to go home on leave for New Year’s 1951
-Decided that the next time he came up he and his girlfriend would get married
-He was supposed to get a three day leave starting on February 6, 1951
-The sergeant in charge of giving out leave wouldn’t let him leave
-He wound up talking the chaplain into letting him go home to get married
-Took a train to Milwaukee, Wisconsin then caught a plane to Muskegon, Michigan
-The flight was delayed and landed late
-He was supposed to change at his in-law’s house, but the house was locked
-Arrived to his own wedding an hour and a half late, but other than that it went well
-Their reception didn’t end until 2 AM the next morning
(00:10:46) Cook Training Pt. 2
-Discipline at Fort Sheridan was strict
-The first part of Cook School consisted of a lot of paperwork
-Learning recipes and how to keep records of supplies used
-After the paperwork training got into the kitchen and began hands on training
-The two primary foods he made a lot of was scrambled eggs and sheet cakes
-On Saturday nights they would make chipped beef
-Breakfast consisted of oatmeal and scrambled eggs
-Cook School lasted eight weeks
(00:13:00) Returning to Camp McCoy
-Returned to Camp McCoy and started working in the kitchen there
-He was assigned to Headquarters Battery of the 194th Field Artillery
-He cooked for all of the officers in his unit
-Sometimes the officers ate better if they treated the kitchen staff well
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-The 194 Field Artillery was an Iowa National Guard unit
-Worked for three days then got three days off
-Served with two men from Detroit
-One night they went drinking with a sergeant and didn’t come back in the morning
-This meant that Hank had to deal with breakfast on his own
-He recruited the men on kitchen patrol to help him cook
-During breakfast the two men from Detroit returned
-He covered for them, so that they wouldn’t get in trouble
-He stayed at Camp McCoy until July 1951
(00:15:28) Deployment to Europe
-He eventually received orders to go overseas
-Didn’t know where he was going
-Went to Camp Kilmer, New Jersey by train
-Once there he knew that he would be going to Germany
-Boarded a troop ship with 3000 other soldiers
-It was an old Liberty Ship from WWII
-The weather going over wasn’t bad
-Spent most of the voyage just looking for ways to kill time

�-It took seven days to go from the United States to Germany
-Lots of men got sick during the voyage, but he didn’t
(00:17:03) Wurzburg, Germany
-Arrived in Bremerhaven, Germany
-From Bremerhaven took a train to Wurzburg
-His first impression of Wurzburg was that their barracks were beautiful and modern
-The kitchens were also modern
-German civilians worked with them in the kitchen
-Did a lot of shopping and sightseeing on his downtime
-Days started at 2:30 AM and lasted until 6 PM (sometimes even later)
-Same pattern of three days of working, then three days off
(00:19:30) Reassignment to the 272nd Field Artillery Battalion
-One night there was an alert and he was transferred to Nauheim, Germany
-There was already a military facility existing there
-From there he was sent to the East/West German border with the unit on patrol there
-Had to live out of tents
-Relied on portable kitchen equipment
-He was attached to the 272nd Field Artillery Battalion when he went to the border
-At the time it was still a predominantly black unit
-The new battalion commander was strict, but fair and competent
-He got along well with the men in the 272nd
-The Detroit men from the 194th came with him
-Remembers that one of them was a violent drunk
-Efficiency in the 272nd was terrible until they got the new battalion commander
-He was on border patrol when his wife told him that she wanted to come to Germany
-He wasn’t an officer, so he couldn’t move her over through the Army
-She made the preparations to come over on her own
-She would have had to live on her own, and wasn’t allowed to work
-He eventually talked her out of moving over
(00:25:45) Downtime and Contact with Home
-He wrote home every day and received mail from home every day
-He was the envy of his unit because of that
-To cheer up the other soldiers his wife would write to the other men too
-Most of the men in his unit were single so they would go on dates with the German girls
-During his downtime he took design courses and bought a drafting board
-Designed a house for one of the men in his unit
-He would spend his downtime reading religious magazines and going to chapel on Sundays
(00:27:10) Awareness of the Cold War and the Korean War
-Always worried that the Soviet Union would eventually attack Western Europe
-Paid attention to the progression of the war in Korea
-If you were in Germany there was little chance that you would get sent to Korea
(00:27:59) Contact with German Civilians
-The German women were hard workers
-The German men spent most of their times in bars
-The Germans were, all in all, good people
-Even seven years after the end of WWII there were still a lot of orphans

�-There was still a lot of poverty in Germany
-On Thanksgiving and Christmas the orphans would be brought to the base for dinner
-The orphans didn’t speak much English, but they still found ways to communicate
-He didn’t learn much German while he was in Germany
-There were still a lot of bombed out buildings in Germany
-Amazed by how much the Germans had been able to rebuild in a few years
(00:30:30) Visiting Amsterdam
-He was given a ten day leave and decided to visit Amsterdam in the Netherlands
-It was different than Germany
-Heard stories about how the Dutch had violently opposed the German occupation
-For example: shoved German soldiers into canals to kill them
-More of the Dutch people spoke English than the Germans did
(00:31:15) Temporary Promotion
-Went over to Europe as a private first class
-When he was in Germany he was temporarily promoted to the rank of sergeant
-It was not an official promotion, but he still had the leadership responsibility
(00:32:18) End of Service and Coming Home
-Towards the end of his service he just had to maintain the food truck, but not cook
-When his time was up the Army urged him to reenlist, but he declined
-Offered him a bonus
-He wanted to go home and be with his wife
-There was the chance that he could have gone to Korea if he had reenlisted
-He returned home in November 1952
-When he returned home he had to wait in Bremerhaven for three days for a ship
-On the way home the troop ship ran into a hurricane
-He got seasick then
-Never thought that the ship would sink
-The crew didn’t seem too bothered by the storm either
-Arrived in the United States at Camp Kilmer, New Jersey
-He was discharged from Camp Custer, Michigan
(00:35:03) Life after the War and Reflections on Service
-After his service he went back to work with his father
-When he and his wife were in their early seventies they backpacked through Germany
-She had always wanted to visit Germany
-Visited his old barracks
-Amazed by how modernized and different Germany was
-All traces of the war were gone
-He worked in construction for the rest of his life
-His service taught him to appreciate travelling
-After his wife died he found a box of his old letters and memorabilia that he had sent her
-His service had taught him not to be too attached to his hometown
-Later in life he and his wife would take an annual road trip to Texas
-His service taught him to be more independent
-If he had stayed in the Army he could have retired early
-Staying in the Army also could have led to him fighting in Korea or in Vietnam though

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(00:00:12) Early Life
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-His father worked in one of the factories there
-Grew up in a good neighborhood
-There wasn’t much money growing up
-He had a job delivering newspapers
-Spent his downtime playing baseball and marbles with friends
-Attended Southwest Christian School through the seventh grade
(00:05:06) Growing up during the Great Depression
-After the seventh grade he left school to work in a furniture factory
-He had had a hard time in school because of his speech impediment
-He worked eight hours a day and five days a week
-The extra income helped his family during the Great Depression
-It was normal for a thirteen year old to work fulltime at the time
-It was easier for him to go to work because he was teased in school about his speech
-The 1930s were a hard time to pull through, but he is thankful because his family did
-During the summers they would go up to McBain, Michigan to visit family there
-He always enjoyed those trips and misses them now
-Before the freeway system it would take eight hours to drive up there
-Now it only takes one to two hours
-He also worked on a muck farm and was paid $0.50 a day
(00:19:44) His Family
-He had three brothers and two sisters
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-His oldest brother worked for a hospital in Cutlerville
-His youngest sister eventually died due to her illness
(00:25:04) Getting Drafted &amp; Start of the War
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-It was difficult to leave his family behind
-It was made easier because many of the young men in his neighborhood were drafted too
-He remembers it being scary when Pearl Harbor was bombed
-Thinks that the U.S. pushing forward instead of retreating was a good move though
-He knew too men that were killed at the onset of the war
(00:28:25) Training
-He was placed into the Medical Corps and worked in a hospital for a while
-He was transferred to a different camp
-He was placed on KP (kitchen patrol) duty waiting for his uniforms to arrive
-It took a month for his clothing to arrive

�-He also served food at the new camp
-The mess sergeant offered him the chance to become a cook
-He decided to take the offer
-Had he stayed in the Medical Corps he would have wound up near the frontlines
-Because of his transfer he was supposed to go to Cook and Baker School
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-He started off at Camp Bradley, Texas for basic training
-From there he was sent to Camp Tyson, Tennessee to serve as a cook
-He was transferred to Fort Gordon, Georgia
-While he was there he had surgery performed on his back
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(00:35:29) Deployment to India
-While in Florida he received orders that he was to be deployed to the Pacific Theatre
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-Before being deployed the atomic bombs were dropped and the war ended
-From Florida he was assigned to another hospital elsewhere
-He flew from Florida, over Africa, to India to stay there for eighteen months
-He aided at a field hospital in India helping to evacuate the wounded back to the United States
-By the time that he got back to Michigan he had travelled completely around the world
-When they left out of Karachi, India it took one month to get back to the United States
(00:40:08) Coming Home Pt. 1
-He remembers when they got stateside men just left the ship and went AWOL
-They were just excited to be back in the United States
-He was discharged in 1946
-He had served at the same time as two of his brothers
-All of them came home safe and roughly at the same time too
-Remembers it was a “day of rejoicing” to see his family and his brothers again
(00:42:19) His Wife
-He met his wife prior to being drafted
-While he was away they communicated over letters
-It was hard to leave her behind when it came time to be drafted
(00:43:45) Coming Home Pt. 2
-When he got back to the U.S. he arrived in California
-He requested his discharge papers early so he could visit an uncle, but was denied
-He was told he would have to wait until they got back to base
-During the train ride home he cooked and served food
-The thought of his wife helped him to get back home
(00:47:18) Wanting to Enlist
-When his oldest brother enlisted in the Army he wanted to enlist at the same time
-His father forbade it and told him that he would get his chance soon enough
(00:49:28) Reflections on Service
-The experience of leaving his loved ones strengthened his trust in God
-Believed that if he trusted in God he would make it back to them
-He had felt that he had been part of a fight for good and justice in the world
-His faith grew during his time in the Army

�(00:51:35) Leaving India
-He remembers when he was first onboard the ship in India he got terribly seasick
-He could barely stand and it was caused just by the tides going in and out
-After leaving port they hit rough seas
-The deck was crowded with men vomiting over the side of the ship
-He wasn’t affected because he already had his “sea legs”
-He remembers that when they got to the open sea all he could see was nothing but water

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Richard DeVos
World War II
55 minutes 26 seconds
(00:00:02) Early Life
-Born in Grand Rapids, Michigan on March 4, 1926
-Went to Christian schools in the Grand Rapids area through high school
-Except for one year at a public school
-Graduated from Grand Rapids Christian High School
(00:00:48) Start of the War and Awareness of It
-He was at his home in Grand Rapids when Pearl Harbor was attacked
-A neighbor kid told him that Pearl Harbor had been bombed
-He, and his family, wondered what that meant for him in terms of involvement
-The closer that he got to being eighteen years old the more real the war seemed
(00:02:39) Enlisting in the Army Air Corps
-When he turned eighteen he enlisted in the Army Air Corps
-He took his Army physical in Detroit and was approved for service
-He was accepted into the Army Air Corps before graduating from high school
(00:02:47) Basic Training
-After graduating from high school he reported for basic training
-Took a train to Fort Sheridan, Illinois
-He, and one other man, was the only recruits on the train
-At Fort Sheridan he was issued a uniform and given more physical exams
-The barracks at Fort Sheridan were very stable because the fort was a permanent base
-Didn’t spend a lot of time at Fort Sheridan, just went there for processing
-From Fort Sheridan went to Sheppard Field, Texas for basic training
-It was a permanent base with wooden buildings; it was also a clean and well-kept base
-At Sheppard Field was his first introduction to being indoctrinated into military living
-Daily routine was wake up, get cleaned, get dressed, and then report for marching and training
-During basic training he also learned how to use and maintain a rifle
-A large part of basic training was learning to be disciplined and to follow orders
-He trained with men from all over the country
-All in all basic training was an enjoyable experience for him
-Got to meet interesting people
-He adjusted easily to military living
-Among all the men there was an intense feeling of patriotism
-Knew that they were fighting for democracy and for human rights
-Never felt that basic training was all that difficult
-Never felt threatened, pushed, or abused by the training or the instructors
(00:09:33) Glider Mechanic School
-He had originally wanted to be an Army Air Corps cadet to become a pilot
-Early on he was washed out because the Army said that he had tuberculosis
-In all reality he feels that the Army just didn’t need any more pilots

�-Looking for any reason, real or imaginary, to wash out cadets
-After completing basic training he was assigned to glider mechanic school
-Learned about how to maintain a glider as well as woodworking skills
-He took the glider mechanic school at Sheppard Field
(00:11:22) Glider Camp in North Carolina
-After completing the mechanic school he was assigned to a glider camp in North Carolina
-Part of his job was to aid in the training of glider pilots for the Normandy Invasion
-The majority of the glider pilots were cadets
-They had been approved to be pilots, but just not for engine powered aircraft
(00:14:27) Downtime in North Carolina
-Went to church on Sundays
-Played softball on a team
-Visited town in the evenings
-He was too young at the time to drink, so he wasn’t able to go to bars
-He forged strong bonds with the men that he served with in North Carolina
(00:15:27) Deployment to the Pacific
-From Winston-Salem, North Carolina he was sent to Salt Lake City, Utah
-From Salt Lake City he was sent to an outgoing base near Portland, Oregon
-At the time of his deployment he had no idea exactly where he was being sent
-As he prepared to ship out the war ended
-He thought that he would just be discharged
-On the contrary the Army still needed personnel for post-war duties
-He boarded a Liberty Ship and left the U.S.
-It was crowded, messy, and there was always a fight to be on the deck
-On the way to their destination there was an issue with the food
-Stopped in Hawaii for thirty days
-Stayed in Schofield Barracks
-Received more training while in Hawaii
-Remembers that the beaches were poorer than Michigan beaches
-Got a chance to explore Hawaii while he was there
(00:18:57) Assignment to the Island of Tinian
-From Hawaii they sailed to the island of Tinian
-En route crossed the International Date Line and there was a small ceremony for that
-He never really felt like he was a part of group, always felt like an individual that was in a group
-Never ran into any acquaintances from Michigan during his deployment
-Upon arriving at Tinian he didn’t know much about the island
-After they arrived they boarded trucks and were taken to their barracks on the island
-The barracks had tin roofs and were temporary, but they weren’t bad
-On the island they had access to a movie theatre and a clubhouse
-Spent a lot of time playing cards and ping pong
-Later he became a truck driver on the island delivering food to the various mess halls
-The island had an airfield that ran the length of it
-This was the airfield where the Enola Gay B-29 took off to bomb Hiroshima
-For the most part everyone was just waiting for their chance to go home
-Towards the end of his time on Tinian he was assigned to count material being sent out

�(00:23:38) Returning to Tinian
-Long after the war he revisited Tinian after a business trip to Guam
-The island still has an airport and receives commercial flights regularly
-There is a memorial for the servicemen who fought and died taking the island
-Saipan is the next island over and is thriving, along with Tinian
-There are hotels on Tinian now
-He felt a lot of nostalgia coming back to visit Tinian
(00:24:50) Downtime on Tinian
-On Tinian they had a wonderful chaplain who performed regular church services
-He played on his base’s baseball team
-They played against the other teams on the island and won the championship
-His position was first base
-He had a lot of time to read
-There were no ideal beaches for swimming
-One Sunday he and a few other men found a decent beach and had a cookout there
-Always had access to spiritual services when he was in the military
(00:27:56) Conditions on Tinian
-The weather was nice, but it rained a lot
-Remembers having to wear ponchos to be able to watch movies
-Most of the animals on the island were gone, or at least not present
-Mosquitos weren’t a problem because of the location of the island in the Pacific
(00:29:48) On the Philippines Pt. 1
-From Tinian he was sent up to the Philippines
-His job was to help get supplies loaded onto ships that were going back to the U.S.
-It was basically a place to go to wait for a transport to take him home
(00:30:13) Coming Home Pt. 1
-From the Philippines went up to Yokohama, Japan
-There was an issue with polio on the ship
-Had to stay there until they got an iron lung for the ship
(00:30:45) On the Philippines Pt. 2
-He was stationed at Clark Field on the Philippines
-The living conditions were good
-There was one instance where they were shot at by Filipino insurgents
-The engagement wasn’t too dramatic though
-Slept in tents
-They were all mostly waiting for a ship to take them home
(00:32:02) Contact with Family
-He was able to write his family consistently
-He kept in contact with his future business partner, Jay VanAndel throughout his service
-He received mail from his family and Jay regularly
-Telephones were not readily accessible
-If you wanted to call home you had to make a costly long distance call
(00:34:39) Coming Home Pt. 2
-When he got home he went into business with Jay
-Prior to him coming home Jay had already come home and gotten things started
-He had met Jay in high school and they decided to start a business after the war

�-Even throughout their service both men had been determined to get a business started
-He and Jay eventually founded the successful, international business, Amway
(00:37:13) Reflections on Service
-He feels changed by his service
-He had seen the world and felt matured because of it
-After his service he had trouble staying in college
-Feels that his service had taught him enough already
-After the Air Corps he was ready to get his life and his business started
-Didn’t want to waste time in college
-Feels that his experience in the military was a wonderful one
-Feels that he had been fighting for a worthy cause
-Fighting for the survival of democracy and the U.S.
-Feels that our enduring patriotism is due to our victory in WWII
-He believes that the men who fought on the frontline are the most valuable of our veterans
(00:43:51) Miscellaneous Details
-His fondest memories are of playing ping pong on Tinian
-He has maintained one close friendship with a man that he met who was from New Orleans
-He remembers working a temp job at a flour mill in North Carolina
-Only worked there for one night and then quit
-Affirmed that he didn’t want to do that work for a living
-Remembers one Italian man who insisted that he was a chef
-Remembers that there was a partially built hospital on Tinian
-It had been planned to be a fall back hospital for the invasion of Japan
-Shows how grim the invasion could have been had the bombs not been dropped
(00:48:14) Personal Message
-Feels that America is worth fighting for
-Feels that when we are attacked we need to take the fight to the enemy
-That there are certain times when we must take the initiative
-Believes that we need to fight to protect our rights from those who would take them away
-If we want to have freedom, then sometimes we must fight to protect it
INTERVIEW ENDS AT 00:52:50

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World War II, 1943-1946
John DeBoer
Length: 57 Minutes
Pre-War
Born in Paterson, New Jersey in 1924, and graduated from East Side High school (0:39)
His father worked on a bread truck and sometimes as an electrician, while his mother worked at a
grocery store (1:38)
They took in one of his nieces after her family was broken up (2:10)
He was working as a tool and die apprentice, working in job shop with German nationals who
could not get a job in areas related to defense (2:56)
They did not talk about Germany so he did know what they thought of the Nazis (3:10)
He paid little attention to the news before Pearl Harbor; he heard about Pearl Harbor in a friend’s
car on the radio (3:45)
He decided to join the military afterward; he picked the navy because he did not like marching
and he was interested in it (4:58)
Training
He enlisted in February, 1943 (5:15)

�He was sent to Sampson, New York for boot camp; boot camp was a breaking down process
(5:35)
When he was there they had to strip, go through a line to get a physical, then get a shot, wait in
line for a psych exam and then they were given clothes (6:01)
Boot camp ended after 6 weeks and then he was sent to radio school (6:28)
He got a second class radio license from radio school; he basically learned to copy down Morse
code (6:42)
He found that it was harder to send a message than it was to receive them, because it was easier
to write messages down (8:01)
They kept building up the speed required that he had be able to write down the messages, but he
does not remember anyone who had a hard time with that (8:30)
He finished radio school after three months, May of 1943 (9:43)
On the Edwards
He was assigned to the USS John D. Edwards, a Clemson class destroyer that was built in 1919;
it had torpedoes, depth charges, and anti-air guns as its main weapons (10:26)
He joined the ship in Charleston, South Carolina; it was in dry dock under repair (10:46)
There were 20 men and 12 officers on the ship (11:58)
Their first trip was to Trinidad ; he got sick but did not get sick again; he was given shore patrol
duty. He was given a club to keep the sailors in line (13:52)

�After they left Trinidad, they crossed the equator and did the “crossing the line ceremony” which
helped break up the monotony (15:33)
They had an ice box but not a refrigerator, so after they ran out of ice, they had to use
dehydrated food. They had a condenser that would allow them to turn salt water into drinking
water (15:49)
He slept in the after quarters by the fuel tanks ( 16:33)
This was in the summer of 1943, but they were not hit by any storms (17:06)
They crew was cycled through, but the commander of the ship, a lieutenant commander was
removed because he could not dock the ship well, and was replaced by a lieutenant who was very
good at his job 18:18
The ship, in dry dock, had been converted from a four, to a three, smokestack ship 19:34
They went to Maine after the first cruise, after that, they did convoy duty to the Mediterranean
and lone patrols of the East Coast (21:21
First convoy was to the Mediterranean; on the convoy duty they were on the outside of the
convoy using their sonar to find subs (21:48)
Convoy Duty
They used a mix of destroyers and light cruisers as part of the escort (21:51)
Later in the war they added carriers as part of ASW (Anti-Submarine Warfare) because there
were areas of the Atlantic that could not be covered by ground based aircraft (22:06)
Later in the war they could drop sonar buoys to find subs more easily (22:38)

�The convoy went to Tunisia to drop off supplies (22:58)
They were attacked by German bombers in the Mediterranean (23:40)
This was part of the German effort to try to cut off Malta (24:11)
They stopped in Gibraltar and he was able to pick up supplies and sonar (25:00)
They crew was more experienced and worked well together by this point (25:02)
He slept in the aft crew quarters which rolled with ship making it hard to sleep at times (25:25)
During bad storms they would eat sandwiches under the decks but normally they would eat on
the deck of the ship (26:03)
He was never worried the ship was going to sink, but bad storms could be very dangerous
(26:58)
It was important to have a good helmsman to help them avoid the worst of the storms
They stopped at Casablanca, Bizerte, and Azores (27:54
The Azores, which was part of Portugal, was neutral, so they were limited to how often they
could stop there (28:21)
On the way back they stopped in Bermuda (28:43)
His favorite port was either Boston or Casco Bay (28:52)
When they stopped in Casco Bay they had to ride a whale boat to land (29:13)
They had many contacts with U Boats and dropped many depth charges but they were never able
to confirm that they sunk any of them (329:41)

�His ship was involved in chasing down U-544 which was sunk by fighters (30:48)
He was part of a submarine hunting group with the USS Guadalcanal, a carrier, and three other
destroyers (31:15)
They able to find the subs because of the breaking of the Enigma code (32:13)
None of the ships he was with were sunk (33:10)
They never got off the ship in Europe; they did most of their refueling on tankers at sea (33:45)
Because they had the junior commander they always refueled last (34:22)
They refueled by throwing lines across they ships (34:32)
After they sank the U-544, one of the planes crashed on the carrier meaning the two other planes
had wait until it was dark and one of the planes missed the carrier and they had to be rescued
from the ocean (36:330
On his first trip, the carrier lost half of its planes and air crew (36:59)
Afterwards they were in the Caribbean in on submarine patrol (37:20)
The food was criticized even though they did not have refrigeration which made it hard to keep
the food good (37:48)
It was a challenge to move the food to lower decks when storms broke out because much of it
was cooked on the deck (38:28)
Flight training
He put in for flight training, which his captain okayed, even though he thought it was crazy.
(40:18)

�He left the ship in 1944 after he was accepted in flight training (40:28)
He was sent to school in Murray College and University of Georgia to study physics and
navigation and other flight related areas before he started flight training (41:19)
The survival training taught him how to build snares, hand to hand combat, and other
information needed to survive on the ground (42:23)
He took his preflight in Memphis Tennessee; he was the first in his class to fly solo (44:00)
Most of the preparation was learning navigation and flew a Stearman Biplane (44:40)
He was taught about carrier landing and during his first solo flight he almost overshot the runway
(45:50)
After that he learned aerobatics and other maneuvers (46:15)
He left the military in 1946; he finished his flight training. He was told that once the war ended
he could leave at any time even though he was signed up for five years (47:37)
When they were not flying planes they spent time in Memphis and playing cards (48:17)
Segregation was very notable because the town next to the base, Millington, Tennessee was
100% black (49:00)
They also sank a tug off the coast of Florida. They picked up a ship on the radar, they
challenged it and they got no response. They tried to light it up with comet shells but got no
response; they turned on the searchlight and found out it was an American tug (50:50)
After the war, he went back to tool design, but joined the telephone company (51:20)
He could have gone to college but did not (52:10)

�He did maintenance of switches for the telephone company; he retired from the phone company
after 35 years. (53:32)
He moved to Michigan because they had enjoyed coming to the lake (54:08)

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David Corradetti
Total Time (00:24:47)
Introduction (00:00:25)
 David Corradetti was born in Woodbury, New Jersey, on January 1st, 1950 (00:00:32)
 David had a background in hunting and fishing; he also played football and notes that he was
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◦ Basic training wasn't that difficult for him due to his background in sports (00:04:45)
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▪ David got his orders to go to Vietnam; he departed from Ft. Lewis from the airport in
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Vietnam (00:07:21)
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◦ David and his unit were operating around Ripcord in late March of 1970 (00:15:03)
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with shrapnel in his chest and legs (00:18:22)
Back Home (00:19:18)
 The injuries David sustained were bad enough to send him back home (00:19:23)
 After David had recovered he was sent to work at Ft. Lewis doing supply work (00:20:15)
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◦ He has no regrets from the Army or his time spent over in Vietnam (00:22:51)
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(00:12) Background Information
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Jack was born August 23, 1948 in Grand Rapids, MI
He went to reformed school until he was 16
Was the first of 3 brothers to go to the service; his brothers went into the Marines
He wanted to be in the Airborne like his dad but couldn’t because of his hearing, so he
went in for trucking

(4:25) Training
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Jack first went to Fort Knox, Kentucky for 8 weeks of basic in June of 1966
He then went to Fort Dix, New Jersey for 6 weeks of light vehicle drivers school
He was deployed to the VII Corps in Germany and drove officers around Europe in a car
company

(6:03) Vietnam
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Entering Dac Tho was like “running a gauntlet”
If a truck got hit they would push it off the road to keep the convoy moving out of the kill
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They also drove with gun trucks to protect the convoy

(8:25) Relationships
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Jack became desensitized to people dying around him and was not interested in making
good friends with the men he was working with
The only way to keep in touch with friends and family back home was to write
He could send photos and tapes with the letters
He felt that they “were never off duty”; they worked from 4:30 am to 8:00 pm and then
had to do maintenance on their vehicle
They did get 5 days R+R in Da Nang and then Dong Ha which was the 3rd Marine
Division base, where he was also able to visit his brother on his time off

(14:47) Gun Trucks

�• Jack was officially a driver but occasionally he had to ride on a gun truck with a M-60
machine gun or an M-79 grenade launcher, also known as a blooper
• The gun trucks had to guard the ammo dump at night
(18:15) Injured in an Ambush
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Jack hit a trip wire from a bomb in a tree while driving and was hit by shrapnel in his flak
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He was bleeding all over, but couldn’t stop the truck so he went down the road a ways
He went to a Special Forces base for first aid then to the hospital the next day to have the
shrapnel removed, then “back to work the next day”
The gun trucks improved as the war went on with .50 calibers and mini guns

(26:05) War Ends
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Jack returned to the US in November of 1968
They landed in Seattle and were told to take off their uniforms so they wouldn’t get
hassled
He had to drive a jeep for the army for 6 more months before he was discharged
With one month left to go he got in trouble for attempting to elude the police
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pull KPs for the remainder of the time
After his discharge Jack became a welder
Jack took advantage of the GI bill and retired at 55
He advises people to go into the military because the training will help to earn a higher
salary in civilian positions

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Cold War
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(00:00:39) Early Life
-Born in Oak Park, Illinois on September 7, 1939
-Grew up in Forest Park, Illinois
-His father was in sales
-His mother was a housewife and then went back to teaching when he was older
-He was an only child
-He attended and graduated from Proviso High School in 1957
(00:01:38) College &amp; Reserve Officers’ Training Corps
-He considered college while he was in high school
-He decided on Miami University in Oxford, Ohio
-He majored in secondary education with a minor in comprehensive social studies
-He volunteered for the Navy Reserve Officers’ Training Corps
-He was guaranteed a commission if he graduated from college
-Felt the Navy ROTC was better than the Air Force ROTC
-There was weekly rifle and drill
-First year was focused on naval history and orientation
-Second year was focused on weapons and gunnery
-Third year was focused on navigation and engineering
-Fourth year was focused on leadership skills
-Learned not to come off as arrogant
-Just introduce yourself and be personable
-Emphasize camaraderie and professionalism
-He was a contract student
-This meant he only had to go to one summer training session
-Did it between his junior and senior year
-Went to San Diego and did a six week training cruise on a destroyer
-He was also able to visit Pensacola, Florida
-He was never introduced to submarines during his time in the ROTC
-There were eight midshipmen in the junior officer billet during the training cruise
-He would stand watch and work alongside communication and personnel officers
-He graduated and received his commission in June 1961
(00:07:13) Reporting to the USS Purdy
-His orders were to report to the USS Purdy DD 734 at Newport, Rhode Island in July 1961
-He was redirected to the Boston Shipyard where the Purdy was in dry dock
-He stayed there for two months
-His work consisted of supervising shipyard workers
-He also started to get to know the ship
-While at the Boston Shipyard he had some downtime and was able to visit Boston
-There was a mix of new officers and career officers

�(00:09:42) Refresher Training
-In September 1961 he set sail with the Purdy
-They sailed to Newport through the Cape Cod Canal
-Stayed at Newport for a short time
-After Newport they sailed down to New Jersey to load the ship’s ammunition
-It had 5 inch/38 caliber guns
-Three twin mounts
-40mm antiaircraft guns
-Torpedoes and depth charges
-After New Jersey they sailed back to Newport
-Sailed down to Guantanamo Bay, Cuba for refresher training
-The training was difficult and fast paced
-It was hot and humid
-The purpose of the voyage was to get the ship into fighting condition
-They were at sea every day
-They were running through scenarios to test their readiness
-Tracking a submarine
-Antiaircraft target practice
-Navigation and maneuvering
-Cryptography exercises
-At general quarters for eight hours every day
-After the refresher training they sailed back to Newport for two months
(00:12:40) Mediterranean Sea
-Sailed out and joined the 6th Fleet
-Stayed in the Mediterranean from February 1962 to August 1962
-They stopped in several ports in Europe
-Cannes, France; Naples and Genoa, Italy; Crete; Istanbul, Turkey; Greece; Sardinia
-Civilian attitude of Americans varied from port to port
-Some people saw Americans as a source of money
-In Naples they had problems with American sailors and weren’t as hospitable
-In Istanbul and Greece they were hospitable
-He didn’t feel any Cold War tension or anti-American sentiments
-He doesn’t recall there being any problems in the Middle East at the time of that voyage
-He got along well with the other crewmen
-Everyone was friendly and he got to know everyone around him
-The single men fared better than the married men
-They had black, Filipino, and Hispanic sailors working alongside them without problems
-He remembers one sailor that got seasick all the time
-They didn’t sail through any storms en route to and returning from Europe
(00:19:27) Cuban Missile Crisis
-After returning from the Mediterranean they didn’t stay in Newport long
-The Cuban Missile Crisis flared up and they were sent to the Caribbean
-They sailed independently to Guantanamo Bay
-From there sailed to San Juan, Puerto Rico
-They were battle ready all the time
-News trickled in on the teletype that was on the ship

�-They didn’t have TV or radio on the ship
-They stayed in the Caribbean until December 1962
-Didn’t realize the gravity of the situation until they got to Cuba
(00:22:01) Trinidad
-In the spring of 1963 they sailed to Trinidad
-They were tracking a ship that was sailing to Cuba and was considered suspicious
-Followed it to Port Au Spain, Trinidad where it was in port for a while
-After it left they followed it all the way into the Atlantic Ocean
-He had shore patrol duty while in Trinidad
-He saw extreme wealthy and extreme poverty
-The population was diverse
-There were lots of restaurants to visit
-There were some discipline problems
-He didn’t see any confrontations first hand though
-After that they sailed back to Newport
(00:24:45) Patrolling the Dominican Republic
-During the refresher training they were given a weekend off to Jamaica
-En route they were ordered to turn back and sail towards Cuba
-There was a problem in the Dominican Republic
-There orders were to patrol the waters there and did that for days
(00:25:49) Leaving Active Duty and Joining the Reserves
-He left the USS Purdy in May 1963 because his enlistment was up
-He got a job teaching at a middle school in Oakwood, Ohio
-Did it for a year
-Returned to Miami University for graduate school
-Completed his master’s degree
-He decided to enlist in the active reserves
-Keep his skills up
-Served as a training officer, supervisor, commanding officer, and executive officer
-Only had to train for two weeks out of the year
-He worked in an administrative position
-He didn’t notice many men that were trying to get into the reserves during the Vietnam War
-He was in a reserve unit that was stationed in Bloomington, Indiana
-There was fear that protestors would attack the reserve center
-They were given guards
-Some men avoided wearing uniforms near the university
-He wound up leaving the active reserves as a captain
-There were no longer any positions open that required a captain
-He was informally retired in the 1980s
-He formally retired in 1991
(00:32:29) Getting Promoted to Captain
-He went before an officer review board
-They would see if you were volunteering for more responsibility
-Checked to see if you were staying in shape and passing your physical exams
-Checked to make sure that you were being consistently professional
-It was very competitive to get promoted

�-There were no required schools to attend or programs to complete to get promoted
-The two weeks of training each year was enough
(00:35:05) Women in the Navy
-When he first went into the Reserves there was only one woman in his unit
-As time went on more women joined
-He worked with a female officer
-He also worked with a female journalist
-The Navy began to allow women into the ROTC and into the military academies
(00:37:27) Other Details of Service
-He didn’t like to go out for drill during ROTC
-He had a lot of good times in the Navy
-Doesn’t recall there being any significant bad times in the Navy
-Most Vietnam veterans avoided joining the Reserves or having anything to do with the military
-They were better and resentful towards anything military
-He remembers one young man that joined the Reserves after going to Vietnam
-He only recalls one man being called up for service during the Vietnam War
-All of the people he served with were professional about the protests and anti-war sentiments
(00:41:25) Reflections on Service
-One of the best decisions of his life was to join the ROTC
-It was a great opportunity
-His service was a positive experience
-He recommends military service
-It taught him how to be responsible for other people
-It taught him professional and personal skills
-Especially how to work with people
-It was a great chance to see the United States and the rest of the world
-He enjoyed the discipline
(00:42:50) Life after the Navy
-He worked as an assistant dean at Miami University
-He went to school at Indiana University and got his doctorate
-He became a dean at Hanover College, Indiana
-He worked for the federal government for a total of twenty five years
-He worked as investigator for the Department of Defense
-Specifically dealing with discrimination and harassment complaints
-His Navy experience helped him with his civilian work
-Knew how the military worked by the time he worked for the Dept. of Defense

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Lan Chi Le Interview
Total Time: (31:47)
Background
 (00:11) Born in SaigonVietnam in 1970
o Mother from My Tho
 Had 4 brothers and 4 sisters
 Moved to the city for a better job
o Mother met father while working as a waitress
o Father from America, worked for GICC for Vietnam
 He was a chief management officer
o At the time, her mother knew just a bit of English
 (2:09) Ms. Le’s mother quit working after staying with her father
o Her mother became pregnant, father gave her money before leaving
o Says he knew he wouldn’t be back
o Gave her documents in case Ms. Le wanted to look for him one day
 (3:17) Says mother was depressed after father left
Communism in Vietnam
 (3:51) Was about 4-5 years old when the communists took over
o Does remember when she was upstairs in her house playing, saw many
helicopters and jets
o Engines were loud; was scared
o Found out they lived about 20 minutes away from the airport
 (5:13) Ms. Le said the cops threatened to take her mother’s house away
 (5:26) After the communists took over, her mother had a very hard time finding a job
 (5:45) Her mother did end up finding a job as a receptionist at a hospital
 (6:15) Says her father left just enough money behind to get a house and start off
 (6:25) Remembers that there wasn’t enough rice in the house as a child
 (7:05) Ms. Le said she was fortunate enough to go to school
o Said she got picked on a lot in school because of her American heritage
o Said that sometimes she would have to go along w/others in saying she hated
America
o Had to wear a red scarf to show Ho Chi Minh loyalty

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(8:54) Every family was required to have a picture of Ho Chi Minh on their walls
o Risk of going to jail if they didn’t

Opportunity to go to America
 (10:46) There was a program called ODC
o Took three years before they received a ticket to go to America
o Americans paid for them to go
 (12:07) Flew over with her mom and sister
o Had to stop by the Philippines for 6 months
o Went into a training program
o They learned English, and a bit about everyday life
 (12:51) Ms. Le was surprised by snow
 (13:19) There were many emigrants at the orientation in the Philippines
o Temporary homes were built
o 10 sections with cubicles; each family was put in one
o Food and drink was distributed
o Walked to school
o Philippine teachers
 (14:07) Many of the other emigrants didn’t talk about their past
 (14:33) Ms. Le’s sister was 100% Vietnamese
o Her mother remarried
o Her stepfather didn’t want to come to America; not sure why
 (15:15) Ms. Le knew they were to be sent to Michigan, but wasn’t sure what it would be
like
o Said they were warmly welcomed when they landed at the Grand Rapids airport
in November
 (16:11) Stayed in Hamilton for about 5 years before moving to Holland
 (16:25) She and her mother cried a lot when they first moved because of their family
members back in Vietnam
o Weren’t sure if they were able to see them again
o Sister was too young to think about this stuff
o Her mom worked hard to get a driver’s license, job, and took ESL night classes
o Became a US citizen after 5 years
o Mother worked at a factory in Zeeland for 11-12 years
o Later worked with medicines
 (18:09) Ms. Le started going to school when she arrived in Hamilton
o Graduated in 1990

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o Was in the top 10 of her class
o Went to Western Michigan University and earned a degree in accounting
 Graduated in 1994
o When she first got to high school it was hard because of her English, but the
teachers spent extra time with her
(19:53) Says that in Vietnam she was considered to be a foreigner, but when she went
to America she was considered Vietnamese
(20:22) The first couple of years were very hard for Ms. Le, especially because of the
English
(20:37) Ms. Le’s husband is Vietnamese
o She met him in Holland
o His family was very welcoming towards her
(21:40) Watches national news every day and learns a lot from it
(22:08) Says she would love to go back and visit her Vietnamese family
o Wants to help Amerasian students there
(22:55) They have regular contact with family in Vietnam
o One time she and her husband and older child went to Vietnam to visit in 1997
(24:43) Her husband’s family is from an island off the coast of Vietnam
(25:45) Mentions that she used to sing in Vietnam
o The government used her singing abilities; at the time she didn’t realize she was
singing communist songs
(28:10) Ms. Le says she really appreciates the ODC program

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(00:00:07) Enlisting in the Navy
-Enlisted in the Navy after graduating from high school
-Worked for three months after graduating from high school and before enlisting
-Worked seven days a week and made $130 a week
-Made more than his father at the time
-Tried to get as much living in as possible before he enlisted
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(00:01:21) Training
-Went to Detroit and boarded a train
-Taken to Spokane, Washington
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-Sent to Great Lakes Naval Station, Illinois for Quartermaster School
-Issued seventy two hour leave passes
-Would go up to Milwaukee, Wisconsin to a Navy club there
-Given sandwiches, beer, and tickets to movies
-Would come back to base Sunday night tired and hungover
-Sent to Little Creek, Virginia for Amphibious Training
-Remembers that it was very hot
-Most likely summer 1944 by now
-Went swimming in jellyfish infested waters
-About three quarters of the men that went swimming got stung
-Got a Navy tattoo in Milwaukee
-Didn't realize that he had gotten it until the next day
(00:05:22) Deployment
-Sent down to Houston, Texas to board a Landing Ship, Medium (LSM)
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-Worked in a shipyard for two weeks and enjoyed that
-Took the LSM down to Galveston, Texas for the shakedown cruise and gunnery training
-Making sure that it is ready for service
-Sailed through the Panama Canal and up the West Coast to San Diego, California
-Trained more in San Diego
-Sailed from California to Hawaii
-Spent about five weeks there
-Practicing invasions with Marines
(00:06:43) Invasion of Iwo Jima-February 1945
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�-Had tanks armed with flamethrowers
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-Loaded Marines, tanks, and jeeps onto landing craft and took them to the beach
-After dropping off personnel and vehicles they would go back and get more
-On one wave they forgot to pull up anchor and got stuck on the beach
-Had to get pulled off the beach while they were being shot at
-On another wave their landing craft got hit by a shell and they lost one of their
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-Managed to get off the beach, but then the second engine overheated
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-Eventually got towed to Saipan
-At Saipan they were loaded onto a Landing Ship, Dock
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-Took three (or four) days to get repaired
(00:10:53) Invasion of Okinawa-March 1945
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kamikazes
-A ship that had been heavily damaged was turned into a dummy target for the Japanese
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-Armed with remote controlled machine guns to simulate antiaircraft crews
-Looked like a real ship and drew the kamikazes away from the real ships
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-He immediately got dressed and gathered whatever he could
-The captain gave the order to abandon ship
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-Decided that it would be better to just start swimming towards shore
-Got picked up by another American ship
-Wound up being given a bed beneath where the 5in. guns
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(00:16:49) Coming Home and End of the War
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Veterans’ History Project
Don Chaffee
Cold War/Vietnam Era
INTERVIEW LENGTH: 1 hour 31 minutes 50 seconds
(00:00:15) Early Life
-Born in Detroit, Michigan in 1939
-Grew up in Birmingham, Michigan
-Attended high school in Birmingham
-Father was a roofing contractor
(00:00:54) College and Rear Officers’ Training Corps
-Attended college at Middlebury College
-At Middlebury there was a two year Reserve Officer Training Corps requirement
-Went on marches wearing old WWII uniforms
-There was some classroom work
-He stayed in the ROTC past the two year requirement so as to avoid the draft
-If he hadn’t gotten his officers’ commission he still could have been drafted
-Graduated from college in 1960
-In the summer between junior and senior year attended a six week summer camp in 1959
-Took place at Fort Devens, Massachusetts
-Trained with other ROTC cadets from all over the East Coast
-There was a separate ceremony for receiving his commission
-Granted the rank of 2nd Lieutenant in the Army
(00:05:45) Supply Officer Training
-His date to report for active duty was in January 1961
-While waiting to report he worked with his parents in Florida building pools
-In January 1961 he reported for duty at Fort Lee, Virginia
-His assignment was to go into the quartermaster corps
-He knew that with his poor eyesight he wouldn’t go into the infantry
-Being in the quartermaster corps also made sense because he was an economics major
-The quartermaster corps handled all of the supplies except for weapons and ammunition
-He trained how to be a supply officer
-How to fill out paperwork, the language of the corps, and the organization system
-Still received some rudimentary combat leadership training
-He was still a 2nd Lieutenant and eligible to lead troops into battle
-The training lasted eight weeks
(00:09:49) Deployment to South Korea
-His original permanent duty station was going to be at Fort Bragg, North Carolina
-He was appalled by the racism in the state
-Requested a transfer to a different duty station and was given South Korea
-He received no preparatory training before going to Korea
-He reported to the Oakland Army Terminal, California
-He was able to fly over to Tokyo, Japan on a Pan-Am Flight
-Flew from Tachikawa Airfield, Japan to South Korea

�-In Korea he was given a basic orientation about Korea
-It basically consisted of how not to contract a sexually transmitted disease
-Sent to the quartermaster corps headquarters in Uijeongbu, South Korea
-While there he was placed in charge of Armed Forces Day
-While he was in Korea there was a coup de tat which led to him being transferred
-Sent to the 1st Cavalry Division stationed on the demilitarized zone
-His job with them was to be a food supply officer
(00:14:53) Conditions in South Korea and on Base
-Not much had been done to help South Korea’s economy recover after the war
-Even in major cities poverty was rampant
-The Koreans were diligent and hardworking, but desperate
-Theft from U.S. supply depots was a problem at the time of his deployment
(00:16:58) Duties and Relationship with other Officers
-Oversaw organization and distribution of food and mail
-Another duty was to oversee that uniforms were washed
-Another duty of the quartermaster corps was grave registration
-Ate in a separate mess hall specifically for officers and pilots
-Most of the officers that he met were career soldiers
-He was the youngest supply officer
-Some men did want to get in and out of the Army, but they weren’t the majority
-Served with two men that had trained at West Point and Annapolis
-They requested the quartermaster corps specifically to stay out of the infantry
(00:22:29) Being Stationed on the Demilitarized Zone
-He and the rest of the 1st Cavalry Division was stationed on the western end of the DMZ
-It was the most vulnerable point of the DMZ
-Close to Seoul, South Korea
-Stationed on a path that would most likely be used by North Korean tanks in an invasion
-The objective was to keep the supply lines short in the event of an invasion
-His quartermaster company there had a fallback position in the event of an invasion
-They were within the artillery range of North Korea
(00:24:22) Duties as a Food Supply Officer
-The Army had a preplanned food schedule for the whole year
-His job was to insure that the food was distributed on the scheduled days
-He also had to insure that rations were even distributed to soldiers
-During the day he was a food supply officer and at night he was a guard
-Some days he received “officer of the day duty”
-This meant driving around base in a jeep making sure soldiers were doing their jobs
(00:27:10) Conditions of Korea and Working with Koreans
-U.S. and Korean soldiers would steal supplies
-South Korea was poorer than most African countries are today
-People had to haul materials on their backs, or with pack animals if they were available
-American soldiers were perceived as being wealthy
-They had Korean soldiers working on their bases
-Lived with the U.S. troops in the barracks
-Hated the American food
-If a Korean soldier was caught stealing a Korean officer would beat him

�-After that he’d be sent back to the Korean Army to be beaten some more
-Aside from the theft of goods keeping an accurate inventory was generally difficult
-Especially when he had to count acres of various petroleum products
-Take note of how much gas, oil, diesel, jet fuel, etc. was available for us
(00:32:23) End of Tour in South Korea
-His tour wound up being sixteen months
-Originally a thirteen month tour but there was a three month extension
-This was due to the Berlin Wall going up
-Left South Korea in August 1962
-He was not disappointed about leaving
(00:33:41) Contact with Family
-While in Korea he received a lot of letters from home
-He had a tape recorder and could send back voice messages to his family
-There was the ability to call home, but telephone use was reserved for emergency situations
(00:34:39) Traveling Around South Korea
-He would go flying with the Army pilots
-Gave him a chance to see the Korean landscape
-He drove around South Korea to other Army bases
-There was one instance where he was attached to a USO tour
-Gave him a chance to drive all around South Korea
-Got as far south as Pusan
-His job was to act as a liaison for the USO
-Basically insuring that the Army had places for the performers to sleep
-One journey was because of a Korean soldier getting run over and killed by a U.S. truck
-There was a custom where the family would be paid $200 for the death
-He drove all over South Korea and eventually found the family in Pusan
-Part of the trip involved getting to fly in a helicopter
(00:38:48) Changing Conditions of South Korea
-Everyone was poor in South Korea
-Even the capitol was impoverished
-When he visited South Korea in 1966 Seoul had improved
-When he visited again in 1982 the entire country had improved
-Small, poor towns in the 1960s have turned into thriving cities
(00:40:38) Relationship with Korean Civilians
-There were Korean civilians working in labor and administrative positions
-As an officer, he was encouraged not to go off base and fraternize with civilians
-Enlisted men were allowed to go off base though and do that, within reason
(00:41:36) Working with Veteran Soldiers
-Some of the men were so worn out they couldn’t even wear combat boots
-He served with WWII veterans that struggled with PTSD and alcoholism
-Most of the sergeants were old enough to be his father
-There was a lot of mutual respect between him and the sergeants subordinate to him
-He learned a lot from the sergeants that he served with
(00:45:03) Threat of Invasion, Cuban Missile Crisis, and Other Incidents
-No one really knew if North Korea was going to invade, or not
-The potential was always there

�-The situation was unpredictable
-The leader of North Korea, Kim Il Sung was unpredictable and aggressive
-North Korea was heavily militarized
-He would see North Korean soldiers guarding the demilitarized zone
-They were absolutely expressionless
-There was no event that scared him, but he knew the threat of invasion was always there
-During the Cuban Missile Crisis he was back in Fort Devens, Massachusetts
-That incident gave him nightmares
-There were some minor incidents on the DMZ while he was in Korea
-Knew of some infantrymen that were wounded by North Korean infiltrators
-He remembers the coup that happened in South Korea
-For him it was largely uneventful besides being transferred to the 1st Cavalry Division
(00:51:22) Assignment to Fort Devens
-He came back to the United States in late summer 1962
-He requested his stateside assignment to be at Fort Devens
-Served there from late summer 1962-January 1963
-He worked for the post quartermaster primarily in the commissary
-His job was to help reorganize Fort Devens after a catastrophic fire
-He lived at Fort Devens
-Took college courses in Boston
(00:53:23) End of Army Service
-He wasn’t pressured to reenlist when the time came for him to get out of the Army
-He was interested in the military advisory group
-Fascinated by foreign cultures and wanted the chance to work with them
-Told that if he went into that area he would be in the Army indefinitely
-Decided not to go into it
-He moved to San Francisco and went to active reserve status and worked at a bank
-He reported for his active reserve duty at Fort Scott, California
-Went to Camp Roberts for exercises
-Also went to Fort Ord for two weeks
-In 1965 his status changed to inactive reserve
-In 1967 he was notified that he was honorably discharged from the Army
(00:56:52) Awareness of and Volunteerism in Vietnam
-While he was in the reserves he knew there was a chance he could be sent to Vietnam
-He did not want to go to Vietnam
-He went to Vietnam as a civilian and became cynical about the war
-He was attending graduate school at UC Davis in the mid-1960s
-There was a State Department project offered to graduate students in the social sciences
-Began in summer 1965 by sending volunteers to Vietnam
-The idea was that these students would be able to bolster public support
-In the summer of 1966 he volunteered and was approved to be sent to Vietnam
-Knew there was a chance that he could have gotten killed
-Before leaving there was a preparatory process
-Interviews with officials at UC Davis and in Washington D.C.
-Attending a week of lectures on Vietnam in Washington D.C.
(01:02:14) Volunteer Work in Vietnam

�-He was sent over to Vietnam and landed in Saigon, South Vietnam
-Received some training in Saigon
-Sent to the provincial capital of Song Be Province to work with a representative of the project
-One of the major projects was working with Catholic refugees from North Vietnam
-Helping them build up a small community in the area
-On his first in the province flew up to the northern part of the province in a transport plane
-On the way back got to ride in a Huey helicopter with high ranking American officers
-During the ride flew over an area where a firefight was taking place
-He worked with two other Americans
-A former Catholic school teacher and an ex-Green Beret
-Got along with both, but felt the Green Beret was a little too gung ho
-Learned that there were CIA agents operating within their ranks
-Learned later on that the ex-Green Beret was a CIA operative
-He was later killed in action
(01:08:28) Opinion of the Vietnam War
-After his volunteer work he came back more cynical about the war
-He actively protested the war back in the U.S.
-He had talked to high ranking American officials in Vietnam about the war
-Heard what they had to say about the conflict
-Saw firsthand the discrepancies between what was said and what the reality was
-Saw in Vietnam that there was widespread corruption and cronyism
-After talking to U.S. soldiers learned that the majority of what Americans had been told was lies
-Found that it was impossible to know who the enemy really was
-There was no great love for Americans, and even aid workers were targets
-Saw that even the U.S. soldiers were disillusioned and frustrated
-Realized that high ranking officials were spreading lies
-There lies were resulting in people getting killed
-Remembers sitting on a porch on the Saigon River listening to American artillery being fired
-The volleys would be fired at random coordinates to disrupt the Vietnamese
-It epitomized the randomness, chaos, and lack of direction of the Vietnam War
(01:14:11) Relationship with the Vietnamese and Aid Work in Vietnam
-He would go swimming with the ex-Green Beret in the Saigon River
-Told that there was a chance that the Viet Cong would shoot at him
-Went into villages with the military to round up villagers
-The surface intention was peaceful (medical attention and food distribution)
-The real intent was to look for anyone sympathetic to communist forces
-He had a good relationship with the North Vietnamese Catholic priest
-Worked with him to build homes for the Catholic refugees
-Don’s job was to insure that the proper supplies got to the refugees
-He simply just felt comfortable being with them, because he knew they were friendly
-Went to visit a school for special needs children
-Had to travel through a dangerous area and was issued an M1 Carbine
-Only time he carried a weapon in Vietnam
-Drove an International Harvester Scout
-Safer because the Viet Cong would attack military vehicles, not civilian vehicles
-Also opted out of being in an Army convoy

�-Knew that those attracted far more attention and he was more likely to get killed
(01:20:18) Downtime and Conditions in Vietnam
-He visited the city of Saigon multiple times
-Gave him a chance to eat better food
-Ate authentic Chinese food in the Cholon District
-Ate at some of the remaining French restaurants in Saigon
-Allowed to eat at the American military facilities
-Chance to indulge in American food
-At the time Saigon was more sophisticated than Seoul had been in the early 1960s
-Evident that it had once been a colonial city
-Saigon was a dangerous city compared to Seoul
-Acts of terrorism were carried out fairly regularly by the Viet Cong
-There was more freedom of movement as an American, which exposed you to dangers
-Seoul was safer because the Koreans were far more welcoming of Americans
(01:24:08) Leaving Vietnam and Traveling in Asia
-He stayed in Vietnam for two and a half months
-He was able to split up his international plane ticket into multiple stops
-Stopped in Cambodia on the way home
-Prior to the rise of Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge
-Cambodia was what Vietnam could have been
-Flew into the county when Charles de Gaulle was visiting
-Saw Angkor Wat
-Deeply saddened when Cambodia fell to the Khmer Rouge
-From Cambodia flew back to South Korea
-Visited Seoul and where he had served while in the Army
(01:26:30) Volunteerism in Uganda
-Went to Uganda after graduate school for work during the Idi Amin regime
-He was told before going that Amin had made Uganda a freer and more relaxed country
-He arrived in July 1972 and in August 1972 Amin began to expel persons deemed unfit
-Specifically targeted the 80,000 Asians living in Uganda at the time
-Stayed in Uganda from 1972-1974
(01:28:40) Reflections on Service
-Early on he didn’t feel that his time in the Army had had any major effect on his life
-For a long time being a veteran was something that was best kept quiet
-Without the GI Bill he wouldn’t have been able to go through graduate school
-It is only in recent years that he has begun to think about and review his time in the Army
-He is more willing now to talk about his service
-Especially on holidays like Memorial Day or Veterans’ Day
-All in all he is glad that he served
01:31:50 INTERVIEW ENDS

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Veteran’s History Project
WWII/Post-WWII/Korean Conflict
James Carr Interview
Total Time:
Background
 (00:14) Born in ChicagoIllinois, in 1927
o Stayed here through high school then moved to Park Ridge
o Mentioned that they lived in a Norwegian ghetto
o Got Norwegian newspaper
o Went to high school in Park Ridge also
 (00:50) Father was a civil engineer
o Never lost a job through the Depression
o Family members lived with them who had suffered during this time
 (1:30) Father tried to get in the Marines during World War I as an artillery observer
because of his technical background
o They didn’t take him because his blood pressure was high from excitement
 (2:02) Had two brothers; one was killed when Mr. Carr was an infant
 (2:40) All of his male cousins served in World War II, uncles in World War I
 (3:20) Remembers during childhood when his younger brother wanted to see an army
jeep
o Drove through Ft. Sheridan
o Gates were closed when they tried to leave, they got let out
o Went to a nearby relatives house who seemed concerned about a recent event
o Found out that Pearl Harbor attack had occurred
 (4:36) Mr. Carr’s first choice was to join the Naval Academy and take flight training
o Navy wanted him to have a degree before joining
o Joined the Civil Air Patrol as a teenager
 (7:20) Mr. Carr enlisted instead of waiting to get drafted
o Took a skill test that had to do with electronics
o This made him eligible to go into the Navy as a first class seaman
o He was 17 at the time, as well as his other friends
o They had to wait until graduation
o After graduation, the war in Europe was over
 (8:30) Got to boot camp in early September of 1945

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 (9:00) Said that when they arrived to boot camp, “you were a nobody”
o Had to learn many new things
 (9:40) They had companies within the boot camp, about 100 of them in the company
 (10:16) They had weapons training, but different than the Marines
o They still used 1908 Springfield rifles
o Firefighting aboard ship
 (11:30) At the time, the Navy was still segregated
o This was strange to him, because it was very different in Chicago
 (12:35) He said the most challenging part of training was identifying aircrafts and ships
o They only flashed on the screen for barely a second
 (13:07) Boot camp was 10-11 weeks
 (13:16) The electronics program was cancelled because the war was over
 (13:16) Mr. Carr was given the opportunity to learn how to become a dispersing clerk
o To handle Navy payroll
o Once they graduated, they learned they could be discharged once everyone else
was discharged
 (13:56) There was a 3 week program to learn how to do this
Navy Career
 (14:15) Sent to Great Lakes Campus
o Then assigned a discharge unit
 (14:15) As a dispersing clerk, he looked at their payroll record
 (14:50) A case Mr. Carr will never forget
o One man was a chief petty officer; many ribbons
o All the ribbons were red; which meant that he didn’t get top conduct awards
o Address was the same as in 1908; had been serving for 40 years
 (16:33) Says that they didn’t get paid a lot, so there wasn’t really any disputes about
how much a person was paid
 (17:10) There was a guy whose payroll didn’t keep up with him; had been in different
combat situations
 (17:34) Mr. Carr did this work for 9 months
 (27:37) Afterward, he went to school at MichiganStateUniversity
 (27:53) During his time as a dispersing clerk, he stayed at Great Lakes
o Mentions that the base was more of a training center and a transition center
o Hangers were converted to barracks; 1300 guys to each room

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(19:06) They had 8 hour shifts
o They got liberty passes; got to go anytime as long as they reported when they
got back
o Talked about the nice houses near the area
(20:22) Got days off sometimes
o 8 hours on and off, and then 56 hours off
o Then they were changed back to the regular schedule
o Went downtown, got to go see movies and plays, etc.
(24:13) Enlisted in the Navy Reserves
o Inactive reserves
o Joined an organization at school, 45 hours a month, and joined another one later
(25:09) Because Mr. Carr could type, he could work any hours he wanted
o Did this in between classes
(26:10) One of his assignments was with Navy Intelligence in downtown Chicago
o Didn’t know what they were looking for, but knew that there were many people
with aliases
(28:44) Mr. Carr had graduated by the time the Korean conflict had started
o His enlistment was going to expire in August after he graduated in June
o On June 25th, North Koreans invaded South Korea
o About a month later the president extended all of their enlistments by a year
o In August, he got word to report to active duty on September 7th
o Had a wedding planned on September 9th, so they got married on August 23rd
instead
(31:35) Reported to the NavalReserveCenter and then went to Pere Marquette Railroad
Station in Lansing
o Went to Ft.Wayne, in Detroit
o Then got on a train to Great Lakes Naval Academy
o Went there for processing over a weekend
o Wives came to visit them, and they got liberty
o Took a train for 3 days to California
 Said the ride was beautiful
(35:16) Arrived at Port Hueneme in OxnardCalifornia
o Assigned to a battalion that hadn’t been formed yet
o Waiting until others arrived so they could be a 1000 man battalion
o Had to build their own housing
o Got to participate in the commissioning of the assignment of officer
o Mr. Carr was color guard

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o Didn’t ship out until the first week of January
(37:56) 60-70% of the guys in the unit were WWII vets or of that age
o The rest were those who had joined in the reserve units
(39:12) Went to a recruit training center in San Diego
o Stayed at the place the SEALs trained
o Spent an hour learning how to use each weapon
o Learned a lot about being a good soldier; more than the Navy boot camp
o Did this for two weeks before going back to Hueneme
o Got leave shortly after, explored Northwest United States with wife
(41:15) Shipped up to the Aleutian Islands
o This was a secret project; not told that they were going there
o It was a secret project for the Atomic Energy Commission
o They were to do underground nuclear testing in basalt rock
o They were in Amchitka
o This was an area that hadn’t been occupied by 1,000 people since World War II
o Two dozen of their people were flown up there, then 100 of them left on an
attack cargo ship
(44:42) Mr. Carr describes Amchitka as the “Florida” of the Aleutian chain
o It snowed, but there was no frost
o Remembers solid fog
(46:55) Says the island as pretty much abandoned
(47:13) Their first job when they arrived was to convert warehouses to barracks
(48:25) The coldest it got there at night was 28 degrees
o Snow never lasted more than a couple of hours
(49:17) Eventually, the whole battalion joined them
o They brought over the flu
(50:44) Mr. Carr said they had a regular galley
o Big meal was at noon, but they were working at that time
(52:13) Decided to keep a diary because he could not write home about their work,
since it was a secret project
(53:37) Had 3 survey crews working, they laid out the ground zero line
o Out from about 3 miles
o Had to be witnessed, etc.
o Whatever they put down was going to be destroyed, but they had to put it back
(55:14) The biggest challenge of his job was the weather
o Wind never stopped; caused equipment to vibrate
o The Aleutian islands were all tundra – made a “mattress”

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(56:40) His team consisted of about 5-6 guys
o He really liked these people
o They came from all over the US
(58:00) Also had to report tide gages
(58:28) When they were off duty, they hiked and explored the island
o Describes various moments in nature and wildlife that he experienced
o They got to watch movies often
(1:00:00) Stayed on Amchitka from January until June
o Many decisions and work was based on the weather
(1:04:42) Mr. Carr’s wife was in Lansing while he was in Amchitka
(1:08:37) He said on the island, the morale would go up and down; depended on the
weather a lot of the time.
(1:10:40) His enlistment was extended by a year; different than World War II
o Discharged in August
(1:12:00) They came home in a victory ship
o 6-7 days crossing the Pacific
(1:15:00) Says his time in the military helped him have a great respect for those that do
it now

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Veterans’ History Project
Dr. Edward Byrd
Vietnam War
1 hour 24 minutes 28 seconds
(00:00:12) Early Life
-Born on January 26, 1940 in Birmingham, Alabama
-Moved to Washington D.C. and grew up there
-His father started several businesses
-Most successful one was an air conditioning repair school for WWII veterans
-His mother worked for the Federal government
-She worked in the Commerce Department and then in General Accounting
-Attended Calvin Coolidge High School
-Graduated from there in 1958
(00:01:27) George Washington University
-He was able to secure a scholarship to George Washington University in Washington D.C.
-He majored in zoology which led to him going on to medical school
-He was able to get into medical school after only three years and passing the MCAT
-He was able to complete medical school
-He was able to avoid the draft because he was in college
-Graduated from college in 1965
-During medical school a high ranking Army officer came in and addressed the students
-Told them that they would all spend two years doing some sort of military service
(00:03:37) Awareness of the War
-When he was young he saw a gory WWII propaganda picture in a magazine
-It made him never want to go to war, or be involved with anything like that
-When the Korean War occurred he was still too young to pay any attention to it
-When the officer addressed his class he knew that there was no escaping the Vietnam War
-Remembers seeing a picture of Hanoi post-bombing in 1964 in the Washington Post
-Drove home the severity of the situation in Vietnam
(00:05:47) Beginning of Navy Service
-He was given three options:
-Graduate from medical school, do a one year internship, then enter as a lieutenant
-This is the option that he chose
-Graduate from medical school, do an internship, then begin specialty training
-Graduate from medical school, complete specialty, and then go in with a higher rank
-At the time he wasn’t ready to decide on what his medical specialization would be
-Eight days after completing his internship he was called to report for duty
-Completed his internship at George Washington University
-He was sent to Annapolis Naval Academy, Maryland
-He was given a uniform, a brief lesson on the history of the Navy, and protocol
-Training lasted only two weeks
-There was no physical training, or discipline conditioning

�(00:08:28) First Assignment to a Ship
-The first ship that he was assigned to was the USS Truckee (a fast fleet oiler)
-The commander of the fast fleet was aboard the Truckee
-Navy wanted a doctor close to the commander
-Reported to the Truckee in Baltimore, Maryland
-At the time the ship was being repaired and wasn’t ready for him
-He was sent to a ship in Norfolk, Virginia called the USS Chikaskia
-It was going to be part of a group of ships to pick up astronauts in the ocean
-They were getting ready to sail when there was a technical problem
-Forced them to return to Norfolk
-Stayed with the Chikaskia for about two or three months
-Eventually rejoined the USS Truckee
-During the time of those two assignments there were no medical duties for him
-If there was an emergency there was a Naval hospital nearby
-Mostly played golf during downtime
(00:12:08) Mediterranean Cruise
-He was assigned to a ship called the USS Altair
-Sailed to the Mediterranean Sea on her
-NOTE: What follows may have been on the USS Altair, or the USS Truckee
-During the 1967 Arab-Israeli War (“Six Day War”) he was in the Mediterranean Sea
-Part of evacuating American citizens from Alexandria, Egypt
-His ship was sent to aid the USS Liberty after Israel attacked it
-Gave the ship medical supplies
-During the time of the Six Day War his ship was never fired upon
-Went to Naples, Italy to refuel and resupply
-While docked in Naples he got a chance to visit Italy
-Didn’t really have any encounters with any Italians
-Attributes that to the language barrier
-All toll spent one month in the Mediterranean Sea
(00:16:49) Medical Duties and Downtime
-Prior to the Vietnam War there were really no medical duties on the ships he served on
-Crewmen were young and healthy and didn’t require medical aid
-The most “serious” injury that he experienced was a broken finger
-Bought a camera to film the ship’s basic processes
-Examples: resupplying, refueling in the ocean
-Found the processes fascinating
-Remembers watching numerous crates being accidentally dropped into the sea
-The crew didn’t seem too concerned and just ignored it
-Thought it was bizarre how tons of goods were lost and it wasn’t a problem
-Watched gunnery exercises being conducted with the ships antiaircraft guns
-The gun crews would shoot at a target towed by a Cessna propeller driven aircraft
-They never hit the target
-Realized that they had no real defenses against modern, jet powered aircraft
(00:19:47) Relationship with Crewmen
-Served with a very interesting group of people
-One sailor that he served with had served with the Merchant Marines

�-Knew how to use a sextant and navigate by the stars
-Valuable because that was a skill that had been mostly lost
-He was also a good storyteller and all around a funny guy
-A number of the older officers were career soldiers
-He found the officers to be interesting
-They were always up to date on world events
-Knew that a crisis in the world may directly impact them
-They tended to be politically conservative
-Hardworking men
-He worked with three enlisted men who were his subordinates
-One of those enlisted men was a corpsman that had served in the Korean War
-They took their job seriously and he respected that
-They helped him to mature and be a more responsible person
(00:23:23) Volunteering for Vietnam
-He left the USS Truckee in July 1967
-He returned to his parents’ home for a month of leave
-He was originally told that he would serve a year abroad, then a year stateside
-Another doctor told him that he should consider becoming a neurosurgeon
-At the time becoming a neurosurgeon really didn’t appeal to him
-Part of the deal was going to a hospital ship off the coast off of Vietnam
-It would ultimately become a five year commitment to become a neurosurgeon
-He had to convince his parents that he would be safe and that it was a great opportunity for him
-They weren’t happy about his decision, but didn’t forbid him from doing it either
-There were not a lot of doctors volunteering to go to Vietnam to become a medical officer
-Before being deployed to Vietnam he was not given any orientation
(00:26:55) Arrival in Vietnam
-Flew out of the United States in August 1967 on a commercial airplane
-Landed at Tan Son Nhut Air Base in Saigon, South Vietnam
-Recalls that the first thing he noticed was how hot and humid the weather was
-Remembers seeing palm trees everywhere
-He was taken to a place called Hotel Annapolis
-Drove through Saigon and saw the old French buildings
-Recalls that Saigon was crowded and full of people on mopeds or in small cars
-Hotel Annapolis was a three story, cinderblock building
-Guarded by an armed soldier
-Stayed there overnight
-Shortly after arriving at Hotel Annapolis there were multiple attempted attacks on the guard
-A Vietnamese couple pulled up and attempted to shoot the guard
-Their pistol misfired and they drove off
-The guard wasn’t able to retaliate because there were too many people around
-Introduced him to the idea that you couldn’t tell who was friendly and who wasn’t
(00:30:57) Assignment to the USS Repose
-After staying a night in Saigon he took a helicopter up to Da Nang
-From Da Nang he was driven to the docks
-Remembers on the way seeing crates stacked along the road that were 10-15 feet high
-The stacked crates extended for at least a few miles

�-Material for the war effort
-He boarded the USS Repose and was assigned to a ward that dealt with tropical diseases
-He treated both soldiers and civilians
-Primarily treated malaria and parasites
-He was able to assist the neurosurgeons onboard occasionally
-It was always satisfying for him to treat malaria because usually the treatments were effective
-There was a large hospital in Da Nang as well which aided in the treatment of soldiers
-Treated the civilians that worked on the U.S. base at Da Nang
-They were aided by translators aboard the ship
-Always seemed grateful for the aid that they were receiving
-The parasites that he treated were roundworm, tapeworm, and amoebas found in the water
-Soldiers were supposed to treat the water with a chemical
-They chose not to because it made the water taste bad
-As a result they would ingest parasites
-Remembers one soldier with a case of cerebral malaria
-His brain was inflamed and swollen
-Ultimately died because of the malaria
(00:36:53) Assisting Neurosurgeons
-Assisted the neurosurgeons occasionally by using an electrified tool to control bleeding
-Slowed the bleeding in the brain during surgery
-Over time other neurosurgeons began to ask for his help
-After a while his primary job was no longer the ward, but to assist neurosurgeons aboard ship
-Ultimately learned faster on the ship than he would have in the civilian world
-He helped in treating head trauma and spinal trauma
-Different than the average civilian head wound
-Learned that artillery fragments tended to cause the most damage
(00:40:15) Relationship with Doctors and Crewmen
-Some of the doctors were career soldiers while others were just civilian doctors
-Some of the doctors he served with had a family, a mortgage, and a private practice
-Being drafted made it increasingly hard to support their family, or pay their mortgage
-Most of the civilian doctors did not want to be in Vietnam
-They were skeptical that it was going to be an ultimately good policy for the U.S.
-Feeling increased after the Tet Offensive
-Despite those feelings they still did their duty
-He had a close relationship with his corpsman and the head nurse
-Got along well with them
(00:42:54) Tet Offensive
-During January 1968 he remembers the Repose getting a high number of paralyzed soldiers
-His job was to escort the soldiers to Bethesda Hospital in Maryland
-During the mission got to spend a night with his parents
-Took a flight from D.C. to California
-Got stuck in California for five days due to the USS Pueblo Incident
-Large amount of forces being diverted to South Korea
-Got a flight out of California to Elmendorf, Alaska then from there to Saigon
-Arrived in Saigon at 1 AM
-When he arrived in Saigon he could see tracer rounds being fired

�-Landed in Saigon and was told he could be taken to Hotel Annapolis
-Decided to just stay in the terminal until morning
-All through the night he could hear American artillery fire
-Every thirty seconds a round was being fired on the Vietnamese
-At 4 AM the action intensified
-Automatic weapons fire, artillery fire, and flares being deployed
-Learned that the Viet Cong had broken through the perimeter
-He was placed on a bus and evacuated to a safer position at Tan Son Nhut
-There he learned that all of South Vietnam was under attack
-The next day he was placed on a Huey helicopter bound for Da Nang
-Remembers that the pilot had to stop in the jungle to refuel
-There was an absurdly placed self-serve pump in the middle of a clearing
-Landed at Da Nang and returned to the USS Repose
-Immediately had to get to work due to the high number of casualties
-The Tet Offensive was his only exposure to combat while in Vietnam
-The Tet Offensive happened halfway through his tour of duty
-He and the rest of the Repose was busy during and immediately after the Tet Offensive
-Surgeons would go two to three days without sleep
-Surgeons would try desperately to save even the mortally wounded soldiers
-Received everything from minor wound to fatal wounds
-The majority of soldiers they received survived their wounds
-Believes that it was due to advanced medical care and the helicopters
(00:54:04) Downtime in Vietnam Deployment
-Every five-six weeks the USS Repose would go to Subic Bay, Philippines
-He was able to take a few R&amp;R trips
-Remembers one trip to Hong Kong
-They were supposed to go to Sasebo, Japan
-Cancelled due to the Tet Offensive
-He enjoyed playing golf during his downtime
-During his visit to Hong Kong he was able to visit a local golf course
-During the visit an officer was taking pictures of Chinese farmers
-They became visibly upset about this
(00:56:32) Dennis Lobbezoo Sculpture
-During the Tet Offensive a wounded Marine infantryman was evacuated to the Repose
-His name was Dennis Lobbezoo and he was from Grand Rapids, Michigan
-He had been hit by mortar shrapnel in Khe Sanh
-Lobbezoo was then treated by Dr. Byrd
-Byrd was able to dig out the shrapnel and help heal Lobbezoo
-During the course of treating Lobbezoo he got to know him
-Byrd always hoped that Lobbezoo would make it back to the U.S.
-On Byrd’s last day in country he was reading the military newspaper Stars &amp; Stripes
-Learned that Dennis had been killed in action
-The loss hit him hard
-He came back to the U.S. and saw how Vietnam veterans were being mistreated
-He received some harassment, but was more concerned about the injustice for the vets
-Always wanted to do something to counteract that mistreatment and to honor them

�-He retired from medicine when he was 58 and went to college to study art
-The end goal was to learn how to make a sculpture for Dennis
-He wound up making a bronze sculpture of a wounded soldier, dedicated to Dennis
-He got into contact with Dennis’s ex-fiancé, Joyce Washburn
-Together they looked for a place for Dennis’s statue in Grand Rapids
-Able to get in contact with Henry Matthews at Grand Valley State University
-The statue was put up at the Richard M. DeVos Center at GVSU
(01:02:42) Drug Use, Racism, and Sexism on the USS Repose
-He was never aware of drug use on the ship
-He learned about drug use in the field later
-He didn’t see any racial tensions on the ship
-His observation was that everyone was so stressed and focused no one cared for race or drugs
-In Vietnam it was the first time that there were female nurses on the ship
-Caused morale and discipline issues
-There were 29 females and 600 males
-Most of the men were scared, lonely, and single
-Relationships did develop over the course of his tour
-When they ended either the male or female was hurt which was demoralizing
-If a male pursued a female and was decline then there were morale issues
-The nurses were great workers
-All in all there were some gender problems caused due to the stress and proximity
(01:08:28) Various Memories of Vietnam
-He remembers that there was a rash of terribly burned soldiers evacuated to the Repose
-Armored personnel carriers would carry a gasoline tank beneath the crew compartment
-If it was hit and exploded then the soldiers were cooked alive
-The only way to remotely save them was to skin them
-Most of the fatally wounded soldiers were calm and accepted that they would die
-He remembers treating one captain who had received 100% burns
-Said that he would survive because he had a wife and baby to live for
-Asked for a drink of water and then laid back down and died
-Everyone relied on psychological defense mechanisms to stop from going insane
-If they got to close to a patient it could psychologically cripple them
-He remembers a doctor weeping openly only once during his time on the Repose
(01:14:07) Coming Home
-He knew, to the day, when he would be going home
-He was given a little plaque saying that he had served on the USS Repose
-There was a small farewell party for him
-He got off the ship in Da Nang and stayed in the officers’ quarters in Da Nang
-Arrived in the U.S. at Edwards Air Force Base in Washington D.C.
-He had flown from Da Nang to Tokyo, Japan
-Stayed in an empty ward at an American hospital
-Ward was preempting casualties from Vietnam or a 2nd Korean War
-To him the logistics seemed unreal
(01:17:22) Life after the War
-He was discharged and went back to George Washington University for neurosurgery
-He was sent to the Washington D.C. veterans’ hospital for his general surgery internship

�-After that began his neurosurgery internship at George Washington and affiliated hospitals
-He completed his neurosurgery training and moved to Hagerstown, Maryland
-Seventy miles from D.C. and he started a private practice there
-Worked in Hagerstown until he retired
-Moved to South Carolina with his wife and took art classes in Charleston
-Got a degree in art history and in studio acting
(01:19:01) Reflections on Service
-He had never had any intention of going into a surgical specialty
-The Navy played a large part in changing that direction of his life
-His experience aboard the USS Repose led him to become a neurosurgeon
-He respected and appreciated the organization and hierarchy of the Navy
-Noticed that civilian doctors without military experience lacked some of that respect
-His Naval service taught him to be more selfless and more concerned about the “unit”
-He thinks that the Navy helped him to grow up and be more selfless and independent
-Learned that it is a tough, impersonal, and unfair world and that you need to survive in it

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Veterans' History Project
David Burkholder
World War II
38 minutes 37 seconds
(00:00:21) Early Life
-Born in a house on Union Avenue in Grand Rapids, Michigan on September 21, 1926
-Had two older brothers and an older sister
-Catherine (oldest), Clayton, and Johnny
-Grew up in the house on Union Avenue until he was ten years old
-Moved to a house on Greenfield Avenue when he was ten years old
-First house that he lived in that had indoor plumbing
-Father was a postal clerk for the United States Postal Service for thirty years
-Helped him carry mail in the summers
-Went to Wyoming High School
-Quit school in the tenth grade to join the Navy
-Wanted to join because his older brothers were in the Navy
-Mother forbade it until he was eighteen
-Worked until he was old enough to enlist in the Navy
(00:03:09) Enlisting in the Navy
-When he was eighteen he joined the Hospital Corps of the Navy
-Enlisted in Detroit and took his physical there
-From there he was sent to Great Lakes Naval Station, Illinois for basic training
-Primary motivation for enlisting was that his two older brothers were in the Navy
-Didn't want to wait to get drafted
-Hospital Corps seemed appealing
-After being in the Navy for six months he was given the chance to reenlist
-Added two years to his service and he could choose his specialization
-Decided to be an X-ray technician
(00:04:49) Basic Training
-It was fall 1944 when he got to Great Lakes Naval Station
-Had six weeks of basic training
-Normal course was six months, but it had to be condensed into six weeks
-Difficult as a result
-Discipline wasn't difficult for him to adjust to
-Parents had emphasized discipline growing up
-Had to keep uniforms neat and clean
-He taught another sailor how to properly wash his uniform
-Everyone made it through basic training
-Company commander was tough, but respected and a good man
-His training company was selected to be the flag company
-Meant that they were physically and mentally the best
-Life in the barracks was a different experience
-Had to scrub the floorboards with steel wool

�-Known as the "Great Lakes Shuffle"
(00:08:34) Hospital Corps Training Pt. 1
-Sent to Sampson, New York which is where he added two years to his enlistment
-From New York he was sent to San Diego, California for Hospital Corps training
-In Sampson, New York there was a hospital and he served as a corpsman
-Placed on watch in a ward
-A lot of wounded men were there and needed care
-Received his X-ray training in Bethesda Naval Hospital, Maryland
-There were 120 men in his graduating class
-He was the tenth in his class and was able to stay in Bethesda as a
technician
(00:10:52) Stationed in Bethesda Pt. 1
-Took care of admirals and other high ranking officers at Bethesda Naval Hospital
-Since he was a technician he was able to treat high ranking officers like any other
patient
-Remembers being able to order an admiral to receive X-rays
(00:11:38) Enlistment and Discharge Dates
-Enlisted on August 24, 1944
-Discharged on November 18, 1947
(00:11:54) Stationed in Bethesda Pt. 2
-Worked on men that had been wounded in the European Theatre
-A lot of the men from Europe were the worst cases that he experienced
-His job was to take X-rays so that radiologists could analyze the results
-Some men were sent back to fight after they recovered from their wounds
-Stationed at Bethesda Naval Hospital for a while
(00:13:03) Stationed aboard the USS Cadmus Pt. 1
-He volunteered for ship duty and was assigned to the USS Cadmus
-Docked one mile out from Norfolk, Virginia
-Far enough out that he could get sea pay
-Hurricane came in and they had to stay docked because a damaged ship was moored to
them
-It was rough
-Worst of it lasted between a half hour and an hour
-At one point the ship was listing forty five degrees
-Had an X-ray machine on the ship
-Administering to crewmen during routine checkups
-Dealing with sailors that had been wounded in accidents
-Remembers one sailor that was mortally wounded during a ship-ship resupply
-His head got caught between the two ships and he died shortly thereafter
-Had ship duties like cleaning if he wasn't doing medical work
(00:16:50) Downtime Pt. 1
-Had liberty when he was stationed at Bethesda Naval Hospital
-Could visit Washington D.C.
-When he was on the Cadmus, if he had liberty he would take a small boat to the shore
-Norfolk, Virginia was a pretty rough town at the time
(00:17:38) Living Conditions on the USS Cadmus

�-Food on the ship wasn't bad
-Had powdered eggs almost every day
-Remembers the sailors requesting fresh eggs from the cook
-Got "fresh" eggs, but by time they arrived they had spoiled
(00:18:14) Discipline on the USS Cadmus
-Remembers one sailor was cheating on his wife
-He thought he had caught a disease and went to the lab technicians
-To teach him a lesson, the technicians said that he had caught a disease
-Encouraged him to tell his wife what had happened
-A week later they told him that he was healthy and disease free
(00:19:15) End of Service Pt. 1
-He was on the Cadmus until he was discharged in November 1947
-Pressured to reenlist, but he declined
-As punishment, he had to chip paint on the ship for a week
(00:20:17) Stationed aboard the USS Cadmus Pt. 2
-There were forty to fifty men on the ship
-It wasn't a very large ship
-Note: The Cadmus was actually a very large ship with a crew of 921 men
(00:20:42) Downtime Pt. 3
-When he was on the Cadmus he spent a lot of time playing poker with the other men
-Ship's cook would bring them snacks and desserts while they were playing cards
-Drinking on the ship wasn't allowed
-Some of the men smoked
-Morale was good
(00:21:36) News of the War
-Got reports about the war's progress when he was on the ship
-Got a lot of news about the war when he was stationed at Bethesda Naval Hospital
(00:21:53) Contact with Family
-Oldest brother (Clayton) was on a Landing Craft Structure (LCS)
-Purpose was to draw fire so that battleships could pick out targets and fire on
them
-Johnny (second oldest brother) served aboard a destroyer-escort
-Escorted destroyers and would hunt/kill submarines that posed an immediate
threat
-Saw Clayton when he was training in San Diego
-Got to go into the city with him and see the naval base
-Saw Johnny a couple times when he was stationed on the East Coast
-Kept in touch with his brothers via letters
-Kept in touch with his parents and his sister with letters as well
-Looking back, believes they were all more worried than any of them realized
(00:24:20) Downtime Pt. 4
-Went to a couple USO Shows when he was training in San Diego
-One of his classmates wanted to help him learn how to dance
-After multiple failed attempts decided that David just didn't have any
rhythm

�(00:25:21) Hospital Corps Training Pt. 2
-Received basic Hospital Corps training at Balboa Park in San Diego, California
-During the war it was renamed Camp Kidd
-Only got onto the San Diego naval base when he was with Clayton
-The training in San Diego consisted of going to classes
-It wasn't easy, but it wasn't difficult either
-Enjoyed the training
(00:26:25) Life after the Service
-First job was at St. Mary's Hospital in Grand Rapids, Michigan
-Didn't get along well with the nuns though
-Went to the veterans' hospital in Grand Rapids
-Worked there for three or four years
-Decided to get into selling insurance
-Tried it for a while and realized that he just wasn't cut out to be a salesman
-Eventually went to work at the hospital in Sheridan, Michigan
-Worked there for three years
-Decided to become a minister
-Worked as Wesleyan minister for forty two years
-Pastored at a church in Munising, Michigan for three yeras
-Pastored at a church in Lakefield Township, Michigan for twenty seven
years
-Pastored at a church in Washington Court House, Ohio for twelve years
-Retired from the ministry after that
-Returned to Grand Rapids
-Used the GI Bill to take a couple flying lessons
-Quit after his wife got sick
-Met his future wife at vacation Bible school when he was twelve years old
-Her name was Jackie
-She died on December 5, 2010
-Had lost touch with her when he was in the Navy and reconnected with her afterwards
-Got married in 1948
-Had two sons named Ron and Jim
-Jim served in the Michigan National Guard
-Ron served in the Army and was stationed in Germany
(00:32:06) Reflections on Service
-Proud to have had the chance to serve
-Navy was instrumental in teaching him about X-rays and provided him with a decade of
work
-Glad to have been able to help the men that had been wounded in combat
-Taught him that he was fortunate to not have wound up in a combat zone
-Opportunity to see parts of the country he may not have gotten to see
-Allowed him the chance to go on the Talons Out Honor Flight to Washington D.C.
-Talon's Out Honor Flight: Non-profit organization to take veterans to
Washington D.C.
-Interesting to see how the city had changed
-Navy had an overall positive effect on his life

�-Learned to appreciate the men that had sacrificed so much in the war
-Honor to work with them and help them
-Made some long lasting friendships
-One of his friends was able to get him a tour of the USS Missouri
-Got to see where the Japanese Instrument of Surrender was signed
-Naval service qualified him for free medical aid and medicine later in life

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                    <text>Grand Valley State University
Veterans' History Project
Dr. Robert Browne
World War II
57 minutes 58 seconds
(00:00:16) Early Life Pt. 1
-Born in Coldwater, Michigan on November 12, 1924
-Parents got divorced when he was two years old
-Went to live with his paternal grandparents
-Had a sister that was a year older than him
-Lived in Coldwater from the age of two to the age of six
-Moved to a farm with his grandparents
-Father remarried and moved to the farm
-Sister died at eleven years old due to a congenital kidney problem
-Continued to live on the farm until he was about twelve years old
-Moved to Lansing, Michigan to live with his mother and stepfather
-Lived with them for about three, or four years
-Went back to Coldwater for high school
-After graduating from high school he enrolled at the University of Michigan
(00:02:19) Overview of Service
-Eventually enlisted in the Army Air Force
-Became a pilot
-Flew missions over the South Pacific during the war
(00:02:30) Life after the War Pt. 1
-Returned to the University of Michigan in 1946
-Completed pre-dental school and went on to go through dental school
-Graduated in 1952
-Worked in Kalamazoo, Michigan for five years practicing general dentistry
-Returned to the University of Michigan and studied orthodontics for two years
-Moved to Grand Rapids, Michigan and practiced orthodontics for twenty years
-Got involved in business and became an investment financier
-Started out as a hobby
-Eventually grew to having a company with 7,000 employees
-Sold off that company and started a smaller investment firm
-Dealing with the New York Stock Exchange
(00:04:12) Early Life Pt. 2
-Grandfather was a farmer, but also worked at a grocery store in Coldwater
-Father and him worked on the farm
-He did everything that he could as a ten and eleven year old
-Milked cows, cleaned stables, gathered eggs, etc.
-The work never bothered him
(00:06:05) Enlisting in the Army Air Force
-The Aviation Cadet Examining Board came to the University of Michigan looking for
cadets

�-This was in November, or December, 1942
-He enlisted in the Aviation Cadet Program
-There were strict physical requirements that had to be met
-Primary focus was on eyesight and how your body adjusted to high altitudes
-Placed in a pressure chamber and exposed to pressure levels at 20,000
feet
-He had never been in a plane prior to being in the service
-Motivated to join because pilots were paid 50% more than ground troops
-Passed the physical exam and was on his way to becoming a pilot
(00:08:06) Basic Training
-Went to Detroit and boarded a train bound for Miami Beach, Florida for basic training
-Issued military clothing
-Did drills
-He got to be a drill leader which meant that he was given his own room
-All of the men in training were roughly the same age
-It was hard work
(00:10:00) Pre-Flight Training
-Sent to Xavier University in Cincinnati, Ohio for pre-flight training
-Got the basics about navigation and aircraft recognition
-Courses were taught by Jesuit priests
-It was a good experience
-Jogged through the streets of Cincinnati singing Army songs
-Civilians would come out to watch them do their jogging
-Incredibly supportive of the servicemen and servicewomen
-Lasted a couple months
-Had to be able to quickly recognize enemy aircraft and the number of aircraft present
-Had to learn Morse code
-Had to be able to send and receive a certain number of words each minute
(00:12:47) Flight Training
-Sent to San Antonio Aviation Center, Texas
-Taught about aircraft engines
-From San Antonio he was sent to Cimarron Field, Oklahoma for basic flight training
-Note: In the interview he says "Kansas" but the actual location is Oklahoma
-Training with PT-17s
-Open cockpit and you had to wear a parachute in case you fell out
-First time that he had ever been in an airplane
-Trained by civilian flight instructors
-There was one instructor to every five cadets
-Learning how to fly
-As he went into advanced flight training he was given the choice of single engine, or
multi-engine
-Felt that knowing how to fly multi-engine aircraft would be more useful as a
civilian
-Sent to advanced flight school and learned how to fly twin-engine aircraft
-It was frustrating the first time that he had to land a plane on his own
-Eventually mastered it, and after that it was easy

�-Did "stage" landing
-Learning how to land at marked off parts of the airfield
-Training pilots how to land on island airstrips where space was limited
-He could always hit the spot exactly because he had excellent vision
-All of his training was complete by early 1944
-By then he felt totally prepared to fly overseas
(00:20:25) Flying Missions in the South Pacific
-Sent to New Guinea and was assigned to the 41st Squadron of the 317th Troop Carrier
Group
-Flew C-47 transport planes
-Went to Hollandia, New Guinea by ship
-Anytime after June 1944
-Sent up to the islands of Luzon and Leyte in the Philippines, then Okinawa
-Leyte in November 1944, Luzon in March 1945, and Okinawa August 1945
-Carried supplies and dropped paratroopers in airborne operations
-Took part in the Battle of Corregidor in February 1945
-Dropped paratroopers on the island
-Dropped ammunition and supplies to the soldiers and marines fighting in the mountains
-Flew vehicles to troops on the ground
-Flew injured men to hospitals and to places where they could be taken to hospital ships
-Could carry three jeeps for a vehicle drop
-Crew was a pilot, co-pilot, radio operator, navigator, and a crew chief
-Didn't always fly with the same men
-Dropped napalm on Japanese positions in the mountains
-Would be only about 1,500 feet off of the ground
-Lost planes due to ground fire
-Flew in groups of three, or four, for the napalm missions
-One of the men shot down on one mission was his tent mate and a close friend
-Initially rescued by U.S. troops, but ultimately died of his wounds
-Co-pilot on that plane was also killed in action
-Only needed four more hours of flight time then he was going
home
(00:27:38) Living Conditions Pt. 1, Contact with Home, and Protocol
-While on Luzon in the Philippines they were stationed south of Clark Field
-When he was overseas his only shelter was a tent
-Had to sleep with mosquito netting covering him
-Living conditions were hot and primitive
-Had to deal with jungle rot, but you usually healed quickly from it
-One of his duties as an officer was to censor outgoing mail
-Hated to do that
-Felt that it was an invasion of privacy and no one was comfortable with
that
-A lot of the enlisted men were much older than the officers
-Awkward to be saluted and called "sir" by a man that was old enough to be your
father
-Issued "points"

�-The points system was a way to track which soldiers were eligible to be sent
home
-Points were issued on length of service, rank, combat seen, and dependents
-He wrote a lot of letters to his grandmother
(00:34:13) Travel
-Got R&amp;R while he was overseas
-When they were in the lower Philippines pilots would be sent to Sydney, Australia
-He missed out on that because he hadn't seen enough action
-When they were in the northern Philippines he got an R&amp;R to an old, Filipino resort
-Had a cottage, swimming pool, and a servant
-Went up there with four other pilots
-Spent most of the time relaxing and playing cards
-Went to Manila and visited the University of Santo Tomas
-Had been used as a major internment camp by the Japanese during the
occupation
-Met some young women and had dinner with their relatives
-Opportunity to hear firsthand what it had been like under Japanese rule
(00:38:00) Dangers of Flying
-Didn't feel in danger every time that he flew a mission
-There were a few times where he thought he was going to have ditch the plane due to
weather
-One instance was after the war when he was flying from Okinawa to Seoul,
Korea
-His mission was to deliver radio equipment to the airfield in Seoul
-Clouds were so thick that he had to fly by instruments to get to the west coast of
Korea
-Eventually got under the clouds and followed the coast to the Han River
-Picked up a radio relay from a B-25 that was giving landing instructions
-Once he landed his plane only had fifteen minutes of gas left
-Had to spend the night in Seoul to wait for a fuel resupply
drop
-The crew he flew with had just arrived from the United
States
(00:44:03) End of Service, Morale, &amp; Living Conditions Pt. 2
-Discharged in March 1946
-Had flown almost every day during his deployment
-Morale was good for the pilots, but not so good for the enlisted men
-A lot of the enlisted men were frustrated about being overseas so long
-On average, men in the Pacific were gone longer and dealing with worse
conditions
-He was overseas for about a year and a half
-Got to see some USO Shows and some movies
-The food was okay
-Fed "bully beef" (corned beef) and hard tack
(00:47:35) End of War, Post-War Service, &amp; Coming Home
-He was on Okinawa on Victory in Japan Day (August 15, 1945)

�-Someone from headquarters came out shouting that Japan had surrendered
-Had been expecting it after the atomic bombs were dropped
-It was a huge relief, and there was a great celebration
-He was kept overseas for a couple months after the war
-Took a ship back to the United States
-Stayed in old dormitories and had nice rooms for a change
-There wasn't much to do in Okinawa after the war was over
-There was a nearby community theatre that was used for USO Shows
-Would take new pilots up for a flight to help them get used to the airplane
-He flew by Hiroshima and Nagasaki after the war was over
-Had expected to see destruction, and a lot of rubble
-Wasn't prepared to see an entire city laid flat and devoid of life
Note: Since Dr. Browne was in the service until March 1946 he was also most likely
stationed at Kimpo Airfield, Korea and Tachikawa Airfield, Japan before being sent
home
-Taken to Oregon
-Boarded a train in Oregon and went to Fort Sheridan, Illinois
-Rather than be discharged he was placed in the Reserves
-This was because pilots were too valuable to simply be discharged
-He knew men that were called up for duty during the Korean War
-He wasn't called up because he was pursuing his medical
profession
-At twenty nine years of age you could resign from the Reserves, which he
did
(00:54:50) Life after the War Pt. 2
-He was able to use the GI Bill in college which was a tremendous help
-The GI Bill with his savings from the military freed him from working during
college
(00:56:11) Reflections on Service
-Feels that he matured quite rapidly, moreso than he would have otherwise
-Believes that a lot of that may have had to do with being a pilot with
responsibilities
-Had no trouble returning to civilian life after the war

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Robert Boyer
World War II
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(00:00:10) Early Life
-Born on July 5, 1918 in Conway, Arkansas
-His father was a Presbyterian minister
-The family moved around quite a bit because of his father’s job
-Moved into Kansas because his father worked for the University of Kansas
-Then moved to Hastings, Nebraska
-Then moved to Kansas City, Missouri
-Then Vincennes, Indiana
-Then Saginaw, Michigan
-Graduated from high school in Saginaw, Michigan in 1936
-Went to the University of Michigan and got his bachelor’s degree in 1940
-Pursued his master’s degree and got that in 1941
-Planned to study law, then decided to study history and become a teacher
(00:01:53) News of the War
-He paid a lot of attention to the Nazis’ actions in Europe
-He didn’t really think too much about the United States getting involved in the war
(00:02:36) Life after the War Pt. 1
-He got a teaching job in Clyde, Ohio
-Taught there from fall 1941 to spring 1942 then got drafted
-After the war he returned to Clyde, Ohio and taught there for two more years
-Then taught in St. Louis, Michigan
-Moved to Rockford, Michigan and began teaching there in 1949
-Has lived there ever since
(00:03:45) Start of the War
-He was reading the Detroit Free Press and had the radio on
-Heard news flash at 12:27PM on December 7, 1941 that Pearl Harbor had been bombed
-He knew that he would probably get drafted after the school year ended in 1942
(00:04:18) Getting Drafted and Basic Training
-He got drafted in June 1942
-He sworn into the Army in Detroit, Michigan
-From Detroit he was sent to Fort Totten in New York City, New York
-Became part of the coastal anti-aircraft artillery unit there
-He was placed in the medical unit that was attached to the anti-aircraft artillery
-Received some basic training
-A few days of marching, and learning how to follow orders
-There were some men with college degrees, others with high school diplomas
-Most of the men were in their early twenties
-The fort was in the northern part of Brooklyn
-He was assigned to the 62nd Air Defense Artillery Regiment

�-Had 40mm and 90mm anti-aircraft guns as well as search lights
-A few weeks later his training was done
(00:07:56) Visiting New York City
-He got to go into New York City almost every day
-Men always took the chance to go into the city no matter how tired they were
-They would take public transportation into the city
-Movies, stage shows, coffee, and ice cream was free for soldiers in uniform
-Even in some cases meals were free
(00:09:44) Medical Training
-He learned about basic first aid and how to administer shots
-They had doctors as commanding officers
-There were a few West Point graduates that were good men
-They were considerate and reasonable
-Several of the doctors had civilian careers and families
-He felt bad for them because they had to stop their lives for the war
(00:11:34) Life after the War Pt. 2
-He met his wife after he got back from the war
-They met on Labor Day, got engaged by Thanksgiving, and got married in June
(00:12:39) Deployment to Europe
-Assembled in Camp Kilmer, New Jersey
-They boarded the Queen Elizabeth and sailed overseas aboard her
-It was her maiden voyage as a troop transport
-There were still some luxury features that had not been removed
-They travelled without an escort and zig-zagged to avoid U-Boats
-They could outrun U-Boats
-The voyage took five days
-The waves were high
-He was in the rear of the ship which was the best place to be
-This was because there was very little up and down motion
-The men that he was quartered with did not get seasick
-They got fed in the ship’s dining area and got served actual food
-They were fed three meals a day
-They were allowed to go on the deck to get fresh air
-Set sail on August 30, 1942 and arrived in the United Kingdom on September 6, 1942
(00:17:10) Stationed in the United Kingdom
-They landed in Scotland
-The Scots were welcoming and greeted them with tea and pastries
-From Scotland they took a train down to southern England
-Specifically to Salisbury, England
-Their 40mm guns, 90mm guns, and searchlights were already there
-The size of the regiment was 2,100 men
-1 battalion for the 40mm, 1 battalion for the 90mm, 1 battalion for the searchlights
-They were in Salisbury from September 7, 1942 to October 25, 1942
(00:19:28) Invasion of North Africa Pt. 1
-From Salisbury they took a train back up to Scotland
-There were smaller boats waiting for them to invade North Africa

�(00:19:44) Exploring England
-They were allowed to go off the base into the town of Salisbury
-He visited London at least six times
-There were still air raids against London in 1942
-The area around St. Paul’s Cathedral was destroyed
-He got to see #10 Downing Street, Prime Minister Churchill’s headquarters
(00:21:38) Invasion of North Africa Pt. 2
-They boarded a smaller ship in Scotland that was part of a nine ship convoy
-They sailed west into the Atlantic Ocean
-There were rumors that they were sailing back to New York City
-Eventually the convoy was joined by a Canadian corvette to defend them
-More ships joined them that came from the United States and they sailed east
-They landed at a place near Oran, Algeria
-They passed through the Straits of Gibraltar
-They were given French lessons on the voyage over
-This was because they were invading a French territory
-They sailed parallel to the coast while the Allied forces invaded
-He saw the fighting that was happening on the beachhead
-The Americans were engaging the Vichy French forces
-After the fighting settled down they went ashore
-The first night they were in Algeria a sandstorm hit them
-They were stationed in a fort outside of Oran for two days
(00:26:06) Stationed in Oran
-They moved into Oran and established medical facilities in the city
-They took over a garage and an office building for medical facilities
-Their job was to treat the first casualties of the invasion
-They slept in a building across from the improvised medical buildings
-They stayed in Oran until spring 1943
-At 5AM each morning German aircraft would harass their positions
-During one air raid the Germans managed to hit one of their 40mm gun positions
-Killed a handful of men
(00:28:54) Interactions with Civilians
-There were a lot of Arabs in the area
-The children would sell fruit to the American troops
-The Arab civilians weren’t a problem
-A lot of them were hired to do various menial tasks for the Americans
-They welcomed the American soldiers
-He didn’t see much of the French colonists or French soldiers
-They basically disappeared after the invasion
(00:30:54) Casualties in North Africa
-They only sustained twenty casualties from German attacks
-More men got killed or wounded from accidents
-One man messed up a fuse on a shell and it detonated only 1 second after being fired
-The explosion wounded seven men, but nothing life threatening
-He helped to treat them
-Traffic accidents were also a source of casualties

�-Remembered once when a man hit a mule with his jeep
-The jeep rolled over and the soldier was killed
(00:33:30) Advancing Across North Africa
-He didn’t see many high ranking officers while he was in North Africa
-He does remember seeing General Eisenhower and Kay Summersby
-They advanced across North Africa
-Got into Tunisia in June 1943 and guarded B-17 airfield there
(00:34:43) Invasion of Sicily
-He took part in the invasion of Sicily in July 1943
-They landed at Licata, Sicily on July 23, 1943 a few hours after the invasion began
-Advanced across Sicily towards the north
-He saw Sicilian farmers threshing wheat by throwing it in the air to separate the chaff
-They guarded piers, wharves, and airfields
-Every morning German aircraft would harass their positions
-Most likely just scouts because an actual attack would be suicidal
(00:36:45) Contact with Sicilians
-They had contact with the Sicilian civilians
-The children were enthusiastic about being around the gun positions
-It was initially considered suspicious
-Thought that they were being used as pro-German informants
-Suspicion was dispelled when a child turned in a German spy
-They were allowed to visit the towns and the villages
-He got to see Palermo because he was stationed there in November 1943
-The first night he was there he had to sleep in a flowerbed
-There was very little fraternization with Sicilian women, or problems with drinking
-Most of the men appreciated being allowed to explore freely
-Didn’t want to lose that privilege
(00:39:22) General Patton
-In Palermo there was a Red Cross station that served ice cream and coffee
-Remembers seeing General Patton at the Red Cross station and heard him talk
-He had a surprisingly high voice
-He stayed in Palermo for fifty weeks and saw Patton at least once a day
-Patton ordered his men to salute the car when he passed
-To avoid having to do that he would duck into a shop when he saw his car
-He heard about Patton slapping a shell-shocked soldier in a hospital
-Didn’t think much of it at the time
-Led to Patton being reassigned to the 3rd Army
-Also cost him his chance at leading soldiers into France on D-Day
(00:43:08) Invasion of Southern France
-Prior to the invasion of southern France he was sent over to mainland Italy
-Sailed over to southern France and landed at Marseilles in August 1944
-It was an easier invasion than the others had been
-The Germans were nearby, but retreated quickly
(00:45:37) Stationed in Marseilles
-He spent the winter of 1944 in Marseilles
-They took over a university in Marseilles where they lived and worked

�-They turned the physics building into a hospital
-Their gun positions were set up in downtown Marseilles
-They were allowed to visit downtown Marseilles
-Because they were stationed in the university they were away from the corruption and crime
-Their guns were guarding the harbor and the train station
-German aircraft would occasionally buzz the area, but generally didn’t bother
-He stayed in Marseilles until spring 1945
(00:48:20) Getting Commissioned
-While the Battle of the Bulge happened he went to Paris to get a commission
-The process involved taking an exam and being interviewed
-He got stuck in Paris for about one week because it was too cloudy for aircraft
-The commission was to get a position as a medical administrator
-Once the weather cleared he flew back to Marseilles
-A week later he found out that he passed the exam
-If a need for a medical administrator arose he would be granted the position
-But if he was granted the position it meant six more months of service
-He didn’t get the position, and in retrospect is glad that he didn’t
(00:52:11) Advancing into Germany
-In spring 1945 they moved into northern France and crossed into Germany
-Went into northeastern France and crossed the shattered Siegfried Line
-All of northeastern France was war torn
-He saw German cities in ruins
-He didn’t see many German civilians
-Took over intact, abandoned houses as they advanced
(00:54:14) End of the War
-When they war ended they were sent to Heidelberg
-Stayed there for a few weeks
(00:54:23) Coming Home
-From Heidelberg he was sent to Paris, then to Le Havre and took a troopship home
-The weather was good on the return voyage
-Arrived in Boston and took a train to Evanston, Illinois to be discharged
-Went to El Dorado, Kansas where his parents had moved
-After seeing his parents he went back to teaching in Ohio in the fall of 1945
(00:56:25) Reflections on Service
-It taught him patience and how to have a sense of humor with people
-Taught him to appreciate different peoples and different cultures
-Enjoyed being in the same area as his cousin while he was in Sicily
-In general he had a good experience
-Felt lucky all the way through his time in the Army

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