281 24 26018 https://digitalcollections.library.gvsu.edu/files/original/5541867396e6fa94b6c31ea40fb54f8e.pdf 00598e9c959e3701b3cfdbd86771be61 PDF Text Text SAY Support the Dressel/Bullard CIVIL RIGHTS AMENDMENT BILL FOR MICHIGAN against discrimination in employment & housing due to sexual preferences YES ..• we want to help make Michigan a better, safer place for all of us. You can help and enjoy a truly elegant gourmet dinner with wine and dessert. .. DATE: Thursday, Oct. 13, 1983 TIME: 8 p.m. PLACE: Sir Douglas, Douglas, Michigan CONTRIBUTION: $50 per plate or Contribute $100 or more per plate and enjoy a cocktail party with hors d'oeuvres at 7 p.m. to meet Rep. Dressel, the Ottawa County State Representative who is introducing this bill. All food and liquor donated by Douglas Dunes and staff Make checks payable to M.O.H.R. All contributions are tax deductible ------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- YES ■ ■ ■ Please reserve _ _ _ _ places for this exciting evening. My check is enclosed. _ _ $50 (or more) contribution Dinner-Cash Bar _ _ $100 (or more) contribution Cocktail Party and Dinner with Open Bar NAME _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ __ ADDRESS-------------- NO.. .I cannot attend but I enclose my contribution of$_ _ __ � Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Summers in Saugatuck-Douglas Collection Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Grand Valley State University. Kutsche Office of Local History Description An account of the resource Collection contains images and documents digitized and collected through the project "Stories of Summer," supported by a National Endowment for the Humanities Common Heritage Grant. The collection aims to document the twin lakeshore communities of Saugatuck and Douglas, Michigan, as they transformed through the state's bustling tourism industry and acceptance of minorities. Coverage The spatial or temporal topic of the resource, the spatial applicability of the resource, or the jurisdiction under which the resource is relevant 1910s-2010s Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Various Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource <a href="http://rightsstatements.org/vocab/UND/1.0/">Copyright Undetermined</a> Subject The topic of the resource Michigan Saugatuck (Mich.) Douglas (Mich.) Michigan, Lake Allegan County (Mich.) Beaches Sand dunes Outdoor recreation Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available Grand Valley State University Libraries. Allendale, Michigan Contributor An entity responsible for making contributions to the resource Saugatuck-Douglas History Center Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context Stories of Summer (Common Heritage project) Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource image/jpeg application/pdf Type The nature or genre of the resource Image Text Language A language of the resource English Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 2018 Still Image A static visual representation. Examples include paintings, drawings, graphic designs, plans and maps. Recommended best practice is to assign the type Text to images of textual materials. Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context DC-07_SD-DouglasDunes_0007 Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 1983-10 Title A name given to the resource Dressel/Builard Civil Rights Amendment Description An account of the resource Advertisement flier for supporting the Dressel/Bullard Civil Rights Amendment Bill for Michigan, which is "against discrimination in employment and housing due to sexual preferences." Additionally there is information on contributions, a gourmet dinner at Sir Douglas, and a slip to contribute to the dinner and cocktail party. Subject The topic of the resource Michigan Douglas (Mich.) Allegan County (Mich) Advertising fliers Gay culture, Sexual minorities Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Digital file contributed by the Saugatuck Douglas History Center as part of the Stories of Summer project. Relation A related resource Stories of Summer (project) Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource <a href="http://rightsstatements.org/vocab/UND/1.0/">Copyright Undetermined</a> Type The nature or genre of the resource Text Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource application/pdf Language A language of the resource eng Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available Grand Valley State University. University Libraries. Lemmen Library and Archives https://digitalcollections.library.gvsu.edu/files/original/035dd43efaccf1238f9d85cd679b6730.jpg 71e9a82532fa3f1fc875e8635ded8cde Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Summers in Saugatuck-Douglas Collection Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Grand Valley State University. Kutsche Office of Local History Description An account of the resource Collection contains images and documents digitized and collected through the project "Stories of Summer," supported by a National Endowment for the Humanities Common Heritage Grant. The collection aims to document the twin lakeshore communities of Saugatuck and Douglas, Michigan, as they transformed through the state's bustling tourism industry and acceptance of minorities. Coverage The spatial or temporal topic of the resource, the spatial applicability of the resource, or the jurisdiction under which the resource is relevant 1910s-2010s Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Various Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource <a href="http://rightsstatements.org/vocab/UND/1.0/">Copyright Undetermined</a> Subject The topic of the resource Michigan Saugatuck (Mich.) Douglas (Mich.) Michigan, Lake Allegan County (Mich.) Beaches Sand dunes Outdoor recreation Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available Grand Valley State University Libraries. Allendale, Michigan Contributor An entity responsible for making contributions to the resource Saugatuck-Douglas History Center Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context Stories of Summer (Common Heritage project) Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource image/jpeg application/pdf Type The nature or genre of the resource Image Text Language A language of the resource English Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 2018 Still Image A static visual representation. Examples include paintings, drawings, graphic designs, plans and maps. Recommended best practice is to assign the type Text to images of textual materials. Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context DC-07_SD-LordB_Dresses-and-Aprons Title A name given to the resource Dresses and aprons Description An account of the resource Page from Bob Lord's family photograph album with four photos. Top left and bottom left are photos of the same young girl wearing a dress in a living room with a Christmas tree. Top right is a man wearing an apron in a kitchen. Bottom right is a young girl in a traditional Dutch costume with wooden shoes and an apron. Subject The topic of the resource Michigan Saugatuck (Mich.) Allegan County (Mich.) Families Children Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Digital file collected by the Kutsche Office of History as part of the Stories of Summer Project. Relation A related resource Stories of Summer (project) Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource <a href="http://rightsstatements.org/vocab/UND/1.0/">Copyright Undetermined</a> Type The nature or genre of the resource Image Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource image/jpeg Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available Grand Valley State University. University Libraries. Lemmen Library and Archives https://digitalcollections.library.gvsu.edu/files/original/933f8dc11f2bf534d4c2787a341804b4.pdf 9be1b5b837a0b267cc18907957961d5f PDF Text Text Grand Valley State University Veterans History Project Interview Korean War Era Robert Drew Introduction (00:00:02) • Born March 16th, 1930 in Decatur, Indiana (00:00:42) ◦ Robert Drew lived in a farm community for his whole life til age 19 with his family of eight; six from the Drew family along with his grandfather and grandmother (00:01:14) ◦ The farm era of Drew's life revolved around the time period of the Great Depression which made things difficult because there wasn't much employment due to the depression time in his early years (00:02:37) ◦ His family had farm produce to keep them afloat so it wasn't too bad, although there was a lack of money (00:03:06) ▪ Robert was the first and only in his family to enter the military (00:03:32) • Robert was motivated to go into the military by being able to choose his own branch rather than to be drafted somewhere he did not want to go; he enlisted in the Air Force (00:04:03) • Robert joined the National Guard first while still going to school; he was able to choose his branch of service and at that time was unaware of any other branch of service which he could of joined; this took place in Ft. Wayne, Indiana (00:04:29) Air Force (00:04:43) • Robert's job was with the Tactical Air Force and was attached to a radar unit; the radar unit was on the front lines; they didn't have any equipment at the airfield he was at the time, and Robert did not take any basic training (00:05:21) • Robert did air traffic control and listened to planes and saw how they were lined up in order in landing procedure so there wasn't two landing at the same time; in this time period the planes changed from propellor to jet engine (00:06:33) ◦ Robert enlisted for three years and then got his discharge and enlisted for another year (00:07:44) ▪ Robert got his discharge after three years because the Korean War had ended in 1953; Robert started school in September of 1953 (00:08:15) • He went to school on a suggestion from a high school teacher; he went to Ball State Teachers College in Muncie, Indiana (00:08:40) • With the Government Issue (GI) Bill, the government paid Robert $110 per month to go to college (00:09:43) ◦ After Robert graduated college in 1957, he went right into teaching; Robert took a job in Zeeland, Michigan in the fall of 1957 and is still there today (00:10:19) Life in the Barracks (00:13:47) • Because the Korean War was winding down when Robert arrived, as a radar operator, Robert remembers his equipment not being up to date (00:14:15) • Robert remembers doing very little radar operating work due to the lack of equipment (00:15:01) • Robert did a lot of volunteer duty, one such as main gate duty; he had a .45 but never shot nor knew how to use it (00:17:16) • From around (00:17:20) til (00:22:01) Robert explains the different rankings of the Air Force at �• • the time and how each one could be achieved Robert was stationed at Shaw Air Force Base in South Carolina when his time came up for a Staff Sergeant promotion by the review board where they held an hour interrogation by the officers; Robert passed but was only under National Guard jurisdiction and told him he was going to be discharged (00:24:07) ◦ Robert traveled around quite a bit but was never issued a National Guard vehicle so they had to use their own cars (00:26:21) ▪ Unless the men had guard duty, they had weekends off; Robert went to church often and traveled as much as he could (00:28:00) ▪ Robert had a 1948 Plymouth Club Coupe to drive around in; it was his favorite vehicle and he still wishes he had it today (00:28:29) It was easy for Robert and his family to keep in touch as he had mail call every day even though they did not have a telephone; letter writing was the primary way too keep in touch (00:29:07) Post Military Life (00:30:31) • Robert taught in 29 years in Zeeland, for his whole career; he was offered early retirement which he took, Robert and his wife traveled quite a bit and did basic volunteer work (00:31:03) • Robert viewed the military as good experience although he mentions he didn't accomplish anything there because of the time period and the end of the war; he was on 24 hour notice to Korea and had his stuff packed (00:31:42) • The overall discipline and having a crew of men where Robert made the decisions carried over to his school career (00:33:00) � Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Veterans History Project Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Grand Valley State University. History Department Description An account of the resource The Library of Congress established the Veterans History Project in 2001 to collect memories, accounts, and documents of U.S. war veterans from World War II and the Korean War, Vietnam War, and conflicts in the Middle East and elsewhere, and to preserve these stories for future generations. The GVSU History Department interviews are part of this work-in-progress, and may contain videos and audio recordings, transcripts and interview outlines, and related documents and photographs. Coverage The spatial or temporal topic of the resource, the spatial applicability of the resource, or the jurisdiction under which the resource is relevant 1914- Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource <a href="http://rightsstatements.org/page/InC/1.0/?language=en">In Copyright</a> Subject The topic of the resource Afghan War, 2001--Personal narratives, American Iran Hostage Crisis, 1979-1981--Personal narratives, American Korean War, 1950-1953--Personal narratives, American Michigan--History, Military Oral history Persian Gulf War, 1991--Personal narratives, American United States--History, Military United States. Air Force United States. Army United States. Navy Veterans Video recordings Vietnam War, 1961-1975--Personal narratives, American World War, 1939-1945--Personal narratives, American Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available Grand Valley State University. University Libraries. Special Collections & University Archives Contributor An entity responsible for making contributions to the resource Smither, James Boring, Frank Relation A related resource Veterans History Project (U.S.) Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context RHC-27 Language A language of the resource eng Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived <a href="https://gvsu.lyrasistechnology.org/repositories/2/resources/455">Veterans History Project interviews (RHC-27)</a> Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Drew, Robert (Interview outline), 2013 Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Drew, Robert Description An account of the resource Robert Drew was born on March 16th, 1930 in Decatur, Indiana. Robert was the first and only member of his family to enter the military. He joined the National Guard while going to school and then chose to join the Air Force before the United States had a chance to draft him to a branch of service he would have not preferred. Robert was part of the Tactical Air Force unit and did air traffic control. He never left the United States due to the timing of the war. Robert was discharged after three years because the Korean War came to an end. Contributor An entity responsible for making contributions to the resource Drew, Marissa (Interviewer) Subject The topic of the resource Oral history Veterans History Project (U.S.) United States--History, Military Michigan--History, Military Veterans Video recordings Korean War, 1950-1953--Personal narratives, American United States. National Guard United States. Air Force Language A language of the resource eng Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource <a href="http://rightsstatements.org/page/InC/1.0/?language=en">In Copyright</a> Type The nature or genre of the resource Text Relation A related resource Veterans History Project (U.S.) Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 2013-04-06 Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context DrewR1502V Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived <a href="https://gvsu.lyrasistechnology.org/repositories/2/resources/455">Veterans History Project Collection, (RHC-27)</a> Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource application/pdf Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available Grand Valley State University. University Libraries. Lemmen Library and Archives https://digitalcollections.library.gvsu.edu/files/original/d788bc7aadef7a3d12d2898c0c167811.jpg c6cd8b17439833cc035c2a3257671457 Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Decorated Publishers' Bindings Subject The topic of the resource Book covers Covers (Illustration) Graphic arts Publishers and publishing Pictorial bindings Description An account of the resource From the early 1870s to roughly 1930, many publishers issued their commercial book covers with a remarkable variety of graphic designs and illustrations. This sixty-year period saw many artists and designers contributing to this art form. While some can be identified from their style or initials, others remain unknown. Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Seidman Rare Books Collection Michigan Novels Collection Regional Historical Collection Lincoln and the Civil War Collection Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available Grand Valley State University. University Libraries. Special Collections & University Archives Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 2017-08-30 Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource <a href="http://rightsstatements.org/page/InC/1.0/?language=en">In Copyright</a>, <a href="http://rightsstatements.org/page/NoC-US/1.0/?language=en">No Copyright - United States</a> Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource image/jpg Language A language of the resource eng Type The nature or genre of the resource Image Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context DC-01 Still Image A static visual representation. Examples include paintings, drawings, graphic designs, plans and maps. Recommended best practice is to assign the type Text to images of textual materials. Source Regional Historical Collection. PS1257 .D75 1908 Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context DC-01_Bindings0067 Title A name given to the resource Drifted In Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Decorative Designers (Designer) Description An account of the resource Binding of Drifted In, by Will Carleton, published by Moffat, Yard, 1908. Subject The topic of the resource Book covers Covers (Illustration) Graphic arts Publishers and publishing Pictorial bindings Language A language of the resource eng Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource <a href="http://rightsstatements.org/page/NoC-US/1.0/?language=en">No Copyright - United States</a> Type The nature or genre of the resource Image Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource image/jpeg Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 1908 Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available Grand Valley State University. University Libraries. Lemmen Library and Archives https://digitalcollections.library.gvsu.edu/files/original/67a6fb29f32d5d8ff13f62b6402f6cdc.jpg 3b11e71c6ecc88b4ae12afbf38a596dc Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Summers in Saugatuck-Douglas Collection Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Grand Valley State University. Kutsche Office of Local History Description An account of the resource Collection contains images and documents digitized and collected through the project "Stories of Summer," supported by a National Endowment for the Humanities Common Heritage Grant. The collection aims to document the twin lakeshore communities of Saugatuck and Douglas, Michigan, as they transformed through the state's bustling tourism industry and acceptance of minorities. Coverage The spatial or temporal topic of the resource, the spatial applicability of the resource, or the jurisdiction under which the resource is relevant 1910s-2010s Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Various Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource <a href="http://rightsstatements.org/vocab/UND/1.0/">Copyright Undetermined</a> Subject The topic of the resource Michigan Saugatuck (Mich.) Douglas (Mich.) Michigan, Lake Allegan County (Mich.) Beaches Sand dunes Outdoor recreation Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available Grand Valley State University Libraries. Allendale, Michigan Contributor An entity responsible for making contributions to the resource Saugatuck-Douglas History Center Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context Stories of Summer (Common Heritage project) Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource image/jpeg application/pdf Type The nature or genre of the resource Image Text Language A language of the resource English Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 2018 Still Image A static visual representation. Examples include paintings, drawings, graphic designs, plans and maps. Recommended best practice is to assign the type Text to images of textual materials. Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context DC-07_SD-70s-coll_0009 Title A name given to the resource Driftwood Shaped like a Dragon Description An account of the resource Black and white photograph of a large driftwood log that is uniquely shaped and appears to look like a dragon. It is sitting on the sand among the dunes and weathered from its surrounding environment. Subject The topic of the resource Michigan Saugatuck (Mich) Allegan County (Mich) Sand dunes Black-and-white photography Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Digital file contributed by the Saugatuck Douglas History Center as part of the Stories of Summer project. Relation A related resource Stories of Summer (project) Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource <a href="http://rightsstatements.org/vocab/UND/1.0/">Copyright Undetermined</a> Type The nature or genre of the resource Image Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource image/jpeg Language A language of the resource eng Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available Grand Valley State University. University Libraries. Lemmen Library and Archives https://digitalcollections.library.gvsu.edu/files/original/117854252b2fe7c3a9787c019235fa50.jpg 415551c0256393a643d543d4b3833f23 Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Douglas R. Gilbert Photographs Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Gilbert, Douglas R., 1942-2023 Description An account of the resource Photographs scanned from negatives and transparencies from the Douglas R. Gilbert papers (RHC-183). Douglas R. Gilbert (b. 1942) is an American photographer from Michigan. He was born in Holland, Michigan and is the son of Russell W. and Carmen (Andree) Gilbert. Gilbert earned a B.A. in social sciences and art at Michigan State University in 1964, an M.S. in photography from the Institute of Design at Illinois Institute of Technology in 1972, and a M.S.W. from Salem State College in 1993. He is married to Barbara (McDonald) Gilbert, and has three daughters, Robyn, Rachel, and Anne. Gilbert took a serious interest in photography at the age of fourteen. In 1963 he joined the staff of Look magazine in New York as the second youngest photojournalist in the magazine's history. As a Look photographer from 1964 to 1966, he photographed folk musician Bob Dylan, the Newport Folk Festival, Simon and Garfunkel, the New York City Financial District, the children and facilities at the Manhattan School for Seriously Disturbed Children. From 1967 to 1969, Gilbert did several shoots, including that of folk singer Janis Ian for Life magazine. After moving to Chicago, Illinois in 1969 to attend the Illinois Institute of Technology, Gilbert conducted notable photo shoots of business and political figure Lenore Romney, and pursued more personal and artistic photography, focusing on urban and rural landscapes in Illinois and Michigan. He then joined the faculty of Wheaton College, where he taught from 1972 to 1982. In 1993, Gilbert graduated from Salem State College, Massachusetts, with a Masters in Social Work, and later pursued a second career as a psychotherapist. Douglas Gilbert died in June 2023. Throughout his photography career, he pursued both freelance commercial work as well as artistic work. His art photography is characterized by its classic black-and-white format, and features people, places and objects shot great attention and sensitivity. Gilbert's works are held in the permanent collections of the Art Institute of Chicago, the High Museum of Art in Atlanta, The Norton Simon Museum in Pasadena, and the Grand Valley State University Art Galleries, as well as in numerous private and institutional collections. Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 1960-2011 Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived <a href="%E2%80%9Dhttps%3A//gvsu.lyrasistechnology.org/repositories/2/resources/783%E2%80%9D">Douglas R. Gilbert Papers (RHC-183)</a> Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource In Copyright Subject The topic of the resource Photographs Photography -- United States Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available Grand Valley State University. University Libraries. Special Collections and University Archives. Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context RHC-183 Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource Image Type The nature or genre of the resource image/jpeg Language A language of the resource eng Still Image A static visual representation. Examples include paintings, drawings, graphic designs, plans and maps. Recommended best practice is to assign the type Text to images of textual materials. Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context RHC-183_N071-0018a Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Gilbert, Douglas R. Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 1973-06-11 Title A name given to the resource Drive-in theatre, Elgin, Illinois Description An account of the resource Black and white photograph featuring a landscape view of a drive-in theater located in Elgin, Illinois. Scanned from the negative. Subject The topic of the resource Drive-in theaters--Illinois Cook County (Ill.) Kane County (Ill.) Black-and-white photography Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived <a href="https://gvsu.lyrasistechnology.org/repositories/2/resources/783">Douglas R. Gilbert papers (RHC-183)</a> Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource <a href="http://rightsstatements.org/vocab/InC/1.0/">In Copyright</a> Type The nature or genre of the resource Image Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource image/jpeg Coverage The spatial or temporal topic of the resource, the spatial applicability of the resource, or the jurisdiction under which the resource is relevant 1970s Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available Grand Valley State University. University Libraries. Lemmen Library and Archives https://digitalcollections.library.gvsu.edu/files/original/1c88ee3d1577415376c42d530fb1e127.jpg a5b3a14f37bb7ea8ae1761393ee8601b Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Douglas R. Gilbert Photographs Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Gilbert, Douglas R., 1942-2023 Description An account of the resource Photographs scanned from negatives and transparencies from the Douglas R. Gilbert papers (RHC-183). Douglas R. Gilbert (b. 1942) is an American photographer from Michigan. He was born in Holland, Michigan and is the son of Russell W. and Carmen (Andree) Gilbert. Gilbert earned a B.A. in social sciences and art at Michigan State University in 1964, an M.S. in photography from the Institute of Design at Illinois Institute of Technology in 1972, and a M.S.W. from Salem State College in 1993. He is married to Barbara (McDonald) Gilbert, and has three daughters, Robyn, Rachel, and Anne. Gilbert took a serious interest in photography at the age of fourteen. In 1963 he joined the staff of Look magazine in New York as the second youngest photojournalist in the magazine's history. As a Look photographer from 1964 to 1966, he photographed folk musician Bob Dylan, the Newport Folk Festival, Simon and Garfunkel, the New York City Financial District, the children and facilities at the Manhattan School for Seriously Disturbed Children. From 1967 to 1969, Gilbert did several shoots, including that of folk singer Janis Ian for Life magazine. After moving to Chicago, Illinois in 1969 to attend the Illinois Institute of Technology, Gilbert conducted notable photo shoots of business and political figure Lenore Romney, and pursued more personal and artistic photography, focusing on urban and rural landscapes in Illinois and Michigan. He then joined the faculty of Wheaton College, where he taught from 1972 to 1982. In 1993, Gilbert graduated from Salem State College, Massachusetts, with a Masters in Social Work, and later pursued a second career as a psychotherapist. Douglas Gilbert died in June 2023. Throughout his photography career, he pursued both freelance commercial work as well as artistic work. His art photography is characterized by its classic black-and-white format, and features people, places and objects shot great attention and sensitivity. Gilbert's works are held in the permanent collections of the Art Institute of Chicago, the High Museum of Art in Atlanta, The Norton Simon Museum in Pasadena, and the Grand Valley State University Art Galleries, as well as in numerous private and institutional collections. Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 1960-2011 Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived <a href="%E2%80%9Dhttps%3A//gvsu.lyrasistechnology.org/repositories/2/resources/783%E2%80%9D">Douglas R. Gilbert Papers (RHC-183)</a> Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource In Copyright Subject The topic of the resource Photographs Photography -- United States Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available Grand Valley State University. University Libraries. Special Collections and University Archives. Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context RHC-183 Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource Image Type The nature or genre of the resource image/jpeg Language A language of the resource eng Still Image A static visual representation. Examples include paintings, drawings, graphic designs, plans and maps. Recommended best practice is to assign the type Text to images of textual materials. Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context RHC-183_N073-0026a Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Gilbert, Douglas R. Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 1973-06-11 Title A name given to the resource Drive-in theatre, Elgin, Illinois Description An account of the resource Black and white photograph of the refreshment stand at a drive-in theater located in Elgin, Illinois. Scanned from the negative. Subject The topic of the resource Concessions (Amusements, etc.)--Illinois Drive-in theaters--Illinois Cook County (Ill.) Kane County (Ill.) Black-and-white photography Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived <a href="https://gvsu.lyrasistechnology.org/repositories/2/resources/783">Douglas R. Gilbert papers (RHC-183)</a> Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource <a href="http://rightsstatements.org/vocab/InC/1.0/">In Copyright</a> Type The nature or genre of the resource Image Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource image/jpeg Coverage The spatial or temporal topic of the resource, the spatial applicability of the resource, or the jurisdiction under which the resource is relevant 1970s Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available Grand Valley State University. University Libraries. Lemmen Library and Archives https://digitalcollections.library.gvsu.edu/files/original/d1a07c1baa32689a7d8826eb3d267ea2.pdf 6fa8e37d72d703bfecdb27ee25642c5a PDF Text Text Wo m e n and Ge nd e r St udi es & ~ GRAND~l.LEY LG BT Q M in o r Ad v ising \;/:f,/STATE lJNtVERSITY. Drop-In Adyising ; Please join the Broo ks College of f ; Advising and the Wo men and Ge n- ,l When: ' der Studi es De partme nt as they host ;Thursday, an advi sing 20 l 4 sessio n for W GS maj ors and stu- ,! dents interested in the majo r. ,I March J 3, Where: ;LOH 2nd Floor provide great advi ce and will help :Gathering Room , WGS staff and Brooks advi sors will plan your class schedule of the 2014-15 sc hool year! Good advice as we ll as good food will be provided. Please stop by! Brooks Colleg e Advising Center Phone: 6 16-33 1-8200 WGS Department Phone : 6 16-33 1-8058 � Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource GVSU Sexuality and Gender Flyers Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource The Rainbow Resource Center Women and Gender Studies Department Women's Commission Gayle R. 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Lemmen Library and Archives https://digitalcollections.library.gvsu.edu/files/original/a6e2f89b21e1e13720ab2149816e66c8.mp3 10a6c758f21fa394e94a6951911f9a3c https://digitalcollections.library.gvsu.edu/files/original/389be2d5f36808bdc683b151f78a100d.pdf db116260094e176da54b4d554a5f00eb PDF Text Text Dropping the Salvation Fantasy From the series: Spiritual Life – Religion Re-Imagined Text: Psalm 131; John 3:1-10 Richard A. Rhem Christ Community Church Spring Lake, Michigan July 14, 2002 Transcription of the spoken sermon I begin this morning a brief series of messages on the spiritual life—re-imagining religion. The connection between the two is this: they are not the same, but religion provides the form and the structure for the expression of one’s spiritual life. I believe it is good to think about that and perhaps to make an attempt to reimagine that religion, because religious forms and structures can aid and abet the expression of our spiritual life, or hinder and block, causing the spirit to wither. And so, from time to time, it is good to ask ourselves about our religious practice, our religious experience, the structures and the forms that we utilize in the expression of our spiritual life. Thomas Moore’s book The Soul’s Religion was a trigger for this discussion. Some years ago, Moore wrote The Care of the Soul, which impressed me a great deal. I like this book, too, not so much that I intend to share what he speaks of there, but I like the format. He speaks autobiographically. And as I was reading his story, I was reminded of my story and the fact that there is a great similarity in that he was deeply rooted in the Roman Catholic tradition, coming to the point of ordination to the priesthood when he left the Church. Deeply traditioned as he was, he has never been able to get it out of his soul, nor does he want to. But with its form and structure, the institution can no longer be the vehicle by which he can express the spirituality of his life. As I thought about his autobiographical expression, I began to think about mine. I have spoken for a long time about being in the springtime of my senility, but I have spoken about it so long that I suppose I should confess that I am well into the summer of it now. So rather than trying to remember these things, I decided to make a list. I identified eight transformations in my own pilgrimage, my own experience, and I share them with you, not because you are so interested in mine, but because as I do this, perhaps I can do for you what Thomas Moore did for me—cause you to think, “Where have I been? Where have I moved? Where have I come to and where am I going?” Well, this is my story; this is my list. © 2013 Kaufman Interfaith Institute and Grand Valley State University   �Dropping the Salvation Fantasy Richard A. Rhem Page 2   I have come from a conservative orthodoxy to a liberal openness. I have moved from a supernatural theism to a religious naturalism. I have moved from religion as verifiable truth to religion as experience of the sacred dimension of all reality. I have moved from religion’s dogma to religion as poetry, from religion as institution to religion as community, from religion as consisting of absolute truth to religion as emerging experience, from Christianity as exclusive to Christianity as one magnificent window opening on the holy and the sacred. And finally, I have moved from religion as salvation from damnation to religion as celebration of life. That is quite a journey. I have made a slight course adjustment, some might say 180 degrees, and I would have to agree. Most people who have gone through that kind of transformation, most Christian leaders or religious leaders, I should say, have simply left the institution. They have left the institution probably as an expression of honesty and their own integrity, no longer able to profess, to affirm the institution’s forms and structure and creedal statements. They simply have left the institution as it was. And, of course, there are others who have been invited to leave the institution because their views were judged to be heretical. I have been very fortunate, and I think my experience has been a rather rare experience, in that I have been able to continue the spiritual quest, to continue to wrestle and struggle with the faith within a community because you have joined with me. You have gone with me on this journey, some of you kicking and screaming all the way. Some of you were relieved because you were already there before I was. And some of you, frankly, were just sort of watching from the sidelines, not really engaged. Whatever the case, I have had the rare privilege of being out of the institution, but not out of a community that is a continuing spiritual community on a journey, on a spiritual quest. Thank God for that, because I’d starve otherwise. I am of no practical good for anything else. But more than that, it is the passion of my life to create a community for that narrow niche of people who have gone through the same kind of transformation that I have and have doggedly refused just to throw in the towel and to give up on the spiritual life. And so, it is with a great deal of gratitude that I recognize, having gone through such a transformation, that there still is a community in which we can engage together on the spiritual quest with a freedom to re-imagine religion and to bring our understanding of religion more into conformity with our general human experience. This is a wonderful time to be doing this, because we are in a time between the times. Maybe that is always true to some extent, but it certainly is true in this period of history in which we are living. This period has been going on for some © 2013 Kaufman Interfaith Institute and Grand Valley State University �Dropping the Salvation Fantasy Richard A. Rhem Page 3   time. I don’t know when something will gel out in the future, but we are in a time between the times. Those who study the philosophical development and religious theological development, the history of ideas, put the past into periods. They will speak of the ancient world and then perhaps the medieval world, and that medieval world included the Reformation world in which my particular brand of faith was honed. From there we have modernity, the last three and a half centuries, the modern period. We have spoken of that many times, characterizing it as the rise of critical thinking, the empirical method of verification spurring the development of all the natural sciences. It included the nineteenth century with the rise of historical consciousness and the sense of everything developing, the whole evolutionary cosmic emerging drama. And modernity presented a tremendous challenge to the old orthodoxy, to the age of faith, so that we are now at a time between the times. Modernity has been around long enough. Today there are those who speak of post-modernity, but that’s a story I won’t get into. Let me simply say that modernity has been around long enough so that its challenge has produced a reaction in our world today, a reaction we speak of as Fundamentalism. Fundamentalism is a reaction to the threat to religious forms and structures and creedal statements that is brought on by critical rationality and by scientific discovery of the nature of reality, of historical development, and so on. The Fundamentalist is one who reacts against that because he or she feels threatened, because a religious community is really a cultural, linguistic community. We have our own language, our own vocabulary, our own forms, our own structures, and our own rituals. As long as we operate in that little circle, we are comfortable. It triggers meaning for us. Baptism, the Lord’s Supper, the scripture readings, the prayers and hymns, all trigger meaning. A certain vocabulary is used, a certain phraseology, and that community is comfortable with it. Now when you begin to analyze all of this, take it apart, it becomes scary. Our meaning and our life are tied up in that cultural linguistic complex of things. When that begins to be threatened, the Fundamentalist is born. (Someone has defined the Fundamentalist as one who reiterates yesterday’s answers to today’s questions.) Religious experience becomes more and more disconnected from everyday experience, because out in the world of business, the world of industry, the world of the arts, philosophy, or education, life goes on. New knowledge brings new methods, new breakthroughs, new technologies, and we enter into that whether we are Fundamentalists or not. Now if I am a Fundamentalist I fly in jets, access the Internet, and invest in stocks and bonds. There is no way my religious community and commitments are going to keep me from being part of the broader cultural scene. But my religious experience, in that case, becomes more and more disconnected from the broader world; it becomes a compartment of my life rather than watering the whole flow of my life. And so the Fundamentalist reaction is a recognition that we are in a © 2013 Kaufman Interfaith Institute and Grand Valley State University �Dropping the Salvation Fantasy Richard A. Rhem Page 4   time between the times; the old is dying, and the new is too frightening to consider. I did my devotions yesterday with the Grand Rapids Press as I always do on Saturday morning, in order to find some fodder for my sermon or something to get excited or angry about, and I’m usually successful. I am thinking about all of this and then I read this big article about how the mainline denominations, all of them, have commissioned a survey about how to grow again. This is really a survey about how to survive, because they all know they are dying, having all experienced significant membership loss. I could have told them what they found out with a lot less cost. The survey revealed that churches need leaders who are innovative and creative and who are persistent in their purpose. They decided they can no longer build churches simply for “waspy” folks like us. They have to go after racial groups, ethnic and minority groups, and so forth. Well, I wonder why, when there are still enough waspy folks around. The crisis is that they are asking the wrong question. Why are people dropping out? Why are there thousands fewer church members today than there were ten years ago? Is the issue Church survival? Is it to try to figure out how you can hold on, hang on? Or ought the institutional forms be so open, flexible, fluid and free that they can shape themselves around our changing lives? On the back page of the same article was a story about the Missouri Synod Lutheran pastor who participated in Rudy Guiliani’s request to have a prayer service in Yankee Stadium after September 11. Do you remember the story? Yankee Stadium was full and there was a Christian, a Jew, a Muslim and a Hindu, and they had a service in which they sang “God Bless America” and prayers were offered for the nation. The Lutheran pastor who participated as a Christian is about to be ousted from the Missouri Synod Lutheran Church because his participation in that service might have given the impression that there are other gods or other ways to God. That kind of thing is really atrocious, isn’t it? If you are thoughtful, if you are sensitive at all, you would say such an institution really deserves to die because it is mindful of its own life, its own particularity with a kind of absolutist exclusivism that a thoughtful, sensitive, intelligent person could not honestly affirm in our world, in our day. The old institutional forms are dying. We are in a time between the times when the old is dying. I don’t know how long it will take. Maybe there will be another blush of triumph and another hundred years or so, but the old institutional forms are dying. The other reaction to the whole movement of modernity is one of modern atheism or agnosticism or just simply the writing off of the spiritual life as though © 2013 Kaufman Interfaith Institute and Grand Valley State University �Dropping the Salvation Fantasy Richard A. Rhem Page 5   one was an animal. The extreme expression of that is nihilism, that there is no meaning, nothing means anything. The nihilist would simply say that this whole cosmic drama is just a chance accident unwinding who knows where, and certainly with no purpose, with no meaning whatsoever. And then there are hordes of our contemporaries who, without consciously saying, “I am a nihilist,” are living a nihilist existence, barren of any kind of transcendent dimension in their life. T.S. Eliot wrote a poem, “The Waste Land,” his poetic commentary on modernity, in which he speaks about the great Western religious symbols as a “heap of broken images.” That’s where it is for a lot of people. With the eruption of critical thinking and the scientific method and the whole rise of modernity, the tragedy was that religious people were threatened and so they fought it. Many in the scientific community insisted that what they were dealing with was all there was, and there was a great deal of hubris on that side. And so many who were thoughtful and intelligent, simply dropped out. In the West, the intellectual elite left institutional religion, although they have continued in some kind of personal spiritual pilgrimage. We are in the time between the times when on the one hand there is a shrill Fundamentalism that is afraid because it is losing its grip, and on the other a barren spirituality that lives just a little bit above an animal existence. So it is a wonderful time to be thinking about this. Where do we go? Well, I suggest in the title that we drop the salvation fantasy. Just drop the salvation fantasy. What do I mean by the salvation fantasy? I mean that God is a creator who created humankind perfectly, that humankind was tested and failed the test, came under the curse of God’s wrath and stands in threat of eternal damnation. Then God provided in Jesus Christ the atoning death, taking our sin and guilt, therefore offering forgiveness for those who repent and believe, assuring them of heaven. That is the story; that is the myth. I don’t care whether you take the lilting liturgy of the Anglican community or the passionate address of evangelist Billy Graham or the rumblings of television evangelist Jerry Falwell. Down deep that is the story. That is the myth. That is what is being talked about. It may be talked about in sophisticated tones or it may be talked about in down and dirty, blunt language. I am suggesting that we ought simply to give it up. Give up the idea that God created a creature, put it to the test, and then failing the test, will damn it unless there is repentance and acceptance of Christ’s atoning death. That picture of God makes God a monster and the picture of humankind is degrading. We are not God-damned creatures. We are animals emerging out of the jungle with all of the survival instincts clinging to us. But we are something more. Something within us lifts up our eyes and lifts up our hearts and beckons us beyond where we are. © 2013 Kaufman Interfaith Institute and Grand Valley State University �Dropping the Salvation Fantasy Richard A. Rhem Page 6   Something tells us that what we see is not all there is. We are magnificent creatures. Are we lost? O, my God, we’re lost. Of course we are lost. We are trying to find our way. That is really what the whole religious quest is all about, the spiritual quest; trying to find our way. Who are we, after all? It is not as though God is angry with us, alienated from us. We’re just simply lost. Salvation? Of course. That word has its root in salve, meaning “healing”. Do we need salvation? Of course we need salvation. We are a blind and lost people, barren in our spiritual life and confused and disoriented. Do we need help? Dear God, we need help. But that is exactly what the invitation is from the God who would never abandon us, the God who embraces us, the God who calls us into a web of meaning. God is not “out there” somewhere, but that sacred and holy dimension which is in us and beyond us, which binds us together in a web of meaning and relationship. You might be surprised that a sermon on dropping the salvation fantasy should have in its text the words “born again.” But I think of old Nicodemus. I suppose that the author of the fourth Gospel was trying to bring Nicodemus to the attention of the Jews who were trying to continue in Judaism without following Jesus: “Look, one of your own leaders followed Jesus. He is a model, an example for all of you.” Old Nicodemus, a rabbi, a member of the Sanhedrin, a leader of the Jewish people, a representative of the best of Judaism, the best of Israel, came to Jesus one night to say, “What in the world is going on? Who are you? Who am I? What’s up?” And Jesus said, “You have to be born again.” Or born from above, or born spiritually. It is not so different from what I’ve experienced. I’ve been “born again.” I’ve seen things that I looked at forever and never saw before. I’ve had fresh spiritual insight, was able to move out of the cramped and crimped straitjacket of original orthodoxy that claimed to be the exclusive truth and into the spacious grace of inquiry, of openness, and freedom. Religion needs to be re-imagined so that one like Nicodemus who was deeply rooted in the establishment could come and be confounded by the statement that he had to be born again. Born again not as Jimmy Carter popularized it, not as the television evangelists harangue us about it, but born again with eyes to see and ears to hear, with a fresh awareness of new openness, and with a hunger and a thirst and an ongoing spiritual quest that is never done, but always inviting us to something more and something beautiful. Did you hear that marvelous statement of Psalm 131? “O Lord, my heart is not lifted up, my eyes are not raised too high. I do not occupy myself with things too great and too marvelous for me, but I have calmed and quieted my soul like a weaned child with its mother.” There is a certain humility and rest and trust and peace, knowing that we are woven together in the bundle of life which consists of © 2013 Kaufman Interfaith Institute and Grand Valley State University �Dropping the Salvation Fantasy Richard A. Rhem Page 7   beautiful relationships and deep and profound meaning that causes us to see the wonder and the miracle, the glory and the joy of life, which is a gift full of grace. Last evening I sat on the bluff and watched the sunset and in that magnificent western sky illumined by the globe, the sun poured its radiance across the waters and there was a path of yellow gold. Then I went up into the loft and continued to work as the evening sky emerged. When I looked out the window later, I saw the silver crescent of a moon next to the evening star and noticed on the lake that the yellow gold path had become a silver path of moonlight, and I said, “O, my God.” And it is enough. © 2013 Kaufman Interfaith Institute and Grand Valley State University � Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Richard A. Rhem Collection Description An account of the resource Text and sound recordings of the sermons, prayers, services, and articles of Richard Rhem, pastor emeritus of Christ Community Church in Spring Lake, Michigan, where he served for 37 years. Starting in the mid 1980's, Rhem began to question some of the traditional Christian dogma that he had been espousing from the pulpit. 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Merrill papers (RHC-222) Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource In Copyright Type The nature or genre of the resource Image Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource image/jpg Language A language of the resource eng Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Merrill, Robert H., 1881-1955 Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available Grand Valley State University. University Libraries. Lemmen Library and Archives https://digitalcollections.library.gvsu.edu/files/original/a141f54c12c5107498d474b470894a31.jpg 52615ca7ebe97dc148725bba58600f1f Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Grand Valley State University Photographs Subject The topic of the resource Aerial photographs Universities and colleges Michigan Grand Rapids (Mich.) Allendale (Mich.) Building Facilities Dormitories Students Events 1960s 1970s 1980s 1990s 2000s Description An account of the resource People, places, and events of Grand Valley State University from its founding in 1960 as a 4-year college in western Michigan. Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource News & Information Services. University Communications Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived <a href="https://gvsu.lyrasistechnology.org/repositories/2/resources/41">News &amp; Information Services. University Photographs. (GV012-01)</a> Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available Grand Valley State University. University Libraries. Special Collections & University Archives. Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 2017-03-03 Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource <a href="http://rightsstatements.org/page/InC-NC/1.0/?language=en">In Copyright - Non-Commercial Use Permitted</a> Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource image/jpg Language A language of the resource eng Type The nature or genre of the resource image Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context GV012-01 Coverage The spatial or temporal topic of the resource, the spatial applicability of the resource, or the jurisdiction under which the resource is relevant 1960s-2000s Still Image A static visual representation. Examples include paintings, drawings, graphic designs, plans and maps. Recommended best practice is to assign the type Text to images of textual materials. Local Subject Subject headings specific to a particular image collection 1980s Source <a href="https://gvsu.lyrasistechnology.org/repositories/2/resources/41">University photographs, GV012-01</a> Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context GV012-01_UAPhotos_001193 Title A name given to the resource Drum major conducting on the field Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Grand Valley State University Description An account of the resource Marching Band, female drum major conducting from an on-field podium. Subject The topic of the resource Grand Valley State University Grand Valley State College Michigan Allendale (Mich.) Marching bands Drum majors Music ensembles Language A language of the resource eng Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource <a href="http://rightsstatements.org/page/InC-NC/1.0/?language=en">In Copyright - Non-Commercial Use Permitted</a> Type The nature or genre of the resource Image Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource image/jpeg Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available Grand Valley State University. University Libraries. Lemmen Library and Archives black and white photo https://digitalcollections.library.gvsu.edu/files/original/7979499f4e8d026b5cf9a69db7a2fc20.jpg 97bf5aca1bead2b68e372168fc9823a6 Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Robert H. Merrill photographs Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Merrill, Robert H., 1881-1955 Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 1909/1950 Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Robert H. Merrill papers (RHC-222) Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource In Copyright Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context RHC-222 Description An account of the resource Photographs, negatives, and lantern slides digitized from the papers of engineer and archaeologist Robert H. Merrill. A Grand Rapids native, Merrill held an accomplished career as a civil engineer. He founded the company Spooner & Merrill, which held offices in Grand Rapids and Chicago. From 1919-1921, Merrill lived in China, working as Assistant Principal Engineer on a reconstruction of the Grand Canal - the oldest and longest canal system in the world. Merrill became fascinated by archaeology, and among other projects, he traveled to the Uxmal Pyramids in Yucatan, Mexico, with a research expedition from Tulane University. Merrill's photo collection includes images of his travels and projects, friends and family. Still Image A static visual representation. Examples include paintings, drawings, graphic designs, plans and maps. Recommended best practice is to assign the type Text to images of textual materials. Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context Merrill_NE_51_1917_010 Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 1917-07-21 Title A name given to the resource Drumlin 1380 looking northwest Description An account of the resource Black and white photograph of a hilly countryside of fields intersected by lines of trees in Otsego County, New York. Subject The topic of the resource Otsego County (N.Y.) New York Landscapes Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Robert H. Merrill papers (RHC-222) Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource In Copyright Type The nature or genre of the resource Image Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource image/jpg Language A language of the resource eng Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Merrill, Robert H., 1881-1955 Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available Grand Valley State University. University Libraries. Lemmen Library and Archives https://digitalcollections.library.gvsu.edu/files/original/135024a195e8ebc38f901378dadc7cc9.jpg 3549cdaccb23b9748db954338d91c3e2 Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Robert H. Merrill photographs Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Merrill, Robert H., 1881-1955 Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 1909/1950 Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Robert H. Merrill papers (RHC-222) Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource In Copyright Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context RHC-222 Description An account of the resource Photographs, negatives, and lantern slides digitized from the papers of engineer and archaeologist Robert H. Merrill. A Grand Rapids native, Merrill held an accomplished career as a civil engineer. He founded the company Spooner & Merrill, which held offices in Grand Rapids and Chicago. From 1919-1921, Merrill lived in China, working as Assistant Principal Engineer on a reconstruction of the Grand Canal - the oldest and longest canal system in the world. Merrill became fascinated by archaeology, and among other projects, he traveled to the Uxmal Pyramids in Yucatan, Mexico, with a research expedition from Tulane University. Merrill's photo collection includes images of his travels and projects, friends and family. Still Image A static visual representation. Examples include paintings, drawings, graphic designs, plans and maps. Recommended best practice is to assign the type Text to images of textual materials. Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context Merrill_NE_51_1917_009 Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 1917-07-20 Title A name given to the resource Drumlin 1480 looking south 15 degrees west Description An account of the resource Black and white photograph of hilly countryside in Otsego County, New York, with a farmhouse and barn in the distance. Subject The topic of the resource Otsego County (N.Y.) New York Landscapes Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Robert H. Merrill papers (RHC-222) Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource In Copyright Type The nature or genre of the resource Image Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource image/jpg Language A language of the resource eng Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Merrill, Robert H., 1881-1955 Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available Grand Valley State University. University Libraries. Lemmen Library and Archives https://digitalcollections.library.gvsu.edu/files/original/148e3001228105e2563fc2a0d7c4cab6.jpg ea52fda6276e9930e2fd320edceb9628 Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Robert H. Merrill photographs Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Merrill, Robert H., 1881-1955 Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 1909/1950 Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Robert H. Merrill papers (RHC-222) Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource In Copyright Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context RHC-222 Description An account of the resource Photographs, negatives, and lantern slides digitized from the papers of engineer and archaeologist Robert H. Merrill. A Grand Rapids native, Merrill held an accomplished career as a civil engineer. He founded the company Spooner & Merrill, which held offices in Grand Rapids and Chicago. From 1919-1921, Merrill lived in China, working as Assistant Principal Engineer on a reconstruction of the Grand Canal - the oldest and longest canal system in the world. Merrill became fascinated by archaeology, and among other projects, he traveled to the Uxmal Pyramids in Yucatan, Mexico, with a research expedition from Tulane University. Merrill's photo collection includes images of his travels and projects, friends and family. Still Image A static visual representation. Examples include paintings, drawings, graphic designs, plans and maps. Recommended best practice is to assign the type Text to images of textual materials. Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context Merrill_NE_52_1917_004 Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 1917-07-21 Title A name given to the resource Drumlin 1600 looking north 45 degrees west Description An account of the resource Black and white photograph of a man standing atop a drumlin, or hill formed of rock debris. Likely taken near Clinton, New York. Subject The topic of the resource Clinton (N.Y.) New York Geology Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Robert H. Merrill papers (RHC-222) Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource In Copyright Type The nature or genre of the resource Image Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource image/jpg Language A language of the resource eng Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Merrill, Robert H., 1881-1955 Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available Grand Valley State University. University Libraries. Lemmen Library and Archives https://digitalcollections.library.gvsu.edu/files/original/360c930452a405956cf22c1d560e101f.pdf 0f8755c54b322d5e58672e37ca7ba44d PDF Text Text C &> GRANDYALLEY STATElJNIVERSITY WOMEN'S CENTER TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 22, 2011 / 3 PM/ GRAND RIVER ROOM This interactive, multimedia discussion analyzes the different associations, factors, and risks around drunkorexia. This term relates to how individuals will skip meals in order save calories from what they will intake binge drinking. This dangerous fusion of alcohol abuse, eating disorders, and poor nutritional health will be addressed, as well as how the media had played a role in the creation and perpetuation of drunkorexia. [TBl llQ_Qj Approved FOR MORE INFORMATION CONTACT THE WOMEN'S CENTER/ WOMENCTR@GVSU.EDU / 616-331-2748 CO-SPONSORED BY: COLLEGE OF LIBERAL ARTS AND SCIENCES/ COUNSELING AND CAREER DEVELOPMENT/ INCLUSION AND EQUITY DIVISION/ OFFICE OF MULTICULTURAL AFFAIRS/ MOVEMENT SCIENCE/ WOMEN AND GENDER STUDIES � Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource GVSU Sexuality and Gender Flyers Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource The Rainbow Resource Center Women and Gender Studies Department Women's Commission Gayle R. Davis Center for Women and Gender Equity Description An account of the resource Digitized posters, flyers, event notices, and other materials relating to gender expression and sexuality at Grand Valley State University, with materials spanning from 1974 to 2019. Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 1974/2019 Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Digitized from collections at the Rainbow Resource Center (formerly the Milton E. Ford LGBT Resource Center), Women and Gender Studies Department, Women's Commission, and Gayle R. Davis Center for Women and Gender Equity. Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource In Copyright Subject The topic of the resource Gender identity Gender expression Sexual orientation Women's studies Queer theory Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available Grand Valley State University. University Libraries. Special Collections and University Archives. Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context DC-09 Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource application/pdf Type The nature or genre of the resource Text Language A language of the resource eng Text A resource consisting primarily of words for reading. Examples include books, letters, dissertations, poems, newspapers, articles, archives of mailing lists. Note that facsimiles or images of texts are still of the genre Text. Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context DC-09_SGF_2011_Drunkorexia.pdf Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Women's Center Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 2011-02-22 Title A name given to the resource Drunkorexia Description An account of the resource Flyer detailing an interactive event to spread awareness of drunkorexia. Contributor An entity responsible for making contributions to the resource College of Liberal Arts and Sciences, Counseling and Career Development, Inclusion and Equity Division, Office of Multicultural Affairs, Movement Science, Women and Gender Studies Subject The topic of the resource Community centers Anorexia Binge drinking Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Women's Center Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource <a href="http://rightsstatements.org/vocab/InC/1.0/">In Copyright</a> Type The nature or genre of the resource Text Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource application/pdf Language A language of the resource eng Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available Grand Valley State University. University Libraries. Lemmen Library and Archives https://digitalcollections.library.gvsu.edu/files/original/d1f416daac746c179b1702f3585c8d5a.mp4 17ac933f1f79a3cf3bc0e550132208c5 https://digitalcollections.library.gvsu.edu/files/original/700bc46d2af5516d7a8c1a2bc900f296.pdf ed209d6f13f716f7f467ec5ec62a06e8 PDF Text Text Grand Valley State University Veterans History Project Richard Drury Vietnam War Interview Length: (01:25:22:00) Pre-enlistment / Training (00:00:13:00)  Drury was born on Sept. 13, 1950 in Kalamazoo, Michigan, although he grew up and went to school in nearby Portage, Michigan (00:00:13:00) o While Drury was growing up, his father worked at two jobs, as a carpenter and then as a bar owner in Portage (00:00:36:00) o While he was in high school, Drury did have some thoughts about going to college but once he was out of high school, Drury had not applied to any colleges, so he was unable to get a deferment on his draft notice (00:00:50:00)  Drury was eighteen years old when he received his draft notice and because he had been figuring he would eventually receive a draft notice, the notice did not surprise him once if finally did come (00:01:12:00) o Drury family had a military background, with his father and uncles having served in World War II, so Drury felt it was his obligation to serve (00:01:25:00) o As well, Drury had two younger brothers and he figured, being the oldest, if he served, then his brothers would not have to (00:01:36:00)  Drury knew a little bit about the war before he enlisted because his best friend’s brother had been killed in Vietnam; after his brother’s death, the friend became extremely interested in learning about the war and just by being around the friend, Drury picked up different pieces of information (00:02:01:00) o As well, Drury also picked up information just by watching the news on the television (00:02:18:00)  Drury went through his draft physical once he went to the draft board in Detroit and officially enlisted in the military (00:02:37:00) o During the physical, Drury remembers standing in a room with a group of recruits when the Marine Corps recruiters came in and said they needed six recruits; the recruiters then went through the group and picked out six men (00:02:49:00) o None of the men knew that the Marine Corps drafted men, so the six who were chosen left the room wide-eyed (00:03:11:00)  For Drury, it never came into his mind to try and enlist in the Marine Corps; had he been one of the six who were chosen, he would not have had a problem with it (00:03:36:00) o During the physical, Drury saw other recruits try various things to get out of serving, such as faking a limp or coming up with their eyes crossed; for some of the men, their tricks actually worked (00:04:01:00)  After the physicals were over, Drury and the other men went home, where the military sent them a letter telling the men the date they had to report back (00:04:26:00)  Once his time was up, Drury received orders sending him to Fort Knox, Kentucky for his basic training (00:04:35:00) � o When they first arrived, Drury and the other recruits were scared to death by the drill sergeants; the recruits learned very quickly to keep their mouths shut and do what they were told because if they did not, others would be punished for their mistakes, which none of them wanted (00:04:57:00) o When they arrived, the recruits did a series of tests to determine their individual IQ as well as their marksmanship and endurance (00:05:29:00) o A lot of the recruits Drury was training with were from the Southern and Appalachian states and those men were often the hardest to keep on the base; a lot of those men went AWOL and went home, with the Army having to go out and pick them up (00:05:48:00)  For the most part, those recruits had a tougher time adjusting to life in the military; when they said they wanted to go home, they meant that the wanted to go home (00:06:11:00)  A lot of the recruits were used to doing things on their own time, when they wanted to do them and it took a long time to get used to living in the regimented lifestyle of the Army (00:06:32:00) o Drury was skinny when he first enlisted, weighing maybe 155lbs (00:06:49:00)  Once he enlisted, Drury rapidly adapted to life in the military and almost embraced it; being in a regimented lifestyle fit nicely into the type of person that Drury was as a civilian (00:07:01:00) o At the beginning of basic training, the drill sergeants were tough on the recruits; however, once it was more towards the end of the training, the drill sergeants engaged the recruits more in conversation (00:07:23:00)  There was one drill sergeant who was extremely tough on the recruits but at the end of the basic training, he said that he would now show the recruits why he was so tough (00:07:36:00)  The drill sergeant then took his shirt off and on his chest was a bullet scar; the drill sergeant said that was what reality was going to be like for the majority of the recruits and he wanted them to understand why he had been so tough on them (00:07:46:00)  The drill sergeant’s speech opened Drury’s eyes and it was his first gut check about what was going to come (00:08:02:00) After basic training, Drury signed up for the Airborne and was sent to Airborne Infantry Training at Fort Gordon, Georgia (00:08:20:00) o While at Fort Gordon, Drury and the other Airborne volunteers ran and ran and ran, until they were in good enough physical shape (00:08:31:00) o Although Drury and the other men did not actually jump out of airplanes at Fort Gordon, they still went through the entire rigging process and also learned how to rappel using rappelling towers (00:08:41:00) o Drury believes that basic training and AIT (Advanced Individual Training) both lasted for eight weeks (00:09:02:00) o During the AIT at Fort Gordon, Drury and the other men also trained using helicopters (00:09:07:00)  For the most part, the men would hop onto the helicopter, which would then fly them around; although the training was not exactly like what they �   would experience in Vietnam, it still gave the men a taste of working with helicopters (00:09:12:00)  The men also trained in how to properly exit from the helicopter but again, the training was not intense (00:09:40:00) o The instructors at Fort Gordon did not make much of an effort to prepare the men for Vietnam (00:09:54:00)  The men did not have to go through jungle school or survival training (00:09:57:00)  Instead, in what training the men did receive, they learned how to pick specific objects out of the brush, how to properly march in the field, etc.; for the most part, the training was not individually geared with an emphasis placed on working in the jungle (00:10:04:00)  The men did receive training about the enemy booby-traps; they learned how to avoid the punji sticks and to not pick up anything that looked out of place in the environment (00:10:30:00) o Drury believes most of the instructors who trained the men had already served time in Vietnam (00:10:44:00) o While at Fort Gordon, Drury was able to go off base but he did not go off too often (00:10:52:00) After he finished the eight weeks of AIT at Fort Gordon, Drury’s next stop would be in Vietnam; he was originally planning to go through traditional airborne training but he did not think it would be beneficial, given that Airborne Forces already in Vietnam were not jumping out of airplanes (00:11:13:00) o There was no sense in going through jump school at that point; Drury knew that if he stayed in the Army, there would be plenty of time for him to do jump school once his tour in Vietnam was over (00:11:35:00) o When he finished AIT, Drury had a strong suspicion about where he would be going, Vietnam, and he decided not to waste any time going over (00:11:42:00) o At AIT was over, the Army allowed Drury and the other men to go home on a thirty-day leave (00:11:50:00) When the thirty-day leave was over, Drury had to report to a base in California to deploy over to Vietnam (00:12:03:00) o Once Drury was in California, he went through the process of getting set up to be put on a plane and flown to Vietnam (00:12:30:00) o From California, Drury’s flight first went to Hawaii, although the men aboard the airplane were not allowed to get off; from Hawaii, the airplane stopped on Wake Island before arriving in Vietnam (00:12:41:00) Drury arrived in Vietnam at the Bien Hoa Air Force Base (00:13:35:00) Vietnam Deployment(00:13:44:00)  Even before he took his first step off the plane, the heat and humidity, as well as the smell, hit Drury in the face like a ton of bricks (00:13:44:00) o Coming from Michigan, that type of heat and humidity was something totally foreign to Drury (00:13:56:00) o Drury was sweating before he even took his first step onto the ladder leading off the airplane (00:14:03:00) �     Once they were off the airplane, Drury and the other soldiers went to a center where they went through courses educating them about certain things as well as received their new unit assignments (00:14:13:00) o From what Drury can remember, the orientation courses were roughly a week to two weeks in length (00:14:29:00) o Before Drury left the base for his new unit, he does not recall the base every coming under enemy mortar or rocket fire (00:15:03:00) o Some of the soldiers on the base were going home soon and Drury could see the difference in the faces from those soldiers who had just arrived, such as himself, and those soldiers who had been in country for awhile (00:15:10:00) Because he had volunteered for airborne training, Drury figured he would end up with an airborne unit somewhere in the country (00:15:27:00) From Bien Hoa, Drury and some other soldiers flew aboard a C-130 cargo transport to the airport at Phu Bai; from Phu Bai, Drury hopped aboard a truck that took him out to Camp Evans (00:15:51:00) o Drury did not receive any sort of reception at Camp Evans; nobody said “hi” or anything (00:16:13:00) o Once at Camp Evans, Drury was assigned to Delta Company, 1st (Battalion) of the 506th (Infantry Regiment), 101st Airborne Division (00:16:17:00)  After asking enough people around the camp, Drury finally found where the company’s headquarters was located, so he walked into the headquarters and reported (00:16:23:00)  After he reported in, Drury received a bunk assignment, as well as all his equipment; once Drury had his equipment, he began packing his rucksack with food, water, and everything he needed to take out (00:16:44:00) o Delta Company was in the field when Drury arrived at Camp Evans (00:17:23:00) When the day came for Drury to fly out to the company, someone told him they had ice cream he was to take to the company (00:17:26:00) o Drury hopped on a helicopter with a couple of other newly-arrived soldiers and sitting in his lap was the ice cream (00:17:37:00) o It did not take too long to reach the company by helicopter and when the helicopter landed, Drury got off, slung his rifle on his shoulder, hefted the ice cream and started running to where some soldiers were standing (00:17:44:00)  As he ran over to the soldiers, Drury noticed that some wounded soldiers were being loaded onto the helicopter, which was his first wake-up call about being in Vietnam (00:18:01:00) o Drury walked up to the soldiers and was in the process of introducing himself when one of the soldiers jumped up and told Drury to shut his mouth and to whisper in the field (00:18:15:00)  Drury had only been in the field for two minutes but had already been chewed out and to boot, the ice cream was melting all over him; however, the soldiers were still thankful he brought the ice cream (00:18:31:00) o Drury arrived at the company around the end of March 1970 (00:18:44:00) Once Drury was with the company, a older soldier was assigned to work with him; the older soldier was armed with the M-79 grenade launcher, a thumper (00:19:02:00) �o Being a new guy, Drury received every rotten job there was, such as manning a listening post or walking point (00:19:20:00)  Drury walked point about two or three weeks after he joined the company because to walk point, it took some knowledge (00:19:37:00) o At the time Drury joined, the company was on an extended patrol, which meant during the night, the soldiers would sleep in the field (00:19:52:00) o One of the lasting impressions Drury has of when he first joined the company was the heat and how difficult it was to carry around 100lbs rucksacks; regardless of how much training a soldier had, it took time to get used to humping their way through a patrol (00:20:01:00)  It took Drury a couple of weeks just to learn how to hump during a patrol properly (00:20:17:00)  Over time, Drury learned what he needed to pack and what he did not need to pack for a patrol (00:20:31:00)  For the most part, although Drury wanted to bring as much fruit cocktail as possible because it was nutritious but also had liquid, it was heavy and he did not want to carry a lot of it (00:20:37:00)  The soldiers tried to pack as lightly as possible but still have enough supplies to last for a seven-day period, including seven days worth of water (00:21:05:00) o For the vast majority of the time, the company was operating jungle-covered mountains (00:21:23:00)  Although the soldiers worked at a company size within a given area, for the most part, the soldiers worked at the platoon size; very seldom did individual squads go out for an assignment, except to occasionally do ambushes (00:21:36:00)  While moving through the jungle, the soldiers tried to stay off trails as much as possible because they knew the enemy had often placed boobytraps on the trails (00:22:10:00)  However, in some areas, there was no other way to get by than by going on a trail (00:22:18:00)  At the times they would not use an existing trail, the soldiers had to make their own trail through the jungle; the lead men in the column would break through the brush and look for the easiest way possible (00:22:35:00)  Breaking a trail uphill was the worst; trying to cut through the jungle in 100 heat going uphill was tiring (00:22:57:00) o At night, the soldiers would dig foxholes and then alternate between sleeping and guard duty (00:23:10:00)  For example, if there were three soldiers to a foxhole, two would be sleeping and one would be on guard duty (00:23:19:00) o When Drury joined the company, the company’s contacts with the enemy were minor incidents; for Drury personally, it was quite awhile until he legitimately shot at an enemy soldiers (00:23:36:00)  Although the company did have contact with the enemy, most of those times, Drury was not physically involved in the fighting (00:23:46:00) �  o As the soldiers moved through the jungle, it was normally as a long, staggered out line; they tried to avoid grouping up but also tried to avoid making several redundant trails (00:23:55:00)  When moving, the soldiers normally tried to keep about 10’ of separation; any further and the soldiers risked losing contact (00:24:15:00) o Contact with the enemy might range from a single sniper attack or a booby-trap going off to finding an enemy base camp (00:24:27:00)  At night, the enemy might probe the company’s position, launching RPGs to see if the Americans would shoot back (00:24:38:00) o The situation of different parts of the company being engaged with the enemy continued until the company returned to Camp Evans (00:25:03:00) When Drury first joined Delta company, the company stayed in the field for about a month, from the end of March until the end of April, at which point the company returned to Camp Evans for a stand-down (00:25:22:00) o By the time the company returned to Camp Evans, Drury felt he had learned but still had a lot to learn; he felt he was starting to fit in with the rest of the soldiers, who were beginning to trust him (00:25:39:00) o Once back at Camp Evans, the soldiers were able to get clean clothes, take showers, and go grab a couple of beers; there was a small movie theater on the camp and the soldiers were able to go watch movies there (00:26:11:00)  At certain times, the soldiers were able to call home if they managed to get the right things in place (00:26:23:00)  If a soldier was religious, there were places where they could go speak with a chaplain (00:26:27:00)  Having hot food and not having the march through the jungle were the two biggest things for the soldiers once they were in the camp (00:26:34:00)  While back on the base, Drury did not personally see any of the other soldiers using drugs; however, he knew the drug use was happening because at different times, he could smell the drugs (00:26:49:00) o At most, a stand-down would last for a week, during which time the men resupplied, checked their ammunition, received new uniforms, etc. (00:27:05:00) Once the stand-down was over, the company began moving around to several different firebases in preparation for their next big operation, which was in May and involved a combat assault onto Firebase Maureen (00:28:10:00) o The assault on Maureen represented Drury’s hot LZ (landing zone) baptism because the company did a combat assault against the firebase (00:28:30:00)  Everything was different for the soldiers when going into a hot LZ; they needed to move quickly and Drury moved as fast as he possible could (00:28:44:00)  During the assault, the soldiers were being mortared, shot at by .51-caliber machine guns and tear-gassed (00:28:55:00) o Once Drury was off his helicopter, he made his way to a bunker, where someone told him to shoot; however, Drury could not see anything, so when he asked where, the soldier told him he did not care and just to shoot (00:29:04:00)  After awhile, the firebase did calm down (00:29:14:00) � o After the assault was over was the first time that Drury ever saw a dead enemy soldier; it was a pair of Chinese soldiers and a couple of the Airborne soldiers stuck a patch on the bodies and threw them off the side of the hill (00:29:19:00) o The whole company ended up spending the night on Maureen (00:29:55:00) o The American had already previously used Maureen as a firebase before but had abandoned it; the bunker Drury got into when he got of his helicopters was really the remains of a bunker from that first period (00:30:02:00) o During the first night, Drury was positioned on a listening post, which was pretty eerie (00:30:24:00)  During that night, Drury and the other soldiers who were in the listening post almost all agree that they heard some sort of enemy probing, although they did not see any enemy (00:30:35:00) o The following day, all the platoons went off Maureen in separate directions, which was when 2nd platoon ended up getting attacked pretty bad by the enemy; during the fighting, a soldier who had been with the platoon for only a couple of days ended up winning the Medal of Honor (00:30:59:00)  Drury’s platoon came back the next morning as fast as they could to try and reach 2nd platoon (00:31:49:00)  During the platoon’s movement around the firebase to reach 2nd platoon, the soldiers found a dead Chinese soldier; again, it was another wake up call for Drury as to what he was really facing in the field (00:31:56:00)  When the firefight with 2nd platoon started, Drury’s platoon was less the a klick away (00:32:57:00)  One of the other platoons in the company initially tried to work its way over to 2nd platoon but ended up being ambushed by the enemy themselves (00:33:13:00)  After the other platoon was ambushed, Drury’s platoon was ordered to halt, out of suspicion that they were being set up for an ambush as well (00:33:19:00)  Although his platoon was some distance away from the fight, Drury remembers being able to watch it and it broke his heart that he was not able to help the other soldiers (00:33:27:00)  Eventually, air and artillery strikes were called in, almost on top of 2nd platoon; however, the pilots and artillerymen had to be careful because 1st and 3rd platoons were also in the area and they did not want to be hit by an air or artillery strike (00:33:44:00) After the fighting at Maureen, Drury’s company briefly returned to Camp Evans for a stand-down before being sent to Firebase Kathryn for a month (00:34:27:00) o The company returned to Camp Evans to try to get back up to full company strength, something which never actually happened (00:34:51:00)  As well, because the company was always bringing in replacements, it was always heavy with new soldiers, which was not a good situation while working in the A Shau Valley (00:34:58:00) o Firebase Kathryn had artillery guns positioned on it to support soldiers in the field or other firebases (00:35:18:00) �   Although it was a nice firebase, it was close enough to the A Shau valley that it took its fair share of incoming enemy fire; mostly in the shape of mortars, although on occasion, an enemy soldier would sneak in close with an RPG, just to see what the soldiers would do (00:35:26:00)  At one point, Drury moved from one foxhole to another and during the night, there was a huge explosion; the soldiers thought the firebase was under attack but none came and the next morning, they found the bodies of the two soldiers from the foxhole in the concertina wire, with a wire leading back to the company’s Kit Carson scout (00:35:51:00)  Although the other soldiers wanted to kill the scout, the company commander would not let them (00:36:23:00)  The scout had been in a bunker behind the soldier’s position and there was a wire leading from the bunker to the foxhole, which indicated an explosive weapon (00:36:31:00)  After the incident, the scout was taken away because Drury believes had the scout stayed with the company, he and the other soldiers would have killed him (00:36:44:00) o For the month they were positioned on Kathryn, the soldiers worked to beef up the defenses of the firebase, such as digging new foxholes and checking the concertina wire, as well as going on patrols around the firebase (00:37:12:00)  As well, the soldiers practiced doing whatever practical things they could, such as cleaning their weapons (00:37:26:00)  Apart from Drury’s company, there were also artillerymen, mortarmen, and headquarters personnel also stationed on the firebase (00:37:40:00)  None of the platoons ever went on extended patrols away from Kathryn; all the patrols were close to the firebase and the soldiers were able to return to the firebase when the patrol ended instead of spending the night in the filed (00:38:07:00)  Operating off a firebase was nice because it meant the soldiers were able to eat hot meals and take showers (00:38:26:00) The company ended up finally leaving Catherine in the early part of June and proceeded to go on an extended patrol (00:38:49:00) o During the patrol, although the company did make contact with the enemy, Drury remembers it was never major contact; for the most part, the enemy contact was either harassment or the company finding and destroying a bunker (00:38:56:00) o At one point, the soldiers had to call in artillery and one of the rounds, 155mm, ended up being a short round, landed amongst the soldiers, and killed a couple of them, which was demoralize to the rest of the soldiers (00:39:14:00) After the company had left Catherine, an RTO in the platoon had left for whatever reason and Drury was given the assignment (00:39:44:00) o During basic training and AIT, Drury had some training with using a radio but once he was given the position in the field, the other RTOs in the platoon helped him understand what he needed to saw and how to properly say it (00:40:06:00) o As a squad RTO, Drury was able to communicate on the platoon- and companylevel radio nets (00:40:30:00) �  When he first became an RTO, Drury mostly talked on the platoon-level radio net and the platoon leader would relay the message to the company level (00:41:10:00)  The only times Drury talked on the company-level net was if he made a mistake; the company RTO was always listening to the platoon-level nets and if Drury made a mistake, the company RTO would call in and tell him (00:41:22:00) o Whenever his platoon went on a short patrol around a firebase, part of Drury’s job was to check-in at night with a sit-rep; during the sit-reps, instead of talking, Drury would just click the microphone to make a noise (00:41:37:00)  Two clicks meant the platoon was okay while one click meant something was amiss; if one click happened, the RTO would ask and if there was another single click, then the company knew something was going on and the platoon could not talk (00:41:52:00) o When the platoon or company would go out on a patrol, the soldiers were pretty good about noise and light discipline; however, it was difficult to make sure that one hundred men were quiet all of the time (00:42:15:00) o Once the company had left Catherine and gone out on the extended patrol, most of the time, the soldiers were humping their way through the jungle (00:43:27:00)  However, on some occasions when higher-ups wanted the company to check out a specific location, the company would fly in via helicopter and use an already existing LZ (00:43:31:00) o After the company had left Kathryn, Drury’s platoon ended up receiving a new platoon leader, a Lieutenant Thompson (00:43:51:00)  The lieutenant was a little bit of an oddball; for example, while working as lieutenant’s RTO, Drury noticed the lieutenant loved eating exotic seafood because all of the lieutenant’s care packages had some type of squid or sardine (00:43:55:00)  Nevertheless, the lieutenant was a great officer and he deeply cared for the well-being of his soldiers, almost to the point that the company commander thought the lieutenant was too close to the troops (00:44:16:00) o During that time period, Drury himself did not know what was happening regarding the fighting on nearby Firebase Ripcord (00:45:15:00)  At the time, Drury’s company was fighting on and around Hill 1000, which was a hill near Ripcord and the area around Hill 1000 was pretty active itself (00:45:23:00) Just before the company went onto Ripcord itself, Drury remembers one particular patrol where either the company or the platoon was giving orders to another unit (00:45:42:00) o On nearby hill was a firebase, Drury does not remember the name, and at the bottom of the hill was the largest concentration of enemy bunkers that Drury had ever seen (00:46:05:00)  Inside the bunker complex was the remains of a downed helicopter and all around, the soldiers could see the enemy's shoes and their personal belongings (00:46:24:00) �   The trails in the complex were so worn-down by the enemy that the soldiers could have driven cars up and down them (00:46:51:00) At a certain point, Drury’s company managed to make it all the way to the top of Hill 1000 (00:45:15:00) o Although Drury does not remember too much fighting as the company moved up the hill, there were still a lot bunkers and other positions that reminded the soldiers they were still in enemy territory (00:47:26:00) Eventually, the company was taken back to Camp Evans to prepare for their insertion around Ripcord itself (00:47:57:00) o Drury remembers the company commander, Captain Workman, going around and talking with the soldiers; although he never saw a lot of the captain, Drury still liked him (00:48:20:00) o For Drury personally, prior to going to Ripcord, he had only heard a little bit about what was happening at the firebase (00:48:51:00)  He does remembers the soldiers being told to take extra ammunition and being told to be ready for a big fight (00:49:08:00) Firebase Ripcord / End of Tour / Post-Military Life / Reflections (00:49:30:00)  The company finally inserted to the area around Ripcord on July 20th and Drury himself was aboard the very first helicopter going in (00:49:30:00) o Being the RTO, Drury had to call back to a major to report the situation and once the helicopter had landed and he had disembarked, Drury did call back and reported a cold LZ (00:49:39:00)  However, as Drury and Lieutenant Thompson looked around, they noticed wires running across the LZ and the remnants of bunkers, which did not feel right to them (00:49:52:00)  By about the third helicopter, the LZ was starting to come under .51caliber enemy machine gun fire from an adjacent hill (00:50:11:00) o Once the enemy .51 fire started, Drury called in a hot LZ and the entire process sped up; once so many soldiers had landed on the hill, the entire unit needed to deploy (00:50:15:00) o As the company deployed, Drury’s platoon went to the left while the 2nd and 3rd platoons went to the right and took out the enemy .51 (00:50:24:00)  Drury’s platoon headed towards a small knoll and as the platoon advanced, the soldiers took some fire but eventually made it to the top of the knoll (00:50:40:00)  At the top of the knoll, the soldiers saw that the enemy had been digging a large bunker complex (00:50:57:00) o After the platoon had settled in, a patrol was sent out but was subsequently hit by enemy forces and the soldiers were killed (00:51:06:00)  Another group went down, including several sergeants and Lieutenant Thompson, and that group was attacked as well; some of the sergeants and Lieutenant Thompson were wounded (00:51:21:00)  By the time the casualties from the two groups were accounted for, there were very few soldiers remaining in the platoon (00:51:30:00) �o It was getting close to dark and what soldiers remained in the platoon would not be able to defend the position at night (00:51:34:00)  The 2nd platoon went back to the LZ and set up a strobe light to help guide Drury and the other remaining soldiers in the platoon (00:51:46:00) o When the second group, including Lieutenant Thompson, had gone down the hill to assist the first group, Thompson left Drury behind to help manage the soldiers who remained on the knoll (00:52:17:00) o Following the attack on Lieutenant Thompson’s group, the sequence of events becomes foggy for Drury, not because he cannot remember them but because he has ready other accounts of what happened; what Drury remembers witnessing sometimes contradicts those other accounts (00:52:55:00) o Once the night finally came up, Captain Workman called over and told Drury’s platoon that they needed to come back (00:53:34:00)  As the platoon readied to move back to the company, the soldiers could hear the enemy soldiers moving in the bushes (00:53:40:00)  Nevertheless, the platoon successfully makes it back to the rest of the company (00:53:51:00)  After the platoon had rejoined the company, Drury remembers walking up to the headquarters personnel to ask for some additional ammunition for the soldiers in the platoon (00:53:53:00)  Drury remembers talking with the company medic and the medic saying that the captain had had a nervous breakdown because one of the soldiers in Drury’s platoon who had been a favorite of the captain’s was killed (00:54:11:00)  Drury could not confirm if what the medic said was true because he never saw the captain (00:55:28:00)  The ground where the company was positioned was so rocky that the soldiers could not dig in, so they were told just to spread out (00:54:38:00) o Drury remembers waking up the next day and bending over to tie his boots when he heard the sound of four mortars being fired; it was then that he realized it was going to be a bad day (00:54:47:00)  Drury has read differing reports as to how many mortar rounds the company took that day; some of the reports even claim the enemy launched 120mm mortars at them (00:55:04:00)  Once the mortar attacks started, everything happened so fast that it was almost a free-for-all (00:55:31:00)  At one point, the soldiers were told to go back to the LZ to be extracted but when that did not work, they were told to go back up the hill (00:55:36:00)  Then, they were told to go back down to the LZ but they were then told to go back up the hill to get a machine gun that had been left behind (00:55:43:00) o Although the overall battle was chaotic, Drury experienced only a narrow part of it; because he could not be around the entire hill, he did not know what exactly was happening on the other parts of the hill (00:55:56:00) �  Twenty feet from him might be a completely different situation than the one he was facing (00:56:03:00)  Some of the accounts of fighting portray the men as falling apart and being less than soldiers (00:56:35:00)  Although Drury admits that they did fall apart, the men were still soldiers; the men were still doing what they needed to do but when situations looked dire, things did get crazy (00:56:48:00) o Drury was eventually wounded in the elbow and his hearing was gone as well; a mortar round had impacted near Drury, which took out his hearing, and the round kicked up stones, which went into his elbow (00:57:05:00)  After being wounded, Drury moved down to the LZ, which was when he saw a soldier fall out of one of the helicopters that had been flying into the LZ (00:57:24:00)  Helicopters continued coming in and out of the LZ, which made Drury assume the company would eventually going to be combat evacuated off the hill (00:57:41:00) o Drury was soon placed aboard a helicopter but as the helicopter lifted off from the LZ, it was struck in the tail by an RPG; luckily, the round did not explode and stayed in the tail all the way back to Camp Evans (00:57:57:00)  Drury has some guilt about leaving the hill; although he was not functioning at 100%, he could have stayed, especially if he knew what was going to happen to the company (00:58:17:00)  Drury just assumed the company was going to be evacuated out, just like every other time that happened (00:58:33:00) o At some point, a second helicopter was shot down over the LZ, which forced the commanders to close the LZ until the following day (00:58:44:00) o Those soldiers who had made it off the LZ before it was closed, including Drury, were waiting for the rest of the soldiers to come in but they did not (00:59:06:00)  Once the rest of the company did come back in, some of the soldiers were mad at Drury and the other soldiers who had gotten off (00:59:18:00)  Drury found out that Captain Workman and several other soldiers had been killed during the night and the information devastated him; he felt that he should have been on the hill as well (00:59:30:00)  By the time Drury left the hill, almost all the lieutenants and a good portion of the sergeants in the company had been wounded or killed and those soldiers who evacuated off with Drury were just reacting to the situation (00:59:51:00) o While on the hill, Drury saw the company medic further up the hill and eventually, the medic said he could not take it any more and stood up; the hill was under mortar fire and the next mortar round landed near the medic and killed him instantly (01:00:11:00) Once Drury’s company returned to Camp Evans, there was just not that many soldiers left in the company who were field ready; Drury would venture that the company was down to less than thirty soldiers (01:01:09:00) �    o However, General Berry, the (acting) commander of the 101st Airborne flew up to Camp Evans and said although it was a terrible thing, the company had to go back into the field (01:01:23:00) o Although he is not positive, Drury believes that the company was sent to a firebase (01:01:37:00)  However, once at its new position, the company had to go through a whole new round of replacements, including a new company commander, allnew lieutenants and all-new sergeants (01:01:44:00) o Although it took a long time to get the new soldiers to the point they were combat ready, after Ripcord, there was not too much going on; the enemy did not want to make any more contact with the soldiers (01:01:57:00)  There were some sporadic firefights between other units and the enemy but for Drury’s company, the big battles were over (01:02:11:00) o The 101st Airborne did not believe in having combat troops waiting in the rear area; if forces were needed someplace, then soldiers were sent there (01:02:34:00) o The deafness from the impacting mortar round was only temporary for Drury, although he needs hearing aids today (01:02:49:00)  His elbow swelled up from the stones that the mortar had thrown up and it took a couple of weeks for the swelling to go down to the point that Drury could use the elbow every day (01:02:56:00) In December, the end of Drury’s tour was close and he was working as the company commander’s RTO when the battalion RTO positioned opened up (01:03:16:00) o The company commander asked if Drury would like the battalion RTO position and Drury said “yes”; in January 1971, Drury transferred up to be the battalion RTO stationed on Camp Evans (01:03:29:00) While Drury was still in the field with his company, the company often came under enemy sapper attacks; however, for the most part, those attacks were probing the soldiers’ position (01:03:57:00) o However, when the company was stationed on Firebase Maureen, there was a full-scale enemy sapper attack (01:04:05:00) o Apart from the sapper attacks, the enemy sometimes lobbed mortar rounds into the soldiers’ position, just to gauge how the soldiers would react (01:04:19:00) When a soldier first arrived in Vietnam, he was scared but over time, he became calm and just did his job; he did what he needed to do in order to stay alive (01:04:47:00) o However, once a solider became a short-timer, he began thinking about actually being able to survive and make it home (01:05:05:00) During Drury’s finally two months in Vietnam, he served as the battalion RTO on Camp Evans, running and checking the radios, doing sit-reps at night, etc.; it was easy work compared to what he had been doing (01:05:34:00) o For the most part, Drury got along well with the personnel who he interacted with at the battalion headquarters; he did not so much like dealing with the lieutenant colonels and colonels (01:06:14:00) o The one regret Drury has about serving at the battalion level was that he was no longer with his friends from the company; it was really hard to see his friends get on a helicopter and not go out with them (01:06:29:00) �       However, Drury was smart enough to know that if he got a rear job, he needed to stay in the rear (01:06:29:00) o Apart from the infantry stationed on Camp Evans, there were also artillerymen, pilots, MPs, support personnel, etc. (01:07:07:00)  What was odd was that the personnel who stayed on the base always looked extremely clean compared to the infantry (01:07:21:00) o While at the camp, Drury saw black soldiers trying to entice other black soldiers to break regulations, such as having longer hair or not dressing properly, just to see what would happen (01:08:27:00) At one point while Drury was still in the field, his platoon went into a cave and found a stack of brochures that the NVA had printed that read “Black brothers, why are you fighting? This is a white man’s war” (01:09:03:00) o Most of the time, the caves and bunkers that the soldiers found were empty; if the soldiers found a cave or bunker with supplies inside, it usually meant they had just forced the enemy out or the enemy would be coming back (01:09:35:00)  For the most part, unless the soldiers caught the enemy off-guard, the enemy policed up their supplies caches pretty well (01:09:48:00) While at Camp Evans, Drury was able to overhear talk of what was happening in other areas of the country (01:10:04:00) o For himself, Drury did not really have an impression of how the war was going; being in I Corps, way in the northern part of South Vietnam, he had no way of knowing what was happening in the southern part (01:10:33:00)  During his time in Vietnam, Drury genuinely thought the United States was winning; in his mind, there was no way anyone could stand up to the punishment the American forces were giving (01:11:03:00) At Camp Evans, there were South Vietnamese civilians working on the base, doing the soldiers’ laundry, cleaning the soldiers’ barracks, etc. (01:11:28:00) o In Drury’s mind, there were too many South Vietnamese working on the base and on occasion, they would find one counting off paces in-between buildings and he would be gone (01:11:42:00) Although the camp did come under mortar and rocket attacks, the rocket attacks were just 120mm rockets; the enemy would light them but had no way of controlling where they would go (01:11:57:00) o Although there were also times when enemy soldiers were caught trying to sneak onto the base, all in all, the enemy tended to avoid attacking a base as large as Camp Evans was (01:12:07:00) Drury was stuck in the mountains during the monsoon season; it was amazing to him to see how much and how hard it could rain (01:12:27:00) Some of the worst things in Vietnam were the snakes and biting insects; every morning, all the soldiers had to take their clothes off because leeches would attach themselves to the soldiers (01:12:34:00) o Drury figures that if someone went through the records, the person would find that an equal number, if not more, were taken out of the field because of jungle rot or falling of cliffs and breaking ankles, etc.; Drury figures his company lost just as many soldiers to those as they did to actual combat (01:12:58:00) �       Drury himself had jungle rot and one morning, it was the size of a pea; the next morning, it was the size of a quarter (01:13:40:00) Although everybody always tends to look at the negative aspects, there were also some good things and some funny things too (01:14:20:00) o One time, the men were climbing up a hill in the rain and they accidentally slipped, which caused them to slid over 100yrds down the hill (01:14:24:00) o Another time, the soldiers were climbing up a mountain when they reached a plateau; once he was on the plateau, Drury looked over and running off the side of the mountain was a small waterfall (01:14:40:00)  The scene was beautiful and Drury kept thinking how horrible it was that there was a war going on because the land itself was absolutely beautiful country (01:14:50:00) One time, Drury and some of the other soldiers went into the nearby city of Hue; however, they were used to being in the field and see all the people around put them out of their element (01:15:03:00) o Another time, the company was operating in the lowlands and although the men thought they had set up a good perimeter, the next day, there were around twenty Vietnamese kids trying to sell them ice and Coca-Colas (01:15:18:00) Drury finally finished his tour at the end of February (01:16:13:00) o As Drury’s tour ended, the military had started shortening the tours of all the personnel in-country in an effort to facilitate the beginning of the Vietnaminization process (01:16:20:00) o Once the tour ended, Drury went down to the Air Force base at Cam Ranh Bay to catch a flight back to the United States (01:17:01:00)  In order to board the flight home, Drury could not be carrying any sharp objects; his father had sent him a knife that Drury had wanted to keep but the knife went into the bin with all the other objects (01:17:08:00)  Once the airplane was airborne, everyone aboard was happy; however, it was also a long flight and it gave them a chance to reflect and think about their friends still in Vietnam (01:17:24:00) During his tour, the only contact Drury had with home was through letters; he tried calling once from Vietnam but was unsuccessful but did manage to call when he was on an R&R and talked for about three minutes (01:18:02:00) During his tour, Drury was able to go on two separate R&Rs, once to Taiwan and once to Bangkok, Thailand (01:18:20:00) o Getting on the plane to go back to Vietnam at the end of each R&R was not too hard for Drury because he knew that was the way it had to be (01:18:35:00) Drury’s flight from Vietnam landed at Fort Lewis, Washington (01:18:51:00) o After he got off the plane at Fort Lewis, Drury went to the Seattle-Tacoma International Airport for a flight to Chicago; however, there was a long lay-over and Drury spent a long time waiting in the terminal (01:18:58:00)  While in the airport terminal, Drury did not see any anti-war protestors but at the same time, nobody walked up and said thank you (01:19:22:00) o When Drury arrived in Chicago, he ran into an ex-Marine who saw Drury was carrying a duffle bag and offered to carry the bag for Drury (01:19:41:00) �     Although he was back in the United States, Drury still had some time remaining on his enlistment, so he was only going home on leave (01:20:04:00) o Once his leave was over, he reported to Fort Bragg, North Carolina and was put into a weapons company, which was just someplace to put him until his enlistment finally ran out (01:20:08:00) In September 1971, Drury’s enlistment finally ended and he was able to get out of the military (01:20:19:00) o When his enlistment ended, the Army made some effort to convince Drury to reenlist (01:20:26:00) o Although he enjoyed the regimentation of life in the Army, Drury did not like all the rules and regulations that accompanied the life (01:20:33:00) Once he was finally out of the military, Drury returned home to Michigan and got a job working at a state mental health hospital in Kalamazoo (01:21:12:00) o He eventually met his future wife the following April and the couple married in October (01:21:28:00) o All Drury wanted to do once he was out of the military was be a family man, have some kids, and be a good dad (01:21:42:00) o Drury eventually left his job working at the mental health hospital and eventually found a job working as a local delivery driver (01:21:56:00) Drury did have some troubles re-adjusting to life as a civilian (01:22:11:00) o It too him a long time to get used to sleeping in a bed and to this day, he does not like loud noises or the sound of helicopters (01:22:16:00) o As well, Drury has been diagnosed with PTSD (Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder), although he is receiving treatment for the disorder (01:22:28:00) Drury and his family own a small store in Wayland, Michigan and all the money that they earn from the store goes to help veterans who are homeless or down-trodden find jobs, get new clothes, etc. (01:23:47:00) o Unfortunately, some of the veterans that the funds are helping are younger veterans who served in Iraq and Afghanistan (01:24:33:00) o Although Drury had hoped lessons would have been learned to help the younger veterans before they drifted too far, that is not what has happened (01:24:36:00) � Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Veterans History Project Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Grand Valley State University. History Department Description An account of the resource The Library of Congress established the Veterans History Project in 2001 to collect memories, accounts, and documents of U.S. war veterans from World War II and the Korean War, Vietnam War, and conflicts in the Middle East and elsewhere, and to preserve these stories for future generations. The GVSU History Department interviews are part of this work-in-progress, and may contain videos and audio recordings, transcripts and interview outlines, and related documents and photographs. 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Special Collections & University Archives Contributor An entity responsible for making contributions to the resource Smither, James Boring, Frank Relation A related resource Veterans History Project (U.S.) Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context RHC-27 Language A language of the resource eng Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived <a href="https://gvsu.lyrasistechnology.org/repositories/2/resources/455">Veterans History Project interviews (RHC-27)</a> Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Drury, Richard (Interview outline and video), 2012 Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Drury, Richard Description An account of the resource Richard Drury was born in 1950 in Kalamazoo, Michigan. He received his draft notice shortly after finishing high school in 1969. He did his Army basic training at Fort Knox, Kentucky, and then advanced training for airborne at Fort Gordon, Georgia, and went to Vietnam early in 1970. He was assigned to Delta Company, 2nd of the 506th, 101st Airborne Division, which was based at Camp Evans in the far north of South Vietnam. His company conducted a series of combat patrols of varying lengths in the spring and summer of 1970, and was involved in heavy fighting near Firebase Maureen in May and Firebase Ripcord in July. After being wounded in the Ripcord fight, he returned to his unit, but the company did not see much further action. 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Insel-Bücherei Nr. 147 Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Seidman Rare Books. Insel-Bücherei. Z315.I5 B83 no.147 Language A language of the resource de Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available Grand Valley State University. University Libraries. Lemmen Library and Archives https://digitalcollections.library.gvsu.edu/files/original/13f5370d651dfb43e66c78982656dd1b.mp3 5413f74b61aad5bf7a64e1650b58a1e4 https://digitalcollections.library.gvsu.edu/files/original/4c3b8a4dbe6e5d1a674194aebbe6c453.pdf 363a61718e1fc61ef0b5048ab56a64f8 PDF Text Text Duane Newmeyer- Interview by Ted Reyda October 10, 2018 0:03 TR: It’s October 10th 2018 and I’m Ted Reyda. That’s R-e-y-d-a. Here at the old school house in Douglas, MI, conducting an oral history of Duane Newmeyer N-e-u-m-e-y-e-r. No. Well 0:20 DN: N-E 0:19 TR: spell it 0:21 DN: N-e-w 0:22 TR: N-e-w oh 0:23 DN: m-e-y-e-r Newmeyer 0:25 TR: Ok Um. Duane, just tell us about how and when you came to the area, or anything. Yep. How early did you did you first come? 0:35 DN: Oh 0:36 TR: and yeah 0:37 DN: Yeah um fifty—well it was about the late forties 0:41 TR: Late forties— 0:42 DN: Some friends of ours would come, and then we go to the beach. 0:45 TR: You were coming from where? 0:46 DN: Kalamazoo 0:47 TR: Kalamazoo 0:47 DN: yeah 0:48 TR: yeah 0:48 DN so we’d spend the day here and then go to beach and in downs uh town they had a uh barber shop on the main street, and at that time you could take a shower for a dollar. [laugh] 1:02 TR: Ah, so �1:02 DN: So they 1:03 TR: So there were no facilities then at Oval Beach then for fresh water then? 1:06 DN: Oh they did. You could rinse off, but that’s nothing 1:09 TR: Ah. 1:10 DN: like taking a shower you know. 1:10 TR: Oh. Ok. 1:11 DN: And so we did that and then changed our clothes and went to eat and headed back to Kalamazoo. 1:17 TR: Yeah. When you said “we” who’s--? 1:19 DN: Whoever’s about. Sometimes there was just two of us. Sometimes there was four of us. 1:23 TR: Friends or family? 1:24 DN: Friends. Yeah 1:25 TR: Oh, friends ok 1:26 DN Yeah. Friends. 1:27 TR: The, uh. At what point did--did you have family here? 1:33 DN: Oh. In the uh, (pause) I think it was in the fifties. 1:42 TR: The fifties. 1:43 DN: Mm My mother and my dad would come 1:45 TR: Ah 1:46 DN: With another couple sometime, and they’d go shopping and then go to Terra for dinner and 1: 51 TR: Ah 1:51 DN: then go back to Kalamazoo again. 1:54 TR: Ah yeah. �1:54 DN: And they like Saugatuck too, and they’d come and sometime my mother, my aunt, and mother’s cousins they would come for the day and uh, go shopping 2:05 TR: Wow 2:06 DN: And then just take a ride to the beach and then go home because we didn’t— 2:11 TR: yeah. At what point did they buy a house 2:15 DN: We bought the house in se- in nineteen sixty-five. 2:18 TR: Nineteen sixty-five 2:19 DN: yeah. 2: 20 TR: That—that was your aunt or your family? 2:22 DN: No, no it was just, we just bought it from uh, um. Well, the Smecks owned it and then, er, uh their daughter got snot grass. I think, and their daughter got it, and they kept it for a year, but it kind of bothered her to come to be there. So then she put a sign up for sale. 2:44 TR: Ah 2:45 DN: And I was going, mother and I were staying downtown at a motel and then I - I said I was going to see Jim Webster. I don’t know if you remember him. 2:53 TR: No. 2:54 DN: He was the head of the Red Barn Theater. 2:56 TR: Ah! Yes, 2:57 DN: And he lived on 2:57 TR: I heard the name. 2:59 DN: He lived on the end of our street. The Red Barn 3:02 TR: uh huh 3:03 DN: So, uh, so I did. I visited him. I told him the house was for sale, and he said “Yeah, the people that owned it were killed in an automobile accident” 3:13 TR: Oh. �3:13 DN: and, uh, so the daughter got it, but she wants to sell it. So I wrote down the number and then I said he said “Why don’t you call and see?”, and I said, “Well I’ll go home where we’re staying and talk to mother and see what she wants to do.” 3:27 TR: Uh huh 3:27 DN: So I did later. Mother said “Well, call see what she wants” so we called, she said yeah, she’d just as soon sell it. She said “give me $8,000. You can have it” 3:37 TR: [laugh] Oh really? In Sixty-five? 3:40 DN: sixty-five 3:41 TR: Uh, describe the house, how old it was or... 3:46 DN: Well, it was uh 3:50 TR: Well, first tell us the address, yeah. 3:51 DN: The address? 3:52 TR: yeah. 3:53 DN: 545 Spear Street. Upper Spear 3:55 TR: Upper Spear? Yes. 3:55 DN: Yeah 3:56 TR: Yes yeah 3:57 DN: and uh so, um, yeah, we bought it in, well we bought it in sixty-five. 4:05 TR: mmhm 4:06 DN: and uh 4:09 TR: Did you, was it in good repair? 4:11 DN: Pardon? 4:11 TR: Was it in good repair? 4:13 DN: Oh yeah, everything was in good repair. �4:14 TR: Oh. That’s good. 4:16 DN: yeah. We didn’t have to do anything. Just had it inspected you know. You call for that and also for termites or anything like that, and it was all ok. 4:24 TR: Right. 4:25 DN: And then my uncle come to look at it too from Kalamazoo. And uh see if it was all right. So everything was ok, so we signed the papers and went to our lawyer and bought it. 4:37 TR: Uh huh. Did you did you have to get a mortgage? 4:39 DN: No. We paid 4:41 TR: Cash? 4:41 DN: Mother paid cash. 4:42 TR: Ah 4:43 DN: Yeah. So 4:44 TR: They--you were doing painting at that time? 4:45 DN: Oh yeah. Yeah. 4:47 TR: So you had some ready cash 4:49 DN: Yeah. 4:49 TR: [laugh] 4:50 DN: But she paid for it [laugh] and uh 4:53 TR: So how many years did she come up? 4:56 DN: Oh that was sixty-five, and she passed away in seventy-five. 5:00 TR: Ah, so ten years 5:01 DN: Yeah. Ten years 5:03 TR: Then you took possession of it then? 5:05 DN: Yeah. It was an either and or, you know �5:07 TR: Ah. 5:07 DN: So then after she passed away, but she would come up weekends, and we’d come up week sometimes stay a week like Christmas time. And, uh, just be here at the cottage it was kind of nice. And also Thanksgiving we’d come, and it was my mother had a sister and a brother and it was our turn to have Christmas, er, to have Thanksgiving. 5:29 TR: uh huh 5:29 DN: So we said let’s have it here in Saugatuck if the weather’s nice. 5:33 TR: mm hm 5:33 DN: Well, it turned out to be real nice, so they came. 5:36 TR: Ah 5:37 DN: For the afternoon and stayed till about seven o’clock and then went back home. 5:40 TR: Was the house furnished, or you had to furnish it? 5:43 DN: It- we had to furnish it. It had some in there. It had a like a—a couch in there. 5:50 TR: Ah 5:51 DN: Some chairs. And by then we had to furnish it, the rest of it ourselves. The stove and refrigerator stayed. 5:57 TR: Ah 5:57 DN: And 5:59 TR: And course, was any of this, when did you meet Erwin? 6:02 DN: In sixty-five also. 6:04 TR: Ah 6:05 DN: Yeah 6:07 TR: You met him in Chicago or? 6:08 DN: Ah. Yes. Yeah. 6:11 TR: Ah �6:12 DN: Yeah I met him— 6:13 TR: Did you used to do work in Chicago? Or just 6:15 DN: Me? 6:16 TR: Yeah. 6:17 DN: Well later on, when I moved there after, em, uh, that was, yeah. Yeah, I don’t know I forget what year it was. 6:28 TR: Ah. The, uh 6:30 DN: In the eighties I think some place 6:32 TR: So Erwin got to meet your mother then? Did Erwin get to meet your mother? 6:37 DN: Oh yes. 6:37 TR: Ok. 6:38 DN: Yeah, yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. He met her and uh, so, oh yeah, we got along good, cause the three of us we had good times you know. So 6:46 TR: Well, what point did you go to the, uh, Blue Tempo? (pause) Before your mother died or? 6:57 DN: Oh, yeah, before she passed away we had to go sometime 7:00 TR: Did she know you were going there? 7:02 DN: No. 7:02 TR: Did she go there? 7:03 DN: No [laugh] 7:04 TR: Oh. Ok. All right. 7:05 DN: She, I don’t think she knew, but if she did she never said anything. 7:08 TR: Yeah. Ok. 7:09 DN: But then Erwin and I would go, you know, go there sometime and then uh �7:13 TR: Yeah. What was it like? The- the Blue Tempo? 7:16 DN: Oh, it was kind of nice. It was uh, a nice bar, you know. And uh 7:20 TR: It was down below or 7:22 DN: Down yeah, downstairs site. And then Ted, Toad, ran it, you know 7:26 TR: That’s why sometime people called it Toad’s 7:29 DN: Yeah. There’s Toad, there’s Toad. His last name was Davis. 7:33 TR: Ah 7:34 DN: And then his wife was Nancy. 7:36 TR: Ah 7:37 DN: and [laugh] and they would both work in the bar you know, and that was kind of nice just to go over and visit with people. 7:43 TR: I hear sometimes it was high water and they had 7:45 DN: yeah [laugh] 7:46 TR: to put planks 7:48 DN: [laugh] 7:48 TR: Yeah. 7:49 DN: Yeah, the water would come up almost to the, uh, to the bar there 7:52 TR: Yeah 7:53 DN: almost to the bar there. 7:54 TR: Did they have music there? 7:55 DN: Have what? 7:56 TR: Did they have music or-- 7:58 DN: Oh yeah 7:58 TR: --any kind of entertainment �7:59 DN: They had music too 7:59 TR: Ah 8:00 DN: Well, mostly records you know 8:01 TR: Records. Ok 8:02 DN: Yeah 8:02 TR: Did people dance? 8:03 DN: Yeah, they would dance a bit 8:05 TR: Ok 8:05 DN: too, but but 8:07 TR: What percentage of the clientele were men? As opposed, were there 8:11 DN: Most all all men 8:12 TR: All men? 8:13 DN: Yeah. Not too many gals at that time. 8:15 TR: Ah 8:15 DN: It was almost all men. 8:16 TR: Ah. 8:17 DN: And then 8:18 TR: Did you, were you ever raided or anything like that 8:21 DN: Get what? 8:21 TR: Raided by the police 8:23 DN: Not that I know of 8:24 TR: Because I think at that point it was illegal to serve homosexuals liquor from like what I understood. �8:32 DN: Oh. Could be. I don’t think it—I don’t remember if it was, but I don’t think it was ever raided 8:37 TR: Ok 8:38 DN: Yeah. 8:39 TR: And they, did they did serve liquor then? 8:41 DN: Oh yeah. Yeah. 8:42 TR: Beer and mixed drinks? 8:43 DN: Yeah. Mixed drinks yeah. Oh yeah, and then they had sandwiches you know and pretzels. 8:47 TR: Oh, they did 8:47 DN: All that, yeah. 8:48 TR: Sandwiches 8:48 DN: Yeah 8:49 TR: What was your favorite drink? 8:51 DN: A vodka tonic with a wedge of lime 8:54 TR: Ah. Ok. 8:56 DN: So. Uh. 8:57 TR: When’s the last time, did you, were, did you know, I mean, when it closed I mean did you go to the closing or anything like that? 9:05 DN: No, cause it burned-- 9:06 TR: It burned 9:07 DN: --it burned down 9:07 TR: Ok. 9:09 DN: One morning, yeah. Had the news on we did, and it said that the Blue Temple burned down. �9:16 TR: Ah 9:16 DN: So then I went, and I think that was in seventy-five too. 9:19 TR: Seventy-five 9:19 DN: The year that my mother passed away, but later, you know. I think it was 9:24 TR: Boy I just 9:24 DN: --seventy-five. 9:25 TR: missed it then because I moved here in seventy-six. 9:27 DN: Oh. Yeah. And uh, it burned and, um, so then we went to look at it, you know and see it, but most burned 9:34 TR: It was burned to the ground 9:35 DN: Almost yeah. Yeah. 9:37 TR: So is that where that blank lot is right now? No. That’s, isn’t that where the Quonset hut is? That that building that, the rounded roof building? I forget exactly where it was. 9:49 DN: Yeah. It could be it was at where Quonset hut was. I think 9:53 TR: That’s where they rebuilt 9:54 DN: Yeah. I think that 9:55 TR: Ok. 9:56 DN: That’s where it was. Along there anyway. 9:57 TR: yeah. 9:59 DN: And uh, 10:00 TR: yeah 10:01 DN: so and later on the bar was at, uh, on Butler Street. 10:06 TR: Really? 10:07 DN: Yeah, uh (pause) �10:11 TR: The Elbow or no? 10:13 DN: Uh, (pause) well it’s in the first block , you know, where, um, is where Pumpernickel’s is. 10:23 TR: Oh! 10:23 DN: Butler Street, where you come out and the whole street there to your left, you know, go right to the end, the building is painted bright yellow. 10:31 TR: Ok. 10:33 DN: The Log Cabin 10:34 TR: The Log Cabin 10:34 DN: Yeah Yeah it was 10:35 TR: OK the Log Cabin 10:35 DN: Yeah that’s what it was called. The Log Cabin and then 10:37 TR: So then that 10:38 DN: And that went gay for a while. 10:40 TR: Yeah, East of the Sun was there 10:42 DN: Yeah. 10:43 TR: Ok. 10:45 DN: Later on yeah 10:45 TR: Now it’s something else. Yeah, no. It’s bright yellow 10:47 DN: Yeah. 10:49 TR: I’ll be darned, that’s been a lot of things because I heard at one time that was a meat market. Way back 10:56 DN: that could be 10:58 TR: yeah all these buildings 10:59 DN: Yeah, uh, Pumpernickel’s used to be a meat market and grocery store �11:01 TR: I, yes, I knew that. 11:02 DN I remember that 11:05 TR: Yeah. Did you ever go, well certainly you must, you and uh, Duane must have gone over. Erwin I mean, used to go over to the beach, I would imagine. 11:13 DN: Oh yeah. We went to the beach. Yeah. 11:16 TR: Did you ever wander up into the dunes? 11:18 DN: Once a while, yeah, we go there and walk around. Sometime we’d set up there. Then again, we’d just stay in the bottom. 11:24 TR: Were there nudists back then? 11:26 DN: Oh yeah. 11:26 TR: Oh yeah. 11:27 DN: Yep. Oh yeah. 11:28 TR: Strangely enough, last week it was warm. I hadn’t been over there for a long time, and there are still nudists there. 11:33 DN: Yeah. 11:33 TR: I, now, that the city owns north of the Oval to the uh, outlet, uh, you know, I thought, well they’re not going to do that anymore, but there were nude men so. 11:43 DN: Oh. Really? 11:45 TR: And they said in the summer you watch out for tour—as they call tourists—but they’re still out there. 11:49 DN: Oh. 11:49 TR: And that’s nice to hear because of 11:53 DN: Yeah. 11:53 TR: It’s a very nice thing to enjoy in the summer 11:54 DN: yeah. It was nice years ago you know �11:57 TR: yeah 11:57 DN: going up there and then, yeah, there’d be about six or seven of us sometime. You know we’d just, where the parking lot is, just walk in the sand a little bit. Like Bob Birch, and Bob Harris, and Bill D. Young 12:07 TR: Yes 12:08 DN: We’d all be in the circle, then we play cards 12:11 TR: Yes! You’re part of that group 12:13 DN: Yeah. 12:14 TR: And I, we used to get really sunburned, not sun burned, but sun tanned there 12:17 DN: Yeah. 12:18 TR: because they were always playing cards 12:20 DN: Cards, we, uh, played cards and it was kind of fun and then course then, later on, I got an umbrella. 12:26 TR: Yeah 12:27 DN: Because I couldn’t take the sun-12:28 TR: Oh I -12:28 DN:-- too long I’d just burn to a crisp. That or I’d have to go up to the concession stand and set there for about half hour. 12:34 TR: Yeah. 12:34 DN: And then come back to the beach. 12:36 TR: Yeah. It’s funny. I used to go swimming around three o’clock, you know, during the summer, and no longer a, uh, group there. 12:45 DN: No. No. 12:46 TR: Most of them moved away or died or something like that 12:47 DN: Yeah. Oh yeah. 12:49 TR: So they were an, an institution. They would always observe who was walking down. �12:54 DN: Yeah. 12:56 TR: to the private area-12:57 DN: Yeah, yeah we could see it 12:57 TR: --of beaches 12:59 DN: we weren’t too far from there and, 12:59 TR: Yeah. 13:01 DN: at that time uh, well the other owners, they would charge to go down there. 13:05 TR: Yes. 13:06 DN: In the other end 13:07 TR: And that’s why people then felt safer, because 13:09 DN: Yeah. Yeah. 13:10 TR: Nobody would bother them. 13:11 DN: Yeah. 13:12 TR: But, I, yeah, I moved here in seventy-six, and I was walking along the beach towards the outlet and, uh, said “Why are those men looking at me from up in the dunes?” And I said, “Oh. Oh dear” 13:26 DN: [laugh] Yeah. 13:26 TR: [laugh] Now I know! 13:27 DN: No. Yeah. [laugh] 13:30 TR: And, uh, at, you know, uh, I guess oxbow they used to have all kinds of parties and things 13:36 DN: Yeah. Down there. The oxbow. Yeah. 13:37 TR: The far end 13:38 DN: yeah. Yeah. �13:39 TR: Type of thing. 13:40 DN: yeah. 13:40 TR: Where did you meet Duane? 13:41 DN: What do you mean? 13:42 TR: Erwin! I’m sorry 13:43 DN: Yeah. 13:44 TR: I’m switching the names. 13:45 DN: In Chicago. 13:46 TR: In Chicago. 13:37 DN: It was a friend of mine. He was staying with a friend of mine. 13:49 TR: Ah. 13:50 DN: And, uh, I had, uh, I would talk to him on the phone because I would call my friend 13:55 TR: Ah. 13:55 DN: But he’d be gone sometime and Erwin would answer. So I would talk with him. And then, I’d just say, “Come up some time to Saugatuck.” He says “Yeah, maybe eventually.” And then, uh, 14:06 TR: Erwin, uh, Erwin had never been to Saugatuck? 14:10 DN: Oh yeah! 14:11 TR: Oh? 14:11 DN: He used to come up, yeah. 14:12 TR: So he knew of it. 14:13 DN: Oh yeah. 14:13 TR: Ok. 14:14 DN: He would come up with other friends before I even knew it. �14:16 TR: Ah. Ok. 14:17 DN: And then, uh, maybe I showed you pictures of it. He had a red corvette? 14:21 TR: Yeah. 14:21 DN: And that was parked in, uh, pictures of, uh ship and shore 14:26 TR: Yeah. 14:27 DN: and uh 14:30 TR: Yeah. 14:30 DN: But then one, oh, one, during the week, my friend would call me and say that his boss had tickets for Hello, Dolly. 14:40 TR: Oo 14:40 DN: Two of them, but he had to go out of town him and his wife, so, he gave them to Wes. So we called me, would I want to come in to Hello, Dolly ? I said sure, so I came 14:50 TR: Sure 14:51 DN: I come in Friday night and the, um, mm, ah, musical was Saturday. 14:56 TR: Ah. 14:56 DN: So then I met Erwin after that. Come home. 14:59 TR: Was their place in Chicago downtown or Northside? Where were they living in Chicago? 15:05 DN: Uh, yeah, I can’t remember the name of it. Yeah. Uh. 15:10 TR: But it was convenient to-15:11 DN: Oh yeah down there 15:12 TR: -- The theater district? 15:13 DN: yeah. Downtown some place 15:15 TR: So you used to go in to Chicago before the four lane. How long did it take you to get there without the express way? �15:22 DN: Yeah the expressway. Oh, about two and half hours, three hours. 15:28 TR: Really? 15:28 DN: Yeah. If there wasn’t too much traffic. 15:29 TR: Oh. Oh yeah. 15:30 DN: Because he lived on North Avenue, so that was nice. Cause I would just stay on the expressway until I got to North Avenue and then get off, in two blocks I was by the house. 15:37 TR: Ok. 15:38 DN: Yeah. 15:41 TR: The, and when did you move back here permanently? From Chicago? 15:44 DN: Back here? Uh, to Saugatuck, (pause) uh, 15:52 TR: Well, we’ll think of it, yeah. 15:54 DN: Yeah, maybe 15:54 TR: The uh 15:55 DN: in the nineties? 15:56 TR: Erwin stayed in Chicago working then? 15:58 DN: Oh yeah. He was there, and then I was working in Kalamazoo, and then my mother was living. 16:01 TR: Ah. 16:03 DN: And we had the apartment house next door with twelve apartments, so I couldn’t live, leave there. You know. 16:07 TR: Ah. 16:08 DN: Because it was busy keeping those up, you know? So then after she passed away it was seventy-five, and then, I think in the eighties someplace, then I moved to Chicago. 16:18 TR: Ah. 16:19 DN: And I was there almost eight years. �16:21 TR: Ah. 16:22 DN: And he sold the house there, and we moved to Saugatuck. 16:24 TR: Ok. That. That’s when it happened. 16:26 DN: Yeah. And so we’d been here and 16:30 TR: And congratulations. I understand, uh, the two of you married not too long ago. 16:37 DN: Yeah. Yeah. And yeah. In, um, January. 16:43 TR: January of 16:45 DN: 20 16:46 TR: 2018. 16:47 DN: Yeah. 16:48 TR: Yeah. Well. Congratulations. 16:49 DN: Yeah. 16:50 TR: It’s unfortunate that Erwin is no longer with us. 16:53 DN: Yeah. 16:54 TR: I enjoyed meeting him, and, uh, yeah. 16:58 DN: Yeah. Yeah, I really miss him. You know? He passed away the fifth of February. 17:03 TR: Yeah. 17:03 DN: Almost eight months. Nine months. Eight months already. 17:06 TR: Well, you always will miss him. There’s no doubt about it. 17:07 DN: Yeah. Yeah. 17:10 TR: That’s, uh. 17:11 DN: Yeah. And things come up, you know 17:12 TR: Exactly. �17:13 DN: That we did and think about it. Oh yeah. It’s just a different life all together. 17:17 TR: Oh. 17:17 DN: You know. 17:19 TR: But, what age are you right now? 17:21 DN: (pause). I’m, uh, eighty-six 17:24 TR: Eighty-six? And you’re still working painting? 17:26 DN: [laugh] 17:28TR: I I can’t believe it. Because 17:29 DN: Little bit. 17:30 TR: I’m seventy-five, and I want to give up. 17:32 DN: Yeah. 17:33 TR: gardening yeah. 17:34 DN: Oh yeah. Well, that’s harder work too. 17:35 TR: Well painting, to me, also 17:38 DN: Oh yeah. If it was a lot of hard work, I wouldn’t do it. 17:41 TR: Yeah. 17:42 DN: But this is just touch up spots. 17:43 TR: Ah. 17:44 DN: For Larry on the wood work, and 17:45 TR: The Pumpernickel. Yeah. 17:47 DN: Yeah. At his house. 17:49 TR: Oh yeah. At his house 17:49 DN: I’m working at his house. �17:50 TR: He’s still live Upper Spear? 17:51 DN: Yeah. 17:52 TR: Uh yeah. 17:53 DN: Just down the other end of us. Yeah. 17:54 TR: Ok. 17:55 DN: And uh, 17:56 TR: Oh, I see. 17:56 DN: Yeah. And because he wants eventually, I think the end of this month he’s done at the restaurant. 18:01 TR: They close for the winter? 18:03 DN: Oh no. He sold it. 18:04 TR: He- I did not know that. 18:06 DN: Yeah. He sold the business, and he sold the building. 18:09 TR: I’ll be damned. 18:10 DN: Last year already. But he agreed to with the new owners to help them out and 18:14 TR: Yeah. 18:15 DN: and all this and that 18:16 TR: Will they do you think they’ll keep the same food? 18:20 DN: I don’t know. 18:21 TR: and menu? 18:21 DN: Yeah. They want to, I guess, have a restaurant, and eventually they want to have dinners at night. 18:26 TR: Oh 18:27 DN: What I understand, so how true that is I don’t know. �18:29 TR: With more and more people staying in the B and B’s, they’re looking for places 18:34 DN: Yeah. 18:35 TR: Course Hercules closed, but the. 18:37 DN: Yeah. 18:38 TR: Was sold and they are going to, and somebody else is taking over that. So. 18:42 DN: Yeah and well for a while, um, maybe three, four years ago, Larry had started for breakfast or for dinners at night. But that only lasted one season. And he didn’t do it again. I don’t know 18:53 TR: Yeah. 18:54 DN: It didn’t pay out or what 18:56 TR: Getting help consistently and 19:00 DN: Yeah 19:01 TR: All that, boy, it 19:01 DN: It’s hard. 19:02 TR: Tough business. 19:03 DN: yeah. 19L93 TR: Uh. 19:04 DN: So he said too, he wanted the house to look nice too, and he put in new carpeting in the dining room 19:09 TR: Will he sell the house, also do you think? 19:11 DN: He wants to sell, excuse me. He wants to sell it 19:14 TR: And move away? 19:15 DN: Yeah. They’ll move to, I think it’s somewhat close to Detroit some places. He has a sister and relatives there. 19:21 TR: Ah �19:22 DN: And they said he could go there, and Jenny, she doesn’t have many. She only has a brother, and he’s a priest in New Orleans. 19:31 TR: Wow 19:32 DN: So, but he says, something happens to him well then at least there’ll be some family around for Jenny. 19:38 TR: Yeah 19:38 DN: And, uh, so, but, then all last week he said, well after they, he’s done with it he said I think they’re just going to stay for a while, relax, and he said, I said, “Well how long you had the restaurant?” He said “thirty years.” 19:53 TR: Yes. 19:54 DN: That’s a long time. So. He said, “Just relax” and, maybe they’ll wait till spring then to put the house up for sale. 20:00 TR: The. You must be, one of the original, or, person who has lived in Upper Spear area the longest, I would imagine. 20:11 DN: Um. Now I am, yes. 20:12 TR: Now. 20:13 DN: Yeah 20:14 TR: Well, one of your neighbors was Burr Tillstrom 20:16 DN: Yeah. 20:18 TR: And uh, 20:19 DN: Yeah he was 20:20 TR: Interesting character 20:21 DN: Yeah 20:21 TR: Somebody listening to the tape who don’t know who that is, he created uh, the whole Kukla, Fran, and Ollie thing in Chicago 20:28 DN: Yeah �20:29 TR: And I remember from my childhood, and we have a memorial to him in our downtown Saugatuck park, but yeah, describe his structure up there. 20:40 DN: The house? 20:41 TR: Yeah. 20:42 DN: It was all, it was a nice old house. It was all barn wood inside. He, uh, had to fix it up. 20:46 TR: Was it originally a barn, do you think? 20:47 DN: I think so, yeah 20:49 TR: Yeah. 20:50 DN: And then there was barn wood limber, and then he put more in. Well, Jim Webster did a lot of that first. 20:55 TR: Ah. They got the man from the theater 20:56 DN: Yeah, he did most of it. And that burst after Jim died, and they had it for sale and, uh, 21:04 TR: Burr 21:05 DN: Burr Tillstrom bought it 21:07 TR: Yeah 21:07 DN: He lived in Chicago, and when I moved to Chicago, and I did painting for him in his condo 21:13 TR: Yes 21:13 DN: Over there too. And uh 21:17 TR: Describe what we had a conversation about all the little crevices in his house. What were in, in these crevices then? 21:23 DN: Well they found a lot of different things in there I guess. I uh, papers and pictures and 21:30 TR: Well, from what I, when I was up there, all, when he needed a new Kuklapolitan character, Ollie or what was, I’m forgetting some of the characters. He couldn’t throw them away. He, he would put them in little cubbyholes in the walls. �21:48 DN: Oh, that that could be yeah. 21:49 TR: He still had all the characters 21:50 DN: Yeah 21:51 TR: that he 21:53 DN: I think 21:53 TR: refurbished it 21:54 DN: Yeah. Because later on, after Burr died, and then Jim and David bought the house. 22:00 TR: Yeah. 22:01 DN: For uh 22:03 TR: Yeah 22:04 DN: For uh 22:04 TR: Yes 22:05 DN: to rent out. Then they found a lot of stuff in there I guess of Burr’s, you know? 22:08 TR: Yes. 22:09 DN: So 22:10 TR: The, uh, from what I understand he was Christian Science 22:13 DN: Yeah 22:13 TR: and he didn’t want to mow his lawn or anything because of insects and frogs and things he might kill them so, you know. It probably looked a little disheveled, yeah. 22:23 DN: Yeah 22:24 TR: [laugh] 22:24 DN: but he would cut it sometime 22:25 TR: Oh, ok. �22:26 DN: Cause sometime I’d come up weekend just, or Saturday, and then have to go back to Kalamazoo if we were going to do something. And then I’d cut the grass and so, like that, and he’d be there cutting his grass, and he’d come. He’d wave like this, “Come on over here. I just made a pie.” 22:40 TR: Oh 22:40 DN: So then I’d come over, he had a deck in the back. 22:43 TR: Yeah. 22:43 DN: On the back side there. So then we’d sit and have pie, then I’d go back cutting grass, and he did too. 22:47 TR: Oh yeah. When I stopped by he was baking bread and said “Oh you’ve got to stay for some fresh baked bread” 22:53 DN: Yeah. 22:54 TR: It was very good 22:55 DN: Yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah. He was kind of nice. And then he had a dog, Emily 22:58 TR: Yeah. The hound dog 22:59 DN: Yeah (laugh) 23:00 TR: Yes. Cause I was over there where he was just as disturbed as I’ve ever seen him because he took him over to Oval Beach, and let him loose. And the dog just chased something, and he was calling and calling. And we all went out trying to find the dog. 23:16 DN: Yeah. 23:18 TR: And then he just waited, and it finally came back. I guess it got hungry, but he was so disturbed over that dog. 23:24 DN: Yeah. I suppose. 23:25 TR: Wouldn’t listen to him 23:26 DN: Yeah. Yeah. He was quite a pet for him, you know. 23:29 TR: I know it’s interesting when they, uh, I think it was the Saugatuck Douglas Women’s Club got together that money to build that little, uh, to make that bronze sculpture of that. �23:29 DN: Yeah 23:32 TR: Young girl with a puppet. He said he never wanted any memorial 23:46 DN: Oh. 23:46 TR: And, and uh, I remember him saying that. I guess that the people of the town thought that he needed to be remembered. 23:52 DN: Remembered yeah. But 23:54 TR: And you think about my nieces and nephews and grand nieces and nephew, they hardly even know about him, so 24:00 DN: No. yeah. It’s true 24:02 TR: It needs documentation 24:03 DN: Yeah 24:04 TR: and the, uh, Historical Society has a lot of things from it 24:09 DN: from- from- yeah. 24:10 TR: I got one of his old—he did a couple little performances here in town 24:15 DN: Oh 24:17 TR: And, uh, very enjoyable 24:18 DN: Yeah. 24:19 TR: And, uh, he left some of the stage work and 24:21 DN: Yeah 24:21 TR: And there’s two other guys that live in Douglas, uh, I gave it to them. Because they were going to refurbish it and all that, but they said they’d loan it back to the, what we now call the History Center. Any time we wanted to, to do a show, so. One of the amazing character, that’s for sure. 24:39 DN: Yeah, he was nice and one oh, that one weekend Fran was up and some of the other guys and then, it was kind of nice too. 24:47 TR: Oh yeah. �24:48 DN: And then mother and I had him up for dinner. 24:50 TR: Oh, really? 24:51 DN: All of them, and then for dessert we went to his house and showed pictures of Kuklu, Fran, and Ollie. 24:56 TR: Oh good 24:58 DN: When he first started and all this, so that was kind of interesting 25:01 TR: Yeah 25:02 DN: Yeah, so. 25:03 TR: I wonder when he first started coming to Saugatuck. Uh. Don’t know. Yeah. 25:09 DN: Yeah, well, no. I, um, no and I can’t even remember the year he bought the house either. 25:15 TR: He didn’t have it when you, when your family bought it 25:18 DN: No 25:19 TR: No it was after that. 25:20 DN: No. No. Jim Webster owned it at that time. 25:21 TR: Ok and 25:23 DN: When we bought it, yeah. Yeah. We bought our house. And later, Jim, uh, I don’t know was around four or five years, and then he passed away. 25:31 TR: Ah 25:32 DN: had cancer I think 25:32 TR: Yeah. 25:33 DN: And then he worked at the Red Barn and um 25:36 TR: had a lot of interesting, a lot of local people that performed there. 25:42 DN: Yeah 25:44 TR: At the Red Barn and for our summer theater �25:45 DN: Oh yeah. Red Barn Theater there yeah 25:47 TR: Yeah 25:47 DN: That was kind of nice a place, you know? 25:50 TR: Oh exactly, especially when you knew the people and 25:51 DN: Yeah 25:52 TR: Playing characters that, wow, I didn’t think they were that good and 25:55 DN: Yeah it was kind of nice 25:56 TR: There was a couple of them now, I’m forgetting the names, their children did a little bit of the open stock and went on to do television and various things. 26:05 DN: Yeah. 26:05 TR: I can’t remember the name now, but I’m sure it’s been documented somewhere. But, I , yeah. 26:12 DN: Yeah it was nice. 26:13 TR: Glad to see it, it went on, well I guess it’s folded now. Isn’t it? Are they going to use that? 26:19 DN: What’s that? The-26:21 TR: They were going to do a brewery 26:22 DN: Yeah they’re going to make a brewery out of the Red Barn. That’s a shame 26:25 TR: So 26:25 DN: That’s a shame. Too bad. 26:27 TR: So they’re not having summer stock there 26:28 DN: No 26:28 TR: Then we have the, you know, SCA, 26:30 DN: Yeah �26:31 TR: the Saugatuck Center for the Arts, so 26:32 DN: Yeah. 26:33 TR: Theater continues, but 26:35 DN: Oh yeah. It’s not like the old-26:37 TR: No 26:37 DN: Red Barn 26:37 TR: They—they get professionals 26:40 DN: Yeah. 26:40 TR: coming in 26:41 DN: Yeah 26:41 TR: Oh, I’m sure the Red Barn had some professionals. 26:44 DN: Yeah, but not all, no no. But it was interesting 26:47 TR: Oh, absolutely. 26:48 DN: We enjoyed it. 26:48 TR: A lot of the summer resort communities 26:50 DN: Yeah 26:51 TR: had theater 26:52 DN: Theater, like then Augusta too. Remember? Augusta had a theater too 26:56 TR: yeah. 26:57 DN: And that was nice too, but, oh, like the one here in the summer was awful hot and muggy. It was hot in there. That fan 27:03 TR: Oh 27:04 DN: Spin, but oh. It was hot �27:07 TR: Yeah. I don’t know if you, I’ve been trying to get information, um, Tower Marine, there used to be a tower. And that’s why they called it Tower Marine. Do you remember that? 27:19 DN: No. I don’t remember that. 27:19 TR: No. You don’t? 27:20 DN: No. 27:20 TR: Do you remember that big Quonset hut type of building where they now have the big pole barn where they store the boats? I saw pictures, and the, um, Petersons told me they bought it. And, uh, it used to have, they used to have dances and entertainment there, and they had that little rooms that you could rent. Little rooms. But you didn’t, you don’t remember anything about it then? 27:50 DN: I don’t remember that no. 27:51 TR: Ok (pause) What restaurants did your family go to? Did you cook at home, or did you go out? 27:56 DN: Oh we cooked and we went out to eat. They had different ones um, well the Butler was always there. 28:04 TR: Ah ha. 28:05 DN: And um, I don’t remember the upstairs. They had an upstairs to the Butler years ago. 28:11 TR: Yep. 28:12 DN: And 28:12 TR: And they, unfortunately tore it down. 28:13 DN: That down, yeah. It got bad, so they tore that down and 28:17 TR: Yeah 28:17 DN: And oh there was-28:18 TR: Changed it quite a bit, yeah. 28:20 DN: Yeah. 28:21 TR: And there was Terra. Did you ever go to Terra? �28:22 DN: And Terra, we’d go to Terra, and there was a restaurant, well, there still is a restaurant right next to the drug store? On that side (pause) 28:34 TR: Ah. The Embassy? Or 28:37 DN: Embassy is now. I guess. It was called something else 28:39 TR: Oh. Of course 28:40 DN: And a couple ran that then. They had good food. 28:42 TR: Ah 28:42 DN: They had homemade dressings. 28:44 TR: Oh. 28:44 DN: And then, but I can’t remember the name of it. 28:48 TR: Yeah. Did your family ever have a boat? 28:51 DN: No. No. 28:52 TR: Oh. 28:53 DN: No No 28:54 TR: Not boating people 28:55 DN: No [laugh]. No they didn’t. See my dad never got, um, I mean lived in the house in Saugatuck. 28:01 TR: No? 28:03 DN: He passed away before 28:03 TR: Ah. 28:04 DN: He died in, ah (pause) fifty, fifty-eight. I think it was. 29:10 TR: uh huh. 29:11 DN: fifty-seven, fifty-eight. So. 29:13 TR: Do you think he would have approved of you guys having a place here? �29:20 DN: Oh, I think he would have. Yeah. Yeah. Sure. But they would come here, Mother and Dad, and go just for the day. Couple of times they stayed overnight in a place too. Then they’d shop a little bit and. 29:35 TR: ah. 29:35 DN: Um 29:36 TR: What did your father do? 29:37 DN: He was a barber 29:38 TR: Ah. 29:39 DN: On Michigan Avenue there in Kalamazoo. He had two, uh, people working with him. 29:42 TR: Ah. But you mentioned that you’d come up here and get a haircut up here? (pause). I thought you said that. No? 29:50 DN: No. No. 29:50 TR: Oh, I’m sorry 29:51 DN: No. There was a barber shop here on the main street 29:53 TR: Yes! 29:54 DN: We would go there to take a shower 29:56 TR: Ok. That’s what you meant. 29:58 DN: Yeah. And it cost a dollar 29:59 TR: Ah. 30:01 DN: At that time to take a shower 30:02 TR: I remember they had the barber pole 30:05 DN: Yeah 30:05 TR: I moved here in seventy-six, they 30:07 DN: Oh. Yeah. �30:07 TR: Then they built, I think, that’s where those clothing stores are now. 30:10 DN: Yeah. mm 30:11 TR: There was a news stand near by 30:12 DN: Yeah and then, Don Poll- Polder, remember him 30:17 TR: Yes 30:18 DN: He had a real nice store there too 30:20 TR: Yep 30:22 DN: Real nice store, couple doors down there. 30:22 TR: With the architect John Hurst, I helped redo some of those buildings. 30:26 DN: OK. 30:26 TR: When I, I decided I didn’t want to design 30:29 DN: Yeah 30:30 TR: Office furniture anymore 30:31 DN: Yeah. Yeah Don was a nice person too. And I did a lot of work at his cottage. 30:35 TR: I would imagine 30:36 DN: Painting and 30:38 TR: Yeah. Yeah. 30:39 DN: And also in Chicago 30:40 TR: Ah, ah. 30:42 DN: The, um, his friend (pause) Lauderdale was his last name. But I think he got the building. Kind of right across the street. 30:58 TR: Yes. 30:58 DN: From Don Poller’s place. 31:00 TR: Yes. �31:00 DN: That building right next to um 31:02 TR: Kilwins? 31:02 DN: That fudge place 31:04 TR: Yes! Yes! That’s the building I helped work on. 31:06 DN: Ok. 31:07 TR: With John Hurst, yes. 31:08 DN: Yeah. And I think he, oh, Don left to him that building 31:12 TR: Yes. Yes. And uh, 31:15 DN: Rick Lauderdale I think his name was. 31:18 TR: It’s interesting that when they tore into that building, a lot of those buildings along there interconnected with door ways. 31:25 DN: Yeah. 31:25 TR: You know. I guess because people owned all the buildings, and they wanted access to the and all that. There was all these inner workings and walls and really crazy stuff. Yeah. 31:36 DN: Yeah. I guess so. 31:37 TR: I found a board in there that said the Saugatuck Lumber Company. And they’ve been trying to research, where was the Saugatuck Lumber Company? It was printed on a board. 31:47 DN: Oh 31:47 TR: And so, at the point there must have been a company 31:52 DN: Yeah. Yeah. 31:53 TR: selling lumber, and don’t know if they made it here. 31:57 DN: Yeah. I don’t either. 31:58 TR: A lot of changes that’s for sure. 32:00 DN: Yeah. �32:02 TR: What’s some of the biggest changes do you think you’ve seen in the area? Over the period of time? 32:08 DN: Oh. Oh, the town and the people 32:11 TR: Yeah oh of course. New people 32:13 DN: Yeah. 32:14 TR: But how about, well, of course shops. 32:16 DN: Yeah, the shops have changed a lot too. 32:20 TR: I- I was just I guess I’m getting at the condos. Condos became a new thing 32:25 DN: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah condos 32:26 TR: Yeah Forrest Morris was one of the first to buy into the that, uh, I’ve forgotten now what it was called. The one on Francis Street. That old building, the yellow condos. It was the first condo conversion. 32:39 DN: Oh 32:39 TR: That building was abandoned, yeah. 32:43 DN: Oh. 32:43 TR: It was redone, and they went trying to sell it, and they made the condo association. So, you know. So, it was one of the first. 32:50 DN: Yeah. 32:50 TR: It was only four units 32:52 DN: On Francis Street up the hill 32:55 TR: Yes 32:55 DN: Yeah, yeah. Um, there’s still condos there 32:58 TR: Yes. They, it seems like every three years they’re resold [laughs] 33:02 DN: Oh yeah. 33:03 TR: The turnover is just amazing �33:04 DN: Yeah. 33:05 TR: The real estate people made it. They have such a prob- a problem with water. You said you have a Michigan basement, but they kept, there’s clay up there, and it would hold in the water. And actually there’s a stream up there that went down that went down the hill. So they just filled the basement in. Yeah. 33:21 DN: Oh. 33:21 TR: [laugh] 33:22 DN: Wow. 33:24 TR: Just decided it was too hard to keep it. 33:24 DN: Hard to keep it. 33:25 TR: dry type of thing 33:28 DN: yeah. I’m surprised they didn’t have, uh, 33:32 TR: termites and rot 33:33 DN: No. Basement, what do you call that? 33:35 TR: Michigan basement. 33:36 DN: Yeah, but, I, uh, Jim and David next to us too. They’ve got a basement too, but they got uh, to keep their water out. What do you call it? 33:48TR: Sump pump 33:49 DN: A sump pump 33:49 TR: Yeah 33:50 DN: They had that in there 33:50 TR: I think they had those. The, the problem, well, your neighbors have a newer house and it’s poured concrete. 33:58 DN: Yeah. 33:59 TR: That was cinderblock I think, no it was stone. Old stone. 34:04 DN: Oh. �34:05 TR: Just, just to the east of it, and the society has pictures of it, there was a Victorian house. A two story Victorian house 34:12 DN: Oh 34:13 TR: And I forgot what year it, it was torn down. Uh, but that’s where their lawn is. There was actually a house there. 34:20 DN: Oh well. 34:21 TR: And then, yeah. And when they were doing some renovation Forest said they found in there uh, because they rented the rooms when the big steam ships would come in, to dance, to dance at the Pavilion. 34:34 DN: Yeah. 34:35 TR: They would rent the rooms because the people would stay the night or the weekend or something like that. 34:40 DN: Yeah. 34:40 TR: And he found postcards that people were writing about how much they, well, that they they had to get their wardrobe together to come to Saugatuck to go dancing and to meet somebody and 34:54 DN: yeah 34:54 TR: all that type of that. So. 34:56 DN: Yeah, then in the Pavilion later they had the restaurant down stairs 34:58 TR: mhm. 34:59 DN: Remember that 35:00 TR: So you actually were in the Pavilion? 35:03 DN: Oh yes, uh. Yeah they used to have roller skating and dancing 35:06 TR: Really? 35:08 DN: And roller skating 35:09 TR: Ah �35:09 DN: And then uh, later on downstairs they had a restaurant. And that was good food down there. 35:15 TR: ah 35:16 DN: Lot of big boats would come a cruising down there, go eat 35:18 TR: Yes, they would raft off 35:20 DN: And uh, yeah. 35:22 TR: Do you ever remember the um, outdoor theater that they had, open air? That might have been after, uh, before your time 35:31 DN: No 35:33 TR: Yeah, but just down from there, they showed pictures without a building. 35:38 DN: Oh. 35:38 TR: Just a screen and chairs. Yeah. 35:40 DN: Close to the Pavilion there? 35:41 TR: Yeah, it’s close to the Pavilion. 35:45 DN: Well they could have that I forgot it too, because 35:46 TR: Yeah. 35:47 DN: Because at that time too, we weren’t living here. I just come weekends. 35:51 TR: Weekends. 35:52 DN: Sometime, and sometime just for the day, you know. 35:54 TR: Yeah 35:54 DN: And then we didn’t move here til, uh, 35:57 TR: Did they charge at Oval Beach? Back 36:01 DN: No. No then. 36:01 TR: No? �36:02 DN: I don’t think so. 36:03 TR: Ah 36:03 DN: We didn’t have to pay. I don’t think. I don’t remember, but I don’t think so. 36:06 TR: The high way was there to go there. 36:09 DN: The what? 36:10 TR: Uh, they had the uh 36:23 DN: Road to go to the beach? 36:14 TR: Yeah 36:14 DN: Oh yeah. That was there 36:15 TR: Because that, at some point you had to take a boat to go all the way around to it. And then I forget what year they actually built that 36:22 DN: Oh 36:22 TR: That road. That windy road that 36:24 DN: Yeah. I just remember the road going up there. And the road was on both sides. I mean you go and it was on either side 36:31 TR: It was Oval 36:31 DN: But now it’s closed off 36:32 TR: Yeah 36:33 DN: If you remember that part of the road. 36:35 TR: Yeah 36:35 DN: And then uh, yeah. That’s um 36:38 TR: Well, let’s talk about the changes. It’s sort of sad to see the um Presbyterian Camp, there’s now houses. 36:44 DN: Yeah. �36:45 TR: Gated community and north of the channel, that’s going to be houses they’re building, so. 36:49 DN: Yeah. That’s all changed. Yeah. 36:52 TR: The beauty was that you could go to Oval Beach and look North and south and not see a house. 36:56 DN: Yeah 36:57 TR: and you thought, boy this is just as wild as you want. 37:01 DN: And that was nice then. 37:03 TR: Yes 37:DN: And now you get houses and 37:06 TR: I know. And gated communities meaning yeah. You got to come by invitation and 37:11 DN: yeah 37:12 TR: all that. 37:13 DN: yeah 37:14 TR: Which is, unfortunate 37:15 DN: yeah and Gilkamy Gated community is nice now, but it was 37:20 TR: Yes 37:21 DN: More years ago 37:23 TR: Because I’d go out there. Chat with somebody. Lay in the sun 37:27 DN: Yeah. 37:27 TR: You know. And they got to be friends. 37:30 DN: Yeah 37:30 TR: We didn’t go to, I didn’t go to bars, you know, but you eventually got to know people and 37:36 DN: Yeah �37:38 TR: Yeah. And you’d have them for dinners and things like that. 37:41 DN: Yeah. There was more people around then, gay people now. 37:45 TR: As I say, they’re still up there. 37:49 DN: Oh yeah. 37:50 TR: And nude in the dunes 37:51 DN: Oh yeah. 37:51 TR: So that’s pretty good 37:53 DN: Oh there’s still a lot of them here you know. In the bar, you know 37:55 TR: Well that was a fear, you know, if they stop, if they bought Oval Beach and stopped nudity there, which I guess the city would, technically has said that, uh, because if you read the signs, that gay people wouldn’t come here, but that doesn’t seem to be the case. 38:14 DN: No, no. 38:15 TR: Of course we have the, you know in Douglas now, the Dunes 38:19 DN: Yeah, 38:20 TR: uh, Bar. But I’m too old to go to bars, so 38:23 DN: Yeah, me too. I don’t go anymore, you know. 38:26 TR: They say “What’s that old man doing here” and [laughs] 38:28 DN: yeah [laughs]. No. I haven’t been there for a long time. We used to go sometime, and I guess I told just for the Halloween party 38:36 TR: Yes 38:37 DN: To see the costumes and that was kind of nice 38:40 TR: Well Douglas has an amazing parade. 38:42 DN: Yeah 38:44 TR: You know, Halloween �38:44 DN: Halloween too 38:47 TR: Yeah it was nice for a while, and this is now the seventies. Is that, I forget what night. People would bring some kind of food to pass. 38:57 DN: Oh 38:57 TR: And you would buy a drink, and there was all kinds of snacks at the Dunes. 39:00 DN: Oh 39:01 TR: And this is when Carl and Larry owned it. 39:02 DN: Yeah. 39:03 TR: And, um, much more friendly. 39:05 DN: Yeah. 39:06 TR: And of course Carl and Larry already had a restaurant there for a while 39:10 DN: Well, yeah, 39:11 TR: And then yeah. 39:11 DN: Yeah, they had good food at the restaurant. 39:13 TR: And then the tea dances 39:14 DN: Yeah. 39:15 TR: Oh my gosh. [laugh] 39:16 DN: That was kind of fun 39:18 TR: Woah, bumper to bumper people 39:18 DN: We used to go to them 39:20 TR: And I 39:21 DN: yeah 39:21 TR: I was there when Eartha Kitt came. 39:22 DN: Oh �39:24 TR: You know actually Eartha Kitt. The singer. 39:26 DN: Yeah. 39:27 TR: And, uh, she was really fantastic but uh, and I guess, I would imagine they would still have tea dances, but then, you know. 39:33 DN: Yeah, 39:34 TR: Again, I don’t go over there. Yeah. 39:37 DN: Yeah. We used to go once in a while to the tea dance too. That was a big crowd for that 39:43 TR: Yeah. 39:43 DN: mm 39:44 TR: The, um, so, did you ever, did you go away for your sum—for your winters? 39:52 DN: We used to 39:54 TR: go down 39:54 DN: Mother and I before I met Erwin we used to go to, well my folks always went 39:59 TR: Ah. 40:00 DN: In the winter for maybe a month or two. 40:02 TR: Ah 40:02 DN: Sarasota? And then later on 40:05 TR: That’s where we have friends, out of Siesta Key. 40:08 DN: Yeah. That’s nice. Uh, 40:09 TR: Yeah 40:10 DN: And then after she passed away, then course then Erwin and I would go, um, for two, three, four weeks. And later when we retired we would spend almost the whole winter there. 40:20 TR: Ah. �40:21 DN: We’d go and, um, right after Thanksgiving and come back in, uh, April 40:26 TR: Yeah. For 40:28 DN: Marco Island 40:29 TR: For, for everybody describe the cars you—you drive 40:34 DN: [laughs] 40:35 TR: Because everybody who knows you can see you coming. 40:39 DN: Yeah 40:39 TR: And the reason is the, the type of car you have 40:43DN: Yeah 40:44 TR: What year 40:45 DN: Yeah, I don’t, I, um, did I ever show you those pictures of the convertible? 40:50 TR: You did. 40:52 DN: That white one? 40:53 TR: Yeah 40:53 DN: Yeah. Then the hard top Buick, and I think that was in the sixties 40:57 TR: But what year on your Cadillac now? 40:58 DN: This Cadillac 40:59 TR: Yeah 41:01 DN: is a eighty-seven. 41:01 TR: Eighty-seven 41:02 DN: Yeah 41:02 TR: And that’s the one with a fin and really long. 41:04 DN: Yeah. �41:05 TR: Real long 41:06 DN: Yeah. 41:06 TR: You told me you had to convert your garage, an extension in order to get it in. 41:10 DN: Yeah, yeah. What they call (?) garage 41:11 TR: [laugh] the uh, 41:16 DN: Well, I had a Cadillac before that. A couple of them. One brown one. That was a big four door. And then I, that’s when we had the carpenter come in and put the 41:24 TR: Yeah 41:25 DN: Extended the garage, because it wouldn’t fit otherwise. So then this Cadillac too, it makes it perfect, you know. So 41:34 TR: Yeah. Is it beside your property where they had that passage way, so the kids could go to school? They wouldn’t have to walk around the block? 41:44 DN: Yeah. They put a walk through there. 41:46 TR: Little walk way 41:47 DN: Yeah. Just a walkway. And then, uh later on, the city give-- give us and also David and Jim so many feet on the of the lot there. And um, you can’t build on it. 42:07 TR: No 42:08 DN: But we can use it and then the city the kids could use it too. 42:11 TR: ok. 42:12 DN: And then for long time they put a those uh, for the walk way they had, uh, I can’t think of the name of it now. That they put down every year. Then, uh, 42:25 TR: Mulch, I would imagine 42:26 DN: Mulch, yeah. That’s uh, but then it got higher and higher and when the rain, when the water would get there 42:32 TR: Yeah 42:32 DN: it would sit there and collect, you know, and we said once we could cement it, but that wouldn’t be so good. And then David and Jim and I talked to some of the city. We said �“why don’t you just level it all and put in grass? Dirt and grass seed.” That’s fine. Well they agreed to that. And that’s a lot better. 42:51 TR: So there was a lot there? Actually a lot? 42:54 DN: Yeah, a lot. Yeah. 42:54 TR: Oh 42:55 DN: I forget how many feet. Between David and Jim. 42:59 TR: Ok. 42:59 DN: But uh, 43:00 TR: It wasn’t buildable. 43:02 DN: No. When we got it they said you can’t build on it. 43:03 TR: Ok. 43:04 DN: because I think there’s a water pipe that now goes underneath it. 43:06 TR: Oh. Ok. 43:07 DN: Cause we had a lot of water too, you know. Cause of the house in back of David and Jim. They raised the house they raised the house so high. And also the people in back of us. 43:16 TR: Yes 43:17 DN: So when it rained it come right down on us, and our back yard half of it was full of water. 43:22 TR: That’s happening in ours. 43:23 DN: Yeah. 43:24 TR: Where they built the miniature golf thing where Ida Red’s is and 43:26 DN: Yeah. 43:27 TR: it killed all the trees because there’s no natural drainage type of thing. 43:30 DN: Yeah, and I said “I don’t know why the city allowed that” to have them build a house so high, much higher you know �43:37 TR: Yeah 43:37 DN: Than ground level, and, uh, so finally they put in a pipe and sewer 43:42 TR: Yeah. 43:42 DN: On Francis Street. So that helped a lot 43:46 TR: uh huh. 43:47 DN: So we don’t get as much water as before. 43:51 TR: Well your neighborhood has really changed. Houses, 43:54 DN: Oh yeah. 43:54 TR: So many of them torn down 43:55 DN: Torn and rebuilt, yeah. 43:56 TR: and big ones put up, yeah. 43:58 DN: Yeah, it’s quite a change there since when we bought it, you know. 44:03 TR: Yeah. 44:03 DN: Cause at the end, when we bought our house, there was no houses down there. 44:07 TR: Yeah 44:07 DN: At the end, 44:09 TR: Well, from what I understand the very end of your road was an active working farm at one time. You know with a barn, and where, uh, they dammed and there’s that little lake at the bottom of the hill 44:25 DN: Yeah. 44:26 TR: That was a pasture, and the cows would go down there and 44:29 DN: Yeah. 44:30 TR: And, uh, graze and uh come back up to the barn. 44:35 DN: Yeah. Then later onwards they built one, two, three, three houses. �44:43 TR: Yeah. 44:43 DN: Three or four more houses down there. And then 44:47 TR: So you probably remember before the high school then, don’t you, and middle school were built? 44:51 DN: Yeah. 44:51 TR: Up on the hill. 44:52 DN: yeah 44:52 TR: Was that just the farmland or something? 44:56 DN: I think so. It’s all wooded area 44:58 TR: It was wooded 44:58 DN: And uh, and there was a reason I can’t think, they like the road wouldn’t go through either. 45:04 TR: Yeah 45:05 DN: I forgot why 45:07 TR: Well there seems to be a ditch or something 45:08 DN: There’s a- a ditch there, so, but we were glad about that, you know 45:13 TR: Yeah 45:14 DN: They never make a road out of it. 45:15 TR: Yeah you’ve got nice, private road 45:16 DN: Yeah. And uh, the two guys that were carpenters, Doug was one of the guy’s name, they built a couple of those homes 45:26 TR: Yeah 45:26 DN: On the end of our street there. 45:27 TR: Oh yes 45:29 DN: Yeah �45:29 TR: Weirenga (?) yes 45:30 DN: And uh 45:32 TR: Do you ever remember when Upper Spear connected down to, uh, Holland Street? When you actually could drive down to Holland Street, before they closed it off? (pause) Ok. 45:45 DN: No 45:45 TR: I understand at one time you could go down 45:47 DN: Oh yeah. 45:47 TR: to Holland Street straight down Spear 45:51 DN: Oh. No. 45:53 TR: Cause that’s really a steep steep hill. 45:54 DN: Yeah 45:55 TR: Cause I cut down there, once in a while, I go “Woah” [laugh] 45:58 DN: [laugh] No. I don’t remember that. 46:01 TR: Sort of dangerous. Yeah. 46:02 DN: It’s all woods and the stream down back there, you know. And um 46:07 TR: Yeah 46:08 DN: So yeah there’s quite the change on our street. And the people too [laugh] 46:14 TR: Yup, uh, every change, it’s nice to see that people are keeping the quality you know, uh, you know, it’s I- I think. There’s so many people that are renting their houses now. They’re buying in on speculation that they’ll make enough money renting it out in the summer to justify it. So there’s less permanent residents here in Saugatuck. 46:38 DN: Not a lot of them, yeah. 46:40 TR: Which is unfortunate, because you know when it’s a private ownership you tend to take care of it better than 46:45 DN: Yeah �46:45 TR: a rental site 46:46 DN: yeah. I don’t like that idea either. Rental 46:50 TR: Yeah, but you know 46:51 DN: yeah 46:52 TR: That’s I think some of the real estate people really pushed that. 46:55 DN: yeah 46:55 TR: Cause they’ll oversee the renting of it 46:58 DN: yeah and then 46:58 TR: and take a percentage 46:59 DN: And they get so much for that 47:00 TR: But like last weekend, somebody comes up. It’s a weekend. They want to party, and, you know, 47:04 DN: Yeah 47:05 TR: they have the noise and the music and all that, and it’s like—and you know another thing is that, so many of us are retired, I mean their children, if they had children they’re grown. 47:17 DN: Yeah. 47:18 TR: And they’re not here. We still have one of the best school districts, but its fed by more the township 47:23 DN: Yeah. 47:24 TR: Cause they have the younger kids 47:25 DN: Yeah 47:27 TR: and, there are some homes that have children that you see walking 47:30 DN: Yeah 47:30 TR: To school 47:31 DN: Yeah. We used to too. Like the Keys across from us �47:34 TR: Yes! 47:35 DN: Yeah and their kids they go to school 47:37 TR: Yeah 47:37 DN: And then then, uh, the Sheridans 47:40 TR: Yeah 47:41 DN: And the, kids went to school but now, and as far as I know it’s just one that, um, like (?) She rents it out sometime weekends. 47:55 TR: Ah 47:56 DN: She used to rent it out. 47:58 TR: yeah 47:58 DN: I can’t think of her name, and her husband died about a year and a half ago. 48:00 TR: Ah 48:01 DN: He had tongue cancer or something like that 48:03 TR: Ah 48:03 DN: He was only only in his fifties. 48:05 TR: Boy 48:05 DN: And um 48:06 TR: That’s unfortunate 48:07 DN: And they had three or four children. Three boys and one girl, I think 48:08 TR: The, uh, thinking back, when you moved here, did you have reasons to come to Douglas? Other than to go to Oval Beach. You had to come, unless you took the ferry or something. Do you remember what Douglas was like when you first came? 48:27 DN: Yeah. It wasn’t much to it. 48:28 TR: Yeah �48:29 DN: A couple of stores, and it seemed like it didn’t take hold. 48:32 TR: No 48:33 DN: Even though they tried it a couple of times, but not like Saugatuck, you know. 48:36 TR: No. 48:37 DN: And it’s just, oh, there was a couple of stores and this and that, but not much going on, for quite a while. You know. 48:43 TR: Well I sort of trace it back to when Joyce Petter had, the Joyce Petter gallery, lunches and then she had somebody take care of it for a while and then she bought it back, or control of it. And it was the Joyce Petter Gallery, and then she was having problems with, uh, parking and all that. And she bought the, uh, Gray Gables. And she was the first one to, I think, really sink money into Douglas and do that 49:11 DN: Oh 49:12 TR: And then the Marina guys came in, and then 49:14 DN: Little by little, started. Yeah. 49:16 TR: Now it’s been discovered. 49:18 DN: Yeah, oh yeah. 49:19 TR: I mean, jeez 49:20 DN: And some of the guys that were gay they had a store there. 49:22 TR: Yeah. 49:23 DN: Downtown, you know. 49:26 TR: Yeah 49:26 DN: and restaurants and, uh, 49:26 TR: And you know, some of the people I knew that were in Saugatuck sold their houses for some profits and bought lesser things and redid them in Douglas 49:35 DN: Yeah 49:35 TR: So they made- made money and were able to buy things so �49:39 DN: Yeah 49:30 TR: It seems like it changed considerably 49:42 DN: It did it really changed later. There used, they had one good restaurant there on the corner in Douglas and, I can’t think 49:51 TR: I I think there was a buffet, um, like a , yeah. Right right on Center Street. 49:57 DN: yeah 49:58 TR: Of course, what year did Terra stop? Well no, there was a restaurant cause the Petersons bought it. And they had a restaurant. They sold it. I think they still call it the Terra. I’m not sure. Before they built the condos? Yeah 50:11 DN: Um 50:13 TR: It was in the footprint, I think, of the old Terra. Yeah. 50:18 DN: Could be. Yeah, the Coneys used to own it from when we would come there 50:23 TR: Uh huh 50:24 DN: And then they sold it to a younger couple 50:25 TR: Yeah 50:26 DN: And I can’t think of their name. It was in the paper. 50:30 TR: Because 50:31 DN: And then they had a fire 50:32 TR: Ah 50:32 DN: And after that, I can’t remember 50:35 TR: Yeah 50:35 DN: If, whoever bought it or 50:36 TR: Well Eric Peterson 50:38 DN: Peterson maybe �50:38 TR: Invited me to his wedding, and the reception was at, whatever that place was named. You know. Where the condos are built now 50:45 DN: Oh, ok. 50:48 TR: So 50:49 DN: Terra. Yeah. They used to have good foods there when the Coney’s owned it. 50:53 TR: Ah. 50:55 DN: And, uh, when you come, oh, mother and I would come Friday night and we’d always stop there to eat first. 51:02 TR: Yeah. 51:04 DN: And if you weren’t dressed you got in that first room 51:04 TR: Oh 51:04 DN: And if you were dress you got in the front room 51:06 TR: Ah 51:07 DN: that face the channel, you know? 51:09 TR: Yeah. 51:08 DN: And then, but then, we didn’t care cause we, yeah, just come from Kalamazoo 51:13 TR: Sure 51:14 DN: You know, for the weekend. 51:14 TR: Where did you buy your groceries? 51:18 DN: At, uh, Terra, or at uh 51:22 TR: Super—I’m saying what is, what was it called because 51:26 DN: Tafts! 51:27 TR: Tafts 51:27 DN: years ago �51:29 TR: Right then the Super-- and now it’s some other name 51:31 DN: yeah. Now it’s 51:34 TR: Lake something 51:34 DN: Lake Vista, or 51:36TR: Lake Vista 51:36 DN: yeah 51:37 TR: You didn’t bring food, uh, the groceries from Kalamazoo or? 51:40 DN: Oh, oh, we’d bring some. Yeah. 51:41 TR: Some? 51:44 DN: Yeah. Especially if mother made something, you know that lasts a couple days 51:46 TR: Yeah 51:46 DN: Then we’d just take it along. And otherwise if we needed something we’d just go to Taft’s 51:51 TR: Yeah. 51:52 DN: And get it 51:54 TR: Were, were you ever a fisherman? 51:55 DN: No 51:56 TR: No. yeah. 51:56 DN: Go once a while, but that’s it. 51:59 TR: Yeah. Or golfer? 52:00 DN: Huh? 52:01 TR: Golfing? Did you 52:02 DN: No 52:02 TR: No? �52:03 DN: No no 52:04 TR: None of that 52:04 DN: No 52:05 TR: But you did go to bars [laugh] 52:07 DN: Yeah, went to the bars a couple of times 52:08 TR: and danced 52:09 DN: Yeah 52:09 TR: Well that’s recreation 52:11 DN: Yeah. Now, um, 52:14 TR: Do you remember in Saugatuck, they had shuffle board, I guess, by the City Hall? Yeah. Ok 52:20 DN: They could. I don’t remember that either. 52:21 TR: Yeah. 52:22 DN: But they could have 52:23 TR: Yeah. They did. 52:24 DN: Oh, did they? 52:25 TR: Yeah 52:26 DN: Yeah, uh 52:27 TR: Um, and then right back near my house on Butler street they had, uh, they had little miniature golf. They raised it up. For a very short time, but it wasn’t very successful 52:35 DN: Oh. Yeah. 52:37 TR: On Water Street, yeah. 52:38 DN: Oh 52:38 TR: Where, uh, Ida Red’s is. Yeah. �52:41 DN: Ok. Oh yeah. I remember that. I remember that. 52:44 TR: Uh 52:45 DN: Yeah. Golfing 52:46 TR: And boy in my yard, I’d find golf balls all the time. [laugh] 52:50 DN: yeah [laugh] 52:51 TR: They’d over shoot it type of thing 52:53 DN: It wasn’t golf course. It was just (?) golf and 52:55 TR: Miniature golf, yeah. 52:56 DN: Miniature. Yeah. I remember that there. Yeah. 53:00 TR: You-53:00 DN: um 53:01 TR: You never went to any of the musical festivals? That jazz festival that, supposedly, was in Saugatuck? 53:06 DN: Not the jazz, no 53:07 TR: Ok 53:08 DN: I’m not 53:09 TR: yeah. That supposedly was a pretty rowdy thing. You don’t remember the motorcycle gangs from the sixties? 53:16 DN: Oh yeah. Billy’s Boat House. That’s where we used to go too. 53:19 TR: Ah 53:20 DN: They had good wet burritos there. 53:21 TR: Really? 53:23 DN: Yeah yeah 53:23 TR: Ok �53:23 DN: uh, Billy’s Boat House steak was so good there. 53:26 TR: Ah. 53:27 DN: And then they had a motorcycle crowd there. 53:28 TR: Yeah 53:30 DN: And then for a while, we didn’t go because, we were kind of-53:32 TR: Do you remember the rail restaurant? That was 53:34 DN: -- Oh, the Old Rail 53:35 TR: yeah 53:36 DN: sure 53:38 TR: That burned down. I guess they had a grand piano in there? 53:39 DN: Yeah 53:40 TR: And the guy would do entertainment? 53:42 DN: Yeah, I forget his name too, but first two, two ladies owned it. Years ago. 53:45 TR: Ah 53:46 DN: And they had good food 53:47 TR: Ah. 53:48 DN: And then they sold it and then it was, I can’t think of his name. 53:52 TR: Ah 53:53 DN: Then he bought it. And we’d go to the Barn Theater sometime, and then afterwards go there for dessert. 53:59 TR: Ah 54:00 DN: And coffee. And he’d be there and play the piano. 54:02 TR: Uh huh �54:02 DN: That was kind of nice. So. 54:04 TR: Were- were there any negatives about this area that you could think of? Things that disturb you or that you-54:11 DN: Oh, no. It was all pretty good. 54:11 TR: --didn’t like so much? 54:12 DN: No 54:14 TR: Well, I’m glad to hear that. 54:16 DN: Just years ago it was wild on the weekends downtown. Cars would go around the block four or five times you know 54:21 TR: Ah 54:23 DN: And the streets were full and the sidewalks you know 54:25 TR: People showing their cars, showing off their cars. 54:27 DN: Cars just riding around, yeah. 54:29 TR: Ah ha 54:30 DN: and of course, lot of students used to come to and just 54:33 TR: That’s what I understand 54:34 DN: And and there were some families too that just take down signs 54:37 TR: Yeah. 54:37 DN: And break some windows. And for a while it was kind of rough 54:53 TR: And that was the, yeah, college crew and course Travis Randolf was sort of part of that because they had a cottage and he was going to University of Michigan then and his fraternity brothers would come 54:53 DN: come yeah 54:54 TR: and use the house 54:54 DN: yeah, yeah �54:56 TR: Sylvia Randolf his mother accused him of breaking all her, uh (pause) Oak Leaf dishes 55:02 DN: Oh 55:03 TR: Antique oak 55:04 DN: oh yeah 55:06 TR: Travis denies it, but 55:06 DN: Yeah. What was her name again? 55:07 TR: Sylvia Randalf 55:08 DN: Oh yeah. She lives on down there in the yellow house 55:10 TR: Yeah. Yeah. 55:12 DN: Now she was a nice person 55:13 TR: Very much so 55:14 DN: yeah. 55:15 TR: and she lived to a hundred and three. 55:17 DN: yeah. She got quite old 55:17 TR: Yeah 55:18 DN: She liked to entertain. 55:20 TR: Very definitely, and luckily we were part, part of it, but 55:21 DN: yeah. 55:25 TR: really some gracious, uh, meals. The lower part of that house was brought from Singapore. When the river was frozen 55:32 DN: Oh 55:35 TR: way back in eighteen whenever. 55:37 DN: Oh? �55:38 TR: Type of thing 55:38 DN: Oh yeah. 55:38 TR: so it’s, it’s uh, very much a historic house. Uh, type of thing. But Joyce Petter talks about when she would confront the motorcyclists that would park in front of her gallery 55:49 DN: Oh yeah. 55:50 TR: And I’m going to interview her, later on in the week and have her describe, one motorcyclist got so disturbed he drove his motorcycle right into her gallery. 56:01DN: Oh. 56:01 TR: Oh yeah! [laugh] 56:02 DN: Oh I don’t remember that. Oh really? 56:04 TR: Yeah, it probably made the news, but, uh, 56:06 DN: Oh 56:07 TR: Yeah she, she was a chara- is a character. 56:09 DN: yeah 56:10 TR: There’s no doubt about it. 56:11 DN: Yeah 56:12 TR: But 56:12 DN: Yeah, but, uh, now see all that happened before we bought here 56:13 TR: Yeah 56:16 DN: We would just come weekend 56:16 TR: Yes 56:17 DN: Or rent 56:18 TR: Yes 56:18 DN: We would rent downtown �56:20 TR: Yeah. And and, local policeman, from stories I heard is that they, uh, if it got to rowdy they would close, close the city. They would 56:28 DN: Yeah 56:29 TR: So you could not enter the city. 56:30 DN: Yeah. We had that one year too. We, I don’t, we’d come from Holland or so, and on that end there was police there, and we had to show ID and everything 56:40 TR: [laughs] 56:42 DN: That we had a place here 56:42 TR: Ok. Well, strangely enough, when I moved here in seventy-six, I moved here Venetian weekend day 56:47 DN: Oh 56:TR: Moving truck was coming and they stopped and said, “The town’s full. You can’t come in.” And I said to myself, “Oh my gosh. What did I do?” 56:56 DN: Yeah 56:56 TR: [laughs] 56:56 DN: [laugh] 56:57 TR: But I did, you know 56:58 DN: Yeah, yeah. 57:00 TR: Manistee friends love coming to Saugatuck 57:03 DN: Yeah, yeah. 57:03 TR: From 57:04 DN: Then sometime too we’d go to the beach too when we wanted to go, well we couldn’t get in till some cars come out and we go in. 57:09 TR: That happened this summer 57:11 DN: Oh yeah 57:11 TR: My family came �57:12 DN: yeah 57:12 TR: It was backed up all the way on to Park Street 57:16 DN: yeah 57:17 TR: And, uh, they’ve increased the parking space, but, uh, 57:19 DN: Yeah 57:20 TR: Popular. 57:21 DN: Yeah 57:22 TR: There’s no doubt about it. So. Very, uh, but I’ve never so many colorful umbrellas in-57:27 DN: Oh yeah [laugh] 57:29 TR: Just really beautiful. 57:30 DN: Yeah. Yeah. It’s a nice beach, Saugatuck 57:32 TR: There’s no doubt about it. 57:33 DN: Very nice 57:34 TR: Yeah. We are blessed 57:34 DN: Yeah, it’s a nice area. Yeah 57:37 TR: Water sometime this summer was, I think around seventy-two 57:40 DN: Yeah. 57:40 TR: Then the winds would change the currents. 57:41 DN: Yeah. 57:43 TR: And then it would be sixty something. And you go woah, woah. [laugh] 57:46 DN: Change overnight. 57:47 TR: That’s a little cold, yeah �57:48 DN: Yeah. But it was nice. We used to go to the beach a lot, you know? 57:51TR: Yeah. Well 57:52 DN: And sometime we just go sometime for see the sunset. And have 57:57 TR: Oh 57:57 DN: Have our dinner someplace and have dessert sitting on the 58:01 TR: Absolutely 58:02 DN: On the beach there and have our dessert. 58:03 TR: Well, I think it—it’s wonderful that gay people have felt comfortable enough to come here to visit and then to buy homes. 58:12 DN: And yeah 58:13 TR: And and, you know, now some of them have families, they can marry 58:16 DN: yeah 58:16 TR: They can have children now 58:17 DN: yeah 58:19 TR: Adopt them, and, uh, there’s a lot more lesbians moving into the area that find it desirable. 58:26 DN: Yeah 58:27 TR: So, you know, the, the mixture of people have—has continued and hopefully will continue 58:35 DN: yeah 58:36 TR: And the tolerance 58:37 DN: yeah 58:37 TR: And all that 58:37 DN: And the people bored up with it to, you know 58:39 TR: Yeah, and uh �58:50 DN: and, uh like uh, oh I can’t think of his name, that owned East of the Sun. The doctor? 58:45 TR: Yeah 58:46 DN: But a long time ago too, he was talking to some other one 58:50 TR: yeah 58:50 DN: But he said it too, sometime if it wouldn’t be for the gay people he wouldn’t make that much money cause they spent the money 58:54 TR: Yeah 58:55 DN: Where couples didn’t spend that much. 58:56 TR: Yeah 58:56 DN: You know, if they had children 58:58 TR: That is true 58:59 DN: And so 59:00 TR: Had more disposable income 59:02 DN: Yeah 59:02 TR: Very much so, and and as Joyce Petter said they um, Grand Rapids, she lived there. She started the gallery. People just didn’t buy paintings. It was the people of Chicago, Detroit 59:14 DN: Oh. 59:14 TR: and Indianapolis that came up, and they had the disposable income. 59:18 DN: yeah. 59:18 TR: And she, she started a lot of the galleries. They had gift stores 59:23 DN: Yeah 59:24 TR: But not--not fine art 59:24 DN: Yeah �59:25 TR: You know? Craft 59:28 DN: Yeah 59:28 TR: And that stuff, so. 59:29 DN: Now does Joyce Petter still own that gallery? 59:30 TR: Yes 59:32 DN: Oh, ok. 59:33 TR: Yeah. 59:34 DN: I know that 59:34 TR: Yeah, but she rents it out. The one in Saugatuck, uh, I think, er I forget what it’s called 59:40 DN: Frederick’s used to be in there too 59:42 TR: Yeah. 59:43 DN: Yeah 59:45 TR: Yes, but of course she has the one in Douglas, the, uh, Petter gallery there. 59:50 DN: Yeah, the big one 59:51 TR: Which they 59:51DN: On the high way 59:52 TR: Converted part of it to a wine shop. 59:54 DN: Oh 59:55 TR: Type of thing. Yeah, but uh, the other part is still a gallery. 59:59 DN: Yeah 1:00:00 TR: So it’s refreshing to I, I’m putting words in your mouth, that being gay has been a very good thing for you that, to have a home here 1:00:11 DN: yeah. �1:00:13 TR: Yeah, uh, and, uh, Erwin would have agreed with you. 1:00:18 DN: Yeah. Oh yeah. He liked it here too, and 1:00:20 TR: Yeah 1:00:21 DN: And, uh, we had a lot of good times here. 1:00:23 TR: Yeah. 1:00:24 DN: And, uh, a lot of our friends would come up from Chicago too, for the weekend, so 1:00:27 TR: Oh, absolutely, 1:00:29 DN: Yeah 1:00:30 TR: Well, can you think of anything else you might, closing remarks, or 1:00:33 DN: No 1:00:35 TR: Anything like that? 1:00:37 DN: I think we covered most of it, I think 1:00:37 TR: I think we did 1:00:39 DN: so yeah 1:00:39 TR: We had, we got, uh 1:00:41DN: yeah 1:00:42 TR: The, uh, the Blue Tempo again, uh, 1:00:45 DN: yeah 1:00:46 TR: Uh, did they have any exotic drinks there? From that period? Cause, you know, in my college days I remember the Blue Motorcycle and Singapore Sling and 1:00:55 DN: Oh 1:00:57 TR: Those horrible mixed drinks 1:00:57 DN: Mixed drinks yeah. They might have, 1:00:59 TR: Yeah �1:01:00 DN: But I don’t remember any of them, yeah. I, well, once in a while I’d get a beer, but otherwise 1:01:04 TR: Yeah. 1:01:05 DN: I’d try to just to get, uh, just a vodka and tonic 1:01:06 TR: That sounds good enough 1:01:08 DN: Yeah. Beer was all right, but it filled me up, so 1:01:10TR: Ah 1:01:11DN: I don’t know why, one beer, yeah, it bloated me, so 1:01:13 TR: Well, they obviously had a restroom there I would imagine so if you got 1:01:16 DN: Yeah 1:01:17 TR: Too filled [laugh] 1:01:17 DN: So if I got a drink I could nurse that all evening. One drink or drinks, you know 1:01:21TR: Ah. Yeah. 1:01:22DN: So that was ok 1:01:23 TR: They probably make more money on a mixed drink, anyway 1:01:25DN: Yeah 1:01:26TR: Well thank you very much for, uh, giving your time and recording this, uh, you know, uh, you’ve certainly filled me in more about the area so Interview ends 1:01:37 � Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. 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However the Air Force was full so he was placed in the infantry. -Not too difficult to get used to because of his physically active country lifestyle. -Basic training in Little Rock Arkansas. -Took 8 weeks. -Next, sent to Colorado Springs and placed in the 89th Infantry Division. -Stay in Colorado Springs lasted for ten months. -Continued with more training for about 8 months. -Took part in mock combat maneuvers for about 3 months. -Next, travelled to California mountains for a 3 month long mock combat maneuver. -Ate rations during this training. -Once this training was completed the Privates and PFCs were shipped out for D-Day. -Travelled to North Carolina to train a new Division. -He was shipped overseas in January, 1945. -Disembarked in France at the end of January. (00:03:25) Europe and Ohrdruf Concentration Camp -Gradually moved toward Luxembourg, and onward into Germany, then finally near the Czechoslovakian border when the War ended. -Returned to France after the War ended to Camp Lucky Strike. -After 2 months working at Camp Lucky Strike went to Austria until leaving for the US. -Returning to the period before the War ended: prepared to have crossed the Rhine River however another unit did so first. (00:06:15) -After crossing the Rhine, liberated Ohrdruf concentration camp. -The first concentration camp the US liberated. -Bodies everywhere. -Guards would shoot prisoners before the liberation was completed. -Large burials, burned bodies. -Made good friends in the military that endured throughout his lifetime. -On weekends went into town for things like USO dances. -Returning from the War was comforting, knowing he wouldn’t have to leave again. -Not difficult to transition into civilian life. �-He keeps in touch with the 89th Division Society. -Every two years there is a social gathering. -War time experience didn’t affect his life too significantly. -Learned to be self-supporting, truthful, kind. -89th Division fought along with Patton’s 11th Armored Division, 4th Antitank Battalion. (00:12:16) -Consulting with his military documents yields the following info regarding his military roles: -A Platoon Guard -Military service spanned from France, Luxembourg, Germany, and Austria. -Supervised the handling and distribution of rations, ammunition, supplies, and equipment. -Assisted Platoon Sargent in combat movement. [The interviewer is given several documents and papers listing more information about his service.] � Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Veterans History Project Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Grand Valley State University. 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Once the War had ended Joseph was stationed at Camp Lucky Strike, and then later Austria until leaving Europe for home. Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Dubois, Joseph Contributor An entity responsible for making contributions to the resource Schmehil, Jacqueline (Interviewer) Subject The topic of the resource Oral history Veterans History Project (U.S.) United States--History, Military Veterans Video recordings World War, 1939-1945--Personal narratives, American United States. 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Title A name given to the resource Naval Recognition Training Slides Subject The topic of the resource Slides Military education Airplanes, Military--Recognition Warships--Recognition World War, 1939-1945 Description An account of the resource Slides developed during World War II as a training tool, for top-side battle-station personnel on board ship and for all aircraft personnel, by the US Navy. In 1942 a Recognition School was established by the Navy at Ohio State University where the method of identification was developed. In 1943 the school was taken over by the US Navy. The importance of training in visual recognition of ships and aircraft became even more evident during World War II. Mistakes resulting in costly errors and loss of life led to an increased emphasis on recognition as a vital skill. Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource United States. Navy Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived <a href="https://gvsu.lyrasistechnology.org/repositories/2/resources/477">Naval recognition slides (RHC-50)</a> Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available Grand Valley State University. University Libraries. Special Collections & University Archives. Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 2017-04-04 Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource <a href="http://rightsstatements.org/page/NoC-US/1.0/?language=en">No Copyright - United States</a> Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource image/jpg Language A language of the resource eng Type The nature or genre of the resource image Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context RHC-50 Coverage The spatial or temporal topic of the resource, the spatial applicability of the resource, or the jurisdiction under which the resource is relevant 1943-1953 Still Image A static visual representation. Examples include paintings, drawings, graphic designs, plans and maps. Recommended best practice is to assign the type Text to images of textual materials. Source <a href="http://gvsu.lyrasistechnology.org/repositories/2/resources/477">Naval recognition slides, RHC-50</a> Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context RHC-50_1753 Title A name given to the resource Duca D'Aosta class light carrier Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource United States. Navy Description An account of the resource Duca D'Aosta class Russian CL (light cruiser), April 1, 1953. Subject The topic of the resource United States. Navy Military education World War, 1939-1945 Slides Warships--Recognition Russia Language A language of the resource eng Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource <a href="http://rightsstatements.org/page/NoC-US/1.0/?language=en">No Copyright - United States</a> Type The nature or genre of the resource Image Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource image/jpeg Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Naval recognition slides (RHC-50) Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 1953-04-01 Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available Grand Valley State University. University Libraries. Lemmen Library and Archives